Two sides to Slater’s bankruptcy

Whale Oil has posted today that Cameron Slater is filing for bankruptcy due to legal debts and lack of income. This hasn’t been confirmed – it isn’t on the Insolvency Register yet – but it comes as no surprise given the legal setbacks Slater has had in multiple defamation cases over the last few months.

Whale Oil are claiming that Slater is a victim of vexatious litigation, but court documents and one of those who sued him for defamation, Matthew Blomfield, say otherwise.

Slater suffered a stroke in late October, which is tough on him and his family, but it is not certain whether Whale Oil’s claims of the amount of incapacitation are accurate, or if they are playing to courts trying to find a way out of the legal holes Slater has dug himself into.

Whale Oil: An update on Cam’s health

Ongoing medical tests following Cam’s stroke have shown that he remains severely incapacitated and consequently is unable to work. His rehabilitation continues to make slow progress; but it is all-consuming and extremely tiring.

The medical advice is that, for Cam to recover, he needs to completely remove all forms of stress from his life, to lower his blood pressure and to concentrate on rehabilitation. He has faced a difficult choice about the future. The prospect of on-going ill health and potential further strokes means the advice of his medical team, lawyer, accountant, family members and those who, due to his incapacity, would have been appointed his guardians ad litem, is for him to completely withdraw from any activity other than rehabilitation.

Given his situation some people are justifiably sceptical about claims he must be removed from all stress. For a start it’s impossible. Everyone has stresses in their lives, especially when they suffer from medical events like strokes.

Many people have had to deal with stress inflicted by the actions of Slater and associates of his. They didn’t get a stress free card to play when it suited them.

This has led Cam to make the very difficult decision to declare bankruptcy, since he is unable to generate enough passive revenue to fund the three extremely expensive and in his opinion, vexatious, defamation actions against him.

So he is not that incapacitated to prevent him making a decision like that.

Perhaps he is in a dire financial situation – most probably he is as a result of legal costs he has chosen to rack up. He has always had choices to try come to arrangements over the defamation cases, but he has kept claiming to have done nothing wrong, despite multiple courts saying otherwise.

We will keep you updated on Cam’s progress via the Whaleoil website but, for now, he needs a long break to facilitate his return to good health.

There is a lot Whale Oil is not telling it’s readers about the legal situations.

Ironically given this post also at Whale Oil today – Crybabies of the week – the post plays sympathy and victim cards strongly, when the predicament he is in is due to some real victims of his past actions decided to hold him to account in court.

NZ Herald: Cameron Slater’s stroke – what defamation victim Matt Blomfield says the evidence shows about the blogger’s health

The businessman who successfully battled Whale Oil’s Cameron Slater over defamation claims the blogger’s claim ill-health drove him to bankruptcy is contrary to evidence and should be treated with suspicion.

Matt Blomfield told the Herald he was basing his view on evidence which had emerged during the final stages of the seven-year defamation battle.

He said he was making the details public over concern Slater was attempting to gain sympathy from the public and seek donations from readers, as he has done over the course of the prolonged court case.

Blomfield successfully sued Slater and the company which owns his blog, Social Media Consultants, over a series of blog posts in 2012 accusing him of illegal and immoral behaviour.

The High Court at Auckland ruled in Blomfield’s favour late last year, saying Slater had failed to mount a credible defence.

Blomfield claimed the court action against Slater had shown there was no truth behind the posts in which he featured.

He said he believed the stories about Slater’s ill-health were based on “true background events” but the substance was “fiction”.

Blomfield said the High Court ruling was followed by Slater filing with the Court of Appeal then seeking to delay the subsequent hearing on the basis of ill-health.

He said Slater was then obliged by the court to provide evidence supporting his claims around his health and “that evidence simply didn’t support his application”.

“He has told the public he had two strokes, but the evidence showed he had only had one. He keeps repeating the fact that the stroke was caused by stress and that he must now avoid stress.

“However, the medical evidence is that his particular stroke has nothing to do with stress and he is in no more danger of another stroke due to stress than any other person.

“He claimed to have cognitive and language impairment because of his stroke, but the evidence showed he had none.

“He claimed to be too incapacitated to communicate with his lawyers, but he was simultaneously engaging in political discussions in the comments section of the Whale Oil website.”

Blomfield said the Court of Appeal gave Slater until February 22 to provide evidence supporting his claims of ill-health.

“He filed no response at all. Instead, he applied for bankruptcy. He is now saying his proceedings need to be halted for that reason.

“He is doing everything he can to avoid the consequences of his own nefarious actions.”

Blomfield said “this will not work” and a full Court of Appeal hearing next month would rule based on the evidence.

