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17 March 2019

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47 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    So remember righties and sane normal voters when our PM Jacinda Ardern removes your military style automatic rifles dont hate her,HATE a certain Australian mass murderer.

    • Conspiratoor

       /  March 17, 2019

      Here’s the thing lurch.
      Closing a loophole in a gun reg won’t stop a determined crim getting hold of a semi auto with a big mag. There are at least two gang members in court now who used them as the weapon of choice. Do you think they were obtained legally?

      • Griff.

         /  March 17, 2019

        Here is the real thing Semiautos have no use for legitimate hunting.
        Semiautos are merely toys for rambo wanna be gun nuts to wank over.
        Ban all center fire semi auto rifles. If you can not cycle a bolt you should not have a gun.
        Amnesty to hand them all in, after a year make it a jail term to posses one .
        Take semiautos out of circulation and it will become much more difcult to use one to kill humans en mass.
        Tell gun nuts to get fucked having their toys to masturbate over is not worth a single life.

        As to.

        There are at least two gang members in court now who used them as the weapon of choice. Do you think they were obtained legally?

        You think they were smuggled into NZ do you ?
        Nope they were purchased from a gun shop before they fell into the hands of scum.
        Your statement is an inane distraction from the real problem of having ten of thousands of weapons with no purpose but to kill humans in circulation.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  March 17, 2019

          Lets come back to this when the gun regs have been ‘tightened’ pal. We will see then who has a grip on reality

  2. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    Heres the real real thing, New Zealand should ban the Australian Fraser Anning from ever entering New Zealand as hes a possible future mass murdering white rightwinger and we have higher standards than the ferals in Queensland

    • Trevors_elbow

       /  March 17, 2019

      You sir are a retard.. ban this ban that…. the best antidote to extreme speech is calmly listening and then exposing its logical flaws. Forcing stuff underground generates extremism….

      • lurcher1948

         /  March 17, 2019

        EGG BOY IS AN INTERNET HERO after egging the elderly stale pale rightwing NAZI racist MP, fraser anning,invite this hero to NZ PM,

      • lurcher1948

         /  March 17, 2019

        FUCK GIVE ME STRENGH T-e you are safe as PG is having a nana nap and he never pass afternoon posts, but sir you are just a stupid racist righty…sleep on PG

        [This sort of comment is going to have the opposite effective you seem to think it might. I have enough to do and consider right now to not want to waste time dealing with this. PG]

        • lurcher1948

           /  March 17, 2019

          GET OVER IT PG, you are a centrist BLOG owner/runner and have an important role to play in NZ history AND THIS MASSACRE IS IMPORTANT, your blog will be remembered as being a broad church/mosque/synagogue,ITS YOUR BLOGS TIME IN THE SUN…just saying from a old 70 yo poster…ITS NOT FILLED WITH HATE like some nearby blogs….ps i get tired to when i hit 100000 steps on fitbit we all get tired,AROHA love PG a good blog runner keep your personal strength up a FRIEND
          PLEASE READ AND POST…its important to me…sad so sad

          • lurcher1948

             /  March 17, 2019

            THANK YOU PG,a real blog owner….not hiding in the shadows

          • Griff.

             /  March 17, 2019

            Calm down lurch.
            Have a nice cup of tea and pat your dogs for a while before you comment again.
            Many of us are over emotional over this atrocity.
            Don’t load even more shite on PG than he already has to deal with.

        • Trevors_elbow

           /  March 18, 2019

          Where did I say I supported Anning. My comment was on your ban what you dont want to hear stupidity. Drive it underground and it explodes when you least expect it.

      • duperez

         /  March 17, 2019

        I would normally agree with your comment about the best antidote to extreme speech is calmly listening and then exposing its logical flaws. I agree though that Anning should be banned. Only to respect him mind you – he doesn’t want scum (paraphrasing him) allowed to enter countries like New Zealand. He has intimated our immigration system is flawed, that we shouldn’t allow maniacs in. He would be pleased to be banned.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    The hatred continues from the kiwiblog rightwing community,most intelligent New Zealanders would say its a sign of respect to cover her hair but hey abuse is cheap
    Nukuleka
    My partner, a Muslim, says her wearing of the hijab is deeply offensive. Akin to Trudeau’s Bollywood stunts.

    Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 LOG IN TO REPLY REPORTMARCH 17, 2019 8:29AM

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 17, 2019

      If that comment’s genuine, it shows that petty minds are universal.

      It’s nothing like a Bollywood stunt. I wear a scarf (as JA did) when I go to a mosque. Hers was a scarf, not a hijab.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    Watching BBC news,the murdering rightwing nazi scum was bought into court by BIG BURLY policeman,towering over a shortarse whiteman and this little runt Australian with small man syndrome released a manifesto calling for white power,but a murdering shortarse runt isnt going to cut the mustard with breeding white females

    • lurcher1948

       /  March 17, 2019

      Must be a few shortarse rightwingers here with little short man syndrome

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 17, 2019

        Little, short something syndrome, anyway.

