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  1. Gezza

     /  25th April 2019

    Also featuring today on Al Jazeera tv news.

    UN report: Afghan, US forces contributed to more civilian deaths in Afghanistan than Taliban, ISIS in first three months of 2019
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/united-nations-report-civilians-deaths-afghanistan/index.html

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  2. Gezza

     /  25th April 2019

    Al Jazeera tv this morning showing Sri Lamkan official (missed his name & position) at press conference stating that 8 of the 9 suicide bombers have now been identified and that a worrying development is that several of them are well-educated, holding university degrees – not poor & educated only in madrassas, middle class, have previously travelled internationally, including to Western countries, & are financialy very well-off. There is concern that others may still be at large. More CCTV video is being shown of other suicide bombers wearing back packs entering bombed hotels.

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    • Gezza

       /  25th April 2019

      The Sri Lankan official making the statements I refer to above is their ‘State Minister of Defence’.

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    • Pink David

       /  25th April 2019

      “t a worrying development is that several of them are well-educated, holding university degrees – not poor & educated only in madrassas, middle class, have previously travelled internationally, including to Western countries, & are financialy very well-off.”

      This has always been true for as long as terrorism has existed, it’s nothing new.

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      • Gezza

         /  25th April 2019

        Yes I think what he’s trying to say is that he thought that somebody with higher education would probably know enuf about reality to have long abandoned belief in a vengeful mythical god derived from the original bronze age horror of the Israelites. Aljaz reported that one of them even had a phD, but they didn’t say in what. For all we know it could be in Muslim theology.

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        • Pink David

           /  25th April 2019

          “Yes I think what he’s trying to say is that he thought that somebody with higher education would probably know enuf about reality to have long abandoned belief in a vengeful mythical god derived from the original bronze age horror of the Israelites.”

          I don’t think that is what he is trying to say at all. People with higher educations believe all kinds of crazier shit that something as simple as God.

          “For all we know it could be in Muslim theology.”

          It would be a safer bet that it will be engineering.

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          • Gezza

             /  25th April 2019

            Could be. We’ll have to wait & see. There are calls including I think by the Sri Lankan President for that State Minister for Defence to be sacked. You know how it goes. How did they miss this? Focusing on the wrong groups? Asleep at the wheel? High level Investigations demanded & underway. Dunno about their gun laws but it seems the murderers were happy to use themselves as the agents of destruction, so tight gun laws wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference.

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            • Pink David

               /  25th April 2019

              I’m told Sri Lanka also have a law against murder, that didn’t make a blind bit of difference either.

            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              I imagine they might have been operating in accordance with a law from a higher power of an ancient mythical supernatural deity who is a mass murderer itself but believers in it like to smuggle that under the carpet?

            • Kimbo

               /  25th April 2019

              With you on the ramparts to keep watch and give warning at every opportunity, Gezza, there’s little chance they’ll get away with it. No sarcasm in that, nor criticism. Just an honest observation.

              Mind you, in light of your warning that it is foolish to “enrage” and “provoke” them, you are maybe taking a risk. And yes, there was some sarcasm in that. 😉

            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              The real, & I think really sad problem is that not enough atheists can be bothered going checking the ever-growing, massive amount of current-day scholarly work that more clearly than ever before shows that all 3 of these religions have scarcely a shred of anything like genuine & credible evidence that they are true.

              Most of us over the years who live in Western countries have just gone, “Aw heck, why bother? what’s the harm if none of these both vague & ardent believers, & god knows how many of their genuine, devoted, preachers & theologians & apologists, have absolutely no idea that its even there?”

              At least you have pointed me to where the religious scholars have got to, & which clearly shows which Jesus-era Jewish sect, the dejected earliest followers & believers – who were utterly demoralised when Jesus died – came from, & where they picked up all the ideas of Jaweh constantly abandoning Israel & inflicting punishments on them, destroying their country & their temple, for disobeying his will, & from which all the Christian notions of angels, devils, the worldly & heavenly battle of the good god, and the evil god (satan), and the resigned belief that this phantasmal battle would only ever be finally won when the Messiah returned to destroy evil & those still alive at the time who were disobedient & evil, & reward those who obeyed his will with eternal life – not through an immortal soul, but in their resurrected & renergised dead bodies.

              And for that, I thank you. I had no idea. Most people don’t.