So Slater hasn’t extracted himself from the legal hole he’s in yet.

If he does actually file for bankruptcy liability for costs – which must be tends of thousands of dollars at least – will still rest with Social Media Consultants Limited, Slater was removed as a director and shareholder at the start of this month. This leaves his wife Juana Atkins as sole shareholder and director, so that’s not exactly a way of resolving all the legal costs, leaving her carrying the can.

And Blomfield isn’t the only legal problem – today’s High Court Daily List included:

It’s a mess for Slater, and almost entirely of his own making.

If he really wanted to reduce his stress he could front up and come clean about his role as a paid for hit blogger, and start apologising to the many people he has willingly piled heaps of shit on, but he may choose to remain a gutless bully right to the bitter end of his blogging career.

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  1. Tipene

     /  26th February 2019

    Told ya – the “health scare” was just a delaying tactic, while [use proper names] got his bankruptcy papers in order.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12207479

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  2. Tipene

     /  26th February 2019

    No surprise at all that Slater has left his wife so exposed to this – it’s “tick-tock” time for Whaleoil.

    The New Conservative party will be kicking itself forming a media and support alliance with Slater & Williams.

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    • New Conservatives only have themselves to blame for associating themselves with Whale Oil. It should have been obvious it was a toxic blog politically, at least it would have been if they bothered to do some basic research.

      I think it’s fair to ask if new Conservatives paid for coverage. If so it was money poorly spent.

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      • Tipene

         /  26th February 2019

        Hmmm…….I hadn’t considered the “pay for play” option – surely not, given Slater was a well known “cash for content” author?

        Mind you, it’s not like the NCP have been demonstrating any particular political smarts of late.

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        • Duker

           /  26th February 2019

          Yes, Slater had his medical event once the Judge said appear in person for the discovery as you have been dicking the apellants around..
          Could it be that Slater is a classic Snowflake when faced with adversity

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          • He had a disastrous defamation trial which found he had no defence, plus two other seriously bad judgments about the same time (one before, one after the stroke). Anyone would be majorly stressed by all that, even when brought upon themselves – if you can’t manage a defence after six and a half years then there has to be something badly wrong with your case.

            He is what he would probably refer to as a cry baby when he plays the ‘poor me victim’ card.

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  3. Tipene

     /  26th February 2019

    And I see the remaining Whaleoil writers are comparing the demise of Slater to the death of Andrew Brietbart, founder of Brietbart news.

    Ummm……is “not in same league, whatsoever” an appropriate response to these med-sharing niche cultists?

    They will be mixing jugs of Kool-Aid next, and scouting around for a syringe to “do the young ones first”.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  26th February 2019

      Why does the Kool-Aid thing keep coming up ? It’s not even sold here ! It was drunk by the people at Jonestown, laced with poison.

      It’s a drink; people don’t inject it !

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      • Tipene

         /  26th February 2019

        Syringes were used to inject the liquid into the mouths of babies and children – the mothers were instructed by Jim Jones to “do the young ones first”.

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      • Duker

         /  26th February 2019

        Weren’t the kids given the Kool aid by squirting it down their throats?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  26th February 2019

          I was imagining it being injected, which I knew it hadn’t been.

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        • Tipene

           /  26th February 2019

          Yes, using syringes, not to be confused with needles.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  26th February 2019

            Hypodermic needles are attached to syringes.

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            • Gezza

               /  26th February 2019

              Yes but syringes and needles come in many sizes, often separately, and you can use the syringes without fitting the needles.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  27th February 2019

              I know; I have done this to get medicine down animals.

              My mother was told that you could inject something or other into lemon trees and asked a chemist for a syringe and needle..

  4. Tipene

     /  26th February 2019

    Jordan Williams = Insolvent & irrelevant.

    Cameron Slater = Bankrupt (for the second time) & now permanently incapacitated (once you’ve had a stroke, getting back to 100% functionality is not medically possible).

    John Stringer = Watch this space (significant arse-kicking pending, I suspect).

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  26th February 2019

      If he’s faking or exaggerating it, that’s very bad kharma.

      He has cognitive disabilities at some times and not others.

      I don’t know much about bankruptcy, but it’s not a simple solution that means you walk away from debts and responsibilities as far as I know.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  26th February 2019

        No, it certainly isn’t. Anyone who thinks so will be in for a surprise.

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  5. Duker

     /  26th February 2019

    Isn’t Slater just first defendant, his company and other defendants still remain on the defamation action…isn’t the rule if he can’t pay then the others are left with the bill?

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    • Co-defendant is Social Media Consultants Limited. He ceased to be a shareholder and director on 1 February 2019, leaving his wife solo carrying that can. But the Official Assignee can check backwards to see what has been shifted around.

