New Zealand and the world overwhelmingly defies aims of Christchurch terrorist

Aims of the man who killed 49 people in two Christchurch mosques included trying to divide New Zealand and the world, trying to inflate hate. His atrocities have had the opposite effect.

While there have been isolated attempts at excusing his actions, of victim blaming, and other inappropriate responses, New Zealanders have have overwhelmingly expressed disgust at the mass murder of innocent and defenceless people, and have overwhelmingly shown sympathy and empathy for the victims and their families and friends, and for the whole Muslim community throughout New Zealand.

Vigils for Christchurch mosque shooting victims held across the country

Thousands of people have gathered across New Zealand to mourn the victims of Friday’s terror attack in Christchurch.

At Deans Avenue mosque, people wanting to pay their respects laids flowers at a police cordon, as armed offenders swept the area with metal detectors on Saturday.

In Auckland, thousands of people attended at vigil at Aotea Square, with more planned across the country.

‘We love you’: mosques around world showered with flowers after Christchurch massacre

Mosques in New Zealand and around the world have been inundated with floral tributes and messages of support after a massacre in Christchurch in which 49 Muslims were killed.

The strongest response from the public was in New Zealand, which is reeling in the wake of the worst peacetime mass killing in the nation’s history.

The outpouring of support for the Muslim community was so large that outside some mosques there was nowhere for well-wishers to park. Some messages read: “We love you”, “We are one” and “Forever changed”.

In Australia, the response to the massacre was similarly heartfelt, with tributes pouring into mosques across the country.

The outpouring of support continued in America where people also left candles outside mosques.

In Britain, solidarity was also on show.

Muslim places of worship in Canada also saw tributes.

Typical around the world:

Muslims are New Zealanders, residents or citizens, like the rest of us. They were going about their lives peacefully. Many of them came to New Zealand seeing it as a place safe from awful situations overseas.

It has been reported that victims are associated with a number of countries, including Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia.

New Zealanders, have been out in force around the country and on social media showing their sympathy for those affected by the atrocities, and their solidarity with Muslims and their communities.

Rather than divide the awful events have done the opposite, they have initiated outpourings of peaceful messages, of sympathy, of love, of togetherness.

Kiwis are overwhelmingly demonstrating that, while terrorism cannot always be avoided, the effects can be negated by defying the aims of sick, murderous individuals.

A lot of credit needs to be given to people who helped victims of the shootings on and around the scenes in Christchurch on Friday. People who must have been at risk themselves helped their fellow human beings in need.

The police officers and ambulance officers had very demanding jobs to do, uncertain of the risks of the situations they were putting themselves into. Many of them deserve a lot of praise – when the going gets tough people stepped up big time.

Two police officers, aware in part at least of what had happened, aware of the likelihood the perpetrator would still be armed (he was), rammed and disable his car and apprehended him. This bravery, risking their lives, may well have saved other lives.

Give-a-Little – Victim Support Official Page: Christchurch Shooting Victims’ Fund – currently $2,836,767.17 donated.

A Muslim in Dunedin wrote:

“I live in Dunedin and we have experienced nothing but kindness respect and understanding from everyone we have come into contact with.

I have lived here for three years and have many friends who have helped me to settle here.

Everyone is devastated by this terrible tragedy and it not only deeply saddens Muslims living here but all New Zealanders.

There are people everywhere who are misguided and full of hate. We must learn to love more and hate less. 

We respect all religions and cultures and all people’s regardless of their faith or belief May Allah have mercy for the people who lost their lives.”

We must learn to tolerate more, to love each other and to promote peaceful co-existence of our wide variety of cultures, ethnicities, nationalities and religions and beliefs.

Through adversity, a day of despicable terror in Christchurch, we are becoming better people and a better nation.

We Kiwis unite for a better, more peaceful world.

