Sexuality, statistics, and blog ignorance and intolerance

Sexuality is talked a lot more these days. This is generally a good thing, although not when it’s like this:

Juana Atkins (SB) at Whale Oil:  Human Rights Commission Goes ‘Full Retard’

The Human Rights Commission have created a ridiculous engagement survey that lists various mental disorders as genders for participants to choose from. Instead of being asked if the participant is male or female they list no less than TEN options to choose from.

So what are the ten choices that the ‘woke’ Human Rights Commission have included as made up genders to choose from?

  • Male
  • Female
  • Transgender
  • Takatapui
  • Genderfluid
  • Non-binary
  • Agender
  • Don’t know
  • Prefer not to say
  • Self-describe

Six of the gender options in the survey are completely made up. One option is that the person doesn’t know what gender they are and the other is that they would prefer not to say. There is zero scientific or biological basis to the six other options. They are lies and falsehoods created to make those who suffer from a mental disorder feel that their delusion is real.

Read my lips. There are only two genders, male and female.

This is both arrogant and ignorant, unless Atkins is deliberately stirring up intolerance.

Oxford dictionary:


1  Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

1.1 Members of a particular gender considered as a group

1.2 The fact or condition of belonging to or identifying with a particular gender.

Wikipedia: Gender

Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e., the state of being male, female, or an intersex variation), sex-based social structures (i.e., gender roles), or gender identity.

Most cultures use a gender binary, having two genders (boys/men and girls/women);[4] those who exist outside these groups fall under the umbrella term non-binary or genderqueer.

Historically, many if not most societies have recognized only two distinct, broad classes of gender roles, a binary of masculine and feminine, largely corresponding to the biological sexes of male and female.

However, some societies have historically acknowledged and even honored people who fulfill a gender role that exists more in the middle of the continuum between the feminine and masculine polarity. For example, the Hawaiian māhū, who occupy “a place in the middle” between male and female, or the Ojibwe ikwekaazo, “men who choose to function as women”, or ininiikaazo, “women who function as men”.

The hijras of India and Pakistan are often cited as third gender. Another example may be the muxe found in the state of Oaxaca, in southern Mexico. The Bugis people of Sulawesi, Indonesia have a tradition that incorporates all the features above.

In addition to these traditionally recognized third genders, many cultures now recognize, to differing degrees, various non-binary gender identities. People who are non-binary (or genderqueer) have gender identities that are not exclusively masculine or feminine. They may identify as having an overlap of gender identities, having two or more genders, having no gender, having a fluctuating gender identity, or being third gender or other-gendered.

Recognition of non-binary genders is still somewhat new to mainstream Western culture, and non-binary people may face increased risk of assault, harassment, and discrimination.

In her post Atkins promoted harassment and discrimination, and both were evident in the comments on her post. The first comment:

I think a lot of people are getting very tired of a small minority inflicting this time wasting insanity on the majority and would like an “F Off” option.

That appears to breach WO commenting rules, but they apply them selectively.

The HRC Community Engagement stated:

The purpose of the Human Rights Commission (HRC) is to promote and protect human rights of all people in Aotearoa New Zealand. We work for a free, fair, safe and just New Zealand, where diversity is valued, and human dignity and rights are respected.

That should include the right to choose individuals to choose what gender they identify with, and to not be subject to the imposition of rigid binary gender options, or to be ridiculed, abused and demeaned by those who are intolerant of differences.

People who feel their gender doesn’t fit within a rigid male/female construct are in a small minority, but they face difficulties due to discrimination and worse from the majority.

Statistics NZ: New sexual identity wellbeing data reflects diversity of New Zealanders

For the first time, wellbeing data for people of different sexual identities has been collected as part of the 2018 General Social Survey (GSS), Stats NZ said today.

This information is an important step towards better reflecting the diversity across New Zealand in official statistics.

A person’s sexual identity is how they think of their own sexuality and which terms they identify with.

  • 96.5% identifying as heterosexual or straight
  • 1.9% identifying as bisexual
  • 1.1% identifying as gay/lesbian
  • 0.5% identified as other identities (includes terms such as takatāpui, asexual, pansexual, others)

3.5% seems a small number, but that equates to about 168,000 people in New Zealand.

And it looks like it could increase as strict as oppressive legal and social pressures continue to change.

