National backs Pike River mine re-entry

The National Opposition have said they now support re-entry into the Pike River mine as they believe it can be done safely.

NZ Herald:  Politics off the Pike River table as National backs re-entry

The National Party is accepting advice that the Pike River re-entry can now be done safely, taking politics off the table on an issue that has been a bitter political battleground.

Yesterday, the party’s Pike River recovery spokesman, Mark Mitchell, met with the Families Reference Group – which represents more than 80 per cent of Pike River victims’ families – and told them National supported the re-entry plan.

Afterwards, Mitchell told the Herald the party’s position had always backed a re-entry as long as it could be done safely, but it is the first time National has told the families’ group it backs the plan.

“The advice now is that we can get in there, and we completely support that.”

As far as I can find rep-entry is planned to begin on 3 May:

Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry Andrew Little has announced that in light of the current state of preparations, the scheduled date to commence re-entering and recovering the access tunnel to the Pike River Mine (the drift) will be Friday 3rd May.

“Since I announced on 14 November 2018 that the project will proceed, there has been an incredible amount of preparation to get ready for re-entry. This has included preparing bridges for heavy loads, installing a nitrogen plant, upgrading the power supply, laying many kilometres of piping for the nitrogen, drilling more boreholes, installing monitoring equipment, and purging and ventilating the drift.

“As well as this, staff have been trained on working in a forensic environment. Worksafe have been reviewing all aspects of the planning, risk assessments and supporting documentation, in order to ensure the re-entry plan is safe.

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/pike-river-mine-re-entry

 

19 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  April 20, 2019

    quelle surprise…!latest focus group results and polls contour National policy as per usual.

  2. Zedd

     /  April 20, 2019

    populist politics.. NOW; after years of constantly rejecting this option ??

    Natl would have us believe that post-Key/english.. the ‘Leopard has finally.. changed it spots’.. WRONG ! :/

    Do Natl actually have any real agenda, on anything, other than: money, money, MONEY & the ongoing acquisition of power ?

  3. how very nice of them, why the foot dragging when they were in the power seat?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  April 20, 2019

      They were told that it was too dangerous and not worth the risk. You don’t risk the living to retrieve the dead.

      Some people still think that there will be bodies to recover. I doubt it. I can see little point; spend the money on the living, not on bringing out a few crumbs of bone and some ash.

      • My point was more about Nats’ about face when the shoe is on the other foot. They weren’t concerned when they were the govt. It is also about finding the ‘truth’ regarding what happened (which is pretty scarce these days) as much as recovering their loved ones which I would not call bits of bone & ash, depends whose family it is doesn’t it?

        • Corky

           /  April 20, 2019

          Similar points have previously been explained to Kitty. You are wasting your time.
          My I add that it’s also about closure – whether they find bodies or not. I agree with your comments.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  April 20, 2019

            Corky, mind your own business,

            Closure is highly overrated.It’s a weasel word.

            What difference will it make to the families if a few unidentifiable shards are recovered ? It won’t stop them grieving.How can it. ? There are families who don’t want the mine reopened, their wishes have been swept aside and their voices hardly heard. It’s as if they have no rights at all.

            The initial reports suggested that opening the mine would be extremely dangerous and endanger the people going in. Nobody should be expected to risk their own life for this. I don’t hear people like Corky offering to go in; they want other people to do it.

  4. Corky

     /  April 20, 2019

    Another reason why National doesn’t deserve the treasury benches. They didn’t give a flying fig about distraught families of dead miners; many who asked for a reentry option.
    This mine would long ago have been reentered if it was located overseas where common sense trumps fly by wire processes.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  April 20, 2019

      The reason for not wanting to go back in was that it was considered far too dangerous.

      The idea that that bodies will be recovered is a dream. It’s like expecting a body to emerge from a crematorium.

      It will cost more than $1,000,000 for each miner who died there. Good use of money ?

      • Duker

         /  April 20, 2019

        Will you eat your words if they find different.?…..that’s right you get your words from kiwiblog and whaleoil and wouldn’t know the first thing about how coal mines work or what happens km underground without oxygen for human remains.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  April 20, 2019

          Me get words from Whaleoil and Kiwiblog ? Dream on. I have looked at WO twice and have never been to Kiwiblog. What on earth makes you think that I would rely on anything those two said ? Dream on.I’m not Corky.

          I actually know a reasonable amount about coalmining; as it happens. There was a massive explosion that heated the atmosphere to a great heat, enough to cremate anyone caught in it. This was not like people being naturally mummified underground and remaining more or less intact. From the sound of it, it made the shaft into a giant crematorium. You seem to have little idea of the dangers of mine explosions.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  April 20, 2019

          And don’t insult me by saying (a lie) that I believe anything written by the Whaleoil bigoted fools or that’s on a site I have never even looked at. If I wanted serious information, I wouldn’t look for it there, forsooth. Corky does. Enough said.

          • Duker

             /  April 21, 2019

            Its not a crematorium. Do you even know how crematoriums work and how many hours of high heat it takes to turn a body into ash.
            What kills men underground is rockfalls, toxic air and if there is an explosion a shock wave in confined spaces.

            ‘The former general manager at Pike River Coal believes the bodies of the 29 men who died in the mine could have been recovered.

            At a meeting between police and the Pike victim’s families following the explosion, police had downplayed the chance of a successful body recovery, Doug White told the inquiry today.- 2011 Enquiry. Expert OPINION !
            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5571588/Miners-bodies-could-have-been-recovered
            So you know better than a guy who was a Mine manager at PK ?

            Thats why I say you get your words from kiwiblog … never any real facts to support your claims

            Another NZ ‘mine explosion’ where most bodies recovered . FACT!
            https://nzhistory.govt.nz/explosion-at-strongman-mine-at-runanga

            If you continue to talk fanciful gossip from talkback or kiwiblog etc without doing any simple research then I will continue to call you out for it .
            Save the poor little thing pleading for a judge

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  April 21, 2019

              You are an offensive liar at times. How many times do you have to be told that someone never listens to talkback radio (what an insult to suggest this) and has never gone near kiwiblog ?

              I have never claimed to know more than a mine manager; another lie.

              I have said that I have never been to kiwiblog, and I never listen to talkback. I don’t know what kiwiblog is (except that it must be a blog) and I have no wish to listen to redneck radio. I never have. Corky does, and considers that I am totally ignorant because I don’t and because I have never made a cloudbuster.

              Not all mine explosions are the same. Two at Huntly killed many men, but the bodies were recovered, One was the husband of an elderly woman whom I knew; she was left a young widow with a small child and another either a baby or on the way.

              If there’s a ball of flame, the odds are that anyone in its way will be cremated.

              If you keep up this offensive lying about me, I will have no hesitation in requesting ‘moderation.’

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  April 21, 2019

              It’s also a fact that the mine was on fire for some time afterwards.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  April 21, 2019

              It’s also a fact that the mine was on fire for some time afterwards. If you don’t believe me, look this up.

              I do know how crematoriums work, thank you,.The Pike River fire was going longer than a crematorium (3 hours maximum) was. It was considered at the time that there was virtually no chance of ‘bodies’ being recovered.

  5. Duker

     /  April 20, 2019

    How come PG isn’t ripping them a new one over their 3rd flip flop over Pike River?

    If Ardern does anything like a half piroette there’s multiple columns about it all… But this doesn’t even get a little back story

    • Corky

       /  April 20, 2019

      Pete has made it quite clear he is anti re-entry in previous posts.