100 Comments

  1. Finbaar Rustle

     /  17th March 2019

    An event like this occurs every day some where in the world.
    Most we don’t hear about and those we do are quickly forgotten.
    After each attack there is a formula response and reaction
    from politicians/organisations and the media.
    On Friday afternoon and evening NZ was in shock.
    By Saturday the extent of the tragedy became apparent
    as talking heads tried to explain the inexplicable and
    assured folk how every step would be taken to prevent future events.
    People laid flowers some sang songs.
    This may help those not involved but do nothing for those
    who died,were injured or grieving family or friends.
    Next week will see funerals and more talk and more assurances.
    Even as cremations are taking place the race for
    the moral high ground will be heating up.
    God of nations will be sung with reverence in Parliament
    sports teams will wear black arm bands and observe a minutes silence.
    Leaders will speak passionately about inclusiveness
    with special emphasis on why “our” party offers the best solutions.
    The media will churn out a myriad of articles by a phalanx of
    sages delivering words of wisdom solace and comfort.
    But after all the words spoken,songs sung wreaths laid
    candle light vigils plaques unveiled will any thing change?
    Recent history would say no.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  17th March 2019

      We are not in a war zone, so these things are not expected here.

      The flowers may not help, but the millions raised will.

      I don’t think that Muslims have cremation, their burials take place as soon as possible from what I remember. What a good idea.

  2. Jacob Murray witnessed the shooting at Al Noor mosque and helped victims leave the mosque and get to ambulances.

    After seeing the horror and the bloodshed first-hand, he has a message for New Zealand.

    “The answer to this situation… is love and seeing past skin colour and religion and ethnicity and gender that’s going to change the future.

    “Practically, this has to start a public conversation around hate and bigotry and how we disarm that in today’s society and it’s only going to come through a collective conversation, not through politicians, but on the ground.

    “Going and meeting your neighbour, learning about Islam and talking to people that go to mosques and other religions and other cultures.”

    – Newstalk ZB

    • Mother

       /  17th March 2019

      Yes, let’s talk about the hate and bigotry and dogma which many ‘Christians’ practised in the past. Is there a way to practice real Christianity. Do we know what that is? Are we willing to put away the things which hinder?

    • Mother

       /  17th March 2019

      Ahh…the good old church ladies knitting groups for clothing the poor. All the while ignoring the Saviour’s commitment to children and culture.

      The churches are either dying or growing bolshie. Who will do the knitting, and what will the product continue to cover up? Deeper hate and discord of course.

      The persecuted Christians of the world get nearly zero attention.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  17th March 2019

  3. Gezza

     /  17th March 2019

    There were comments from two people yesterday criticising Jacinda for wearing a head covering when talking to and embracing Muslims in Christchurch because it is tokenism & not appropriate for her culture. Unbelievable. She is effectively being called a race traitor & these comments are similar to what this arsehole is saying in his manifesto. This was her call to make & in the circumstances was the right one.

    • Mother

       /  17th March 2019

      Flowery love will not help the future.

      Individuals who cannot decide what to do about religion for themselves personally usually embrace fluffy love as a matter of spiritual import when catastrophe occurs.

      Meanwhile, history repeats.

      • Mother

         /  17th March 2019

        I did not call her a race traitor. Sometimes you are too emotional Gezza.

        I believe in tolerance, applied with intelligence and tough love when necessary.

        Islam is a hateful religion.

        Our country has many races. We hope to live together peacefully and respectfully as Kiwis. And safely. This will not happen through the application of feigned compassion nor condescending tripe.

        ‘Kiwi’ is not a race. It’s an ideology. By your emotive argument you might say that Jacinda is a traitor to Kiwi ideology. Is there such a thing?

        • phantom snowflake

           /  17th March 2019

          Islam is a hateful religion
          Certainly in this country the (small) amount of religious hatred expressed by Muslims is utterly eclipsed by that expressed by people who identify as Christian. I’m anticipating your “out” will be that those who express hatred are not real Christians, but that’s not your call to make.

          • Mother

             /  17th March 2019

            You also have read many of my posts.

            You know that I have experienced hatred from the churches and you know that I love Church. You know that my trust and hope is in Jesus Christ.

            You may also remember that I encourage others that a little bit of Christianity, if you choose, is enough.

            It’s not my call how it is with you. You’re right. You are a precious individual with enough intelligence of your own, just a little too snowflaky perhaps?

          • Mother

             /  17th March 2019

            And yes, the small amount of hatred expressed by Muslims in our country is used by Kiwis to lull us into complacency.

