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16 March 2019

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19 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  March 16, 2019

    So the thug that bashed James Shaw got name suppression because being named would damage his business,well tough titties you are not very brave after the act.

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    • It is interim suppression, giving the court time to properly deal with arguments for and against.

      RNZ: Interim name suppression for alleged assailant of James Shaw

      The 47-year-old man accused of attacking James Shaw appeared in the Wellington District Court on Friday afternoon on one charge of injuring with intent to injure and was granted interim name suppression until he reappears in court.

      The man entered no plea and his lawyer, Marty Robinson told the court his client had been badly affected by a family-related medical event earlier in the week.

      In seeking interim name suppression, he also said the man ran a business which could also suffer if it was linked with the attack on Mr Shaw.

      Judge Ian Mill granted the man on strict conditions, including that he not attack James Shaw and not use violence against any person.

      Police sought another condition ordering the man to stay out of Wellington, but Mr Robinson said that would be a disproportionate imposition because it would affect his client’s ability to continue operating his business.

      Judge Mill granted that condition, saying the man cannot enter Wellington until his next court appearance except to meet his lawyer.

      The man will reappear in Court on 29 March.

      Mr Shaw suffered a broken eye socket, bloody nose and lacerations to his face after being grabbed and hit on Glenmore Street near the Botanic Gardens in Wellington.

      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/384783/interim-name-suppression-for-alleged-assailant-of-james-shaw

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      • NOEL

         /  March 16, 2019

        I’ve said it before. I favour everyone gets name suppression until conviction then no one gets it.

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        • Patzcuaro

           /  March 16, 2019

          I don’t agree with blanket name suppression until convicted, not guilty doesn’t mean innocent, just that it can’t be proved. Justice needs to be open.

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          • NOEL

             /  March 16, 2019

            I dunno, we saw a hint of the US everyone put you case to the media before going to court when the British girl was murdered. His name and perceived past history was prominent. Social media will result in more of that carry on so we might as well nip it in the bud now.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 16, 2019

              I agree, and I’d like to the televising of trials stopped; they are treated like courtroom dramas, not real life.

              Justice doesn’t need to have the case and all the details broadcast, the face and name of the accused also broadcast.

              Not Guilty does, of course, include ‘not enough evidence for a conviction’ but better that than an innocent person being used like a character in a whodunnit.

  2. Zedd

     /  March 16, 2019

    This song was written to express the grief at the slaying of One man… but one line says it all ‘Its funny (NOT) how one INSECT can damage so much grain !’

    enuf sed 😦

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 16, 2019

      I assume that he doesn’t mean funny ha-ha,

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      • Zedd

         /  March 16, 2019

        I think its means ‘funny-STRANGE’ ?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 16, 2019

          ‘Funny peculiar or funny ha-ha ?’

          Ian Hay, The Schoolmaster.

          Ian Hay is not widely known now, but he deserves immortality for that quote/

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  3. Gezza

     /  March 16, 2019

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  4. Gezza

     /  March 16, 2019

    I’m very proud of our volunteer fire service in Tawa. We’ve got a volunteer rural fire service operation here too, I often see them training or hanging out their hoses to dry if they’ve had a callout.

    As I was coming back from lunch at ma’s I heard the Tawa Fire Station siren going so out of curiosity to see what happened I turned into the street where the 2-engine fire station is and parked up out of the way. It was 1.50 pm.

    Within 2 minutes cars, 3 SUV’s, and builder’s ute, came hurrying past and turned into the station car park. two women & four men. Then one station door opened and one of the engines came out, with a full crew, and turned into Main Road siren blaring. Probably a crash on the motorway.

    5 minutes had passed.

    Unsung heroes. We’ve got them all over the country.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 16, 2019

      We had a volunteer fireman across the road…one morning, at 2.45, in filthy weather, the hooter went and my bedroom was lit up by his headlights.

      Another time I saw him coming back…he wouldn’t have had time to go inside before the hooter went off again and he ran back to the car.

      A local busdriver drove the holiday programme buses for years (might still do) and took nothing except a discount for his children.

      There was a man in the paper who had a cardiac arrest by the roadside. His wife was shaking and trying to use the phone…someone came. helped her. called a number that alerts trained first-aiders and did some himself. The man’s life was saved at the small cost of some broken ribs (anyone’s who’s learned CPR on the dummy that’s made exactly like a person will know how much pressure it takes; it’s very difficult)

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  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  March 16, 2019

    How PC is this ?

    I was at a book launch this morning. and they had a sign language interpreter there.Nobody was deaf, nobody was looking at her as she gestured and grimaced away. It was simply distracting and, of course, a total waste of her time.

    Why not ask if anyone needs it ? It was pointless using sign language when nobody could understand it; about as much use as translating it into Sanskrit.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 16, 2019

      About .22% ‘speak’ nothing else.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 16, 2019

        30% chance at least one person ‘speaks’ it in a group of 200, then.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 16, 2019

          It would surely be less than that.

          .22% not 22%.

          Round it up to .25% for ease of calculation…isn’t that 1 in about 500 ?

          I saw no point at all in having it when nobody needed it.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 16, 2019

            Odds don’t work like that. There is a .998 chance each person does not need sign language. You have to multiply all of those together to find the odds that none of the people in the group need sign language. When you do it 200 times it comes to about 0.67 so about 30% chance someone does. That is also why the chance two kids in a class of 30 have the same birthday is much higher than you would expect.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 16, 2019

              Well, there was nobody there who did, so it was a pointless waste of time.

              My brother-in-law’s former business partner moved to NZ, to the Waikato.

              He and a late friend of ours were at Sherbourne public school at the same time (UK public, of course)

              They have both been here at the same time. So two in went to the same UK school, two were connected via b-i-l., and all three were in this room.

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