EU election results

The official results website:

This shows some changes away from larger centre right and centre left parties, but not a big overall shift.

This is pretty astonishing. BBC projects that the Liberals/Green/Left/Social Democrats will have 359 seats in EU parliament, vs 358 seats in the previous one.

The populists-nationalists seem to have gained ~35 seats but overall the non-centrist right is up by only about 19, probably in large part driven by the collapse of the UK Conservatives.

Clearly the main centre-left and centre-right factions have weakened a lot. But this is a *party political* problem, so why do we report it as a change in the hearts and minds of voters? What’s amazing to me is how consistent broad political opinion looks, in both directions.

Here’s that populism word again.

Farage is talking tough, but Brexit is still going to be a tough thing to sort out.

Previous Post
Leave a comment

25 Comments

  1. MaureenW

     /  27th May 2019

    Populism appears to refer to any politician who isn’t on the same agenda that’s been followed by those seeking an Open Society and more globalism at the detriment of individual countries and their citizens. Great that iPhones are cheaper, pity about that house.
    The items that used to be luxuries are now commodities, while essentials like affordable housing are luxuries and out of reach for more and more people.

    Reply
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  27th May 2019

      It’s not just the houses that are out of reach but the jobs building and maintaining them that have been regulated out of existence. You now need a Government licence to pick up a hammer and a scaffolding company instead of a ladder.

      Reply
      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  27th May 2019

        On the other hand, to fix a pothole used to take a guy with a ute and a shovel about 15 minutes. Now it’s a three hour project for three trucks, eight men and about a thousand road cones.

        Reply
        • We have cones and road works warning signs on our street. We are the only house that is past them (a dead end street). And it’s warning us out works on another road that has been worked on for months, and we drive it multiple times most days. And any visitors pass the road works before they get to our place and then head away to see the warning signs.

          Where the actual road works are happening there is of course a more signs before and after, and cones all over the place.

          Reply
        • MaureenW

           /  28th May 2019

          Don’t forgot the hundreds of people involved with agreeing, negotiating, qa-ing, managing, administering, supporting and executing the contracts that enable those roadies to get in their trucks and fix those potholes.

          Reply
          • Duker

             /  28th May 2019

            The councils have pre selected contractors, who they call on for small projects. Only the multi million dollar projects are handled like that…which was always the case.
            I well remember the big bypass of the central North Island town when I lived there. Lovely plans in detail showing over bridges and under passes. Must have been millions spent in the preliminary design phase. It was all a mirage by national party as what they promised before the election was cancelled
            by them afterwards. It was like all the school and hospital rebuilds, promises were far bigger than the budgets, some schools have been promised the same ‘rebuild’ through multiple elections, and now of course construction costs are sky high.

            Reply
      • Patzcuaro

         /  28th May 2019

        I can understand the safety side of the workplace based on the government paying for the cost of accidents via ACC.

        Reply
        • Patzcuaro

           /  28th May 2019

          Fixing potholes on the road to the European elections, meanwhile back in old Blighty, they are trying to fill in the Grand Canyon.

          Reply
        • Duker

           /  28th May 2019

          “workplace based on the government paying for the cost of accidents via ACC”

          No it doesnt . ACC is funded by employers for accidents at work, registration and petrol fees fund injuries in motor vehicles.
          A small portion of peoples income tax is set aside as a levy for accidents outside of work or motor vehicles.
          the government only funds the non work levies for beneficiaries.
          The ACC reserve funds for future payments – mainly income based on your job at the time- now are about $30 bill. Thats ACC money not the governments, what they call a ‘lock box’

          Reply
      • Duker

         /  28th May 2019

        “You now need a Government licence to pick up a hammer ”

        No you dont , its only required for a ‘site supervisor’ – still can employ ‘hammer hands’ to do a lot of the work under the direct supervision of the guy or woman with a license- Who are now of course culpable for any problems with the work.

        Reply
        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  28th May 2019

          A lot of the little guys just retired rather than go thru the bureaucratic hoops of getting a licence which just played into the hands of the big corporates as usual with Lefty legislation and regulations – creating and protecting the monopolies we know and love. Especially a job killer in rural areas.

          Reply
          • Griff.

