Media watch – Wednesday

27 February 2019

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    • Blazer

       /  27th February 2019

      be interesting to see if Goff stands again.
      JT is being very cute trying to rejoin Labour.

      His role as a vote splitter for the right to come through is quite clear now.

      Will it be Joyce…or have they groomed some other prospect.?

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  2. High Flying Duck

     /  27th February 2019

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    • Duker

       /  27th February 2019

      Thats what happens when they cry wolf non stop…mostly over absurd climate outcomes. Lines on graphs or coloured maps do not a catastrophe make

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  3. Gezza

     /  27th February 2019


    Jihadi Mike on false doctrine: Capital Gains Tax a train wreck driven by a naive Government

    If they really thought a new all-encompassing, sweepingly aggressive tax was going to be welcomed, they didn’t learn enough about the real world as they spent all those years at university, union meetings, and running NGOs.

    Enter Finance Minister Grant Robertson, who in his first major speech of the year to business tells them the Government isn’t bound by the tax report – why did he say that? Because he’s clearly worked out as well that this thing stinks to high heaven.

    More…
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12207675

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    • Duker

       /  27th February 2019

      Neither was national bound by its 2009 Tax Working Group which recommended a Land Tax

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    • Corky

       /  27th February 2019

      Jihadi Mikey has the beard; the style and the goods. Proud to be a Rightie.

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      • Gezza

         /  27th February 2019

        Wears his wife’s jackets. Doesn’t appear to own a shirt.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  27th February 2019

          Wears a beard that makes his head look egg-shaped.

          Isn’t a Jihadi and wouldn’t appreciate being called one.

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          • Gezza

             /  27th February 2019

            He looks like a Jihadi. They have beards and do that with their finger.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  27th February 2019

              I’d have thought that a Muslimophobe like Cork would not want to call his idol a Jihadi. Give him an infantile nickname, yes, but Jihadi ?

  4. PartisanZ

     /  27th February 2019

    The Blue-Tinge, Alt-Right, Right-Wing Christian Conservative Media at its VERY VERY WORST …

    Of all the things which could be highlighted from this tragic case, the Herald [via ODT] choses to focus on ‘Stoned’ …

    Arseholes!

    ‘Stoned hit and run driver who killed Oamaru teen Zara Blackie sentenced to home detention’

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12207804&ref=clavis

    “Before he left with his girlfriend about 10.30pm, he consumed three cans of bourbon and cola, and a quarter of a cannabis joint.”

    Even “killed” should be “accidentally killed” …

    “A police summary of facts said she tripped or stumbled into the path of the oncoming vehicle and the driver was unable to avoid hitting her.”

    Honestly … Fucken media arseholes!

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    • Gezza

       /  27th February 2019

      You’re talking about a paper that wrote a spurious headline and a few sentences a day or two ago about a young woman forced to pee on the floor of a bus on the way to a Six60 concert when the driver refused to stop and let her off, just so they could then show the video some grub took of her peeing in the doorwell and apologising.

      The Herald is an online paper now actively looking for new depths to plumb & constantly succeeding.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  27th February 2019

        Yeah … They succeed because we read their shameful click-bait trash …

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        • The Consultant

           /  27th February 2019

          The Blue-Tinge, Alt-Right, Right-Wing Christian Conservative Media…

          I realise that this Lefty nonsense about places like the Herald and Stuff.co.nz, has been a standard trope for decades, but in light of the fact that vast numbers of Right-Wingers (esp. the Christian Conservatives) have cancelled subscriptions, refuse to buy a paper, have switched off Broadcast media, and generally want that media to die, perhaps it’s time to ease up on your Koolaid and realise that most reporters and editors are Lefties in terms of ideology (supporting Lefty ideas) and politics (Jacinda, Jacinda, Jacinda, Amen, and the Greens).

          Can’t speak for the Blue-Rinse brigade but even they seem to read the Herald and watch ONENews only out of a lifetime habit and fear of touching a keyboard to get to InterWebby Thing sites.

          Oh sure, the MSM are not as Lefty as pure folk like you, Mr Z Mag, but that’s not really the same as saying they’re “Alt-Right” and all the other tripe you put out. That’s like Stalin’s label of Trotsky as a Far-Right Fascist.

