Media watch – Tuesday

19 March 2019

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  1. Zedd

     /  March 19, 2019

    Listening to ZB last night.. it sounds like the Racist/White Supremacists/Muslim-haters ‘Bandwagon’ is losing momentum/running out of HOT AIR !

    Mr Russell was cutting off, the few who were trying to ‘blow this trumpet’.. Good Onya Bruce !
    He said that whilst he does not support Jacinda’s ‘politics’ he gave her, a BIG UP-TICK for the way she is handing this matter 🙂

  2. Zedd

     /  March 19, 2019

    I heard a comment on ‘Breakfast show’ TV1, that there is talk of calling on all NZ women, who want to ‘give support’ for the Muslim Community.. to wear a ‘hijab’/head scarf & stand with the muslim women who are still being intimidated by piss-weak COWARDS.

    Many women wear scarves (even Queen Lizzie).. it is not just ‘a muslim thing’ or demand, it is a sign of modesty 🙂

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 19, 2019

      You’d love Saudi Arabia and Iran then, Zedd. Women are so modest there.

      • Zedd

         /  March 19, 2019

        SO.. whats your choice Alan ?
        remembering my pledge NOT to use ‘Godwins’ :/

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 19, 2019

          My choice is to allow and protect freedom of choice to all. That includes allowing Muslims to dress as they wish and protecting them from having to dress as someone else wishes.

          My preference is that religious fanaticism is discouraged, exposed and dies out.

      • Zedd

         /  March 19, 2019

        btw: what has that got to do with the price of MSSA weapons ?

      • Zedd

         /  March 19, 2019

        OR maybe you can hitch a ride, with Dr WHO back to 1930s Germany !?

    • MaureenW

       /  March 19, 2019

      Stupid virtue signalling, pointless and cringe-worthy. Playing dress-ups? It’ll probably catch on.

      • Zedd

         /  March 19, 2019

        meanwhile some in the ‘Alt-right’ are playing dressup as KKK/Neo-Nazis & wearing MAWA caps.. lets be a bit more Rational shall we ?

        • MaureenW

           /  March 19, 2019

          They’re stupid too Z.

          • Zedd

             /  March 19, 2019

            Its called ‘being in Solidarity’ NOT ‘playing Dress up’.. perhaps this is totally beyond your understanding ??

            • MaureenW

               /  March 19, 2019

              Being in solidarity has nothing to do with dressing up in non-customary dress. If so, prime minister Trudeau would be hailed as a star, rather than the clown he is, prancing around the world in others national costumes.

            • Zedd

               /  March 19, 2019

              ho hum… 😦

              Tell Queen Lizzie.. she often wears one. My Mum (RIP) used to in 1960s UK, it was a ‘fashion statement’ back then.. not some ‘forced sign of oppression’.

              MrT & Co. does not have all the answers you need !?

            • MaureenW

               /  March 19, 2019

              Could you post a pic of her in someone else’s National dress – I thought she had more class

            • Zedd

               /  March 19, 2019

              FYI; there are pics on the web, of USA Presidents, visiting with the RCC Pope.. check out how the 1st ladies are dressed.
              The headscarf is NOT just a Muslim thing; RCC nuns (its called a religious observance)

              btw: I used to work with an Iranian lady, who told me that, Hijab (or Burque) is not mandatory for ALL women, (as many on the Alt-right are often yelling out).. but ‘expected’ for married women outdoors.

              It is often local tradition, NOT Islam that these practices, are being demanded by. Maybe some folks need to take the blinkers off or pull their heads out….. before talking this B-S

            • Zedd

               /  March 19, 2019

              ‘Could you post a pic of her in someone else’s National dress – I thought she had more class’ sez MW

              I dont know how to ‘post pix’ (not tech-savvy) BUT maybe you should check out the Queen & her offspring wearing Maori cloaks (korowai ?) etc. in RESPECT of tradition, when visiting Aotearoa

            • MaureenW

               /  March 19, 2019

              I think you’ll find the queen does not pack a cloak when visiting New Zealand – the cloaks are offered and placed upon them at this end.

            • MaureenW

               /  March 19, 2019

              .. it’s more of a welcome gesture, rather than “what’ll I wear in NZ to make the Maori’s think I’m “with them”.

          • Blazer

             /  March 19, 2019

            you should know world leaders often don national costumes of host countries when they ..meet.

    • David

       /  March 19, 2019

      Great idea, lets wear something imposed on us by a brutally patriarchal religion that has seen our Muslim sisters being publicly flogged when not wearing them. Why not get you genitals mutilated to really show support.
      How about just being supportive, donate or volunteer or go out of your way to be kind to someone different than yourself rather than trying to garner likes on Instagram.

