Left versus right proposing surveillance powers

I’m not sure that a ‘non-partisan’ group set up by Jordan Williams for surveillance of surveillance would be embraced across the spectrum, especially when suggesting it he also takes a swipe at ‘those on the far left’.

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  1. Duker

     /  30th March 2019

    Sounds like the right doesnt like suveillance when its going to be directed at them. Where was Jordan Williams all those years when Key was telling the public lies over ‘mass surveillance’

    “Documents published by the NZ Herald today show, in Fisher’s summary, that “development of Speargun continued after the time [Key] had said he ordered a halt – apparently because the scheme was ‘too broad’”; that “Speargun wasn’t actually stopped until after Key was told in a secret briefing that details were likely to become public because they could be in the trove of secrets taken by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.” Spinoff
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11948852

    A PM telling the public lies about the extent of surveillance, surely thats a prime area for a ‘Big Brother Watch’ , but Williams really only wants a partisan watch

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    • artcroft

       /  30th March 2019

      Yawn. Key’s gone and bitching won’t bring him back, sadly. So question now is; do you support greater govt surveillance or not and why?

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      • Duker

         /  30th March 2019

        It has to do with why we have got the surveillance we have , and why does Jordan Williams suddenly find he wants to play Dotcoms role as Big brother watchdog. Its certainly not because thats long been a cause of his.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  30th March 2019

      I would have thought that broadcasting the extent and nature of surveillance would be akin to telling people how to avoid it.

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    • Jordan Williams

       /  30th March 2019

      I have always argues that those on the centre right (i.e. suspicious about the power and size of the state) should be more cautious of state suveillance powers.

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      • Duker

         /  30th March 2019

        of course …you were a big supporter of Kim Dotcoms crusade against state surveillance and the sis/gcsb over reach ( actually illegal activity )……Surely …..something more than complaining some minor bands who received NZ on air funding and later played at the Internet Partys campaign party.
        https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/tags/internet_party

        instead we get

        https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/tags/gcsb
        The page you were looking for was not found.

        thats right, partisan hack is the TU approach, because if the labour govt had been in power during the GCSB illegal activity it would have been a topic for months.

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  2. Blazer

     /  30th March 2019

    Yes as usual Key LIED.

    Promised to resign if NZ’ers were subjected to ‘mass surveillance’…and then sidestepped with the feeble defence…it was only…’bulk collection’!🤦‍♂️

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