          The focus on “Stoned” reveals less an ideological bent than simple ignorance combined with trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. But even in that, the 21st century MSM differs little from the days of William Randolph Hearst and his famous “Sob Sisters”. It’s just that people younger than 60 increasingly are not buying this crap anymore – literally.

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    • Corky

       /  27th February 2019

      ”Even “killed” should be “accidentally killed” …”

      No..killed is correct.

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      • Gezza

         /  27th February 2019

        Killed is factual. Accidentally killed is accurate.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  27th February 2019

          Exactly. It’s also accurate to say that it was a hit and run, even if there was no intention to kill.

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        • Corky

           /  27th February 2019

          I was talking morally.

          If you have a loaded gun. You know it’s loaded..and you risk aiming it and firing into an area with other people around with no intention of killing someone, and someone is shot..that’s straight out murder..a straight out kill.

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          • Gezza

             /  27th February 2019

            It’s probably manslaughter.

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            • Corky

               /  27th February 2019

              Legally yes. It shouldn’t be. It was murder. That’s were I part company with you and Parti. Parti seems to have taken that Herald article hard.He obviously has anger issues.

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              You’re getting a bit confusing now. If the driver intentionally ran this young lady over with the aim of killing her; that’s murder.

              If you think that accidentally hitting her and running for it is murder, you aren’t just parting company with Parti and me, you’re parting company with reality.

              Saying that it’s morally murder is losing the plot completely.

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              He obviously has anger issues.

              Luckily I stay calm in these situations and just quietly reason with those in error.

            • Corky

               /  27th February 2019

              I thought you meant my gun example.

              Yes, you do stay calm in these situations, but that’s more a matter of self control rather than a natural native state.

              ”Saying that it’s morally murder is losing the plot completely.”

              You aren’t factoring in his drinking and drug taking. Drinking and driving is morally wrong for starters. He abdicated his rational mind to some other power and influence willingly.

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              I thought you meant my gun example.

              You suddenly switched verb tense from hypothetical present to past tense. So I assumed you must be harking back to the actual past event and to have left the twilight zone inhabited by your hypothetical shooter because the two situations are not alike at all.

              You aren’t factoring in his drinking and drug taking.
              I am aware of these matters, so I am not discounting them. You are mistaken.

              Drinking and driving is morally wrong for starters.
              Depends how pissed one is & whether one is too drunk to drive safely.

              He abdicated his rational mind to some other power and influence willingly.

              He didn’t deliberately set out to kill someone. That’s what murder is. Your rationale for saying that what he did is murder is nonsense.

  5. Gezza

     /  27th February 2019

    Similar mass resignation protests have also taken place at Sonic restaurants in other Ohio locations, including Grove City and Lancaster.

    In Lancaster, signs saying “Goodbye” and “Thank you, next” have also been hung up, while a printed email from staff to the new owners has also been displayed, which describes the business as “the most trashiest company we have ever seen”.

    Sonic, a drive-in fast-food restaurant chain, was founded in 1953 and specialises in classic American fare such as fries, burgers and hot dogs.

    “Circleville, Lancaster, and Grove City crews have all walked out and quit after the franchise was bought out by corporate,” an anonymous source told the publication.

    “The regional director, two district managers and four general managers have all been let go. All of which have been working for the company in management for 7+ years.”

    “They cut workers pay from min wage to US$4.00 + tips. US$4.00. Plus tips. TIPS. AT A FAST FOOD JOINT,” one Twitter user posted, while another wrote: “I like Sonic, but I love this letter. It gives me so much hope to see workers supporting each other with bold actions like this. Best of luck to everyone involved.”
    … … …
    Shocking English, but might be good American? The two languages have diverged quite a bit now. But still … not a good look for Sonic. Good story for the Herald to run as a Business headliner. These days.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12207843

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    • PartisanZ

       /  27th February 2019

      WAY TO GO!!!

      Should probably read “classic American non-nutritional fast-food fare such as fries, burgers and hot dogs” …

      Cheap non-nutritional ‘food’ prepared and served by cheap labour to make a few franchise-holders and managers rich …

      A fucked-up equation in which something had to give …

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    • The Consultant

       /  27th February 2019

      Yay!