      • Zedd

         /  March 19, 2019

        ‘Great idea, lets wear something imposed on us by a brutally patriarchal religion that has seen our Muslim sisters being publicly flogged when not wearing them.’

        Oh Really & you read this on which Alt-Right website ?
        …you cant really polish up a turd OR improve it smell

        • PDB

           /  March 19, 2019

          That well known “alt-right website” the BBC…

          “The reaction from the government has been severe. Since December 2017, more than 35 female protesters have been arrested in the capital Tehran alone. The police have warned that women who participate in demonstrations against the hijab could face up to 10 years in prison.”

          “Niloofar (not her real name) was arrested for demonstrating against the mandatory hijab. She says she was held in solitary confinement and subjected to torture and beatings.”

          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44040236

        • David

           /  March 19, 2019

          The (alt right) Guardian.

          But if you think its appropriate to cover women from head to toe because you are insecure or you know how perverted your fellow brothers are that says much about you Zedd and your oppression of women and condoning their treatment as second class citizens that you welcome the patriarchy deeming what women should wear in Aotearoa in 2019. Shame on you.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/24/iran-arrested-more-than-7000-dissidents-last-year-says-amnesty

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 19, 2019

            Jewish women also cover their heads and dress modestly.

      • Blazer

         /  March 19, 2019

        you talking about the oil kingdom of Saudi Arabia whose security is guaranteed by the …’land of the free’.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 19, 2019

          It seems that some people still don’t know that Islam is not one size fits all any more than Christianity is. They haven’t noticed that not all Musilm cover are completely covered up and that many have careers. The obsession with what some women wear on their heads is bizarre. There are models who wear the scarf. There’s a famous ballet dancer who does.

          It never seems to occur to these people that women have minds of their own.

          Why don’t they get all excited about Jewish, Brethren and other women who dress modestly and cover their hair ?

  3. Zedd

     /  March 19, 2019

    Listening to ‘Democracy Now !’ (indep. USA news) MrT was echoing words from the NZ shooters manifesto; about an ‘immigrant Invasion’

    He is reportedly calling for a FOX news reporter to be reinstated, who was stood down her for attacks on a Muslim (Democrat) congresswoman..

  4. Zedd

     /  March 19, 2019

    also on Dem-Now: MrTs crony (Pompeo) has announced that Intl Criminal court investigators, will be denied entry visas, to investigate MANY, alleged WAR crimes by USA military in Afghanistan/Iraq

  5. Gerrit

     /  March 19, 2019

    Listened to misinformation being peddled on the magic talk back show. Principally they had Philip Alpers on expounding the myth that since the Port Arthur shooting, all semi auto guns were collected and destroyed in Australia and since than none (semi auto militairy style rifles) has been able to be bought there by the public.

    I have friend in Sydney who has a couple of semi auto rifles military style and wondered, how come he can own and shoot them .

    Well you can buy semi auto military rifles in Australia as per link.

    https://www.gunemporium.com.au/product/heckler-koch-mr223-16-5/

    You can buy semi auto in 223, 5.56 right up to 308.

    I don’t know what the licensing requirements (except that his gun cabinet is very very secure) to own firearms are in Australia but to say that semi auto rifles are not permissible in Australia is a clear myth.

    • NOEL

       /  March 19, 2019

      • NOEL

         /  March 19, 2019

        After Port Arthur the Aussies severely restricted the owner ship of semi automatic rifles.
        Here we classified the then available rifles available under MSSA Catergory E.

        Then the gun lobby, owners and sellers took to the courts. That resulted in the importation of rifles with the same potential as MSSA rifles. With hole through stock grip combinations and eventually thinly disguised “not a pistol grip” they were manipulated to a Category A classification..

        As a result the police for sometime have wanted a new MSSA classification and the gun lobby has resisted.

        The reason the pistol grip was added to military rifles was to enable quick re aiming and reduce recoil when multiple shots are required. The other advantage was the siting of the selector switch and magazine release close to the trigger hand. .

        The irony is there are rifles with no pistol grips that are semi automatic that allow faster renewed aim because there is no bolt to be operated and are ideal for the personal hunter.

        Like I said the Gun lobby(owners, users, sellers) has been tunnel focused and if all semi autos are restricted serves you right.
        .

        • Griff.

           /  March 19, 2019

          The AR15 platform is based on a receiver designed to be modified with interchangeable parts from barrels to magazines.
          The parts to make it into a MSSA are easily purchased and do not need even a license to buy .
          A loop hole that should never have existed .

