15 March 2019
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Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Fark!
A gunman has reportedly opened fire in the Christchurch Mosque near Hagley Park.
The former president of the Muslim Association of Canterbury Mohammed Jama said a man with a gun went into the mosque about 1.40pm on Friday.
He saw about four people injured and two people lying on the ground. He did not know if they were alive or dead.
More…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313238/shooting-at-christchurch-mosque
High Flying Duck
/ 15th March 2019Posted on Open Forum on this also.
Hagley Park being cleared on Climate Marching kids.
Bangladeshi cricket team were in the Mosque, but apparently got away OK.
Schools in lockdown.
Police calling for people to “stay indoors”.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019One must hope that there are not many deaths.
It’s sickening that the bigots and Islamophobes have sparked this in NZ, where such things just don’t happen. I hope that those who constantly put false stories online are feeling a bit of guilt, but it’s a faint hope.
High Flying Duck
/ 15th March 2019It sounds horrific. Over 300 in the mosque and the gunman let off “dozens, if not hundreds of rounds” when everyone was on their knees praying.
“Ahmad Al-Mahmoud, 37, described the shooter as white skinned, blond, quite short and wearing a helmet and a bulletproof vest.”
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019ZB host is saying we know know there have shootings in TWO mosques?
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019*now know
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019What presence of mind to note all that.
It would be impossible to estimate the number of shots, with the echo and ricochets. They said that the police took a long time, but it would seem a long time, even if it was only a few minutes. I can imagine it seeming to be hours before the police arrived.
High Flying Duck
/ 15th March 2019Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Is scrolling in red on the Breaking News Red Banner on Aljazeera Tv right now.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019HFD’s Live link
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313938/live-coverage-police-attending-evolving-situation-in-christchurch
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Shots fired at Christchurch hospital, reports
There are reports of more shots fired at Christchurch hospital. ??
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Men led from building, police carrying children
Four or five men with their hands on their head were led by police from a building in Linwood.
Mitch Redman, a witness at the scene, said the men came out of the building on Aldwins Rd about 2.20pm.
Police carried out two or three children from the building and put them in a car, he said.
There was a heavy police presence in the area, he said.
Tvnz crew forced to climb over a fence …
Obviously a scary situation, but some of this sounds a bit hysterical …
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019TVNZ ghouls should fuck off and let the police get on with it.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019I was having a bad day but this is infinitely worse. Horrifically shameful and awful.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019It’s item one right now on Ajazeera Tv news, pics & talking to Sam Clarke nz journalist, live
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Aljaz has just shown footage of casualties being taken ex ambo into hospital on stretchers.
They are promising to return to the item throughout their current news bulletin, actively seeking further information in NZ…
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Stuff reporting nine dead.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Aljaz tv Breaking News Banner shows:
Ginman in New Zealand Mosque Shooting appears to have live-streamed attack.
Showing police tweets re the sitution, presenter is on the phone (unclear line) to some official from Islamic Community representative in Wellington.
Mentioning unconfirmed reports another Mosque in Christchurch is in lockdown or has been targeted.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019He says gunman went through different rooms, targeting different groups, over maybe 20 minutes – including shooting women in the women’s room.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Showing video of reporter speaking to blood-spattered man who was in the mosque during the shooting … saying “injured, there was about 50 or 60 people, but deaths I hope, none.”
Says he was the last man out,
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019He says gunman went through different rooms, targeting different groups, over maybe 20 minutes – including shooting women in the women’s room.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Another witness in the mosque can’t find his wife yet, saw some people shot dead, he thinks, says it went on for maybe 5 or 6 minutes.
Griff.
/ 15th March 2019[Deleted]
Trevors_elbow
/ 15th March 2019Pure speculation and placing blame with no facts. Pure Griff. Wait to see who these fools are
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Agreed. It could be a Rightie.. a feral Lefty or a Muslim. We don’t know. Latest reports aren’t too flash.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Chch has had a skinhead problem for a long time. Seems the lunatics have got a lot worse. Will be questions about whether this could have been detected and prevented if it wasn’t just a lone maniac wolf.
