Right of reply

Posted as a right of reply from ‘Mother’.


https://www.gotquestions.org/who-is-Allah.html

I avoided providing links to support my statements on your site because it didn’t seem appropriate.

I’m sending you this because
– I care about you, and
– I am annoyed with you.

Got Questions is a site which has helped me but I’m cautious to point people to it because it is strong on Calvanism which possesses an inherent harshness.

I think that the world is moving on from Calvanistic absolutism. However, as usual the Church is slow to keep up.

I think that God is wanting to receive our love. Up until now (since Jesus’ time on earth) followers of Christ have focussed on receiving God’s love. I think He is prompting us  – Do you love me? I long for your love. You have no idea how much I desire your love.

It seems to me that God has a personality too, and His is yearning for love. Our love will complete Him. He’s lonely!

I think that the equality which humanity seeks is in God’s heart too. He doesn’t want to come back until we have made ourselves ready for Him. Christians who hold on to ‘women knowing their place’ are one of the things which hinder His work. Of course there’s a lot more (world issues, esp regarding Israel) and complicated things which I am not confident to understand.

I think that God is as much female as male, but the maleness ascribed to Him by scripture has never bothered me. I’ve read scripture since I was 12 and I always understood that I was equal under Christ. I just never could get out from under the human failings of my clan and church leaders, until now. Some things take time in human reckoning. God sees and protects, and blesses.

I don’t think you could ever know how much you helped me by your willingness to take my emotional turmoil seriously. I know I’ve said thank you. I offer my gratitude again.

In the light of the terrible atrocities occurring everywhere I know my difficulties seem slight. But I think that it is unresolved difficulties like mine which eventually lead to extremities such as abuse of children and murder. My exposing evil in my community has been very hard on our children, but my family recognise that it needed to be done, to break the vicious cycle of cowardice and psychological abuse in our family lines.

My difficulties are not over. Slander can never be removed once leaders in an area decide to attack. This is where I will hold my ground and continue to choose to speak the truth in love, to honour Jesus.

Truth is a very complicated business now days. Nothing is absolute anymore. I think that God is using this fact to raise up those who will satisfy His own great desire for love.

Jesus said that the first will be last and the last will be first. I can’t help wondering if He has a special role for NZ in the end times. Kiwis are special, as we all know!

I wouldn’t mind calling God ‘Allah’ if it blessed my Muslim fellow Kiwis. But eventually, in my experience of following Christ, it always ends up the same way – I easily tolerate others talking about their religion (or lack of) but they cannot continue to reciprocate in friendship. They struggle to hear that Jesus is my Saviour. There’s something about free grace which really riles people up. This happened many times lately, even in the churches. (Previously, for decades, I was very quiet.) People get offended by the name of Jesus and by hearing of my hope in Him.

I need Jesus because I am a wretched sinner.

Kiwis are gravely threatened by communism. Communists hate free people. They have no qualms about two faced ness and using free people to their own advantage. They are sneaky and causing division amongst Kiwis. I think this is a bigger threat than we are willing to acknowledge. Meanwhile, our political systems are quietly becoming more corrupt and politics are getting jumbled up with religious confusion.

The churches presently have no antidote to offer. They are becoming part of the political confusion with counterfeits love, joy and peace. In the end, worldwide, there will be a joining of all religions into the one called Humanity. Evangelicals of every religion will be at the centre of this. Charm will be the trick, as it always has been.

Amidst your false accusations you censored my inane comments. You accused me of not coping with other viewpoints which may be ‘slightly different’ to mine, while knocking out (from memory) this –

‘Does it come down to who we choose to follow? Islam’s prophet, or Christianity’s prophet?’

You accused me of waging a them and us war while you yourself suggested that the ‘differences’ are slight. Your behaviour is unfair considering that you are hosting sympathy for the religion of Muslims. If you are comfortable about slight differences, then why censor my comments?

You have been vocal about hosts from other sites being unwilling to receive criticism. It seems that you are now a religious person. With due respect, I suggest you have chosen to be either a Muslim or a Humanist.

I hope you will continue to show your usual integrity by posting this email for YourNZ to see. If you ever desired my input again, I would need an apology for the false accusations. My pseudonym may be ‘mother’ but I’m no fool, except for Christ. He will sort out your indiscretions because your false accusations against me were against Him, and as you know for yourself (through your recent experiences amongst loving sensible Kiwi Muslims) – Allah is great! He will not be mocked.