            The lovely Muslim youth who will be traumatised for life by the murders (while they peacefully* worshipped) may not be able to steer clear of violence in some form or other in the future. If they stay with Islam they will suffer immensely and may go on with radicalised thought processes.

            *peacefully? Allah is a god who condones hatred.

            The enemy of our souls is adept at ‘love’ trickery. The counterfeit of love occurs in many forms.

            • PartisanZ

               /  17th March 2019

              So long as “freedom of religion” always includes the freedom not to worship any god or to worship any god only in one’s own individual way …

              The Devil may be kept at bay.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  17th March 2019

              The lovely Muslim youth who will be traumatised for life by the murders (while they peacefully* worshipped)

              *peacefully? Allah is a god who condones hatred.

              Read that again, maybe. It could be taken as you being sarcastic about/mocking of, those who were in the mosques at the time of the shootings. Is that your intention?? I honestly can’t tell whether you are malignant or just incredibly lacking in awareness, or both.

            • Mother

               /  17th March 2019

              To clarify – not mocking and not sarcastic. Sad enough to want to help. Just like you I suppose.

              I think that the Muslims were probably praying peacefully and hopefully. (I tend to be neither suspicious nor fearful.)

              Malignant? Lacking awareness? That’s not your call is it? Do you have anything positive to offer me?

              You know my guest post testimony. In there I mention being cheeky sometimes. What else is left for a quiet abused person?

              Incidentally, did you know that God sometimes gets reduced to sarcasm? I hope I never see it for Kiwis. I believe we have an opportunity to reach the end of time intact as a safe and loving people.

            • Mother

               /  17th March 2019

              I’ve had a wee think about you wondering whether I was mocking Muslims.
              After all I have posted, plus my testimony, how could anyone suspect I am mocking?

              I think it’s highly likely that you are susceptible to mocking Muslims and you were hoping to catch me out instead.

              I understand implicitly the need for the God shaped part of my psyche to be filled up. I do not mock anyone’s religion. I love and respect the Muslim people.

              Since you pushed the issue though, I will say that the Kiwi outpouring of emotion may be a poorly veiled disguise for covering over mocking attitudes in general. Is emotional honesty part of Kiwi ideology?

              Also since you pushed the issue, Christians tend not to mock Allah but Muslims blaspheme Jesus Christ and hate Christians. If we get to the point where many Kiwi Muslims feel safe in numbers what will be the Kiwi ethos then? Are Kiwis happy with the concept of Church underground?

              This mocking issue is very serious.
              The spiritual grief which Kiwis are experiencing is a timely warning, especially for those who say they have no god.

              Children need a secular and solid classical education including the study of religion throughout history.

              Another very serious issue for Kiwis now is Muslim youth growing up with this atrocious memory. I am genuine in calling them lovely. But they’re not going to feel lovely after being mowed down by a disconnected coward with a gun are they? And Allah will certainly not help them feel lovelier. It’s a huge issue for us. Yet instead of considering these issues, you want to catch me out somehow. You want to discredit Jesus Christ.*Is that Kiwi ideology too?

              *I have a mandate to say so because I have clearly stated where my hope and trust belongs.

    • Pink David

       /  17th March 2019

      ” She is effectively being called a race traitor”

      I think the criticism is ill judged. I’d say it does have a wiff of tokenism, the head covering has other meanings for Islam. Perhaps hard to judge the line between a visible display of empathy and what is appropriate.

      But to leap to ‘race traitor’ just adds to the bullshit. This is exactly what this ‘arsehole’ wants.

      • Gezza

         /  17th March 2019

        No, the sentiments expressed by those two & now you are exactly what he wants.

        • Mother

           /  17th March 2019

          You’re wrong Gezza. You read my posts. You know that I abhor the murderers behaviour and that I am concerned about our culture, in particular that Kiwis will live safely and in harmony. You know that I advocate trust in a victorious and gentle Saviour.

          The only sentiments going skewiff here are yours. As you point out, this is exactly what the haters desire.

          You lose? Kiwi ideology includes that Kiwis know how to lose graciously.

    • Griff.

       /  17th March 2019

      Funny that .
      I used to see brethren christian woman in head scarves every day in Auckland and some times see them out here in the country. It was not that long ago when woman covered their heads in most christian churches in NZ.
      To often with cultural conservatives the culture they refer too is a figment of their imagination.