Griff.
/ 15th March 2019The attack is on line from the shooters perspective. .
Guy was walking around shooting with a go pro on his helmet it was being up loaded to the web live .
No i will not give a link find it your self if you want to see death..
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019You idiot.
NOEL
/ 15th March 2019https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/03/15/490360/many-dead-in-christchurch-mosque-shooting
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Why even mention that Griff. You know perfectly well the Streisand Effect that will have had.
Griff.
/ 15th March 2019You just posted a report from the cops that mentions it.
It was obvious to me that knowledge of the vids existence would emerge .
It is also obvious The cops cant police the entire web it will be out there if you look hard enough.
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Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Herald is reporting one gunman is an Australian who wrote a 37 page manifesto declaring his intentions.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Full details:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213076
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Cops say they have one shooter in custody but there may be others.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Herald has a photo of cops rammed suspect’s car.
PDB
/ 15th March 2019This video is fine PG – passer by filming police capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KF2NFQwIvE
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Yep he sounds like an aussie.
PDB
/ 15th March 2019Had an obsession with declining white birth rates.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019The Bangladesh cricket team are wanting to leave New Zealand ‘as soon as possible’, after narrowly avoiding a shooting at a mosque in central Christchurch this afternoon.
The team is in Christchurch to play New Zealand in the third cricket test starting tomorrow, at Hagley Oval, and had just arrived at the Al Noor Mosque for Friday prayer when a gunman opened fire.
Video shows several Bangladeshi players and media escaping the scene.
More…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12213061
Zedd
/ 15th March 2019I just turned on AlJz.. it is on now: Shooting in ChCh mosque.
WTF !?? 😦
Griff.
/ 15th March 2019Stuff is now reporting two masque attacked .
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/111313238/shooting-at-christchurch-mosque
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019I’ll believe that when I see it.
Joe Bloggs
/ 15th March 2019simultaneous attacks on two mosques
– Al Noor Mosque
– Linwood Masjid mosque
both the Herald and Stuff websites have updates
this is a terrible terrible day.
Joe Bloggs
/ 15th March 2019and a third active shooting outside Chch hospital according to the Herald at 4pm
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019I didn’t mean that the way it sounds….I was just thinking that rumours fly around. Carelessness on my part.
artcroft
/ 15th March 2019Words can’t describe how appalling this is. Unbelievable.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Oh, Arty..people are yet to wake up to the ramifications of this evil. Make no mistake, we will collectively all pay for this atrocity.
The course of rational debate is out the window. New hate crime legislation. Domestic flights now screened. Knee jerk reactions left, right and centre.
All because of some nutsjobs murdered the innocent. Why didn’t they go to Syria if they wanted to fight?
duperez
/ 15th March 2019The alleged madman has been identified online.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Your dire predictions have got it the wrong way round, Corky. Exactly the reverse has happened.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Well, yes..and no. Thinking through future implications is a grim prospect.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019There is no reason to believe that NZ Muslims will run amok and do the same.
Please show a little respect here.If you can’t, just don’t say anything.
PDB
/ 15th March 2019Awful footage – like a video game. The guy is an Aussie-born 28 year old.