The people top of mind for me during our national time of grieving are our Maori and all others who feel maligned by society. I am naturally a trusting person, not cynical, but there are warning signs within how our nation has pulled together at this time. There is evil brewing. As usual it is difficult to tell how the majority really feel. Media has it stitched up. When the hype settles, we each have some serious thinking to do. If only social media was a polite place.

Kind regards

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  1. I have posted this as a right of reply and won’t comment on most of it, but I will refer to this: “I suggest you have chosen to be either a Muslim or a Humanist.”

    I have not chosen to be either. I’m certainly not a Muslim, that’s a preposterous suggestion. I really have no idea about what a Humanist is, but I’m not one because I don’t label myself as anything. There are reasonable ideas in most religious belief systems, but I don’t believe in the basic premise of any of them, an all powerful god.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  March 24, 2019

      Mother may be on the money. This obsession by much of the world’s population in a greater being may not turn out to be as far fetched as we think

      With rapid increases in computing power over the last 40 years the ‘universe as a simulation’ theory is beginning to get some traction and physicists are giving serious thought to the ways this hypothesis may be tested

      I know it sounds a little out there but have a read…

      https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/is-universe-just-simulation.htm

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 24, 2019

        Like God assuming a simulation doesn’t answer any questions, it merely raises more.

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  March 24, 2019

          In one sense it does Al, in another it makes it a little less implausible to the rational mind

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 24, 2019

            Science is the business of discovering how and ignoring why.

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            • Blazer

               /  March 24, 2019

              and giving scientists something to do…until they discover the $$$ in flipping…property.

            • Fight4NZ

               /  March 24, 2019

              And providing the technology to run this blog so that we can all enjoy your pearls of nonsense

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 24, 2019

              … and ignoring silly little political Lefty nasties.

      • But would that make it a ‘being’, or something else?

        In philosophy, being means the existence of a thing. Anything that exists has being.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being

        But that’s philosophy. According to that Earth is a being, the Milky way is a being, an amoeba is a being.

        What about science?

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      • Corky

         /  March 24, 2019

        It’s not ‘out there’ Conspiratoor. The concept is a basic belief in Hinduism.

        ”Maya, (Sanskrit: “magic” or “illusion”) a fundamental concept in Hindu philosophy, notably in the Advaita (Nondualist) school of Vedanta. Maya originally denoted the magic power with which a god can make human beings believe in what turns out to be an illusion.”

        Gezza, being an astral traveller, can fill you in on this strange fact that science is beginning to explore. Even films have broached the subject. ( The Matrix).

        Anyway, substitute the word imagination for astral, and in that world you can run any simulation you like..change anything to anything you desire. Yet one simulation refuses to budge..the world we know and all in it.

        Very strange.. a simulation defying the rules of the astral world.

        Talking of Gezza, has he given up the physical plane for good and entered a simulation of his own making?

        Heaven forbid.

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    • KiwiDave

       /  March 24, 2019

      Sorry Pete – I think posting Mother’s “right of reply” is a mistake.
      As far as I am concerned, her “reply” is nothing less than religious propaganda. My atheist being continues to feel sorry for the millions worldwide who still have “blind faith” in the unbelievable, whatever their religion.
      Mother’s pushing her sometimes weird christian thoughts has become a joke and an annoyance.

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      • I have considerations other than what I agree with. Or what others may dislike – that was a criteria for posting here there wouldn’t be much left.

        There’s a lot of things posted here that annoy others, but what attracts people is the relative freedom to say what they want, which can sometimes include what others may see as political or religious propaganda.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 24, 2019

          I blahblahblahed down it.

          I think that she would turn people off, which is a shame. This RoR is just meaningless rambling and would convince nobody.She calls Islam a religion of hate and then claims to tolerate it…she is the sort of person whom people call a religious nutter, with some reason.

          I do believe in a Creator, but must admit that many soi-disant Christians do not live up to their supposed beliefs, especially the Biblical command about visiting the widows and orphans in their affliction. Too busy, I was told by one; people lead busy lives. Too busy to pick up the phone ?

          People are not so much offended by Jesus as irritated by smug people who assume that other people have no valid beliefs because they are not like theirs and who bang on and on and on about them.

          A Sikh, Hindu, Muslim or Buddhist who did this would be a turnoff .

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      • Corky

         /  March 24, 2019

        ”As far as I am concerned, her “reply” is nothing less than religious propaganda.”

        Or an exquisite piece of piss taking.