              But it comes to that issue of “What’s the harm” I not only thought of Christchurch & Sri Lanka, but listened with real sadness to one former religious, now atheist, widely-respected theological historical researcher relating the time a pastor told him that he had just been counselling the grief stricken guilt laden-mother of a 12 year old girl who had died from a brain tumour, because she had told him: “I know why it happened. God is punishing me. Because I had promised him I would give up smoking. And I didn’t.”

            • Kimbo

               /  25th April 2019

              Ok. So what did you mean by the mention of “Christchurch”, or did you misspeak? No crime in that, btw…

            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              No worries Kimbo. It possibly just needs more careful re-reading & thinking about. I think from some of the scholarly presentations of the entire body of current historical research on Jaweh & Jesus that I have now seen (a couple have written extensively on the body of research) they have wuite clearly shown where these legends came from, how many of the supposed writers are unknown, how many of the ccentral characters are probably not even real, and the supposed writers not even likely to be the writers, that forgeties were rife including Paul’s letters, that there were arguments between early followres over whether Jesus should be made divine, & establish that neither God is true.

            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              Sorry about the typos. I’m lying feet up on the sofa. The iPad’s way down on my knees & I’m not wesring my specs. Long comments can be tricky to get right with this tiny blimmin iPad.

          • Kimbo

             /  25th April 2019

            Sorry, just to clarify: You mention religion as in some way responsible for “Christchurch” (or at least that’s how I understood you).

            I know the religion of the victims (and their likely recent-migrant status) was the reason/excuse for the attack. But how was any purported religious affiliation of the POS who did it a motivation? Don’t want to put your words in your mouth but maybe you might want to consider if that is victim blaming.

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            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              Yes, I did consider that, & wondered how long it would be before you, as politely as possible, reframed my words, & went for me with that one.

              And no, it’s not.

  3. Gezza

     /  25th April 2019

    UN rights chief condemns ‘shocking’ Saudi mass executions
    The UN human rights chief on Wednesday called Saudi Arabia’s mass executions of 37 men “shocking” and “abhorrent”, joining a growing chorus of condemnation by rights groups and activists.  Saudi Arabia’s interior ministry said on Tuesday it beheaded dozens of its citizens over “terrorism” related crimes, publicly pinning two of the bodies to a pole as a warning to others.

    “I strongly condemn these shocking mass executions across six cities in Saudi Arabia yesterday,” UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet said in a statement.  “It is particularly abhorrent that at least three of those killed were minors at the time of their sentencing,” she added.  The men had been convicted of charges including attacking security installations with explosives, killing a number of security officers, and cooperating with “enemy organisations” against the interests of the country.

    Bachelet said the executions were carried out despite repeated warnings from rights officials and UN rapporteurs about lack of due process and fair trial guarantees amid allegations that confessions were obtained through torture. The Chilean UN official urged Saudi Arabia to review its counter-terrorism legislation, expressly prohibit the death penalty for minors, and halt pending executions including of three men on death row – Ali al-Nimr, Dawood al-Marhoon and Abdulla al-Zaher – whose cases she said had been taken up by the UN rights system.

    Speaking to Al Jazeera from the Swiss city of Geneva, Ravina Shamdasani, spokeswoman for Bachelet, said the UN had “sought to take measures to prevent these executions from taking place in the first place”, and urged the Saudi authorities to not carry out the penalties, but “unfortunately, this was to no avail”. 

    “We are now concerned because there are others who remain on death row and we are calling on the authorities to halt any imminent execution, to review the legislation relating to the death penalty, and in particular to outlaw the execution of those who are convicted as minors,” Shamdasani said. 

    ‘Sectarian decision’ 
    Tuesday’s sentences were carried out in Riyadh, the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina, central Qassim province, and Eastern Province, home to the country’s Shia minority. Bachelet pointed out most of the 37 belonged to the Shia-Muslim minority, and some had been involved in protests.

    New York-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) said on Wednesday at least 33 of the 37 men put to death were Shia and it was the largest set of executions in the kingdom since January 2016, when 47 people were killed. Amnesty International also said late on Tuesday the majority of those executed in six cities belonged to the Shia minority and were convicted after “sham trials”, including at least 14 people who participated in anti-government protests in the kingdom’s oil-rich Eastern Province in 2011-2012.

    Ali al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs, a US-based think-tank, said a few Sunnis were among those executed “so the list doesn’t look like a sectarian decision”, he told Al Jazeera from Washington, DC.  “This is the largest mass executions of Shias in the history of Saudi Arabia since the 1900s,” al-Ahmed added. 