      Of course it should be noted that this is what you get with a strongly growing economy that’s generating a bucketload of jobs of all sorts and showing upward wage pressures as companies compete for people.

      In the next downturn the flow will reverse and people will grimly stick with jobs where they work for arseholes.

      ‘Twas ever thus.

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      • Gezza

         /  27th February 2019

        What sort of screwed up country lets someone pay their staff less than the minimum wage?

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        • Gezza

           /  27th February 2019

          Didn’t Trump say wages are going up everywhere?

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        • The Consultant

           /  27th February 2019

          Countries happy to see such companies go down the tube unless they’re prepared to pay competitive rates and get staff.

          Unlike NZ, where government subsidises shitty employers like this by topping up the crap minimum wage, and even higher wages, with WFF. The result of which is a job market that’s locked up, inviting further such “interventions”.

          I guess they could also do what NZ does: bump the minimum wage up, watch the number of such jobs fall, and pat themselves on the back. Meantime those jobs – which are not meant to be forever jobs but stepping stones to something better – simply aren’t there for the young who wanted the stepping stones to learn how to actually do a job. What they do instead is go on some government program.

          And it’s worked so well in NZ for years now that we even boast about “nice” we are – even if the result is an economy that performs like shit compared to the USA, and by shit I mean including for the working classes, minimum wage and all.

          But we look like a “kinder” society. That’s the main thing.

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          • Gezza

             /  27th February 2019

            Where do you live? Do you live in America?

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            • The Consultant

               /  27th February 2019

              What does that have to do with the points I made?

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              Paying people peanuts and expecting them to make up the rest of their wage in tips is a long time & disgraceful US American system of worker exploitation. If you live in that country you might think that is acceptable?

              And that’s what no minimum wage means. Desperate people end up having to work for a pittance and beg from the customers at the same time.

              If you can’t afford to pay people a decent wage you shouldn’t be running a business. You should get involved in the slave trade or offshoring your work to desperately poor countries where they’ll exploit their poor people for you and pay you for letting them.

              America is so fucked up their President doesn’t pay his federal workers when he doesn’t feel like it. And he was the same with contractors before they elected the con artist as their president.

              So … it makes a difference where you live if that’s the kind of world view you have.

              So … is that where you live? Or do you live in NZ, which apparently is a disastrous place for employers? Or where? Are you working in some 3rd world country where they pay their workers peanuts? Are you ashamed of where you live?

            • The Consultant

               /  27th February 2019

              Where I live should not matter a damn for this sort of argument – unless you’re determined to play the man and not the ball.

              Let’s just say that I have enough experience of America and the rest of the world that I don’t believe the sort of smug, NZ-superior shite that I did when younger: like this for example.

              Desperate people end up having to work for a pittance and beg from the customers at the same time.
              Tipping in the USA is so standard and expected that there’s no need to “beg” and no waiter/waitress does. Typically it’s calculated off the local sales taxes – doubling is the common method – which means it can run between 15-30% of the meal. And often it’s more because Americans are damned generous in their tipping – unlike fucking Euros on tour, who have to have it explained to them.

              The result is that the actual hourly wage for waiters pushes to $10-11. Moreover there are many states that actually legislate that a restaurant must top up the tips to a specified level if it falls short.

              Finally, when it comes to “fast-food” places it depends on the place: McDonalds and the like don’t have tipping because there’s no waiter service involved, any more than you’d tip the guy behind the auto-parts counter. If it’s a diner – that’s different and tips are part of the deal.

              Where “Sonic” restaurants fall I don’t know: never heard of the place.

              One last thing: I’d be very suspicious of anything reported in the NZ Herald, especially anything about the US. But they do know how to appeal to the ignorant prejudices of their readers, I’ll give them that.

              Not for much longer though!!! They’re dying. Oh – and they’re not exactly treating their employers well, at least judging by article today in the Spinoff. Low pay, long hours, doing the jobs of three people, and getting fired anyway. Maybe they should merge with Sonic.

              And no tips. Bastards. 🙂

            • The Consultant

               /  27th February 2019

              … and they’re not exactly treating their employees well,….

