Hager’s whistle blowing versus Slater’s character assassinations

In other words, public good versus private vendetta. That’s something that seems to escape the hypocritical folk at Whale Oil.

Cameron Slater kept hypocritically complaining about being hacked, when he is guilty of the worst breach of privacy and publication of private data that I have seen in the protracted character assassination of Matthew Blomfield.

And SB keeps flying the dirty flag at Whale Oil. Yesterday in What Bridges should have done:

Nicky Hager worked hand in glove with the criminal hacker Rawshark to steal Whaleoil’s private and personal information and will forever be associated with criminal activity because of it.

Was the hit on the government really worth it? I don’t think that it was. He now looks as dirty as Hager and for what real benefit?

As far as I know that is an unsubstantiated claim, and I think it is false. I haven’t seen any evidence that Hager had anything to do with stealing Slater’s private and personal information. As I understand it, Rawshark hacked, so substantial material of public interest – Slater’s collusion with the Prime Minister’s office to attack political opponents, and him being paid to run character assassinations on variety of people, including political candidates (his dirty mercenary interference in candidate selection was alarming but seemingly largely allowed by National).

I have always had reservations about hacking for political purposes, but I haven’t seen any evidence that that was the motivation for Rawshark hacking Cameron Slater’s private information. As I understand it, the data was hacked, Rawshark saw some information of public interest (and it was), so handed some data over to Hager to expose it.

I think it was unfortunate that the Dirty Politics book was released just before an election campaign, so it didn’t get the sort of in depth attention it deserved. But at least it did clip Slater’s wings somewhat as he quickly became politically toxic.

Ignored so far this week at Whale Oil (which suggests heavy censorship, they can’t all be loyal sock puppets) is the launch of the book ‘Whale Oil’.

This details how Slater (helped extensively by Marc Spring) used Matthew Blomfield’s private data that like the Rawshark data may or may not have been obtained illegally to run an extensive campaign of character assassination over several months, and continued in the years afterwards ( I saw what I believe may have been Spring continuing this online this week).

This was an extremely nasty campaign, and was found by the Privacy Commissioner (alarmingly taking about 4 years) to have breached privacy. Slater only was fined for that.

Judges also ruled that the data was probably stolen and maliciously posted online and copied and distributed.

The 6-7 year defamation case Blomfield versus Slater ended up finding that later made things up (lied), he misrepresented, and he had no defence.

Spring (I believe) also kept posting false claims – for example he repeatedly claimed that Blomfield was delaying proceedings, when it was Slater who was doing all sorts of things to delay and avoid and stop the proceedings. And also promoted similar misinformation as Slater.

So…

While it is debatable about the legality of hacking Slater’s data, Hager’s Dirty Politics book was a largely accurate exposure of not just dirty politics but also dirty paid for character assassinations. I think the public good outweighed the breach of privacy.

In comparison Slater (and Spring and others) seriously breached privacy, and went on an extensive campaign cherry picking data and misrepresenting and distorting and lying in an effort to trash Blomfield’s private and business life. Judges ruled there was no public interest. It was dirty and despicable.

And it is just the worst of many examples of many character assassination attempts by Slater.

Now SB is playing a common trick of Slater et al – blaming others for what they are guilty of. “He now looks as dirty as Hager” is laughable. Hager is far from universally admired, but he is widely admired for the work he has done over the years. You can argue about some of his campaigns, but I don’t think you can argue about his decency and good intent.

I think that few would argue about the lack of decency in Slater’s many attacks on people. He brags about being a dirty nasty arsehole (not in those exact words). Whale Oil promotes it’s dirty MO ‘rules’.

Slater and Whale Oil are likely to be remembered for Dirty Politics, and now for the book Whale Oil far more than SB’s hypocrisy and unsubstantiated claims She is trying to shift that dirt elsewhere and play the victim, but I think that the stains at Whale run far too deep for that work.

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  1. Blazer

     /  31st May 2019

    Slater and co are supparating sores on the face of…humanity.

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  2. alloytoo

     /  31st May 2019

    I offer no support of Slater, he has to answer for his own behaviour, however:

    Hager received stolen private material, sat on it for a year, and released it only after he had edited all his mates names out.

    That is neither ethical, nor is it journalism.

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    • Blazer

       /  31st May 2019

      and what you have stated is not fact…merely your jaundiced …assumptions.

      Hager has been vindicated and compensated.

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      • alloytoo

         /  31st May 2019

        1. Hager has admitted to received illegally (stolen) material.
        2. Hager waited a year before releasing it a book.
        3. Hager admitted to editing out the names of Left leaning individuals.

        What facts are in dispute?

        The actions of the police in this matter have nothing to do with the ethics of Hager, mostly because he has none and I have a genuine respect for the police.

