Queen has approved suspension of UK Parliament

From Missy in London:


It’s all on now! The Government has asked the Queen to suspend Parliament shortly after they return from Summer recess with the Queen’s speech to be delivered on 14 October.

All eyes are on the Leader of the Opposition to see if he will call a vote of No Confidence next week, or bottle it again.

BBC:  Parliament to be suspended in September

Boris Johnson said a Queen’s Speech would take place after the suspension, on 14 October, to outline his “very exciting agenda”.

But it means the time MPs have to pass laws to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October would be cut.

House of Commons Speaker John Bercow said it was a “constitutional outrage”.

The Speaker, who does not traditionally comment on political announcements, continued: “However it is dressed up, it is blindingly obvious that the purpose of [suspending Parliament] now would be to stop [MPs] debating Brexit and performing its duty in shaping a course for the country.”

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said: “Suspending Parliament is not acceptable, it is not on. What the prime minister is doing is a smash and grab on our democracy to force through a no deal,” he said.

He said when MPs return to the Commons next Tuesday, “the first thing we’ll do is attempt legislation to prevent what [the PM] is doing”, followed by a vote of no confidence “at some point”.

The Privy Council have announced that the Queen has approved the suspension of Parliament.

Note, this is a long overdue suspension of Parliament, the current session is the longest Parliamentary session (time Parliament has sat without a speech from the throne) since the civil war, and is not that unusual.

There is some debate on social media regarding the suspension time, some suggest that it will only be an extra 3 or 4 days as Parliament would have been suspended for the Party Conference season in a couple of weeks, however, others suggest that this close to Brexit Parliament would have voted to continue sitting and not suspend Parliament. It seems the PM has gazumped those that may have tried to sit through the Conference season.

 

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  1. Ray

     /  29th August 2019

    This seems to sum the move up rather well.
    @HackedOffHugh: You will not fuck with my children’s future. You will not destroy the freedoms my grandfather fought two world wars to defend. Fuck off you over-promoted rubber bath toy. Britain is revolted by you and you little gang of masturbatory prefects. https://twitter.com/borisjohnson/status/1166668356906344449

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    • Missy

       /  29th August 2019

      It doesn’t sum the move up at all, it sums up the feelings of the over priveliged, self indulgent, elites who don’t care about the democratic process, but rather about getting their own way. I am not sure that Hugh Grant is a great constitutional expert, he is after all the person campaigning for a law that could put community newspapers out of business and will almost certainly censor what is reported.

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      • Duker

         /  29th August 2019

        Yes thats right . Complete ignorance from HG .
        “destroy the freedoms my grandfather fought two world wars to defend”
        Did he not look into Canadas 2 month prorogation by a minority government to defeat a possible no confidence vote AND Harper and Conservatives being replaced opposition coalition. That was a parliamentary trick, but those places are full of them , just like UK and NZ .

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        • Duker

           /  29th August 2019

          The weirdest claim , is that it will “Stop debate on Brexit”
          As though they havent been going round in circles on this for 18 months and every nuance and possibility voted on or not and with the Speaker openly having broken all the constitutional rules. ( he once was classed as a traditional Tory eurosceptic, that was before becoming Speaker- so some one was either bullshit before or now?)

          Play with fire and you get burnt.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th August 2019

      Don’t worry, Hugh, you’ll still be able to fop and flannel around.

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      • Duker

         /  29th August 2019

        Johnson’s primary aim is too leave with a deal but ditch the backstop. If EU won’t budge then leave will happen with no deal.
        I see many comments elsewhere who don’t realise that.
        As political management the remainers knew they were on a a hiding when the previous talk was a new referendum – the EU normal way to defeat the votes that go against them- changed to LEAVE no matter what.
        They are now switching the talk to constitutional outrage when the only change is 3 sitting days less in October. But the MPs will of course get a Queens Speech which if Johnson losses the vote he has to resign . That could still happen.
        But the movie luvvies will go all in on their rubbish talk.

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  2. Missy

     /  29th August 2019

    This I think sums up the situation much better than Hugh Grant, and comes from an actual journalist not some half rate actor whose best parts were in 90’s RomCom’s.

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  3. Missy

     /  29th August 2019

    Regarding Boris Johnson as PM, I will admit that despite liking him I was a bit ‘meh’ about him as a potential PM, I honestly thought he was too flaky, but if the last month is anything to go by he has proved me wrong.

    I am not sure if it is all Boris, or if it has come from his advisers, Ministers and their advisers, or come from elsewhere, but he has hit the ground running with an ambitious plan domestically, and a clear vision regarding Brexit. He has been underestimated by his opponents at almost every turn.

    If it is him, it shows he went into this job well prepared, if it is his advisers/Ministers it shows that he knows how to delegate, and that he trusts those he has delegated to, either way there is a sense of optimism among a lot of the population that has been missing for years.

    There is something about Boris that makes you believe, and even if what he is saying is BS, it is hard not to be buoyed by his air of optimistic cheerfulness, and yes I know it is mostly an act, but then Politics is as much about how people see you as it is about what you say.

    I will, of course, reserve full judgement to see how he does, but on the beginning he is definitely shaping up to be a better PM than I expected, and my initial thought that he would be installed just to get Brexit done may be incorrect.

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  4. Missy

     /  29th August 2019

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  5. Corky

     /  29th August 2019

    Do the deed, Boris. Many will hate you for it. But like MMP, 20 years down the track, you will be hard pressed to find those who vented against Britain leaving the EU.

