Newshub Nation – Simon Bridges on CGT and other tax questions

Will Michael Cullen front up on Nation next? (for $1k a day).

Is our tax system fair as it stands? Fair to whom? It’s a bit of an impossible question.

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  1. unitedtribes2

     /  9th March 2019

    He is getting better

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    • Gezza

       /  9th March 2019

      Yes, he is getting better. He’s getting better at Question Time too. He’s even managing to show a bit of genuine humour and a more relaxed approach, evening allowing himself a grin when he’s just had a joke made at his expense – we’ve had less of that permanent wooden, earnestness that made him seem so robotic, lately.

      I might watch the full interview on demand.

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  2. Blazer

     /  9th March 2019

    Going by his presentation and mannerisms Simon has morphed into ….a male Paula Bennett…the 2 Maori leaders of the B team…👏

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    • Duker

       /  9th March 2019

      Thats because their media training is done as a ‘two for one ‘ deal.

      The trouble with interviews like this , is “Emma” has skimmed the executive summary of the TWG report, and has producers provide lines of questioning which she just wants to play out. Bridges would have done some mock interviews with his trainers – it comes from his prosecutor background. Questions are rehearsed , witnesses are coached, but in the political theatre substance is replaced by theatrics – tricky seems to be a line taken from Trump.

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    • Finbaar Rustle

       /  9th March 2019

      Neither are Maori. They are both brown Pakeha.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th March 2019

        Witnesses can only be coached to some extent, surely; the other side won’t do this.

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  3. David

     /  9th March 2019

    The problem with under estimating smart driven people is that they are smart and driven. Bridges was always on track to surprise on the upside.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  9th March 2019

      There is little room for a surprise on the downside.

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    • Duker

       /  9th March 2019

      new media training, , and maybe they have Crosby Textor back on retainer
      https://crosbytextorgroup.com/

      “Our team of over 80 international, multilingual staff operate from offices in
      London, Sydney, Washington D.C, Milan, Canberra and Auckland.”

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      • Trevors_Elbow

         /  9th March 2019

        Wow CT the bogeymen…..

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        • Blazer

           /  9th March 2019

          I seem to remember Honky Tonks after the Brash episode,swearing he would not ever use CT….changed his mind…apparently.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  9th March 2019

            Please use the person’s real name. Who on earth are you talking about ? I am surprised that Pete hasn’t requested that you use the name.

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  4. Duker

     /  9th March 2019

    Fair to whom says PG.

    “Household net worth in New Zealand is concentrated in the top 20 percent of Kiwi households surveyed in the past year. That group collectively holds about 70 percent of total household net worth. ”

    “Over the same period, from the year ended June 2015 to the June 2018 year, the net worth of the bottom 40 percent has not increased.

    1 in 5 households have been getting much richer ($360 per day) while PG wonders if the tax system is fair to whom
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/wealth-of-top-20-percent-rises-by-394000

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    • alloytoo

       /  9th March 2019

      Tax systems don’t make people richer, people make people richer.

      Tax systems do however make people poorer.

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  5. Trevors_Elbow

     /  9th March 2019

    Tax is already heavy on those with incomes above 70k, especially those with no dependent children. Income Tax, GST on most spending, excessive duties/ tarriffs etc on fuel at the pump… the list is long and then you add local government imposts and the State is sticking it to many middle income Kiwi’s…

    But hey, the Socialists love playing the envy game so any wealth is a sin and should be taken to give to their supporters!! Because Poverty!! Because Equality!! are the slogans… But really because it gives Socialist ballot box power and the ability to control peoples lives to fit their nihilistic philosophy

    If Socialists are so desperate to address supposed income distribution issues – well form an association to which you pay 15% of YOUR gross income and distribute it to needy people. This is on top of your current tax burden course because Equality Comrade!.

    Think of the good you will do! Think of how you would be practicing pure socialism without a coercive State forcing YOUR ideals on the rest of us who believe in you get what you work for….

    Yeah Bol will rant about inherited wealth yada yada… but frankly the wealthy haven’t stopped me getting ahead nor the vast majority of the people I went through a bog standard working class school with getting ahead either.

    CGT – just another tax grab to allow stupid bureaucrats and socialists to squander more money, force more people into welfare and State dependency while slowly grinding initiative out of people.

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    • Duker

       /  9th March 2019

      yeah right …. everyone can see that , which is why ACTs vote is so high.
      In reality its 0.5% ….. you just live in a fanatsy bubble

      CGT isnt a tax on peoples ‘income’ save the rant – its about the ‘unearned’ wealth mainly from property value rises and still is only a portion of the rise

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    • Fight4NZ

       /  9th March 2019

      That ‘association ‘ you referred to is called the Govt. And all the socialists and middle class are contributing, you just spelt that out. After all they don’t have the avoidance strategies available to them that the wealthy non-contributing employ. And since most wealth is gained through inheritance I am unsure why you are claiming that they would know hard work if it hit them in the face?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th March 2019

        Death duties crippled people; they’d be left estates that they couldn’t maintain because there had been such heavy death duties. If two heirs died in a short time, it was disastrous. Historic houses had to be abandoned, because they couldn’t be sold.

