Majority support stronger firearms laws – poll

A 1 News/Colmar Brunton poll has only 14% of people opposing the new firearms laws.

1 News  New poll: 61% of New Zealanders back gun ban in wake of Christchurch atrocity

The majority of New Zealand voters believe the Government’s swift move to enact new gun laws has been “about right” in the wake of the Christchurch terrorist attacks.

In the latest 1 NEWS Colmar Brunton poll, eligible New Zealand voters were asked what they thought of the Government’s moves.

  • 61%  thought the changes were about right
  • 19% thought it did not go far enough
  • 14% thought it went too far
  • 5% didn’t know
  • 2% refused to answer.

So 80% thought the changes were ‘about right’ or didn’t go far enough.

The Government has indicated this was the ‘first tranche’ of changes and intend to do more, but will wisely take more to look into what else should be done.

Between April 6 and 10, 1009 eligible voters were polled via landline and mobile phone. The maximum sampling error is approximately ±3.1%-points at the 95 per cent confidence level.

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22 Comments

  1. NOEL

     /  17th April 2019

    Good example of the dumbing of media when the claim by the gun lobby that they should wait untll after the Royal Commission is in was unquestioned by the interviewer.
    In the TORs it clearly states gun law review is off the table.I

    No surprising given many of the changes were rejected by the trough feeders in 2017.

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  2. Corky

     /  17th April 2019

    Great poll. It tells me way more than what people think of gun legislation. It tells me the future
    for NZ is bleak. It makes me wonder how many NZers actually know what the word ‘democracy’ means? Do they think it’s dumb luck we live in a peaceful country with a relative good standard of living even for our most disadvantaged? That police just can’t drag us off and torture us?

    5% didn’t know. I wonder if they knew what day of the week it was?
    2% refused to answer. Maybe they are closet gun nuts? Or more likely, they didn’t want the KFC to become cold.

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    • Duker

       /  17th April 2019

      Since when did Guns mean democracy ?
      Guns have been highly regulated for a long time, its not one huge jump to the ban on high powered semi automatics ( the initial ‘Order in Council’ as a holding regulation was autocratic but was replaced by the new amendments to legislation in the proper way)
      We dont have a direct democracy ( closest would be Switzerland where they have referenda all the time) but representative democracy where elected Mps have the say.
      Would you prefer the US style democracy Corky , where courts decide issues ?

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      • Griff.

         /  17th April 2019

        Guns don’t make you free.
        It has already been pointed out to Corky that the USA as a democracy fails to meet the standard set by country’s with far more restrictive gun laws .

        He has been sucked in by USA exceptionalism.

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        • Corky

           /  17th April 2019

          Please don’t regurgitate what I have already stated. And that was to Duker who I explained to that guns don’t make you free per se.

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          • Duker

             /  17th April 2019

            You dont even know what you think sometimes.
            The poll was on new gun laws , you said the poll tells you ” garbage nonsense democracy piffle deluded police drag you off crazy confused’
            Funny you can- read the entrails to- join some dots – pull a rabbit out of the hat -end of the world is coming

            Interesting that slightly more think the new gun laws ‘dont go far enough’ than those that think its too far.
            Smashed them

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            • Corky

               /  17th April 2019

              You seem to be upset, Duker. That happens to people who think they have an issue nailed..then have it thrown back in their face.

              I make no apologies.

              ”Funny you can- read the entrails to- join some dots – pull a rabbit out of the hat -end of the world is coming.”

              Funny you should mention that. May I remind you of what happens to people have their supposed safe little world impinged upon, even indirectly. They lose their reason and become crazy. May pay to check my comments on the same thread and see how they stack up with what has happened since.

              https://yournz.org/2019/03/15/media-watch-friday-147/#comment-356214

            • Duker

               /  17th April 2019

              World has allways changed corker. When I was growing up US bombers would every day load up with live nuclear weapons and head for Russia, if they didnt get the recall signal they would keep going and obliterate Russian cities.
              Dont let a few little things tell you we are nowon a slippery slope.

      • Corky

         /  17th April 2019

        I’m afraid you have misread my post, Duker. As you usually do in your mad rush to score another ‘self goal.”

