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   Duker

    /  14th May 2019

   I saw the interview , she just spoke platitudes, even suggesting amoung the happy talk that gangs would re-integrate …pleeeese. As for the other harms….waiting on technology..aparently. Wheres pig dog debater Paula when you need her- shes probably smoked sacks loads more the Swarbrick

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   NOEL

    /  14th May 2019

   This the pollie who’s been selling the line that it’s all about those addicted who are disadvantaged by their addiction . Then promotes legalisation over decriminalization because an illicit supply would remain for the latter.. Then favours a legal supply for legalisation.

   Ahh now we know her true intent.

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     Kitty Catkin

      /  14th May 2019

     Which is more than she does herself., I’d say.

     From the sound of what you say, she wants to please everyone.

     It’s probably not a good idea to publicly slag off a senior politician; she came across as a smart-arse schoolgirl.

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   Zedd

    /  14th May 2019

   Go Chloe.. you good thing;
   Prohibition has NOT worked & has just created a massive CRIMINAL black-market !
   It IS time to move beyond it; focus on educating & keeping the drug away from <20yrs.. as opposed to 'ZERO-tolerance'. REGULATION is the word, that needs to be used.

   btw: Tame 'playing devil's advocate' ?? even suggesting 'Its just TOO SCARY, to move beyond 'status quo' ? WRONG !

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     Duker

      /  14th May 2019

     Prohibition hasnt worked ? Thats based on the same line that a ‘problem ‘ is supposed to go away when there are legal snactions.
     Making murder a crime hasnt worked either… according to that theory.
     Nor does even making ‘bad’ parking an offence either …. 10s of thousands of parking tickets issued each year
     Do you thinks the gangs wont stand over ‘legal marijuana shops’ and either extort money or make they buy from the gangs.

     Chloe – bless her sweet innocent heart -seems to think that ‘walking a straight line is an adequate legal test for impairment for roadside testing of drivers, along with believing gangs ‘will reintegrate’ as the major supply markets are legalised. Bless , such a niave person bought up in a privileged background

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       Zedd

        /  14th May 2019

       I think you are just saying ‘Its all just, too hard (to change) so lets just continue doing the same old thing.. expecting a different outcome’! (def. of insanity ??)

       Comparing cannabis use to MURDER or other acts that harm others.. is just totally ridiculous.. perhaps; try comparing apples to apples.. maybe Booze drinking

       Prohibition did not work with Alcohol in 1920s USA.. it is NOT working with cannabis/other drugs.. ‘all we are saying is give PEACE a chance’ as opposed to: WAR on drugs 😦

       btw; no one (with any sense) is saying ‘lets Legalise Cannabis/MJ & solve all the problems’ BUT we are saying ‘The status quo is not working.. its about time to, at least, try something else’ as they did in 1933 in USA; repeal of Alcohol Prohibition.. in favour of Regulation (adults use)

       FEAR-mongering is a sign of Desperation 😀

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         Kitty Catkin

          /  14th May 2019

         `Zedd; I read that a brisk trade was done in grape juice with large warnings (:D) on the label that this might turn into wine if this that and the other was done…

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         Duker

          /  14th May 2019

         The old prohibition in US didnt work meme. Its such an anecotal story it must be true ?
         These people dont think so
         Did Prohibition Really Work? Alcohol Prohibition as a Public Health Innovation

         The conventional view that National Prohibition failed rests upon an historically flimsy base. The successful campaign to enact National Prohibition was the fruit of a century-long temperance campaign, experience of which led prohibitionists to conclude that a nationwide ban on alcohol was the most promising of the many strategies tried thus far. A sharp rise in consumption during the early 20th century seemed to confirm the bankruptcy of alternative alcohol-control programs.

         The stringent prohibition imposed by the Volstead Act, however, represented a more drastic action than many Americans expected. Nevertheless, National Prohibition succeeded both in lowering consumption and in retaining political support until the onset of the Great Depression altered voters’ priorities. Repeal resulted more from this contextual shift than from characteristics of the innovation itself.

         and the public health benefits ?
         ‘Death rates from cirrhosis and alcoholism, alcoholic psychosis hospital admissions, and drunkenness arrests all declined steeply during the latter years of the 1910s, when both the cultural and the legal climate were increasingly inhospitable to drink, and in the early years after National Prohibition went into effect. ‘
         Organised crime existed before and after prohibition, movies have made it seem otherwise.

         Not a failure at all. There was an exemption for ‘home consumption’ but of course the manufacture and distribution was banned ( except near beer below .5%)

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           Duker

            /  14th May 2019

           Forgot the link
           https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470475/

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             Kitty Catkin

              /  14th May 2019

             If you read what the additives were in alcohol in the Victorian era (and probably before, I don’t know) especially the cheaper ones, you wouldn’t wonder why some people were so anti-liquor. I used to think that the horror stories were exaggerations by the Band of Hope and the rest, but they weren’t. In an age where arsenic was so prevalent, it was used as an additive to alcohol !

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