      • Gezza

         /  17th March 2019

        My mother & all other Catholic women in the parish used to have to wear a hat or scarf when attending mass or inside the church itself. I don’t remember exactly when this obligation was dispensed with – it might have been when John XXIII was Pope, or if not, when Paul VI was elected.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  17th March 2019

          I have been to mosques and always covered my head with a scarf that I brought with me. It’s a courtesy, and is akin to men wearing a yarmulke in a synagogue.

          Mother seems to be victim blaming and trying to steer the conversation away from the real events; very bad taste. At the moment, she is not a good example of Christianity, I fear.

          Mother, this is not the time or place,.

          • Mother

             /  17th March 2019

            It is exactly the time and place Kitty – while Kiwi ‘she’ll be right mate’ is shaken.

            You have no idea about victim blaming. I do.

            You don’t want to talk about the real events remember? It’s unhelpful to know the gory details. Then what do you want to talk about? The Kiwi ideology of confusion?

            The issue you mention relates to one instance of our PM spiritualising everything, when we’re a secular country! Serious issues.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th March 2019

              No, I don’t remember not wanting to talk about the real events. That’s rubbish. I see little point in dwelling on the gory details; these are people’s lives and deaths, not a film to be goggled at.

              You are sounding increasingly confused, and I am regretting ever standing up for you.

              How do you know that I know nothing about victim blaming ?

              The rest of what you’re saying is nonsense. Stop trying to divert attention from this horror and stop nitpicking.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  17th March 2019

          Do you think the PM approves of having female dress dictated by religion?

          • Gezza

             /  17th March 2019

            The question is – do YOU think you should be an arbiter or what she chooses to wear in this situation?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              That’s your question which is a straw man since I was not arbitrating. I made a suggestion as to how a good solution showing mutual respect for each other’s cultures could have been programmed. Now answer my question.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              There is no need for me to answer your question. I do not presume to tell our PM how she should dress according to MY definition of what her culture is according to MY interpretation of what her culture is in the aftermath of this human horror. YOU apparently do.

              If you want your question answered, email HER & post your email, and then post her reply.

          • Mother

             /  17th March 2019

            You’re very interested in the murderer’s manifesto aren’t you Gezza?

            “Oh be careful little eyes what you see….”

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  17th March 2019

            Alan, what we all wear is dictated by something. We can’t walk around naked, no matter how hot it is, workplaces have dress codes, schools have uniforms…Gloriavale members wear the most hideous uniform, designed to make everyone look frumpy.

            Orthodox Jews wear clothes dictated by their religion.

            Both sexes in some religions wear clothes dictated by the religion. It ‘s not just ‘female dress’.

            Mother, do stop being tiresome and judgemental.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              Do you want to answer my question?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th March 2019

              I have. Muslim men have their clothes dictated as well. They wear headcoverings in the form of those little hats. Is that all right, or is it only wrong for women ?

              This would hardly be the appropriate time to express disapproval of Muslim headcovering. Who would be so insensitive and crass ? Muslim women were murdered on Friday and some are in hospital with bullet wounds. We see widows, mothers and sisters of the dead every night. If you were the PM, would you use this as a forum to express an opinion (which is none of your business) on the way that they were dressed and go into a mosque bareheaded to make a point ? I have little time for the PM and think that she is not a good one, but she did the right thing by wearing a scarf at this time.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              I’m not sure it was in a mosque. They are probably still closed as crime scenes?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th March 2019

              You are being a nitpicker. You do realise that 50 people were murdered two days ago and she was visiting their wives, mothers, sisters, fathers, husbands, brothers……

              Is this really the time to carry on about a headscarf ?

              As you know, I think that she is a fluffette and a lightweight, and still do think so, but to get all excited about such a trivial point is bizarre !

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              Yawn.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th March 2019

              The ones where nothing happened are not closed.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              Where did she wear the scarf?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              On her head, of course. Where do you think ?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th March 2019

              It wasn’t in a mosque then.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              Oh, do show some respect and stop nitpicking.

              I suppose that if I’d said ‘in a mosque’, you’d have answered ‘It wasn’t worn on her head, then.’

