Rugby Australia intend to sack Israel Folau, NRL rule out a switch of codes

Rugby Australia says they intend to sack Israel Folau “In absence of compelling and mitigating factors, it is our intention to terminate his contract”.

This dents Australia’s chances in the Rugby World Cup later this year, but they appear to have little choice, after Folau’s homophobic, forniphibic, idolphobic, fibaphobic, drunkaphobic social media post.

The NRL has also stated that they would not allow Folau to return to league – NRL won’t allow sacked Israel Folau to rejoin the NRL

Any hopes of a rugby league homecoming for fallen Wallaby Israel Folau have been dashed after ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie sensationally banned him from the NRL on Thursday night.

While up to nine NRL clubs may have the financial means to sign Folau, the governing body has ruled out allowing them to take a risk on the controversial star ending any hopes the former Kangaroo could seek refuge in the code which gave him his start.

“Israel Folau fails the NRL’s inclusiveness culture which is a policy strongly supported by the Australian Rugby League Commission,” Beattie told the Daily Telegraph on Thursday night.

“As a game, we have a clear position to be inclusive.

“From our point of view rugby union has made a decision that clearly rugby league would support.

“The ARLC therefore would not support his registration to play in the NRL.”

Folau is finding that ‘free speech’ can have consequences, especially when one ignores contractual agreements not to repeat making divisive public statements. He said that just about everyone will go to hell if they don’t repent (which is a ludicrous concept), but his lack of repenting will guaranetee’s his sports career will go to hell.

 

 

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  1. NOEL

     /  12th April 2019

    ……… but his lack of repenting will gauranetee’s his sports career will go to hell.

    Cracker!!!

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    • Gezza

       /  12th April 2019

      1news at 6 last night showed what appeared to be a cellphone video of him recently ranting about hell awaiting homosexuals & fornicators etc at a pulpit in a church somewhere too. Looks like not all members of the congregation agree with him – or at least that they don’t like him talking about it.

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      • Video here:

        Controversial former Wallabies star Israel Folau launches an attack on Christmas, Easter and Catholicism in a sermon at his local church.
        https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/israel-folaus-war-on-christmas-easter-and-catholicism/video/7a8ab355833adda1402bb2eec9bc1ac0

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        • Gezza

           /  12th April 2019

          Not a Seventh Day Adventist is he? A couple of weeks back, channel surfing late at night, I ended up watching, fascinated, as one of their pastors, using a Powerpoint presentation, was explaining, in detail how, when one reads the Book of Revelation together with Book of Daniel – which God, centuries before – deliberately provided as the key to interpreting Revelations – it proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that The Pope is the AntiChrist.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th April 2019

            Does he think that people who celebrate Christmas and Easter (in the Christian way) will also go to Hell ?

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            • Kimbo

               /  12th April 2019

              Could well do…if they don’t repent. 😀 The Puritans tried to ban Christmas at one stage due to what they perceived as the idolatrous, pagan and papist origins.

          • Kimbo

             /  12th April 2019

            In the Immediate context of the book of Revelation the anti-Christ was the Roman Emperor Domitian in whose name the seven churches in Asia Minor were persecuted. It was also orthodox Protestant doctrine at the time of the Reformation that the Pope, or more exactly the papacy was anti-Christ. Was both doctrinal (the Pope claims to stand in Christ’s place on earth, which is a qualification of an anti-Christ), and also due to Catholic persecution of Protestant martyrs.

            However, a more nuanced application would be anyone who persecutes the faithful church, so the likes of Muhammad, Hitler, Stalin and Mao would apply.

            Oh, yes, and the SDAs are a good example of Dispensationalists who love to compare biblical apocalyptic literature with current events and project dates for Christ’s Return. However, their proto movement, the Millerites underwent “the Great Disappointment” of 1844/45, and it was only a bunch of diehards led by the SDA prophetess Ellen G White who refused to accept the dates were wrong…so they came up with an explanation from the book of Daniel as to why Jesus did not return then.

            The Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose founder was influenced by the SDAs looked forward with similar fervour to 1914, also based on projecting dates from the book of of Daniel. And when their expectations weren’t met, did a similar explanation of why Jesus didn’t return but actually, he did invisibly.