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    • Duker

       /  March 24, 2019

      How can you even have a discussion with someone who thinks this
      “Kiwis are gravely threatened by communism.”

      Cant even imagine her religious viewpoint is something a NZ trained minister can make sense of. It would be a sort of Christianity from in the US and beamed into living rooms on TV on Sunday mornings with online hooks for the faithful/ donations

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 24, 2019

        Benny Hinn, who cured himself of a cold by putting his hand on the television during one of his won broadcasts ?

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      • harryk

         /  March 24, 2019

        ‘It would be a sort of Christianity from in the US’

        It’s not as if those people aren’t active in NZ, as I’ve previously pointed out. In Dunedin too. And see his Pillar Baptist directory link for a list of the US ‘churches’ he promotes.

        https://www.facebook.com/pastorloganrobertson/

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 24, 2019

          No, thanks, I can guess….this is the man who wants gay couples shot, am I right ?

          I bet he likes the Westboro Baptists.

          His video has been removed from You Tube.

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  2. Blazer

     /  March 24, 2019

    ‘Kiwis are gravely threatened by communism.’

    by trying to mix politics with religion you have blown your whole case out of the water.

    As for the empty threats….do behave!🐱‍🚀

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 24, 2019

      Muddled thinking, I fear, and blanket assumptions. Does she mean afraid of it or under threat from it ? Or both ?

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  3. phantom snowflake

     /  March 24, 2019

    Kiwis are gravely threatened by communism. Communists hate free people.
    […]
    They are sneaky and causing division amongst Kiwis. I think this is a bigger threat than we are willing to acknowledge.

    Although (probably) not a communist myself, I do have a couple of communists within my social circle. They are both very open about their political beliefs, and clearly neither “hate free people” nor operate in any way that could be considered “sneaky”.
    It is my opinion that your comments about communists/communism are nothing more than conspiracist claptrap.

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    • Corky

       /  March 24, 2019

      But communism has no time for individualism. People aren’t free under such a regime. Take China and North Korea as an example. Mother may have a point?

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      • phantom snowflake

         /  March 24, 2019

        I’m not clear about the purpose of your reply; it reads as if it were a response to someone who was arguing in favour of communism, which is not what I was doing. Black and white/ binary thinking on your part??
        People aren’t free…” “Mother may have a point?” I repeat: Her point that “communists hate free people” is not universally true, according to my experience.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 24, 2019

          The theory and the practice differ because the latter encounters reality. Practiced communism creates two classes of communists: those trying to impose it and those trying to escape it.

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          • phantom snowflake

             /  March 24, 2019

            I don’t have much to offer here as I have never read any Marxist or other communist theory. However the friends I refer to are insistent that communism has never been practiced “correctly.”

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          • Blazer

             /  March 24, 2019

            too simplistic.

            We can say Capitalism creates 2 classes of Capitalists….those with money…and those…without.

            Both pure Communism and Capitalism are not in existence.

            This should have dawned on even you…by now.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 24, 2019

              Good. Can you stop the loony Left ranting about the evils of capitalism, now?

              And tell our PM we are still waiting for socialism to fix the housing crisis the last Labour govt created?

        • Corky

           /  March 24, 2019

          ”I’m not clear about the purpose of your reply; it reads as if it were a response to someone who was arguing in favour of communism, which is not what I was doing. Black and white/ binary thinking on your part??”

          Communism-the system- is collective. It has no time for individualism.

          I think it’s clear you aren’t arguing in favour of communism. Although you may be conflicted about your status as a commie.

          I was just stating a dry fact. And that Mother may be right on this point if we change the wording slightly:

          ”Communism hates free people?””

          ”I do have a couple of communists within my social circle. They are both very open about their political beliefs, and clearly neither “hate free people” nor operate in any way that could be considered “sneaky”.”

          I’m sure that’s true. Mother would be wrong in that respect.

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          • Fight4NZ

             /  March 24, 2019

            My understanding would be that you can and should be as individual as you like. However any economic gains accrue to the collective not the individual. So it isn’t based on selfishness. So aligned incredibly closely to Jesus teachings again by my understanding. Obviously a striking similarity missed by Mother and wherever she sources her ideas. Suspiciously like a US Evangelical more politics than Christian ideology.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 24, 2019

              Joyce Meyer ‘Remember that MILLION is spelt M I L L I O N !!!’