          • NOEL

             /  March 19, 2019

            A loop hole that should never have existed.
            And we know who was responsible.

  6. High Flying Duck

     /  March 19, 2019

    Meanwhile on planet Shane Jones, the show just rolls on:

    • N

       /  March 19, 2019

      I think she should review the terms of the loan. It was to Westland milk not potential purchasers. If she done a simply search she would have seen that it was to be paid back before change of ownership.

    • NOEL

       /  March 19, 2019

      She got extra coverage.
      https://www.ruralnewsgroup.co.nz/dairy-news/dairy-general-news/shock-on-social-media-at-westland-sale
      When the loan was secured, company met the critera, it was on the basis that the loan would be paid back before any ownership change.
      Farmers get higher pay out, 100 workers keep their jobs and the taxpayer got its money back.
      I suppose some would consider that awkward!

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 19, 2019

        Not sure what you were reading there Noel. The company didn’t meet the criteria, the loan was noted as a bad idea by Treasury who said they would be seen to be a lender of last resort. Westland was in negotiations for the sale before the loan was agreed, and now the loan has been called off due to the sale.

        And the payout comment was both a complete non-sequitur, was nothing to do with the loan, and bizarrely claimed the Westland payout would be a “drawcard for farmers” because it “matched” Fonterra instead of the usual lower payment.

        From the articles:
        “Late last year, Westland Milk secured a $9.9 million loan from the Government to help build a new plant in Hokitika as part of the Government’s Provincial Growth Fund. Some farmers and politicians considered the loan to be using taxpayers as a bank.

        It was revealed this month that the Treasury argued against the Government loan. One reason being that the dairy co-op was having problems obtaining a loan from its bank on acceptable terms and the Government would then be acting as a lender of last resort.”

        Now:

        ““The proposed sale means that a loan from the Provincial Growth Fund will not go ahead at this stage. If the sale is ultimately confirmed by shareholders then the loan will no longer be required by the company,” said head of the Provincial Development Unit Robert Pigou.”

        • NOEL

           /  March 19, 2019

          If the sale is ultimately confirmed by shareholders then the loan will no longer be required by the company,

          There yah go Duck Tax payer money secured and jobs stay in Westland.
          Awkward eh.

        • Blazer

           /  March 19, 2019

          any Treasury advice adhered to when Joyce arranged a Govt loan for 3 media network.?

  7. David

     /  March 19, 2019

    Stuff are hitting it out of the park with their opinion pieces

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111385688/jacinda-ardern-just-proved-typically-feminine-behaviour-is-powerful

    This dimwitted loon indoctrinated no doubt with a BA in womens studies makes the ridiculous comparison between Bush after 9/11 and Ardern with the former saying he was going to find out who did it and go after them as opposed to Arderns more gentle message. Well dim wit may not have heard that the gunmen has been caught and is in custody awaiting trial and perhaps if he wasnt Ardern may have said she was going to find out who did it and make sure they were brought to justice with a steely expression.
    She then goes on to imagine anyone serious has criticized Arderns performance thus far, just because in your own head you expect men to come along and blast her in a way you imagine wouldnt happen to a male leader doesnt make it true.
    An opinion piece full of creating division where there is none is fine if you are the media but men should just shut up.

  8. Duker

     /  March 19, 2019

    Childrens School Climate Strike

  9. phantom snowflake

     /  March 19, 2019

    Little’s Whitewash

    “One of the obvious questions which immediately arose after Friday’s act of terrorism was why our extremely well-budgeted spy agencies didn’t stop it from happening. The fact that it happened, and 50 people were killed, represents a huge failure on the part of the SIS, and one the public deserves answers about. Yesterday, in her post-cabinet press conference, the Prime Minister suggested that we would get those answers, promising an inquiry into the question. But her Intelligence Minister Andrew Little has just pre-judged the outcome:

    The Minister in charge of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies, Andrew Little, says an inquiry into the events surrounding the Christchurch terror attack will show those agencies did their jobs.

    […]

    Speaking to Q&A on Monday night, Little welcomed the news of the inquiry and said it would show the intelligence agencies did their jobs.

    “… these agencies have done the correct things and done nothing other than fulfil their mandate in terms of security and intelligence.”

    He rejected any comments there was too much attention given to surveying potential Islamic extremism over other kinds of extremism.

    So I guess we’ll be getting a whitewash then, an exercise in arse-covering designed to protect the reputation of the spies, while doing nothing to address the question of who they target. Just like the Operation Burnham inquiry. Except of course they’ll probably try and grab even more intrusive powers along the way.