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          • Kimbo

             /  12th April 2019

            But no, as Folau plays sport on the Sabbath (Friday evening to Saturday evening) he is not an SDA. Hardcore Assembly of God (AOG) I have read, so heavily into the Pentecostal holiness tradition with a direct phone line to God courtesy of visions, prophecies, tongues etc. Because they have an individual congregational not corporate episcoplalian model of church government, the degree of fervour and for purity of life and worship depends on the local pastor-pope. 😳

            As per the Great Protestant Reformer, John Calvin, “zeal without knowledge is like a sword in the hands of a lunatic”. 😀

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            • Gezza

               /  12th April 2019

              The Catholics’ revenge for the calumnies formerly heaped upon them by the Anglicans is to claim that “the Church of England is founded on the balls of Henry VIII !”

            • Kimbo

               /  12th April 2019

              …whereas the Anglican claim that cemented their faith in English hearts as the national church ahead of Catholicism were the words of Bishop Hugh Latimer to his fellow martyr, Nicholas Ridley, as they were about to be burned at the stake during the reign of Henry’s first daughter, mad bad sad Roman Catholic Bloody Mary:

              “Play the man, Master Ridley; We shall this day light such a candle by God’s grace, in England as, I trust, shall never be put out!”

              The moral of the story – never martyr your enemies as they are often far more dangerous dead rather than alive.

            • Gezza

               /  12th April 2019

              Honestly, this religion thing, it leads to so much badness & sadness.

              Kimbo, if you are still up, I have submitted a first post for a possible Religion section & PG has cleared it & advised that he will post it tomorrow. I am hoping to see some comments from you, and any others of a mind to offer their opinions & insights. It is bold in its assertion.

              I had various ideas for the topic & heading, but have decided on this one to kick things off.

              I am also hoping you (& others) might be interested perhaps in writing a post or two on anything about your religious beliefs should you feel the urge or inclination to proffer some thoughts or view on any topic at all that you consider warrants explanation or debate by anyone interested.

            • Kimbo

               /  12th April 2019

              Cheers, Gezza. Will try and participate as time (which will be short for me tomorrow) permits.

            • Gezza

               /  13th April 2019

              The idea, I think, is that anyone could access a post easily & continue a discussion of interest at any time.

        • Mother

           /  12th April 2019

          In my experience, Christians who attack those things become very like them. They go on to make the same spiritual mistakes they are complaining about. As a public figure this will be tough for Mr Falou. I hope he humbles himself (after he’s found a better job).

          Catholicism is huge. That deceit is here to stay till the end. There’s no point ranting against it.

          Mr Falou has a lot to learn. It’s a shame that some of his behaviour is causing Christianity a bad rap. However, I’d rather see that than to lose our freedom of speech.

          The mockery thrown at Mr Falou is just childish. Is our mourning period over? How can people learn in a safe environment when self righteous glee abounds?

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          • Gezza

             /  12th April 2019

            That’s all very well for Mr Falou, Mother – but would you say the same things about Mr Folau? 😐

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th April 2019

            Probably.

            He doesn’t seem to think that many people WON’T be in Hell….has he ever read ‘Judge not lest ye be judged.’ (I think that’s how it goes, but the meaning is clear) ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions,’

            I wonder if he donates his probably hefty salary to charity on the grounds that it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven ?

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    • Corky

       /  12th April 2019

      No, Noel..the good lord will reward him with a new contract. Even the Devil likes a talented sports star.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th April 2019

        The problem may be that he’s not saying that HE thinks these are wrong, but that everyone who’s done them is going to Hell. If everyone who’s ever used a metaphor is a liar (which they are in the most literal sense) then there won’t be many who don’t go to Hell.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th April 2019

        Even the Devil likes a talented sports star.
        Eh ? 😳

        Hang on, I’ll check. 😐

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        • Corky

           /  12th April 2019

          I remember that clip. That’s a gem. I doubt we have a comedian in NZ who could pull that off. The subtleties are superb .

          But no, the devil likes sports stars because they are his unwitting vicars . They preach his favourite religion for the masses. The opium of damnation.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th April 2019

            That makes no sense at all.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th April 2019

              Has Satan actually told you all this ? And you seem to confuse God and Satan in a previous post, or do you call him ‘the good Lord’ ?