              (actual quote)

  4. duperz

     /  March 24, 2019

    ‘Nothing is absolute anymore.’? ‘Kiwis are gravely threatened by communism.’?

    Just checked and found there are no reds under any of our beds. Having said that, did I check because I feel gravely threatened? And anyway, they’d have to be really skinny buggers to fit there.

    Seriously though, I absolutely do not feel gravely threatened by communism.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 24, 2019

      My bed is a Sealy with a deep base and short legs which I have stood on blocks of wood to let me use the space for storage….a cat might be able to squeeze under it (the Maltese terrier couldn’t) so any Red under there would indeed be a skinny bugger. Mr Puniverse wouldn’t be in it.

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  5. Zedd

     /  March 24, 2019

    I have spent several decades looking into various ‘Religions’.. i call myself a ‘seeker of truth’ (so far I have not found any church or sect, that I wish to commit to)

    BUT the one thing that has become clear, after looking into several ‘Christian sects’, Islam, Hinduism, Rastafari, Zoroaster & Bahai. I will add ‘Buddhism’ (not a religion, but a ‘path to self realisation) etc.; Is the Intolerance that seems to exist amongst many. Even an arrogance that ‘We are the one true religion & all others are wrong’. I have even heard that this goes as far as using terms like ‘Infidels’ & allegations that other religions are ‘Devil worship’ because they differ.

    I have previously mentioned , that in the book of Daniel,(KJV bible) it talks of the ‘the Rise of the little horn, Antichrist power, given their authority by Satan ?’
    This power/church claims to be infallible & stands in ‘God’s place on earth’ (so I understand) & yet they are seen by over 25% of all ‘people of faith’ as” ‘the Universal church’. I wonder whether any of their ‘followers’ in this church, have actually read the ‘Holy Bible’ ?
    I have only read some of it; I’m not an expert, by any means

    To my mind, the reason why there are so many ‘Religions’ is due the fact, that the ‘Holy scriptures’ (inc. Qur’an & many other texts) are being interpreted by people. I have heard it said; give 100 people a passage of text & you will likely get, 100 varying interpretations.. most will not 100% agree, on every point. Does this mean all are wrong ? No sez I, but they just see things, from different perspectives..

    btw; Just to make a final point: many ‘christians’ believe today (Sunday) is the ‘Holy sabbath’, but ask a ‘Jew’ (Or 7th day adventist) which day is the Sabbath & you will get a different answer. Sunday is the ‘venerable day of the Sun’ (Cult of Sol Invictus) adopted by the RCC & others as the ‘Christian sabbath’ under ‘their authority’ ?! :/

    Zedd’s rant is over.. & out
    🙂

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    • “Believe it OR not…” 😀

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    • Zedd

       /  March 24, 2019

      who is the bigger fool.. the fool or the one who follows him/her ? :/

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 24, 2019

      In the same vein, Zedd, I am sure many lecturers would be astonished at the lecture notes their students leave the room with.

      The human ability to misinterpret is unparalleled. Especially when they have a vested interest.

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      • Zedd

         /  March 24, 2019

        Too True.. AW

        I cant argue with your logic

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 24, 2019

        A friend doing a PhD and tutoring at NYU despairs of the garbled nonsense his students turn in. He sent me some examples; it’s hard to believe that these were not done by children.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 24, 2019

      A Muslim girl told me that they were in big trouble with her mother if they called someone an infidel. I suspect that it’s only the fanatics who use this term; it’s like saying nigger.

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  6. MaureenW

     /  March 24, 2019

    Speed-reading through this Right of Reply, I notice most paragraphs start with the word “I”.
    “Me, myself and I” tends to be a boring read for others. It’s what I’d expect to see marking the homework of 9-year olds.

    “I think what god wants …….blah blah” is probably for you to grow up and be accountable for you own opinions instead of trying to pretend you know your gods thoughts and need to tell everyone on a blog .. everyday, on every thread when the topic is nothing to do with you personally and your god.

    If you had any consideration for other people, you would have stopped writing what probably belongs on a religious forum or in a personal diary. But you don’t – it’s all about you.

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    • Zedd

       /  March 24, 2019

      Its titled ‘Right of reply’ what did you expect ?
      Matou, tatou, ratou, koutou OR Koe ?? :/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 24, 2019

      She calls her comments ‘inane’, which is a bit odd.

      She must have a hotline to God to know so much about Him; she reduces Him to the level of a human being. I would advice her to read some works by Father Sophrony of Maldon (Orthodox monk) and see what humility is.

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