I note Whaleoil is more concerned this will lead to a crackdown on firearm ownership then actually giving a shit for the victims of this.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Jadinda’s press conference being carried live on Aljazeera …
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Superb response from Jacinda.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019‘Live: Massacre at the mosques – gunmen kill multiple people, Christchurch under siege’
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039
‘Mosque shooting: Christchurch gunman livestreamed shooting’
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213076
[Deleted. I don’t want any accusations, insinuations, blaming of anyone. Lashing out at people is not going to help the situation. We can and should be horrified by what happened, but need to avoid inflaming and dividing, because the opposite is now essential. PG]
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019Somewhere there’s a hole … that ‘someone’ really ought to be … crawling back into …
Corky
/ 15th March 2019I don’t think he’s interested in crawling into a hole, Parti.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019Thanks PG … but I reserve the right to express my horror in my own way …
Happy to be deleted or banned …
Pete George
/ 15th March 2019It’s not a right to comment here, it’s a privilege. And I have a responsibility to edit things as I see fit. I have no problem with people expressing horror, it has been a horrible afternoon in Christchurch. But I don’t want that to stray into blaming and inflaming.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019[Deleted – I don’t want any links to any coverage or material of this despicable person or persons. I don’t want to gibe them the publicity and coverage that they used the murder of people to generate. PG]
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Ok. Understood PG.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019It shows a very fucked up mind.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019Of course the effect of this psychopath’s actions will be exactly the reverse of what he wanted.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019At this stage I’m assuming a lone wolf but did he commit both assaults?
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Police Commissioner on now. “We have four people in custody.” We are pouring defence police emergency resources into that area. We are also setting up a facility so that people can get more information. We don’t have identities of people who have died yet because the affected sites (both mosques are in lockdown). Taking questions.
Four in custody – 3 men, 1 woman, he believes, atm.
Has seen the shooters footage, very disturbing shouldnt be in public domain doing everything they can to remove.
We shouldn’t assume danger is gone. Won’t assume there aren’t others.
A number of IEDs attached to vehicles they have stopped, made safe by defence personnel.
A host of comms staff to his left to keep people informed.
Officers outside Chch being armed as well, not assuming is limited to Christchurch
Conference over – he has other immediate responsibilities
Corky
/ 15th March 2019So now thanks to this prick all our embassies will be on lockdown. The Kiwi passport won’t be worth shit.
[Deleted]
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019May be on an Aussie passport, we don’t know yet.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Said he’s an Australian and that he intended to stay temporarily but took up residence. I think he will have an Australian passport. Classic white supremacist.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019The only google hit on his name I found was a personal trainer in Big River (NSW?) in 2010. No doubt the media will be all over him soon.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019I hope so, Alan. But I think this incident is already indelibly associated with New Zealand.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 15th March 2019If Aussie can send back our crooks, can we send back their mass murderers?
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019We’ll probably have to. Overseas they shoot them dead and interview them later.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019I can’t see why an Australian murderer should affect NZ passports.
I wonder if he chose NZ in part because Aussie police have been armed for decades ?
Conspiratoor
/ 15th March 2019To paraphrase a quote from the shooter (who has been named) from tv1 just now…
I havent lived in nz long. I chose the country to launch this because it was so ‘target rich’
Pete George
/ 15th March 2019Any country that has millions of people would be ‘target rich’ for cretins who mass murder defenceless innocent people.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Yep, so innocent..and unprepared.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019I’ve just heard an ex-police negotiator say he never expected this to happen in New Zealand.
I find that both astounding..and frightening.
Pete George
/ 15th March 2019I’m astounded that it has happened here. It hasn’t happened in many countries. Sadly it only took a very small number of sick individuals to inflict this on New Zealand. It’s actually the opposite of what you have suggested would happen here.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019No, it isn’t, Pete. See below. Its the second cause of what I said would/could probably happen.
Personally what has happened is no surprise to me. How could it be, the signs of cause and effect can be seen all over the Western World.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Paddy Gower has joined the ranks of those who can’t get their heads around this.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Could you point me to some post of yours where you predicted some fucken white supremacist aussie mongrel would come to NZ to massacre muslims?
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th March 2019I would like to think that you meant that sincerely and not sarcastically, given the things that you have said about Muslims.
phantom snowflake
/ 15th March 2019Plenty of *concern* being expressed on NZ National Front site; for example:
“I am deeply troubled by this. This is ‘bad optics’. I hope and pray that no one in the ethno-nationalist community has had anything to do with this. Because we know what’s coming: Government crackdown, surveillance, increased gun control and an emboldened Antifa harassing us.”
http://www.nationalfront.org.nz/?p=11970#comment-86578
Corky
/ 15th March 2019That’s a given..and worse.
phantom snowflake
/ 15th March 2019Well I’m certainly not a fan of the “Surveillance State” but it would a relief to so many HARMLESS anti-mining and animal rights activists, for example, to have the so-called Intelligence Agencies turn their attention to actually dangerous people!