  5. phantom snowflake

     /  March 17, 2019

    Soon after the shooting a campaign to ‘out’ local white supremacists/neo-nazis began on twitter. An early casualty was Christchurch company Beneficial Insulation. The logo seen on the van below is known as the ‘black sun’, and is widely recognized as a neo-nazi symbol. “$14.88”: This is a reference to ‘Fourteen Words’ (a white supremacist slogan) and ‘H’, the 8th letter of the alphabet doubled, short for “Heil Hitler”.
    So; $14.88 is shorthand for: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. Heil Hitler.”

    • phantom snowflake

       /  March 17, 2019

      [Click on photo of van above to enlarge.]

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 17, 2019

        I wouldn’t have caught on to that, I must admit ($14.88 seems an odd amount and the name is peculiar)

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 17, 2019

            I know, but I didn’t know the 1488 code. The name of the company sounds very odd, for some reason, but not as if it’s white supremacists.

            1888 was when Hitler was born, of course. I remember some fool – Colin (Mansell?) on a current affairs programme in 1988. He was the leader (and members, possibly) of the NZ Nazi Party. He was still living with Mum, who had no idea until she saw that. When he came home, all his things were packed and outside.

            • Gezza

               /  March 17, 2019

              Colin King-Ansell. I remember him. I thought he had dropped off the scene.

              “Colin King-Ansell (born 1947) is a prominent figure in far-right politics in New Zealand. He has been described as “New Zealand’s most notorious Nazi cheerleader and Holocaust denier”.

              Biography
              In 1967 he joined the National Socialist Party of New Zealand. In December 1967 King-Ansell was given an 18 months prison sentence for damage to a synagogue.

              In 2006, King-Ansell became chairman of a local business association, Progress Hawera, but was expelled when his far-right past was exposed. He leads the New Zealand National Front. He declared that he has renounced Nazism.

              King-Ansell is, however, still active in so called racist and neo Nazi politics. At a rally in 2017, he, along with other accused neo-Nazis had to be escorted by police away from violent counter-protesters.”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_King-Ansell
              [Note there are some claims in this article not backed up with citations or links.]

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 17, 2019

              I was a bit out on the name, but not too far out.

              The tiniest praying mantis is on my hand; I’d better put it out before the poor thing gets lost in the house.

              (later) The silly ass wouldn’t let go; I finally had to flick it off (gently) as it hopped from finger to finger.

  6. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    We should invite this bright Australian to visit our country New Zealand, Much more mature than his age 17,he can see rubbish far quicker than Queenslanders
    Response to incident
    William Connolly immediately after the incident advised for others to not copy his actions stating “Don’t egg a politician, you’ll get tackled by 30 bogans at the same time, I learnt the hard way”.[4]

    Satirical publication The Chaser declared that “No further nominations to be accepted for Australian of the Year 2020”.[5]

    Musical groups including Violent Soho[6], Hilltop Hoods[7], The Mountain Goats[8], The Amity Affliction[9], Nicole Millar[10], Destroy All Lines[11], Jebidiah[12], Bob Evans[13], West Thebarton[14], The Living End[15][14], Cry Club[16] and others went to social media to offer William Connolly free entry to their concerts for life. Additionally Birds of Tokyo decreed “All hail egg boy!”.[17]

    He felt compelled to egg a piece of RIGHTWING NAZI SCUM who is also Australian,no surprises there

    • Gerrit

       /  March 17, 2019

      Interesting that some level of violence is OK by the LEFTWING ANTIFA SCUM movement.

      Wonder where the line on what level of violence is acceptable?

      Eggs, Mud and Dildos are ok it would seem, Bullets not so much? How long before bullets are OK?

      That was almighty good left hook that Joyce swung. The look on the boys face of utter shock and bewilderment…He,he, he hit me. What for? Priceless.

      When you bring an egg to a fist fight, you best have some back up sonny jim.

      This is not condoning Joyce’s stand or utterance.

      This is a condemnation of violence perpetrated upon a member belonging to a democratically elected parliament (senate?).

      Now he might be right wing and a scum bag but he is an democratically elected representative of the people and as such due respect for that.

      Anarchy would prevail if we condone any level of violence, provided if it suited our political leanings.

      I would have thought that Friday violent events would have been enough to prove that much and as such, no level of violence should not be tolerated.

      As an aside, that egg would have fed a homeless person for at least one meal.

      • Blazer

         /  March 17, 2019

        are you referring to Barnaby Joyce..?

        ‘Eggs, Mud and Dildos are ok it would seem, Bullets not so much?-this speaks volumes about your attitude.Shameful.

        • Gerrit

           /  March 17, 2019

          Read what I wrote again and reconsider your reply…squirrel chaser.

          No shame here to ask Lurcher; if an egg is OK to use in an assault, when will it be OK to use bullets?

          The question is rhetorical. Sometimes these questions are asked to punch up a point. If the answer is glaringly obvious, it will make that answer stand out.

          I notice you overlook the following point;

          “Wonder where the line is on what level of violence is acceptable?”

          Egg, Mud, Dildo OK? Bullet Not OK?

          For accepting egg, mud and and dildo as assault weapons, how long before we escalate to bullets?