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        • Duker

           /  31st May 2019

          . Hager has admitted to received illegally (stolen) material.
          Slater took it to the High Court and the judge ruled the political stuff was ‘in the public interest’ while the private/personal stuff wasnt . Hager followed that
          2. Hager waited a year before releasing it a book.
          So what . Do you think books write themselves, hager had to make a living while writing the book and yes it was on sale a week before the election because it showed from ‘transcripts’ that the national party from the very top and inside the PMS beehive offices was playing dirty politics with its stable of right wing bloggers Slate, Farrer and others while hiding behind the curtain. Hager pulled back the curtain.
          Some of hagers analysis was wrong but essentailly the facts were their . Ede did work for Key providing dirt against his opponents ( Slater had his own side campaigns for others) while covering nationals involvement.
          3 Hager admitted to editing out the names of Left leaning individuals.
          Its his book. Publishers might have given a page limit. That Slayer had wide contacts and some on the left wing are likely but most would be from the Roger Douglas branch of the labour party – mostly moved to ACT or National! The reality the labour party was the subject of the dirty politics orchestrated by national through Farrar Slater and others . Keeping Stock /Tony Stuart blogger shut down his blog immediately as of course he relied on his ‘ feed ‘from Ede

          I have long suspected that Hosking is another recipient of material to attack Nationals opponents, but he wouldnt be the only one . Its a long tradition in the media in NZ to ‘mould opinion makers’ with inside information. But previously it had a basis of facts,

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          • alloytoo

             /  31st May 2019

            So you don’t actually dispute any of the facts.

            You just don’t like my conclusion.

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          • Trevors_Elbow

             /  1st June 2019

            So Duker an illegal action – hacking, theft – is all ok as long as its dressed in the Public Good defense? The hacking wasn’t a random act, it was planned and part of a broad political plan to try and manipulate an election.

            I have little time for Slater. He is a bully and a self admitted one.

            But Hager is the worst kind of self appointed, trust fund funded, conscious of the world type – a true zealot in my view.

            The fact he gave certain individuals a chance by not naming them in his’expose’ says everything about him, his running mates and his supporters…

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            • Blazer

               /  1st June 2019

              Helen Clark called him a little ‘creep’…’Corn gate’…hardly protecting the …left.

  3. duperez

     /  31st May 2019

    I remember a story. Turns out to be from 2014 about an article written about Slater and his father in 2010.

    We’re lucky to have a couple of kids. Normal, nice people it seems. High achievers. They were easy to raise and I often wondered about having different raw material to work with. I often thought about the transitory nature of events and so-called crises in the random thing of growth and development and experience.

    Someone called David Slack wrote in Metro about Slater snr and son.

    The father: “He’s 40 years old but some days I look at him and I still see the kid who came home from school with a sore bum and a story to tell.
    He was 11. Some little bugger had copied his work and they’d both got a D. I said to him, Did you put around some rumours about him? That’s how we do it in the party? He said, No way. I whacked him, then I got on his desk, pulled down my trousers and dumped on his books.
    Well that wasn’t my way, but I thought good on him. He got stuck in.”

    Then, “He’s had a bit of bad luck, of course. An insurance company that didn’t understand him. A business partner who wouldn’t get on his wavelength. Even the party gave him the bum’s rush at the last conference. Amazing when you think about it, how often he’s come up against some idiot. Again and again.”

    I’m pleased our kids haven’t had bad luck, insurance companies that didn’t understand them, partners who wouldn’t get on their wavelength, organisations they belong to given them the bums rush and often coming up some idiot. Again and again. I’m pleased they haven’t had the legal system continually find against them too. They’re probably pleased that they don’t have a father who’d be so proud of their boldness in dealing with someone they disagreed with they’d he’d see positives in them as 11 year olds shitting in a classroom desk and tell the world about it.

    A day after being at a funeral and ruminating on “a life well led” it’s interesting to consider where the pathos lies.

    Is it in and about the individual or in the collective who couldn’t see the tragedy, and worse, could see it yet encouraged it to happen?

    Our Friends: Cameron and John Slater, by David Slack
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/tag/cameron-slater/page/16/

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  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  31st May 2019

    Hager looks good compared with Slater but everything is relative. I don’t have much time for him either.

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    • alloytoo

       /  31st May 2019

      Apparently Hager is some sort of hero because he directed his nasty behaviour against a nastier character.

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      • Blazer

         /  31st May 2019

        no Hager shone a light on Nationals dedicated black ops ….a new low in NZ politics.

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        • Duker

           /  31st May 2019

          Im pretty sure Slater wasnt helping out the Nats in those days for nothing, his business model was to only get out of bed for money.
          Food & Grocery Council , Catherine Rich and Carrick Graham are all in the court dock over their business arrangements with the Oilman

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        • alloytoo

           /  31st May 2019

          And carefully omitted all his mates.

          That’s activism, not journalism.

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