13 June 2019
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Pete George
/ 13th June 2019Negative Kiwibuild stories seem to be fairly normal these days.
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th June 2019It’s hard to imagine what could be said about the KB that is positive.
Pete George
/ 13th June 2019http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1583/The-National-security-panic-Brtooke-Barrington-Andrew-Hampton-ODESC-Gabriel-Makhlouf-GCSB-cyber-security.htm
Duker
/ 13th June 2019Isnt that overblown …the story I read said some 5 eyes partners contacted NZ to see if they needed help
this is the standard of the story , which seems written by a 10 yr old
“In fact, national had simply found a part of the Treasury website which had no security login and password lock on it.”
No they hadnt . They had indexed the confidentail budget documents ahead of their full release. The search didnt give the material but it gave a phrase around the keyword being searched for.
Passwords didnt come into it!
It appears that GCSB had contacted people in national , who told them what they did, as of course GCSB works on the foreign intrusions via networks side of things . No internal search engines.
It seems to that national has been briefed on what the GCSB was telling Little. SECURITY BREACH right there
Geoffrey
/ 13th June 2019I watched the TV1 News last night and learnt that some children under four had contracted measles and as a result the MMR vaccine was being proffered to children as young as one year (down from 15 months). Not stated were the numbers of those children who had had the vaccination but still succumbed to the infection; how many children under the age of 15 months had contracted the disease; and what additional risks were involved in further lowering the age of vaccination..
Unless these basic questions are addressed, the solution to the “epidemic” looks to be little more than an ad campaign for drug companies. Concerned parents need much better information upon which to base their vaccination choices.
TV1 needs to lift its game.
David
/ 13th June 2019Unless you are a doctor or scientist best you stay on whatever weird facebook group the fringe anti vaccer nutters hang out and keep your loopy views there.
Geoffrey
/ 13th June 2019I rather hoped for a more informed discussion than this rant from a bloke attacking the messenger while ignoring the message.
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th June 2019The risks of measles are too well known to need me to repeat them. I had mumps badly at about 11 and still remember standing howling with pain as I tried to cross the room and every movement was agony. At that age, crying was shaming but I couldn’t help it.
My child; My choice ? I would hate to think that parents would choose that for a child.
Geoffrey
/ 13th June 2019Kitty, there was I assume a scientific reason for the previously set minimum age for vaccinating against measles. Has the recent outbreak included a number of children below that age? If so, is the risk from the incidence of that infection of that group greater than the defined risk from the vaccination and how has this been determined? If not, why has the reduced age been proposed?
These are basic questions which I think TV1 should have posed. That is why I challenged their journalistic thoroughness on this site, rather than a true anti-vaccer might use.
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th June 2019There were some under-age children with existing health conditions who were living in isolation as catching measles could kill them.
I would guess that the risk of the effects of measles on a baby has been determined to be much greater than the risk of the vaccine. It’s not a decision that’s been taken lightly.
One young mother was living in the hills with her baby; I think that that was the one with leukaemia.
Geoffrey
/ 13th June 2019Thank you for engaging Kitty. Sadly though, you have drifted off into speculation which, I suggest could have been forestalled if TV1 had reported the issue with sufficient precision.
On this forum, I am not in the game of being for or against vaccination: just expressing the view that parents are entitled to have access to solid science-based information upon which their decision can be formulated.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th June 2019It wasn’t speculation, it was an educated guess, and I wasn’t doing anything sadly.
The age for vaccination is determined by the body’s abiltity to make the best use of the vaccine (an unscientific way of putting it) In this case, the child is still a bit young for the optimal effectiveness, but as the dangers of measles are so great. the reason for the vax being given earlier must be because the lesser risk is outweighed by the greater one.
So my guess was right. it would appear.
Geoffrey
/ 15th June 2019Had the news item been more fully informative, the need to speculate would not have arisen and parental decisions could have more confidently been made.
Kitty Catkin
/ 15th June 2019Well, one would know that there was a good reason, and one doesn’t need to be a doctor to work out what it is; the urgent need to save the lives of babies. The parents would be fully informed, ca va sans dire.
artcroft
/ 13th June 2019Its tough to be a student these days as student halls ban drinking past 10pm and force students and their friends who want to keep drinking outdoors. Luckily the student union is on to it.
“Victoria University Student Association president Tamatha Paul had previously urged councillors to consider the dangers of forcing students out of the park into dimly lit and unmonitored areas.”
I imagine Ms Paul is already planning on her career as a Labour MP post university.
No word in the article on who is forcing these cherubs to drink past 10pm.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/113408317/victoria-university-slammed-for-inadvertently-promoting-binge-drinking-by-kicking-student-partygoers-out-of-halls
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th June 2019The old ‘slam’ cliche again…
The obvious answer is not to drink to the extent that you become helpless. Nobody is forcing the students to do this anywhere and Ms Paul is using very dodgy logic.
If you think that drinking in unmonitored dark places is dangerous….don’t do it.
They must be very dainty wee petals at Vic now; we were a tougher lot, I think.
Pete George
/ 13th June 2019