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    • Duker

       /  29th August 2019

      Ask all those EU countries how their referendums that went against particular aspects of the EU Grand Designs went. ?
      They just fudged around them.
      Ask Norway how their NO vote against joining the EU went?
      They just fudged it and Norway is tied to EU , and only nominally not.
      That was how they wanted to work it for UK , nominally OUT ( especially as regard to a vote at the top tables) but IN in all other especially financial respects.
      Somehow the EU is a good thing for Europe ….because Germany kept invading France…. something had to be done. ?? In the old days Germany would have been dismembered back into smaller chunks.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  29th August 2019

    Sure beats watching May lose the same way every day.

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  7. Boris has finessed his Tory rebels beautifully: get into line on Brexit or be sacked from the party and cause a snap election which he will win. Brains and guts on display at last.

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    • Missy

       /  4th September 2019

      Indeed, they are due to have a crucial vote tonight regarding No Deal which Boris has made a conscious vote, any Conservative MP that votes against the Government will have the whip removed. If the Government loses the vote, as expected, Downing Street sources have said that Boris will table a motion for a General Election to be held on October 14, this will require a 2/3 majority to pass, and many of the opposition parties have said they will not vote for an election.

      Boris has backed the opposition into a corner, they have spent the last 2 months calling for an election so Boris can have a mandate, and when there is a good probability he will give them one they say they don’t want it, thus giving the Government a good propaganda win over the opposition.

      If there is an election it is speculated that Boris will present it as Parliament vs the People and he is the PM on the side of the people whist Corbyn will be the PM against the people.

      We will find out later tonight if the motion passes for the opposition to seize control of the House, if it does then a bill will be presented that essentially means that the PM will be required by law to 1. ask for an extension, and 2. accept any extension that the EU offers on whatever terms they offer, it has been called Corbyn’s surrender Bill. There is one small sub-clause saying that Parliament must agree to the EU extension, but as it was put in there by those wanting to cancel Brexit there isn’t much faith that they will decline it. Of course the UK could lobby a friendly Eurosceptic nation to veto the extension in the EU.

      This is a big week in the UK, and it looks most likely that there will be an election in 4-5 weeks. The one problem for the Conservatives is the Brexit Party which could split

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      • Duker

         /  4th September 2019

        We have had these soap opera cliff hanger stories in the media for it seems like years now. Will the deal pass or not….will May be ousted or …now will Johnson win this motion or not …which well lead to next weeks cliif hanger or not

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  4th September 2019

        The vote tonight passed by 27 vote margin so I presume 14 Tories defected. Seems the Govt has been held to ransome by this handful of Remainers for the past several years so high time they were expelled if they can’t support their own party or persuade it they have a valid case.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  4th September 2019

          Actually 21 rebels apparently. Either some just abstained or there were abstentions or cross-voting in favour of the Govt.

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          • Duker

             /  4th September 2019

            Only a ‘vote’, takes more than that to make it through all the stages and it’s repeated in house of Lord’s. Prorogation kills all legislation that isn’t passed all it’s stages and Johnson is going for election 15th October.
            Remainers have cut off their nose , as no legislation to stop no deal Brexit, and Commons is closed until after exit

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    • “Boris has finessed his Tory rebels beautifully: get into line on Brexit or be sacked from the party and cause a snap election which he will win. Brains and guts on display at last.”

      Sadly, no. No beautiful finessing any more… Only three embarrassing defeats in the Commons: as at this morning, the bill to block a no-deal Brexit has easily cleared its second and third readings and Johnson has failed in his attempt to force a snap general election.

      The only thing that Boris has achieved this week is to make Corbyn look statesmanlike.

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      • Corky

         /  5th September 2019

        Yet Britain is in reality closer to a Brexit deal.

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      • Black eye number 4 for Boris:

        The House of Lords has just voted in favour of getting the Benn bill ruling out a no-deal Brexit through all stages of parliament before it is suspended.

        So much for Boris’s finesse.

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        • Duker

           /  5th September 2019

          Option still exists for motion of no confidence in government to be indroduced, which Johnston ‘wants to lose’
          Simple majority of those voting against is all that is required to have Johnston ask the Queen for dissolution. ( not the 2/3 of all the House under this mornings motion)
          Sure its against convention for the PM to want to lose …maybe its been done before
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_votes_of_no_confidence_in_British_governments

          1979 Callaghan lost by ONE vote and the ensuing election led to Thatcher winning

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          • Duker

             /  5th September 2019

            The 1924 no confidence vote loss ( on a minor matter) meant a dissolution of parliament was requested and granted the next day

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          • Duker, that’s off-topic from my response to Alan, who claimed falsely as it transpired “Boris has finessed his Tory rebels beautifully: get into line on Brexit or be sacked from the party and cause a snap election which he will win. Brains and guts on display at last.”

            Sadly, no. No beautiful finessing. Just Bumbling Boris dying in a ditch.

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            • … and if Bumbling B can’t even keep his own brother in the party – let alone the 21 other conservatives he’s slung out – then how can he possibly gain the trust of the entire country.

              To think that we all laughed when Theresa May promised “strong and stable” leadership….

            • Duker

               /  7th September 2019

              What has keeping his brother in the party have to with him. His brother has his own life , perhaps he can take that idiot Bercow and not let the door catch them on the b….
              Good to see the judges telling the remainers they don’t have a case to stop proroguation…obvious to everyone else…they should put their show on the West End…

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  7th September 2019

          Boris will just run the clock down until Oct 31 now. And continue his election campaigning.

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          • Duker

             /  7th September 2019

            That’s what I would do…let the EU come up with a means of removing the Irish backstop -which locks Britain into a customs union.
            The Germans are already on a verge of a recession and don’t want a no deal situation for their Industry….time to throw Ireland under the bus like they did during the banking crisis and reneged on the promise to support Ireland once they bailed out their private banks. Funnily enough Ireland survived that and thus they will any border with Ulster …not to different to 1922

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