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019And GOOD … JOB!
Crack down hard on them like we would any other ‘community’ who did this sort of thing.
Maybe offer amnesty too … for any ‘members’ willing to commit to counselling for their racism
Corky
/ 15th March 2019They would already be under watch. Commentators who have lived in Christchurch have stated there has always been groups of Skinners and White Supremacists. One of my rellies just escaped with his life after being stabbed from one back when the Harris Gang was around. Hell, the National Front leader was a regular caller to Willie Jackson and John Tamahere’s talkback show.
But I would be surprised if they were officially involved in this massacre. The pay-off is not worth it.
That said, some above have forgotten I have stated numerous times that the other part of the terrorist equation is white Nationalists and the possibility they could snap if they feel they are losing their country because of various reasons.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019Serves your purpose either way eh?
Words cannot express my disgust …
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Give it a miss, Parti.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019I’m with Patzcuaro down below there Corky …
“Out, damned spot”
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Buchanan on 1ewes special says he was watching Tarrant on social media and while he was carrying out his attack he was being cheered on by people, including New Zealanders.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Aljazeera tv showing Jacinda press conference again. Showning banner saying Police have asked that people not attend mosques anywhere in the country.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th March 2019Perhaps the New Zealand community should protect the mosques, so muslims can pray. Adopt a mosque.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Hillary Barry says police have confirmed Brenton Tarrant is one of those arrested. Still unclear whether he was the gunman at the Linton Mosque.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Jacinda 2nd press conference live now
7.24 pm
40 people believed dead.
Gezza
/ 15th March 20194 arrested. 3 in custody. All have described themselves as Australians.
Gezza
/ 15th March 201948 with gunshot wounds being treated in hospital
Pete George
/ 15th March 2019That’s sickening, horrendous. Very sad.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019Jacinda doing a superb job here. Also showing live on Al jazeera tv.
Pete George
/ 15th March 2019I agree, she can really step up when needed. Very strong performance.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th March 2019How much culpability do people who railed against Muslims have in this. As minor cogs feeding the hatred that spawned this. Some posters on this blog have blood on their hands.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019Could not agree more!
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Oh, yeah. The shooters read YNZ. That was a major influence on their actions. Newsflash, these people don’t read blogs that have a handful of people prattling among themselves..and to themselves.
These people don’t talk shit..the do shit.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th March 2019They may not read this blog but people like you provide subtle affirmation for their actions, normalizing their actions and thoughts.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th March 2019What cost to New Zealand’s international reputation, it might have been committed by Australians but it happened in Christchurch New Zealand.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019You are talking nonsense. I’m really seeing peoples true colours at the moment.
”What cost to New Zealand’s international reputation, it might have been committed by Australians but it happened in Christchurch New Zealand.”
Can you read?
Corky / March 15, 2019:
I hope so, Alan. But I think this incident is already indelibly associated with New Zealand.
Gezza
/ 15th March 2019What’s being indelibly associated with NZ at the moment on Aljaz tv is that some Aussie racist came to NZ and massacred Muslims here, that our security services maybe missed him, that maybe so did Australia’s, and that our PM and Australia’s PM are horrified that an Australian white supremacist with many views that mirror some of yours came here and did that.
What’s also being shown is the shock and horror of New Zealanders that someone could come here and do such a thing.
PartisanZ
/ 15th March 2019Depends where else you spew your vicious poison racist bile, doesn’t it Corky.
Corky
/ 15th March 2019Talk to your mates, Parti. I have explained myself time and again. If you refuse to accept I have valid points too, that’s your problem. Not mine.
Patzcuaro
/ 15th March 2019Judging by today it may well be our problem.