              Your attitude is extremely offensive and verging on trolling, Not the time and not the place for it. You are sounding like Corky, who, thank Heaven, is not here just now.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              I spoke too soon; Corky is here.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              I’m curious as to what Gezza and Kitty’s response would have been to Simon wearing a taqiyah to meet Muslims in Christchurch. Or to his not wearing one.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              I wouldn’t care either way. I would expect him to wear a kippah to a synagogue or a taquiyah to a mosque.

              Your obsession with this is distasteful under the circumstances.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              Mind explaining what you think a taqiyah is & how on earth you think he could wear it?

              This guy’s not even Jewish. Any comment on the cultural appropriateness of this one?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              He could hardly have not worn one, but I was unimpressed by this. What a hammy performance.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              A taqiyah is the little hat that Muslim men wear.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th March 2019

              There’s nothing nitpicking about making a distinction between what should be worn in a mosque. You did it yourself. And you are nitpicker in chief here anyway.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  17th March 2019

      If you refer to the conversation I was involved in last night you are just drivelling and frothing, G. Race traitor was neither said nor implied. Get a life and stay out of the gutter.

      • Gezza

         /  17th March 2019

        Mother / March 16, 2019
        It was tokenism and condescending.

        She is not a Muslim. She is an ex Mormon.

        I think Jacinda exemplifies our lack of knowing what being Kiwi means. In that way, she’s a leader for the times. Confusing times.

        Christianity is pure compassion and uncomplicated.

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        Alan Wilkinson / March 16, 2019
        IMHO you do not show respect by pretending to discard your own principles and culture.

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        Alan Wilkinson / March 16, 2019
        The proper way to do this would be to offer her a scarf when she entered the mosque and for her to give it back when she left. But for meeting in other places it was inappropriate.

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        All right then. You are “effectively” calling her a culture traitor. And pretending that you’re not. If you have read this man;s manifesto these are the kinds to things he believes.

        • Mother

           /  17th March 2019

          You’re very interested in the murderer’s manifesto aren’t you Gezza?

          “Oh be careful little eyes what you see….”

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  17th March 2019

            Go away.

          • Gezza

             /  17th March 2019

            Yes, I am very interested in this man’s manifesto. It is a look into the mind of a mass murderer and tells you very clearly what he believes and feels and thinks and it is a dark place. It also tells you why he did what he did. And you can see he is not alone from the group of black-weaing masked white supremacist scum shown who turned up with banners to disrupt a solemn vigil for New Zealand’s innocent dead Muslims outside New Zealand House in London to simply to yell their support for him and to insult Muslims. I have no love for any of the 3 Abrahamic faiths & do not like Islam for how easily it can be interpreted to justify intolerance and hate by devout fundamentalists. But clearly religion is not the only belief system that produces such hatred, and the small community of Muslims in this country are not notorious haters and killers.

            • PDB

               /  17th March 2019

              Gezza: “Yes, I am very interested in this man’s manifesto. It is a look into the mind of a mass murderer and tells you very clearly what he believes and feels and thinks”

              No – it ‘s simply a piece of propaganda deliberately & carefully worded so as to achieve his aim of so-called ‘civil war’. The fact he praises China in one part & praises Trump in another shows he’s just playing a game with people who can then cherry-pick something from his dribble that suits their own agendas. He has mentioned specific people in order to create a response from those opposed to these people who are looking for any excuse to apportion blame for the actions of this nut & shut them down. Live-streaming his horrid act on facebook wasn’t random either.

              His ‘manifesto’ should’ve been ignored & given zero MSM coverage but too late now.

            • PDB

               /  17th March 2019

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              Yes it is those things as well. But he details what he is going to do & why & it is targeted at white nationalists everywhere exhorting them to do the same.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              The people he is targeting would have seen it and shared it widely before the msm had begun to talk about it. I haven’t seen any msm outlet publish it in full though, PDB. Have you seen some doing that?