    We spend $80 million a year on the SIS, an amount which has nearly quadrupled in the last 15 years. What do we get for it? 50 dead bodies. They need to be held accountable for that, and we need to know where they went wrong, so we can be sure it will never happen again.”
    https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2019/03/littles-whitewash.html

    • High Flying Duck

       /  March 19, 2019

      He only left Australia in 2017, and was overseas for much of the time since then. He wasn’t picked up by Australian intelligence or any of the 5-eyes partners for anything he did.

      Little is being his usual blundering self by stupidly pre-determining the enquiry outcome, but the fact the shootings happened, horrific as they were, does not automatically make the NZ intelligence services incompetent.

      • Blazer

         /  March 19, 2019

        ‘does not automatically make the NZ intelligence services incompetent’…maybe not ..but doesn’t inspire any confidence in their competence..either.

        As we know the GCSB was not au fait with Nz law on other occassions.

        John Spy doubled the budgets ,has enabled spooks to stick their heads into all the…wrong places.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 19, 2019

      Silly stuff, snowflake. They probably did do their job within the legal and resource constraints they had. A lone wolf very internet savvy that no-one else suspected is a very difficult catch. The review will look at all aspects to see if any opportunities were missed and what might have deterred or hindered him even if he couldn’t be detected.

      • Griff.

         /  March 19, 2019

        He was not a “lone wolf “.
        He was surrounded and encouraged by many who share his views .
        He just took it that little bit further.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 19, 2019

          That’s speculation and even if true it was only on the dark net where the participants are not identifiable.

          • phantom snowflake

             /  March 19, 2019

            That’s also speculation!

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 19, 2019

              Based on the evidence to date. I’m simple like that.

      • phantom snowflake

         /  March 19, 2019

        “Silly stuff” is a bit too mild if you’re referring to Andrew Little’s apparent predetermining of the outcome of the inquiry! Still it’s refreshing that you have such confidence in the (Labour-led) Government’s inquiry; I must say I’m enjoying the role reversal of you as the naive and callow youth, and myself as the battle-weary timeworn cynic…

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 19, 2019

          No, you remain the same fantasist as always, snowflake.

  10. PDB

     /  March 19, 2019

    Not sure if this has been posted before on here but add Chris Trotter to those that are to blame for the killing of 50 New Zealanders by an obviously mentally unstable, lone-wolf Australian;

    What a complete tosser TRP is.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  March 19, 2019

      Should we still have the Union Jack on our flag? Is retaining the Union Jack a link to white supremacy?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 19, 2019

        Gezza prefers it to the fern. God knows why.

        • Gezza

           /  March 19, 2019

          We already have Air All Blacks and All Blacks everything else. 3 versions of the same design and one token sort of Maori design. Total waste of 27 Million on a vanity project that was a dead duck. Get over it Al.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 19, 2019

            Just amuses me that you can be so stupid, G.

            • Gezza

               /  March 19, 2019

              Still haven’t got over it eh?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 19, 2019

              No, still chuckling.

            • Gezza

               /  March 19, 2019

              The “No” answers my question.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 19, 2019

              Classic example of the Left cutting off their noses to spite their faces. Hilarious.

            • Gezza

               /  March 19, 2019

              Maybe, that’s up to them. I just hated that design & didn’t want to be stuck with an ABs advertising logo for the next 100+ years.

              So now we’re stuck with an out of date one until someone figures out when and how to do it again in a way that will work. Flag changes seem to often be tricky beasts to manage.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 19, 2019

              You and I won’t be around for a hundred years but you will be stuck with a colonial relic for the rest of your life and deservedly so.

            • Gezza

               /  March 19, 2019

              No I’ve just got the same old flag we could’ve changed if Key hadn’t mucked up the opportunity to change it to something decent. Went about it totally the wrong way. Ces’t la vie. I can live with the situation, it’s history.

              You’re the one feeling stuck with a colonial relic & all pissed off that you didn’t get the flag you wanted because lefties thwarted you. So you bring it up over and over again and pretend you’re laughing about it.

  11. Griff.

     /  March 19, 2019

    Nazi-themed company owner charged with possessing objectionable material
    The owner of a Christchurch insulation company that promotes Nazi themes has been charged with distributing objectionable material.

    Stuff understands the Avonside home of company owner Phil Arps was raided by police on Tuesday.

    When asked to confirm this, a police spokesman said police executed a search warrant at an Avonside address at 11am.

    “A 44-year-old man was charged with distributing objectionable material. He is scheduled to appear at Christchurch District Court tomorrow.”