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      • Duker

         /  26th February 2019

        Yes . I think the official assignee will take on the bank accounts…will Slater be getting advice on dodging the bankruptcy process by that bankrupt Christchurch developer who Hide hooked up with…. Yes they had posts running their angle , some authored by Hide, and maybe Hide is one of the nom de plumes currently writing content ?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  26th February 2019

          If you mean Rodney Hide, he has never been involved in anything criminal. He supported the man when he was led to believe that he had been treated shabbily by, I think, IRD.

          Please do not imply (if you’re not saying outright) that Rodney would advise someone on how to dodge the law. He never has and never would. This is slander. I know Rodney and my husband knew him for many years, and I know that what you are saying is a gross distortion.

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          • Rodney Hide

             /  28th February 2019

            Think you Kitty. Hi Duker, have you got a name?

            Rodney

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            • Blazer

               /  28th February 2019

              you’ve had more close shaves than Norman Gunston ….regarding some of the company you keep..eh Rodney.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  28th February 2019

              I hate to see people being slandered !!!

        • Blazer

           /  28th February 2019

          Henderson ..the perenially wronged …property developer..remember the sweetheart deal the illustrious Sir Bob (I’ve been on T.V)Parker arranged for the man.

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  6. Griff.

     /  26th February 2019

    Schadenfreude.

    My brothers father in law had a stroke at 50.
    Left him with a vocabulary of only two words “fuken hell” and the need for assistance to do even the simple tasks of hygiene we all take for granted. I used to take my boxer around to keep him company. It gave him moments of rare pleasure enjoying the empathy shown by a dog who could share in his pain.
    He lingered for another four years before he gave up and refused all food eventually staving himself to death .
    I would never wish that on anyone.

    Whale bee fhooked
    I have less than zero sympathy for the morally bankrupt bludger sickness beneficiary and would be happy if he has a series of stokes from the stress of all the karma that is biting his fat hypocritical arse.

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    • Corky

       /  26th February 2019

      Make your mind up. Don’t forget ‘science boy,” you have to believe in the law of cause and effect because that’s what science teaches…may faiths, too.

      So, do you think the law of cause and effect doesn’t apply to you? But does apply to the Whaler?

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    • Tipene

       /  26th February 2019

      Yes, I can’t summon any sympathy either, and why would I want to rail against the law of sowing and reaping to do so?

      Not so mouthy now, aye Whaleoil cunt?

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      • Corky

         /  26th February 2019

        You are creating a new cause and effect with your emotion.

        If Mother was here she would explain why Jesus said ”turn the other cheek and forgive.”

        Jesus wasn’t asking you to be a pussy and not fight back…but by following his advice you allow cause and effect to free flow and give justice.

        However, your nasty response written with emotion, means the Whaler is taking you down with him.

        Science 101 with a little faith chucked in for free, Tipps.

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        • MaureenW

           /  26th February 2019

          Karma delivers itself

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        • Tipene

           /  26th February 2019

          I’m cheering cause and effect, Corky – just adding a little legitimate wrath to the equation.

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        • Mother

           /  26th February 2019

          Tricky Corky.
          I would rather you didn’t try to say what I would say.

          It seems to me these blokes are expressing their justified anger. If they are not followers of Jesus Christ then why are you preaching to them?

          This is what the Bible teaches – -don’t judge them for their worldly ways. Leave them alone. It’s their choice to be however much in the world as they please.

          – if you are a believer and follower, you have a strange way of expressing it – you just judged others harshly (saying that they will get taken down).

          I don’t know whether or not you are walking with the Good Shepherd Corky. You haven’t said outright, plus you mentioned the occult. Other things you say sound like mysticism to me.

          I don’t believe in karma. That’s paganism. I believe and know and experience that Jesus is my Saviour. I have learnt the hard way not to mix weird religious practices in with Christianity. (I have had many variety of friends).

          Corky, I would not say to forgive willy nilly. I don’t. Forgiving is God’s prerogative and He guides His own according to His will.

          Wouldn’t it be lovely if Mr Slater repented of hurting others and took measures to show his regret? I have wondered before if he got mixed up with the SDA.

          The issue for me (a political issue, on a political blog!) is that Kiwis are seriously thrashing around. The old way of ‘doing Christianity’ will not work any longer. People need the Truth. Some vague renditions of Jesus’ teaching applied out of context is irritating.

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          • Corky

             /  27th February 2019

            ”I don’t believe in karma. That’s paganism.”

            No, it’s science. And there are passages in the bible that give hints about Karma. However, the problem for Christianity is that to believe in karma you must believe in reincarnation.