          • Blazer

             /  March 17, 2019

            The accuracy of your posts is a reflection on just how over rated senior managers are I guess.

            Senator Anning is NOT Joyce!🤦‍♂️

    • I’ve been critical of using that name in the past. I think it’s quite inappropriate.

      • Gezza

         /  March 17, 2019

        The history of the real crusaders is not a proud one.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 17, 2019

          The word crusaders is not confined to the Crusaders, of course. But it would be a good gesture to change it.

          • The problem for the Christchurch based Crusaders is that they have promoted themselves based on violent Christian Crusader themes.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 17, 2019

              It would be a bit obvious to change it now, it’s not the time to attract attention to it, but in a few weeks they might change it without making too much of it.

              How about the First Footers ?

              Punters ?

  7. Blazer

     /  March 17, 2019

    buyer beware…endorsement by ex butcher,rugby,league player…

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12213051

  8. Blazer

     /  March 17, 2019

    supply and ..demand…the ‘market’..

    ‘”Air New Zealand has capped one-way domestic fares for flights directly to and from Christchurch at $139 to assist customers needing to travel there to support those affected by the shooting tragedy.”

    Air NZ had copped criticism for the prices of flights available to Christchurch following Friday’s terror attack at two mosques.

    An appalled customer took to Twitter on Saturday to express his horror at the prices of flights between Auckland and Christchurch.

    At the time a return trip would have cost between $747 to $787.

    Finance Minister Grant Robertson also rebuked the airline.

    Robertson had contacted Air NZ to “make his views clear” about this being a time when the airline should offer “compassionate fares”.-NZH.

    • NOEL

       /  March 17, 2019

      Maybe they were trying to recover the cost of future AirSec fees.
      This was the reason turbo prop aircraft were grounded in Christchurch.
      .

  9. Finbaar Rustle

     /  March 17, 2019

    It will be interesting to see how Tarrant now presents himself.
    His obsession has been achieved so there will be a huge void to fill.
    If he is true to his principles he will remain totally committed to his cause.
    It will be disgusting if he now says he is sorry and will commit
    the rest of his life to world peace.
    I really hope he never gets access to any facilities
    like books + paper least of all a computer.
    The Norwegian mass murderer demanded and got all sorts of privileges.
    A man who killed so many innocent people in cold blood
    deserves no more than a Changi prison style cock roach ridden tiny dark cell
    with the concrete floor as a bed.
    But no doubt he is set to live out his life in total comfort
    and total safety something our country can not give us.
    He is certain to become a celebrity among those with similar views
    he will receive letters from admiring women who will compete
    to have his children.
    His Lawyer no doubt will paint this evil #*^ as misunderstood
    and at heart a gentle kind compassionate loving individual
    who only wanted to protect the most venerated Australian way of life.
    The worst will be when his sister says that despite what he has done
    “he will always be the sweet brother I will always love”.
    Aaaaarrrrhhhhhh.

    • PartisanZ

       /  March 17, 2019

      So hard to write about him without giving him and the race haters oxygen, isn’t it Finbaar?

      3. If he is true to his principles he will remain totally committed to his cause.

      8. The Norwegian mass murderer demanded and got all sorts of privileges.

      12-16. But no doubt he is set to live out his life in total comfort and total safety something our country can not give us. He is certain to become a celebrity among those with similar views
      he will receive letters from admiring women who will compete to have his children.

      18. … at heart a gentle kind compassionate loving individual who only wanted to protect the most venerated Australian way of life.

      20. … the sweet brother I will always love.

      You do have the choice NOT to write about him … as do I …

      I’m exercising such a choice now and closing the YourNZ chapter of my life forever.

      215 new words coined isn’t bad I reckon … and a few new ‘terms’ as well …

      There are important people to share life with and take care of … one in particular … and lawns to mow.

      I just don’t need to utterly distrust a complete stranger’s comments, avatar or no avatar.

      Sayonara … mihi koe me te katoa … Thank you one and all.

      • Mother

         /  March 17, 2019

        Dear PartisanZ,
        The image I have of you in my mind is of a gentleman. You’re a good sort I think, and a protector.

        I had left YourNZ too. Is there really something so safe as free speech? In your own home it’s possible of course.

        I’m following your example. I came back briefly because of people’s grief. I’ll be off again but I might seek a chat with Kitty on Christmas day.

        Parti, I perceived your kindness several times. Thank you.

        Kia ora.

        Using pseudonyms is child’s play isn’t it?

      • Griff.

         /  March 17, 2019

        PZ
        If you come back you will always be welcome.
        Stay strong…..

  10. Finbaar Rustle

     /  March 17, 2019

    Your emotions are understandable Parti.
    This event is beyond right or left or any rational political point of view.
    Even the most committed loyalist on this site does not
    even dream about madness of this kind.
    This is a selfish man so obsessed that he is beyond
    any meaningful political stand point.
    Take time out mate and come back refreshed
    ready to discuss issues when you are ready.
    nga mihi nui
    na FB

  11. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2019

    PROUD TO BE A NORMAL GREAVING NEW ZEALANDER