             /  28th May 2019

            They can get grandfathered Alan in fact I know quite a few who have no qualifications and do have a building practitioner license .
            And yes it happens in the wop wops.
            Both my nieghbour and the guy who runs stock on my land are licensed builders and neither did an apprenticeship or formal training in the trade.

            The scheme is competency based. Competent builders and tradespeople with a good track record can have their skills and knowledge formally recognised, whether they are trade-qualified or not. A number of people without formal trade qualifications have already been assessed as competent and have their licences.
            https://www.lbp.govt.nz/become-an-lbp/

            Reply
  2. Reply
  3. Zedd

     /  28th May 2019

    Great to see the Greens increase 🙂
    ‘sign-of-the-times’

    Reply
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  28th May 2019

      Just socialists changing the colour of their flag, Zedd. Still the same urge to control everyone else.

      Reply
      • Zedd

         /  28th May 2019

        sez AW 😀

        btw: methinks you.. need to realise that Greens are about the Environment; first.. the whole ‘loony left’/commie/socialist thinking (that you still prattle on about) went out with the 20th century… after the Berlin Wall came down in 1989 !

        Reply
        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  28th May 2019

          Here you are, Zedd. Why Greens are the greatest killers of the modern age:
          https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/

          Reply
          • Zedd

             /  28th May 2019

            maybe.. we should deal with REALITY Alan ?

            as opposed to ‘Lets just twist the data, to fit their money, Money, MONEY.. first to last; Tory agenda’ :/

            Reply
            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  28th May 2019

              You could of course address the facts instead of waving your arms in the air while putting on your blinkers, Zedd.

            • Griff.

               /  28th May 2019

              Fact is linking to WUWT suggest you have no idea about critical thinking.

              We seem to have a case of Right wing whacko time warp
              DDT was banned for use in agriculture in 1972.
              Do tell us when the Green party started? Any green party globally in existence before say 1990 will do.

              The rant you linked to at LOLWUWT claims it’s use was stopped for fighting malaria.
              Guess what?
              It is still used today to fight malaria.
              What they did stop was indiscriminate mass spraying because a bio accumulative poison is not really what you want in your living environment or your mothers milk.

              How funny the right and reality so often clash.
              Reality wins every time.

              The issues with DDT is far more complex
              But way above your abilty to understand anything due to your ideologically induced DK.
              http://www.worldwatch.org/node/517

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  28th May 2019

              Hit a sore spot did I, Griff? Yes, the DDT ban killings were inspired and maintained by the radical environmentalists who first became an organised political party as Die Grunen in 1980. We hosted their then leader, Petra Kelly, in Christchurch speaking in the Chch Town Hall in the early 80’s. From recollection the DDT ban followed publication and promotion of Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring”.

            • Griff.

               /  28th May 2019

              ROFl
              Again slowly Alan in the hope you can cope .
              Your timeline .
              1962 silent spring published USA.
              1972 DDT banned for agriculture USA.
              1980 green party west Germany.
              See the problem?
              Here is a hint.
              No green party was around when they banned DTT in the USA

              Your source was gibbering that DDT is banned for use against Mosquito’s.
              It is not and never has been and it is still used as a contract insecticide as endorsed by the WHO in some circumstance.
              What they did stop is Indiscriminate spraying.

              it only takes a few years for mossy to build up immunity to DDT anyway so any ban real or imagined was not an issue by the time silent spring came out. Mossys in target areas were already immune to DDT by 1972 .
              The DDT ban gibbering is just wingnut hippy punching aimed at the typical low info wackos who read and believe the likes of WUWT.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  28th May 2019

              Just to correct your usual frothing, Griff, the source publication was the Institute of Economic Affairs.

              https://iea.org.uk/publications/research/malaria-and-the-ddt-story

            • Zedd

               /  28th May 2019

              thx for comments Griff

              methinks Alan is just ‘jumping on the green-haters bandwagon’… because he can’t accept that his ‘outdated evidence’ is just PURE bunkum.. no point in wasting time on it (IMHO) :/

  4. Duker

     /  28th May 2019

    Some of the shifts are just the swap in France from Hollandes S&D to Macron with Liberals (ALDE)
    Still very difficult to get some real numbers.

    Reply

Leave a Reply to Patzcuaro Cancel reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s