            ”Corky, I would not say to forgive willy nilly. I don’t. Forgiving is God’s prerogative and He guides His own according to His will.”

            Then you aren’t a Christian. The question is: What are you?

            Well, the internet is full of people who follow your religion…I think it’s called Trollism.

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            • Mother

               /  27th February 2019

              Corky, are you a Catholic priest? If so, I never meant to upset you. Honest.

              People who forgive willy nilly are silly. Your angst at me does show strangeness. And this isn’t even our story! It’s about victims of another person’s religious type zeal and it’s an example of politics and ‘Christianity’ falling over each other, causing injury. It could serve as a valuable lesson.

              My heart goes out to those who have been hurt by this saga. Corky, I wish you hadn’t caused this distraction and misrepresenting me in the process. This meddling is unfair in the midst of rightly angry and disappointed voices.

              If you knew the Bible then you would know it without the need for add ons like mysticism, man made religious rites and down right false teaching. You would also know when to avoid senseless arguments.

              Reincarnation is a nasty trap. I have a Saviour. Do you want me to help you with this concept so that you may know the Saviour too?

        • Gezza

           /  27th February 2019

          If Mother was here she would explain why Jesus said ”turn the other cheek and forgive.” Jesus wasn’t asking you to be a pussy and not fight back…but by following his advice you allow cause and effect to free flow and give justice.

          The phrase originates from the Sermon on the Mount in the New Testament. In the Gospel of Matthew, an alternative for “an eye for an eye” is given by Jesus:

          You have heard that it was said, “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.

          — Jesus Christ, English Standard Version (Matthew 5:38-42)
          In the Sermon on the Plain[1] in the Gospel of Luke, as part of his command to “love your enemies”, Jesus says:

          But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

          — Jesus Christ, English Standard Version (Luke 6:27-31)
          … … … … …
          Like much in the Sermon on The Mount it’s so daft believers are forced to invent contexts & meanings that make it somehow seem sensible.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek

          The main problem is that Jesus came at the wrong time, talked to the wrong media, had nobody video these like Ted Talks and overall had a piss poor communication strategy, obviously having absolutely no idea what cockups and confusion his followers through the ages were going to cause.

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          • Mother

             /  27th February 2019

            Jesus knew exactly the mistakes we would make Gezza. Don’t worry. Church always prevails.

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            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              I’m not talking about the mistakes you and others make. I’m talking about the mistakes Jesus made.

  7. duperez

     /  26th February 2019

    The last part of the post doesn’t say it all. A couple of weeks ago there was a quote on here from an ex-school principal who was targeted with bullying on the site. No apology will give her career back or her life as it was back.

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  8. parmianter

     /  26th February 2019

    I am sorry that it has come to this for Cameron Slater. Love him or hate him, you have tostop and think – it must have been tough. I don’t wish this on anyone, and having known a few stroke victims, I do not believe he is making it up.

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    • I don’t think he is making up the fact that he had a stroke.

      I think there is reasonable doubt about the severity of the effects four months later given his legal circumstances. I don’t know myself, but there is an obvious difference between the claims on Whale Oil and what Blomfield has said. Both have direct interests in what his health mean for legal and financial matters.

      I know that Whale Oil is claiming ‘vexatious litigation’ which is in substantial contrast to public court documents that strongly suggest that that Slater has been found wanting with his blogging and his legal defences.

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      • Tipene

         /  27th February 2019

        Blomfield has seen the evidence, and gone public on the content – Slater is lying to the court, which is is his modus operandi when cornered – he lies, destroys evidence, or scurries away like a frightened beetle when caught out.

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  9. Tipene

     /  26th February 2019

    Looks like “Mr incapacitated” has shifted the ownership of Social media Consultants and the Whale oil blog to a shelf company, WOBH Ltd. DNR pointing to the same company, updated 2am this morning?

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  10. Karen

     /  26th February 2019

    Didn’t he have some financial issues way back before the blogging days?

    Some security firm that had some problems? Did he go bankrupt then as well?

    Anyone here know if this is a second bankruptcy or just the first?

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    • Tipene

       /  27th February 2019

      Correct, Karen, this is Slater’s second bankruptcy. He lived on Income Protection Insurance for a while under a Fidelity Life Policy, which only covered him for 2 years. When the policy ran out, rather than being grateful for the assistance he had received to date, he publically turned on the insurance company for not extending his cover.

      “Thank you” “I’m sorry”, and “I was wrong” are not phrases uttered by Mr Slater, which is why he has to repeatedly experience blunt force trauma consequences.

      Such is the nature of the sociopathic personality.

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  11. Blazer

     /  27th February 2019

    Income protection Insurance,Social Welfare beneficiary….persistent beggar….a right wing success story!

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