By age group:

  • 18-24: 0.8% gay/lesbian, 5.4% bisexual (total 6.4%)
  • 24-44: 1.5% gay/lesbian, 2.6% bisexual (total 4.1%)
  • 45-64: 1.2% gay/lesbian, 0.9% bisexual (total 2.1%)
  • 65+: 0.6% gay/lesbian, 0.1% bisexual (total 0.7%)

The higher total numbers in the 18-24 age group are probably due to different factors, including reducing social pressures on being ‘different’, and greater experimentation as young adults.

Most of those identifying as bisexual when young seem to decide on heterosexual  as they get older.

It is likely these numbers are also affected by different life risks and expectancies.

Higher levels of discrimination are not surprising, but it’s not as high as I thought it would be.

Discriminated against in the last year:

  • 39% of bisexual people
  • 34% of gay/lesbian people
  • 16% of of people identifying as straight or heterosexual

Heterosexual people feeling discriminated against may seem odd, but comments at WO give some indication as to why this may be:

By giving groups additional rights they in fact create other groups with fewer rights. Gay people, black people, women all get special privileges and whenever a new group self identifies they get additional rights. Human rights are individual, and apply to everyone.

They aren’t given ‘additional rights’, they are given rights that the majority have enjoyed.

What about pale, stale and male rights, perhaps we should not be compelled to die on the battlefield protecting everyone else rights?

I doubt that AWB has risked their life on a battlefield protecting anyone’s rights, let alone minority rights.

Other findings:

  • Bisexual people less satisfied with life
  • One-third of bisexual people report poor mental wellbeing
  • Gay/lesbian and bisexual people find it harder to express their identity
  • Gay/lesbian people the most socially connected with friends and less lonely

David Farrar posted on it at Kiwiblog: Stats Sexuality data – he stated facts and little else, but comments were heavily leaning towards intolerance and abuse, as well as claiming to be victims.

‘the deity formerly known as nigel6888’:

So we are turning over all of society for precisely nobody’s benefit

Good oh!

These weirdos can’t even manage 1% but we let them drive social policy. Remarkable!


And all this PC BS for such small numbers. Why? All in the name of inclusiveness as espoused by our PM perhaps?
What a joke! Don’t forget, some of our laws are written around such garbage, not to mention the dreaded ‘hate speech’.


Yeah. It isn’t cool to be known as straight, white, or male anymore.

So, I suspect a lot of young people would answer any way to avoid those options.

93.6% of young people surveyed didn’t avoid the straight option. I think it’s more likely that non-binary gender options are under-represented.


So why are we wasting so much money on homosexuals and other associated weirdos putting things into place to placate them?

Comments at Kiwiblog seem to have moved further towards a small minority of recently disaffected and increasingly grumpy people, mostly males. They are far from representative of the general population, but intolerance of differences in sexuality is still rife in some pockets of society.

Fortunately there’s a lot more understanding and tolerance of differences in sexuality generally these days, especially in Parliament, in the Public Service and in law.

Consenting adults should be free to choose their sexuality free from discrimination and abuse.

Personally I have always felt straight or heterosexual, but I’m happy to let others choose for themselves what their sexuality or gender is to them.

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  1. Exactly, male and female

    • And hermaphrodites who are a bit of both.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  29th June 2019

        Three people don’t know what a hermaphrodite is. The word is (as should be obvious) from Hermes and Aphrodite and means that the person’s genitalia are ambiguous. This can mean having testes and ovaries. Look it up, PDTs, you might learn something.

        There are hermaphrodites in the animal kingdom as well.

        I am surprised that anyone doesn’t know what the word means. It has been around long enough !

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  29th June 2019

          It’s been around for 700 years, so it may be understandable that the PDTs have not caught up with this word.

  2. Grumpy

     /  29th June 2019

    Unfortunately. As the Folau case has prove, tolerance only goes one way. It is no coincidence that in countries that have introduced “hate speech” laws, the first prosecutions were against members of the gay community,

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th June 2019

      Where and when ? And what ?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  29th June 2019

        The Folau case proves that he is a judgemental prat and too mean to spend his own millions to defend his case.

        I could find no evidence to support your claim.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  29th June 2019

          Where have gays been the first ones prosecuted for hate speech ?

    • No amount of googling has shown that there is anything like this happening.