        I don’t believe that most wealth is gained through inheritance. Dream on.

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  6. Blazer

     /  9th March 2019

    ‘But hey, the wealthy love playing the envy card, saying any wealth is a result of hardwork and intelligence and that should be an unchallenged premise!

    Because poverty is your own fault!! Because ,fuck equality!! are the slogans…

    But really because owning the MSM gives the wealthy the opportunity to peddle nonsense,like trickle down theory,a rising tide lifts all boats and other b/s slogans ,all disguised as self responsibility and aspiration.

    And the pity is people actually …buy it.

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    • Trevors_Elbow

       /  9th March 2019

      That is pathetic Blazer! Is that it? Really …..

      You get a life by working, not pissing your income up against a wall or paying your wages off to a dealer, by not having multiple kids before you get established…. all simple stuff even a confirmed fool, like you, can grasp.

      The lefts strategy is tell people its not there fault – and by extension its all a vast conspiracy to stop people getting ahead. Its BS – complete and utter BS especially in NZ, where opportunity is laid out for every child, as long as their parents grasp that opportunity.

      You don’t get a reasonable life in NZ – then you are either VERY unlucky 9and therefore need a helping hand) or you are stupid in which case you need some direction to sort your own shit out.

      Its amazing how many people in this country when they meet the right person, settle down, grind it our for a few years and all of a sudden have a decent life.

      Its not handed to you on a platter – you need to work at obtaining the life you want.

      And a reasonable life doesn’t mean having all the toys – envy of what others have is a gateway to a personal hell inhabited by raving looneys like the denizens of the Standard…….you seem to have passed through that portal a long time ago Blazer I hope its hot enough for you..

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th March 2019

        A couple I knew had a well-built, solid little bach for their first house. It was very small, and when they could, they added to it. They sold it later and bought a larger one, again when they could. It was luck that they found the little house, as it was so well built, but foresight that made them see that it would be a first step on the way to owning the house they really wanted.

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      • Fight4NZ

         /  9th March 2019

        And there’s no such thing as the working poor.

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  7. Blazer

     /  9th March 2019

    we can’t all be like you Trevor!

    what does this actually mean?’haven’t stopped me getting ahead ‘

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  8. Kitty Catkin

     /  9th March 2019

    I hope that none of the pupils who will be pointlessly ‘on strike’ have parties with the sort of things I have just seen on a K Mart email. Almost everything disposable, hardly anything (except possibly the wooden cutlery) reusuable or recyclable. Foil balloons are not, as far as I know recyclable. Most of the party stuff will end up in landfill.

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  9. duperezthge stuff in the tax group

     /  9th March 2019

    “This is the most radical, hairy-chested capital gains tax and tax reform New Zealand has probably ever seen, and National is entitled to take a view on it.”

    Be a bit stupid for National to take a view that the CGT stuff is from suggestions or recommendations in a report not a fait accompli. This is most radical, hairy-chested reds-under-the-bed politicking.

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    • duperez

       /  9th March 2019

      Oops, how did that happen?🙃

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      • Gezza

         /  9th March 2019

        Shades of Davids Cunliffe &Shearer, & Andy Little. Shearer was particularly disastrous, I used to wince and plead out loud watching him on tv: “FFS, say something that isn’t utterly stuttering dribble – anything!. Or just bloody shut up and walk away!” Totally useless at being interviewed, and Little wasn’t much better because he never had any details of any policy announcements during interviews & always ended up looking & sounding like he hadn’t a clue, really, about whatever he was talking about.

        Goffy I can’t even remember – except that he turned up to their first post-election conference on a motorbike that was visibly too big for him & it made him look pathetic instead of tuff and cool.

        Can’t ever remember a time when Oppositions didn’t constantly whine at every opportunity that virtually everything the government was doing was going to bring ruin & disaster down upon the heads of all decent, hardworking New Zealanders, though.

        That was when Jacinda, preaching warm and fuzzy and sweetness and light made a breakthrough and it just got better when she announced she was preggers and delivered bubs as well.

        It was such a contrast from the constant carping negativity that people now associate with leaders of the Opposition from National and Labour. Act’s not really important so who cares what they say. And Peters is always just having fun and conning different redneck voting blocks – again, so nobody apart from the forgetful and the haters really paid much attention to him – just Winnie getting himself in the limelight and giggling, as always – indicating even he wasn’t taking himself seriously.

        There are not enough head to head style political interview programs, and Q&A and Newshub Nation segments are too short and too many. Put them against each other and make then 30 minutes long, folk might get a better look at who’d make the best PM.

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