  2. duperez

     /  12th April 2019

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  3. Duker

     /  12th April 2019

    Infamy
    Infamy
    They have got it in for me

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th April 2019

      Not quite; it’s ‘Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it infamy.’ (Kenneth Williams, Carry on Cleo)

      Voted one of the best comedy lines ever.

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      • Duker

         /  12th April 2019

        Thanks Kitty.
        My best joke (out of a movie)
        “Whats the most favourite song in Folk Music
        The off switch.”

        The best joke in a Broadway show was from the Odd Couple ( staged in the puritanical 50s for movies and stage)
        Oscar Madison( reading a note left on the breakfast table)
        “we’all out of Cornflakes F U.”

        Apparently the audience laughed for some minutes.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  12th April 2019

          Judi Dench once accidentally made a spoonerism of ‘Vivat Regina ! ‘ on stage.

          Have you seen the Two Ronnies ‘Mastermind’ ? It’s on YouTube.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  12th April 2019

          Was it Ric Salizzo who said ‘three queers for the Cheen’ ?

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  4. Duker

     /  12th April 2019

    Well once he was ‘gay friendly’

    lead story : Big boys and their Balls

    Much needed reminder from the Sydney Star Observer that in 2014, Israel Folau was the Poster Boy for the fantastic Gay Rugby World Cup help in Sydney… the Sydney Convicts won!

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  5. The Consultant

     /  12th April 2019

    Given how devout he is, Sonny Bill should be asked what he thinks of gays, gay marriage and the rest.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th April 2019

      Why ? They’re his business.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  13th April 2019

      SBW seems to have empathy, Folau doesn’t, and I thought empathy was at the heart of Christianity. Folau sounds more like a good old bible basher but not a Christian.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  12th April 2019

    Why the focus on homosexuals? Jones on Folau:
    https://nopunchespulled.com/2019/04/12/more-media-hypocrisy

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    • Kimbo

       /  12th April 2019

      Because it is potentially commercially sensitive to the corporate image and interests of Rugby Australia and Qantas. As a businessman I would have thought Bob Jones would have understood that. Then again he is being tongue-in-cheek.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  12th April 2019

        Second, why did the critics, including the Prime Minister, solely complain about the reference to homosexuals? What about us drunks and fornicators? Doesn’t she care about our pain? We know the answer to that, namely unlike fairydom we’re not fashionable at the moment.

        I can understand journalists concentration on homosexuals as few are whereas make no mistake, the vast majority I’ve known are drunks, adulterers, liars and fornicators to various degrees, so too heaps of MP’s. A double-standard here methinks.

        More nail on the head than tongue in cheek.

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        • Kimbo

           /  12th April 2019

          No. not according to the tenets of dialectic analysis which undergird LGBT activism, and which also informs Ardern’s social democratic concerns. You know, all that stuff about the hegemony marginalising certain groups – of which (it is claimed with some merit) the LGBT community are one…whereas fornicators, idolaters etc. are not.

          But then Bob Jones likely doesn’t give a toss for dialectic theory and the original Marxism from which such political activism sprang…other than as a source of (admittedly amusing) derision.

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  7. oldlaker

     /  12th April 2019

    Has freedom of religion been officially abandoned in NZ? I recall it being covered in Section 15 of BORA. Maybe it has been quietly repealed.

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  8. oldlaker

     /  12th April 2019

    Oops. I meant in Australia and its human rights law.

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    • Duker

       /  12th April 2019

      Wouldnt that just cover ‘practicing his religion’ which isnt changed.
      His rugby job has various personal sponsorships from large companies, those are what hes lost as he would have breached his contract along with whatever hes signed with Rugby Australia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Australia

      to me its not a coincidence these ‘old’ videos have come to light just as a new election was announced a few days ago. When you dont have a winning policy you fire up the culture wars

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  9. oldlaker

     /  12th April 2019

    Duker, freedom of religion covers the right to say and think what you like in both public and private, so I imagine his contract with the rugby franchise should, in principle, allow him to say what he likes off-field. However, that’s a very good point about sponsorship, which I really hadn’t considered, and I’m less certain of my grounds on that question. Thanks.

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