            • PDB

               /  17th March 2019

              Haven’t seen it published in full but as I’ve mentioned above the MSM have promoted bits of it that suit the narrative they want to project. It has something for everybody – blame Trump on one side, blame communism on the other. I wouldn’t trust most of what he says in it as everything appears to be said for effect.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              I didn’t know what “shitposting” was but I read everything & just quickly skimmed through the obvious crap & skipped over the poems, looking for what he did, what he believed, & why. Trump is barely mentioned in this document. But the problem with Trump is his dog whistling to voters with white nationalist views & his refusal to acknowledge ultra nationalist hate crimes are on the rise in the US since they became emboldened by his rehetoric.

            • PDB

               /  17th March 2019

              Interestingly between 2016-Dec 2018 Muslim targeted hate crime in the USA dropped 6%. Crimes against Jewish Americans increased 37% since 2016 which led to an overall rise in reported hate crimes. African-American focused hate crime up 17% or so over the same time period.

              Also it should be noted more hate crimes are also being reported because people are now being encouraged to report them & hate crimes against Sikhs, Hindus and Arabs were not counted prior to 2015.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  17th March 2019

          I’m saying she is not being true to her principles of gender equality which are of national importance and are also important to young Muslim women immigrants to this country. And I don’t take kindly to the nasty slurs you are issuing in response.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  17th March 2019

            That’s nonsense.

            You are reading far too much into a gesture of respect. This tragedy is not the place for grandstanding about feminist PCism.

            If Simon Bridges was PM, I am sure that he would wear a yarmulkah at a synagogue.

          • Gezza

             /  17th March 2019

            At the very least – you are being an insensitive clod. You show your complete inability to see any situation from any perspective but your own. I suggest if you want to understand why she has done this (and you must be a fool if you cannot see that she is plainly NOT religious – she’s “living in sin” with the unmarried father of her child and she IS the Prime Minister of this country – not some repressed female subordinated by a husband or required to have her every move & word in public chaperoned by a male relative).

            If you can’t see how your suggesting she is behaving culturally inappropriately for what you see as her culture I would suggest that you email your views and question to her and see whether she agrees with you.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  17th March 2019

            More straw men. Nothing to do with being religious. Everything to do with not allowing sexist cultural repression of women.

            Insensitive clod yourself and inability to see any perspective but your own.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              You’re wrong. I can see your perspective. And I can see hers.

              Hers is understandable & makes perfect sense in this situation. And in fact it is admirable. And I’ve explained why perfectly intelligibly. To suggest that her wearing a headscarf to interact with & show empathy for grieving Muslim women & men (who are not wearing bloody burkas) is sending the wrong message to young Muslim women is ludicrous.

              Every woman & girl in this country KNOWS Jacinda is the model of a liberated Western woman & now they know she is a strong & compassionate woman too.

              Your attitude on this is completely culturally & emotionally monocular. I think it’s insensitive, that Tarrant would love it, & that it’s wrong. Tuff bikkies if you don’t like being called out for it.

              That’s not a slur. That’s an explanation of my view & why I hold it.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              I neither know nor care whether Tarrant believes in sexual equality. I do care about the implication a woman can only properly relate to NZ Muslims if she wears a hijab.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  17th March 2019

              G, good debate. Empathy is arguably the most powerful form of human communication. And when it is genuine it doesnt need a scarf or any form of headgear to convey it. Jacindas empathy and compassion comes across to me as selective and contrived. But hey perhaps its just my inner cynic. Cheers,c

            • Thanks c. I think it probably is your inner cynic. There’s no mistaking her hugging & consoling that Muslim woman who burst into tears is genuine & simple heartfelt, female, human compassion. She made a statement right at the outset that they are us. I think she has made the strongest statement possible that she means this by wearing a hijab @ the official commemorations & when meeting them.

              She is in every other respect, and when making her press conferences, which are carried live on Aljazeera and possibly by relay to other Muslim country tv stations, that she is Westen woman leader, displaying empathy by adopting a Muslim fashion when meeting victims & members of their community in the aftermath of this atrocity.

              She is not beyond speaking and acting in cynical ways for political reasons, & I am often not impressed with her, but I don’t think she is doing this for votes.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  17th March 2019

              In a sense as contrived as simon bridges fronting up in a dishdasha

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              Yesterday, when the criticism started, she was wearing a scarf and trousers. More clearly the scarf was symbolic of empathy.