    Amnesty said the kingdom has stepped up the rate of executions in 2019, with at least 104 people put to death since the start of the year compared to 149 for the whole of 2018.

    Tuesday’s mass execution was “another gruesome indication of how the death penalty is being used as a political tool to crush dissent from within” the country’s Shia minority, said Lynn Maalouf, the group’s research director for the Middle East.
    Al Jazeera (abridged – Gezza)
    … … …

    Will keep an eye out for any POTUS or Kushner or Pompeo or Bolton tweets.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th April 2019

      Time for Saudi Arabia to be designated a rogue state and sponsor of terrorism and its Wahabi sponsorship of atrocities like Sri Lanka’s exposed.

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      • Gezza

         /  25th April 2019

        Time for countries & politicians who support it & sell it arms n stuff to be designated rogues & sponsors of state terrorist atrocities as well, maybe? It’s kind of hard to for me to go along with the notion of some world leaders that “my fabulously wealthy & powerful terrorists with oil & money I want are finer people than your terrorists”? How about you?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  25th April 2019

          I hope you include those that finance them by buying their oil.

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          • Gezza

             /  25th April 2019

            Or sheep? Yup. But the arms dealers are worst for having the most obvious blatant double standards. Like, I dunno, who can I think of who’s running around cluelessly further destabilising the middle eastern counties by favouring & promoting one appallingly horrible despotic Islam-dominated regime over another in the Middle East at the moment …. ?

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            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              That reminds me. Does anyone know when Jacinda’s state visits to Riyadh & Tehran are scheduled for & any of the takking points that will be on her agenda for discussions?

            • Gezza

               /  25th April 2019

              🙄
              *talking points

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    • Gezza

       /  25th April 2019

      There’s every indication the United States government is providing the arms & possibly still intelligence assistance to the despotic Saudi Arabian regime that has been found to be directly responsible for massive numbers of innocent people’s deaths in Yemen & that look to be very similar to terrorist attacks in another country on members of a different Muslim sect. But they’re apparently “fine people”, according to his bos & his son in law?

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  5. Trevors_elbow

     /  25th April 2019

    Ahhhh Hiliary… the old look over there plot, when the real investigation should be why the Dems finance an attack dossier against Trump and got their partisans in various government departments to use it to attack Trump….

    Why doesn’t she just shut up and go away…

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/how-we-should-respond-to-mueller-report-20190425-p51h0y.html

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th April 2019

      Hillary still using talking points.

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    • duperez

       /  25th April 2019

      Clinton’s opinion is only as valuable as that of some far away New Zealander who has never been to the USA, ever spoken to an America, or been any part of the quagmire of politics.

      For all her faults, limitations and blindness though Clinton has at least ‘been there, done that,’ been part of the world she is commenting on.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  25th April 2019

        That’s the problem – her partisanship and self-interest.

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      • Trevors_elbow

         /  25th April 2019

        Your godhead is useless… lost to the worse Republican candidate ever..
        Huuuuugggeeely!

        Dupe by name dupe by nature

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        • duperez

           /  25th April 2019

          If you’re referring to me, no-one is my godhead.

          I contend that Clinton has more experience of the stuff she made comments about than anyone in New Zealand. Maybe she should shut up and go away. Of course it’s far better to get the true oil from those who have an equal amount of lack of balance that she has, who are ordinary people this far away from the action and a thousandfold further removed from knowing what actually goes on / went on.

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  6. Gezza

     /  25th April 2019

    I see from video on Al Jazeera tv that Kim Jong Un is on a state visit to Russia, glad-handing & having talks in Vladivostok with Vladimir Putin, who, seeing both countries share a land border, is reportedly hoping to be able help out with talks on de-nuclearisation of the Korean Peninsular (& trade stuff or something), owing to the abject failure of Trump & Pompeo to make any progress at all in Vietnam when Trump stormed out in a huff (or huffed out in a storm) after Un said what’s happening with the quid pro quo?

    Two things about Unnie that couldn’t be said about his old man are that he seems to be a real sharp cookie, & he sure gets around.

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    • Pink David

       /  25th April 2019

      Vlad gets the chance to add North Korea to his stable of diplomatic success stories that he has achieved in Syria and Venezuela.

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      • Gezza

         /  25th April 2019

        Still got a naval base in Syria, & his man there knows to do what he’s told. That man I expect might start clearing out the last “de-escalation zone” there soon, due to “terrorists”.

        I suspect he’s just having a bit of fun in Venezuela. Hope so anyway. Can’t see him in a position to take on the Trumpinator there yet.

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