        ”Great poll. It tells me way more than what people think of gun legislation. It tells me the future for NZ is bleak.”

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  17th April 2019

          Own goal, not self goal. An own goal is where someone kicks the ball into the goal that his side is defending. Self goal is meaningless.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  17th April 2019

      The survey, like many surveys, didn’t have an ‘undecided’ option, which means that those who are undecided (for any reason) have to tick ‘don’t know’.

      You have said before that carrying a gun means that the person is respected, but by that logic armed robbers are respected by their victims.

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  3. alloytoo

     /  17th April 2019

    On the whole, I think the poll is meaningless.

    I personally favour decent well thought out and appropriate gun laws and on the face of the question would probably be along with the majority.

    However, because I favour decent well thought out and appropriate gun laws I have huge reservations about the recent changes which were introduced with obscene haste.

    Important law deserves more consideration.

    I very much doubt any of the people who responded to the poll have a comprehensive knowledge of the changes recently pushed through. (I know I don’t).

    Given NZ’s gun crime statistics prior to this “event” I personally don’t think this knee jerk response was warranted, unless of course the objective was political.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  17th April 2019

      When I read David Seymour’s objections, I could see why he made them.

      But I have thought for a long time that there is NO justification for people to own military weapons.

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      • alloytoo

         /  17th April 2019

        I have heard valid arguments for and against and there appears to be a grey area between useful pest management tool and military weapon. It’s also a technical issue.

        The issue should have had prolonged debate which would have allowed people with expertise to come to the fore.

        Exclude this loser and registered New Zealand gun owners are by in large responsible and law abiding (the stats support this).

        And before anybody asks, I do not own a firearm.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  17th April 2019

          David does not support military weapons being owned by people, but he was concerned about the bill being rushed through.

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        • Duker

           /  17th April 2019

          Grey area allowed for by the legislation. Excludes police /military and pest contractors can have special licenses to use these type of guns.
          People who want to shoot rabbits/possums instead of playing twilight golf can rely on those lower powered guns without interchangeable magazines

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      • Andrew

         /  17th April 2019

        That’s the thing though. The vast majority of now-illegal firearms are not “military weapons”. But using that emotive term does make it sound like the government is awesome for banning them ….

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  17th April 2019

          I am NOT a fan of this government and do not think it’s awesome at all. I don’t think that the PM is a great leader by any means.

          But ‘military/military style’ is a handy label for that sort of weapon, and we all know what it means. I don’t see it as emotive.

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          • alloytoo

             /  17th April 2019

            I’m not sure what it means in the NZ context when I think “military/military style” weapons I think AK47 or M16.

            I know the AK is reliable and capable of a high rate of fire, but is notoriously inaccurate. Not sure I’d like to hunt a wild pig with it.

            I can however understand the need to have a semi-automatic weapon when hunting such beasties.

            This is the sort of nuance and balance required when drafting such legislation and that takes time.

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            • Griff.

               /  17th April 2019

              What do you think the target of the legislation something like an ar15 clone is?
              Here is a hint
              Its a m16 that does not have full auto.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle
              Not that semi auto makes that much difference if you are intent on going postal as full auto is not accurate in use.
              There is no real use for an AR15 or similar semi auto rifle with a high capacity mag for civilians. .Such weapons are purposely designed to hunt and kill humans as close range .

              MSSAs include: semi-automatics capable of being used with a detachable magazine with more than five cartridges; and semi-automatic shotguns capable of being used with a detachable magazine holding more than five cartridges

              Hunters should never be spraying bullets indiscriminately in the hope of hitting something . Five rounds is enough for most pest hunting situations. Any more is marginal as wild things are inclined run away as soon as their mates start dropping . ..

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th April 2019

              Don’t eat meat and there’ll be no need to kill some unlucky piggy.

        • Duker

           /  17th April 2019

          High powered semi automatics that can be up sized in the magazine are military weapons. Thats what the terrorist attacker used.
          The decades of debate about how this or that feature on a gun makes it ‘military style’ is over. The cut off point is now much lower.
          we havent allowed most people to own pistols at all, now another category has been added.
          Once every bank manager or head teller had a pistol in the draw, I suppose they thought without one every bank would be cleaned out. Never happened.
          Life goes on.

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