              Contrived is Justin Trudeau swanning about India dressed in designer Bollywood outfits & embarassing the hell out of everybody but himself in India & elsewhere. This is different c.

            • Mother

               /  17th March 2019

              Of course you can see Jacinda’s perspective. Everybody can. That’s not the issue I raised.

              It is wrong that our PM spiritualises her role. If a conservative Christian behaved with confusion by using emotives to push a spiritual agenda, I would complain as loudly.

              We are a secular nation politically. Spiritualising us is a dangerous precedence. At this time of vulnerability it is negligent behaviour from Jacinda.

            • Gezza

               /  17th March 2019

              What matters here is that she and other Kiwis abhor what a twisted white ultra-nationalist came to our country and did – murdered and maimed defenceless, innocent people – to try & provoke race/cultural wars. Not that Jacinda wore a hijab to show her solidarity with the victims. It will be interesting to see what she wears when she meets the official Turkish delegation which has arrived in New Zealand.

  4. Pink David

     /  17th March 2019

    “New Zealand and the world overwhelmingly defies aims of Christchurch terrorist”

    Well, I think he is getting a lot of success he intended. When you have Chelsea Clinton being accosted and ‘blamed’ for this, and identity politics simply gets heated to another level, that is exactly what he desired.

    • Gezza

       /  17th March 2019

      Yes it is. If you havecread his manifesto, fomenting this kind of division & mutual hatred to fracture the US & ultimately cause the white population to kick out blacks & other cultures & seize control of “their own” country is an explicit objective.

      • Mother

         /  17th March 2019

        And how your argument relates to the hijab on Jacinda’s head?

        The people in the world who make mountains out of molehills cause the most division.

        You’re the first to mention the notion of seizing control. Don’t we want to discuss Kiwi ideology?

        • Gezza

           /  17th March 2019

          A prevailing aspect of the ongoing coverage of this massacre on Aljazeera tv is that New Zealand is a tolerant & peaceful country, thats its people are shocked and horrified by what has happened & condemn such hatred Nationwide, that the Police are continuing to protect mosques all round the country, that Kiwis of Christian faiths and no faiths at all are coming together to support the victims & their families & assure them this IS the Kiwi ethos.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  17th March 2019

            Nitpicking again…it was a scarf, mother, a scarf. You know what a scarf is, I hope.

            I don’t wear a hijab to a mosque, I just wind a large scarf around my head, take my shoes off and go in.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th March 2019

              As linked above, it was a hijab according to the gulfnews paper.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              It was a scarf worn in a similar style, but it was looser.

              Get over it and show some respect for the 50 murder victims.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th March 2019

              Don’t be stupid Kitty. I’ve said nothing whatever disrespectful of the victims.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  18th March 2019

              Your nitpicking over a small point seems to be more important to you than their suffering.

              I do not nitpick; that is insulting.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  18th March 2019

              If you think it is insulting then stop using it.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  19th March 2019

              You sound like Corky at the moment.

  5. Grant

     /  17th March 2019

    Nonsense. He managed to get a very important rugby match cancelled
    When did that happen last?

    • NZ Rugby announced the decision shortly after 2pm on Saturday after NZ Rugby’s chief rugby officer Nigel Cass said detailed discussions with both teams indicated an overwhelming desire to “send a message that they abhor” the violent attacks that took place at two Christchurch mosques on Friday.

      The cancellation deemed important enough to send a send a strong message.

      Principal put ahead of the money and the biggest game of the year in Dunedin.

      • Blazer

         /  17th March 2019

        who is the message to?

        Life must go on as usual.

        • Mother

           /  17th March 2019

          Cancelling a rugby game because of spiritual mourning speaks volumes.

      • Pickled Possum

         /  17th March 2019

        Strong message … of what?

        • “send a message that they abhor” the violent attacks that took place at two Christchurch mosques on Friday

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  17th March 2019

          I think the message was that the teams were too saddened and shocked by the atrocity to want to play as though it was a normal day. A simple display of human empathy.

  6. PDB

     /  17th March 2019

    Glorifying &/or normalising criminal/violent groups/individuals shouldn’t be tolerated in this or any country no matter who they are.

    In other news RNZ are currently leading their Christchurch terrorism coverage with “Live: Black Power performs Haka”.