      Downticking is not an answer, PDTs.

      If this is the case (gays being the first to be prosecuted) then provide a link, at least, to back it up.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  29th June 2019

    Surely it would be sensible to distinguish physical gender from emotional sexuality?

    Entangling them seems just a pointless recipe for trouble.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th June 2019

      I think so and would even say ‘worse than pointless’.

      All the gay people whom I know well are either male or female as far as bits go. I have known a few trans people who felt as if they were in the wrong body as far as sex went..

      Some of the names on the list seem like synonyms.

  4. duperez

     /  29th June 2019

    Am I surprised that Juana Atkins is so dramatically affected by what the Human Rights Commission is doing about sexuality? That what people say about their own sexuality has a big impact on her? That she manages to find something someone is doing is going “Full Retard”?

    It brings to mind the old thing about lying on one’s deathbed wishing you’d spent more time at work.
    “How did you spend the best years of your life my daughter?”
    “I spent them worrying about other people’s sexuality and getting my knickers in a twist and tits in a tangle about that.”

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th June 2019

      She doesn’t realise that we can’t read her lips unless she’s in front of us, which, thank fortune, she is not.

      I think that the HRC are doing a bit of nitpicking and navel-gazing, but her ignorant statement that there are only two sexes; man and woman is beyond belief. How can any adult be unaware that there are children born who are not obviously either or have characteristics of both sexes.

  5. Wow just wow

     /  30th June 2019

    Sorry I’m not that good at reading the question, but they want me to tell them what I’d like to have sex with and if I’m a bit mentally damaged.
    If I can be so creative with the truth on this question the rest of the survey just won’t matter.

  6. NOEL

     /  1st July 2019

    They were holding one of those gender awareness briefings in a friends workplace. After the instructor got to listing the 12th gender type one person rolled his eyes and put up his hand and asked “to make it easier couldn’t I just use the persons name”

  7. Good piece of research and reporting, Your NZ. I’ve shared it on Twitter and Facebook.

  8. sarineal

     /  2nd July 2019

    Definition one collapses sex and gender together and introduces the idea of identities and definition two tries to disengage them, sex is not necessarily the link and it introduces the idea of ‘gender identity’. This is not defined nor is able to be measured, but we are expected to accept that the notion of identity exists none the less. One definition is from the Oxford dictionary, the other Wikipedia with its known flaws.

    Sex is either female, the sex that produces large gametes and bears the young, or male, the sex that produces small gametes. Some people have disorders which can be endocrine, chromosomal or congenital which affect the reproductive system but this doesn’t mean they don’t have a sex, and in fact many of the conditions can only happen in males and females respectively. Sex cannot be changed in humans.

    So in reality while people might claim certain identities like non-binary they are really are talking about their identification with gender constructs or stereotypes, none of which truly fit us as individuals anyway. Sex protections in law actually protect people that don’t conform to gender constructs or stereotypes, that is the whole point. If women acted according to the gender stereotypes earlier in the 19th century, they’d not work outside of the home, while men held the public domain and if they did, their work would be half the value and any funds brought in belong to their spouse if they were married.

    The HRC seems to be rather confused also as they call it “sexual identity” and this is supposed to be “how they think of their own sexuality and which terms they identify with.” But in reality three of them are sexual orientations tied to physical bodies, with lesbian being female same sex attraction, gay male same sex attraction, bisexual attracted to both sexes and heterosexual being a female attracted to a male and male attracted to females. Asexual could be put in that too, but it’s really covering the whole field. The rest are not sexual identities, but gender identities but the problem is other people nor their sex are identities, they are physical realities which affect their lives in different ways and unfortunately if you remove sex from the equation you negate those other identities (really sexual orientations) as they are dependent on that for definition as a group and to exercise their rights. So with this confusion, it’s doubtful it’s useful data and nor does it help those people that might choose to live their lives in different ways especially if they are struggling and finding life difficult.

    So anyway, they are wrong but probably not in the way they are described as being.

  9. One would recognize typical masculine behavior in males and typical feminine behavior in females. That is their gender. It’s even more obvious when it manifests in the opposite sex, so why deny transgender as a reality?
    The reality is that many actual transgender people would prefer just to pass unnoticed as the gender they choose to manifest as in daily life and we don’t all support the gender diversity politics.

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