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111410111/nazithemed-company-owner-charged-with-possessing-objectionable-material

  12. sorethumb

     /  March 19, 2019

    Media Silence Surrounds Muslim Massacre of Christians

    As Breitbart News alone reported among major news outlets, Fulani jihadists racked up a death toll of over 120 Christians over the past three weeks in central Nigeria, employing machetes and gunfire to slaughter men, women, and children, burning down over 140 houses, destroying property, and spreading terror.

    The New York Times did not place this story on the front page; in fact, they did not cover it at all. Apparently, when assessing “all the news that’s fit to print,” the massacre of African Christians did not measure up. The same can be said for the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, the Detroit Free Press, the LA Times, and every other major paper in the United States.

    The news shows from the three major television channels did not mention the story, and nor did CNN or MSNBC.

    There are several possible explanations for this remarkable silence, and none of them is good.

    Since, in point of fact, Muslim radicals kill Christians around the world with alarming frequency, it is probable that one more slaughter did not seem particularly newsworthy to the decision-makers at major news outlets. Muslims being killed, on the other hand, may strike many as newsworthy precisely because it is so rare.

    A second motive for the media silence around the massacre of Christians in Nigeria may be geo-political and racial. New Zealand is a first-world country where such things are not supposed to happen, whereas many people still consider Africa to be a backwards place where brutal killings are par for the course.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/03/17/media-silence-surrounds-muslim-massacre-of-christians/

    • Corky

       /  March 19, 2019

      Tried to cover that and got moderated, Thumbs. What’s your secret?

    • Reports range from 9 to 280 deaths there, in an area where there have been killings for all of this century – it’s like a war zone, and it’s comon that not all battles get widespread coverage.

      https://www.voanews.com/a/armed-men-kill-9-including-children-in-north-nigeria-/4834328.html

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaduna#Religious_strife

      I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

      • sorethumb

         /  March 19, 2019

        JOS, Nigeria (BP) — Christian deaths are spiraling in Nigeria as militant Fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram terrorists escalate their attacks, according to reports from religious liberty watchdog groups active there.
        As many as 280 people were killed in Christian communities in several attacks spanning February through mid-March in Nigeria’s Middle Belt, according to varying reports from Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW), Morning Star News and International Christian Concern (ICC). Militants destroyed hundreds of homes and displaced residents.

        In the latest attack, Fulani militants killed 10 Christians overnight March 16 in Kaduna state, Morning Star News reported today (March 18). The deaths follow the killing of 40 Christians in at least two attacks in Kaduna Feb. 10-26.

        Meanwhile, a regional Nigerian court ruled that the national government failed to protect victims when militant Fulani killed 500 people, most of them Christian civilians, in several Middle Belt attacks in Benue State in 2016. The Court of Justice of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) on Feb. 26 sided with Christian plaintiffs and ordered the government to investigate the 2016 killings, saying the government shirked “its obligation to protect the human rights of the Agatu Community and prevent its violation.”
        http://bpnews.net/52593/280-christians-killed-in-attacks-in-nigeria

        I’m not sure which sources are trust worthy however.

        • There generally seems little interest in news from the whole of Africa here.

          • Gezza

             /  March 19, 2019

            Al Jazeera covers all these massacres by Muslim terrorist groups, and by anybody as far as I can. They also cover China’s persecution of Muslims & are running a documentary at the moment showing how radical Bhuddist monks have colluded with the Military over the Rohingya massacres.

            I’ve posted a few of their reports of islamic terrorist or sectarian attacks in World View but they haven’t attracted any interest or only scored downticks so I stopped bothering. Many don’t seem to get any coverage by our Press or it they do it’s a small article.

  13. Kitty Catkin

     /  March 19, 2019

    Seen on a promo for a comedy (?) on 3; someone being stupid (a man), two people being thumped hard in the gut and genitals (men)

    It’s hard to imagine this being acceptable if it was women. Just as it’s acceptable to mock a man making a hash of booking a flight while the young woman next to him does it in a few seconds and walks away, smug smirk still in place. I can’t imagine the ad being made with the woman being made to look silly while a smirking man gets it right.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 19, 2019

      Yep, it’s amazing what the Left find PC, Kitty. Certainly the advertisers aren’t bothering to appeal to men.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 20, 2019

        They don’t appeal to a lot of women, either.

        The plane ad was sexist enough without the new voice-over that spells it out. Yes, the man wasn’t coerced into doing it…but nor are women coerced into doing undies ads and so on.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 20, 2019

        The one that really annoyed me was for a dunny cleaner. As I remember it, a young man was playing with some children, lifting them up and having a good time with them. Mum picks up a bottle of Boggo, holds it up, says with her hand on the side of her mouth that he’s like Boggo; strong, and very thick.

        Imagine a man saying that a girl was like some product; sweet and very thick.