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17  May 2019

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  1. David

     /  17th May 2019

    I strangely find myself in agreement with 2 groups who rarely see eye to eye in opposing the batshit crazy Tory run England and its obsession, a weird one, with transgenderism. Not sure if its Mays way of showing her party as caring or woke but I fail to see the point in teaching 6 year olds about homosexuality and transgenderism. Let kids be kids, they generally dont care what anyone is.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7037345/Protests-against-LGBT-lessons-spread-UK-Christians-join-conservative-Muslims.html

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  17th May 2019

      I agree, let it take care of itself if and when it arises. For most people it’s a non-issue. As long as adults know what to do, that’s enough one would think.

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  2. David

     /  17th May 2019

    There has been some media excitement at Trump not signing up for Arderns call, I guess its Trump so it fits their theme. Funny there is no mention that the US never signs these things and didnt under St Obama:

    UNITED NATIONS — The United States says it was one of three countries to vote against a U.N. resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism over freedom of speech issues and concerns that Russia was using it to carry out political attacks against its neighbors.

    The resolution entitled “Combating glorification of Nazism, Neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance,” was approved by the U.N.’s human rights committee on Friday with 131 in favor, 3 against with 48 abstentions. ”

    The US has a constitution and its a sovereign country.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  17th May 2019

      Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern the”moral” leader of the free world…just saying

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  17th May 2019

    What a laugh,National turning to God to get them back into power,Bridges will be humming”in God we trust” and bibles will start appearing on top of the blue boxes,but has anyone spoken to the Pacifica voters,NAH or the Maori,both are not inclined to back National

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    • Corky

       /  17th May 2019

      The Christian vote is large. Look at the support Colin Craig had. Don’t write this move off yet.
      This could send our ”show boat” anti freedom PM to the opposition benches if successful.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  17th May 2019

        Showboat is Corky’s new word and will no doubt be flogged to death.

        Yes, Colin Craig did really well in the last election. His party won a total of 0 seats out of 120.

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  4. Corky

     /  17th May 2019

    US courts applying the hurt to Monsanto ( Bayer). I believe Roundup and new wheat varieties are to blame for many of today’s allergies. I listened to a boffin from Massey talking on the subject. He said Roundup ” probably” caused cancers, but nobody is sure. Well, if Roundup was an ”alternative medicine” it would be off the shelves quick smart.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-trial-cancer-dewayne-johnson-ruling

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    • phantom snowflake

       /  17th May 2019

      Roundup/Glyphosate represents a triumph of marketing over ethics, with many of the public swallowing the falsehood that it’s a harmless substance which breaks down on contact with the soil. I recall reading a study published in Soil & Health Magazine which found that it was detectable in the soil 1 to 2 years after application. It reminds me a bit of how Paracetamol is marketed as being very safe when it has been implicated in deaths from liver failure in infants, and can also result in a slow and gruesome death for adults who overdose.

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      • Corky

         /  17th May 2019

        Yes, quite true. When Roundup first hit our shores retailers were told this was the new miracle weed killer. As you say, the product was touted as breaking down in the soil…so, no worries chaps.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  17th May 2019

          If the ‘boffin’ was Dr Kerry Harrington, he said no such thing, of course. He’s the only one from Massey that I have heard commenting on it.

          It needs to be used properly, of course, like anything else. If people don’t take the proper precautions, that’s their look out.

          Anyone who gives adult doses of paracetomol or anything else to a baby is an idiot. The fact that an overdose of something can kill a person doesn’t mean that the thing is dangerous in the recommended dosage.

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          • phantom snowflake

             /  17th May 2019

            Unfortunately there will always be a few parents who accidentally overdose their child due to mathematical errors or having forgotten a dose they have administered. (Not everyone is as smart as you or I!) My point is that much of the public are not aware just how serious overdosing a child with Paracetamol is, relative to overdosing with other drugs, as it has been so successfully marketed as a “safe” medication.

            A recent study found paracetamol to be the leading cause of liver failure in children in Australia and New Zealand. The researchers identified 54 cases of liver failure in two children’s hospitals between 2002 and 2012, 14 of these cases were related to paracetamol overdose, and 12 were in children under five years old.
            https://www.abc.net.au/health/features/stories/2014/10/30/4118124.htm

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  17th May 2019

              How far can one go to protect fools from themselves? It IS safe when used in the recommended dose. I think that there’s a weaker version for children. If I know that an overdose is dangerous, it must be common knowledge…it says on the packet that the dose is X every Y hours.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  17th May 2019

              The bottom line: When administered to young children, Paracetamol carries a higher risk of serious harm than most other medications, and most people are unaware of this.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  17th May 2019

        Detectable is not a relevant quality. The issue is whether it is active. Many things are detectable but are not at active levels or states.

        Many things can cause cancers including just being unlucky. The test is whether they do at a significant rate. The evidence on Roundup seems weak.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  17th May 2019

    I will worry for you Corky if Bridges appears next Monday to be roasted by Garner holding a bible,gods not going to save you Simon

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  17th May 2019

      Dog yoga ? That is a lovely photo. Mine is walking to the door and back so as to be given a treat. He was rewarded for coming back in when called as a puppy, so learned a racket of going to the door and back and expecting a reward for doing so.

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