              Grrrr.

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              Stop whining, TC. I just thought one good rant – yours – deserved another.

              Where I live should not matter a damn for this sort of argument – unless you’re determined to play the man and not the ball.

              Lol. Goes on to compare tipping with our Minimum Wage by arguing some Americans tip well & in some states the wait staff have to declare tips so the employer can top them up to a mandated minimum.

              Tipping in the USA is so standard and expected that there’s no need to “beg” and no waiter/waitress does.

              Tipping in the USA is standard because it’s been so long understood you’re expected to top up the staff’s wage because the employer pays them shit.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th February 2019

              No, you are expected to reward good personal service to the local standards. It’s just as reasonable a system as ours where we expect the employer to judge standards rather than the customer.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  27th February 2019

              If the service is terrible, the thing to do is leave a tiny tip rather than one, which could be an oversight. Leaving a 10c tip shows that you think that that’s all it’s worth.

            • Gezza

               /  27th February 2019

              No, you are expected to reward good personal service to the local standards.

              Bs. You’re expected to tip. As most people can’t easily work out what the tip should be they wing it and chuck out extra money they don’t have to here because the employer is expected to pay you a decent wage. If you can’t afford to tip or don’t tip enuf you can get glared at, at the least, & shitty service. It’s a disgraceful system. Only a plonker would defend it.

              It’s just as reasonable a system as ours where we expect the employer to judge standards rather than the customer.

              Drivel. If you get shit service here you complain to the manager and they sort it out with the employee and often give you an apology or something extra as recompense. It also gives the staff member a chance to defend themselves if the customer’s just an unmitigated prick.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  28th February 2019

              Your experience to justify that opinion is?

            • Gezza

               /  28th February 2019

              Short time in LA myself, nephew in the US, sister & hubby visit every two years and tour some more they haven’t seen yet.

              Plus, I’ve complained about poor service to managers here – not very often. I’ve also complimented good service.

              Plus, I’ve met some unmitigated pricks & seen others in action.

  6. MaureenW

     /  27th February 2019

    What happened to Kerre McIvor on ZB? (I’m not a fan). They’re now running sport in the 9.00am slot. Switched to another station, found Peter Williams – he seemed ok for the bit I listened to.

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    • duperez

       /  27th February 2019

      I think it was something to do with servicing transmission gear or somesuch. Some comment about it on Radiosport yesterday or Monday.

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  7. Kitty Catkin

     /  27th February 2019

    I saw that Cardinal Pell was convicted of molesting two, not five victims; it must have been five offences.

    This seems very odd. I can’t believe that a molester would restrain themselves to that extent. Can it be that a gross miscarriage of justice has happened as happened with the Canadian priest whose crimes happened when he wasn’t in the country ? I would have thought that if this man was really a paedophile, he’d have done it to more than two boys.

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    • Gezza

       /  27th February 2019

      So much still seems to be suppressed from what I’ve seen. This conviction is for offences against two boys, one of whom has passed away. He denies it. What we do know sounds odd to me. But we don’t know the full circumstances or arguments. Nor whether there have been other allegations and these two were the only ones to make it to Court. So who knows. He is appealing the decision. I don’t much care what happens though. He seems to have been part of the usual Catholic Church cover up programme anyway. The Pope’s desperately struggling to come up with a set of rules that amounts to if a priest has committed a sex crime you must report it to the police. That they need telling this is disgraceful.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  27th February 2019

        Other charges were thrown out, it seems,

        I am just surprised that someone would restrict himself to two alleged victims; this seems like unnatural restraint.

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    • MaureenW

       /  27th February 2019

      Pell has been around this space for years – protecting other catholic predators. Gerald Risdale comes to mind – they’ll be able to catch up in prison

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  27th February 2019

        How do you know that ?

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        • MaureenW

           /  27th February 2019

          I lived in Melbourne during the 80’s and 90’s through the Risdale period – and knew a few well connected people. Pell is no surprise – the fact he’s been tried and found guilty is the surprise.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  28th February 2019

            That’s not an an answer.

            Surely, if he did it, he’d do it to more than two, but the other charges were thrown out. I can’t believe that a paedophile would be so restrained.

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