Sexual assault claims ‘innuendo’ and ‘lies’

Winston Peters arrived back in Parliament after sick leave and immediately took to stirring up Labour’s sexual assault issue. He also tried to attack Judith Collins by association – much along the lines that have been run at The Standard.

Newshub: Winston Peters labels Labour sexual assault claims ‘innuendo’, NZ First MPs back him up

Winston Peters has wasted no time wading into the Labour Party investigation, calling the allegations “unfounded fiction”, an “orgy of speculation”, and “innuendo”.

The NZ First leader’s inflammatory comments come as Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern seeks to work with the complainants out of the public glare – but she won’t take her deputy to task.

“I’ve rarely seen such a disgraceful episode of unfounded allegations,” Peters said on Tuesday.

Typical irony from Peters given his history of using speculation and innuendo and allegations without producing evidence (it has often just been threatened).

He said it was “led by a woman called Paula Bennett making all sorts of vile allegations by way of innuendo without a fact to back it up”.

And New Zealand First MPs were lining up to back him up.

“If you are a victim of criminal wrongdoing, do not go to the opposition – go to the police,” Shane Jones, Regional Economic Minister, said.

Tracey Martin, Internal Affairs Minister, added: “[Winston Peters has] got a point – I haven’t seen any evidence be produced.”

So it looks like a coo-ordinated line of attack.

In Parliament yesterday Peters attempted a diversionary attack on Judith Collins was not allowed by the Speaker: 9. Question No. 9—Energy and Resources

Rt Hon Winston Peters: A supplementary question to the primary question today from the Leader of the Opposition: which member of Parliament was associated with this company?

Hon Dr Nick Smith: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Speakers’ ruling 159/5 says, “It is not reasonable to use questions from the governing party or its support parties to attack other members of the House.” I think it’s clear that what the Deputy Prime Minister is doing is deliberately targeting a member of the House.

Rt Hon Winston Peters: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.

SPEAKER: I’ll hear from the Deputy Prime Minister.

Rt Hon Winston Peters: That protest might sound meritorious were it not for the fact that the very leader of his own party raised that question during a supplementary in the first question today.

SPEAKER: Well, I’m not convinced that team-tag would make something like this appropriate. My view on this—and it’s a very strict view—is that attacks, especially on the families of members of Parliament, are generally inappropriate. I think that the question was an invitation to attack a family member of a member of this Parliament, and on that basis I’m not going to allow it to proceed.

Coincidentally (perhaps) similar lines have been run at The Standard. This post yesterday went as far as naming Collins: The strange case of Oravida and the rupturing of the Ruakaka jet fuel line:

The rumour mill went overboard at the time with suggestions that an Oravida company associated with Judith Collins was involved.

The post included an Oravido photo with Collins. This is dirty politics by association. Collins wasn’t driving the digger that ruptured the fuel line, and there’s no evidence she had anything to do with it or with the operations of the company – I think it’s extremely unlikely.

Also at The Standard yesterday, again authored by Labour stalwart MICKYSAVAGE: An unfortunate rush to judgment by the media?

Labour’s Council member Simon Mitchell, who is a very experienced and adept lawyer, has made a public statement which directly contradicts the essence of some of the allegations that have been made.

The post strongly supports Mitchell’s statement, and makes no mention of the complainant’s counter statement (it was linked in comments by someone else).

The post features an old photo of Paula Bennett with Cameron Slater, who has no link to the Labour sexual assault story. Associating Bennett here with Mr Dirty Politics is the sort of dirty politics that Slater used. SHG commented

And lprent was again throwing around warnings when comments were made that he didn’t like.

Either Mitchell is lying or this individual victim is lying. I’d be interested in hearing what the other complainants have to say. What a messy situation.

Let us not forget that Sarah is only one of twelve people who have complained.

Also, let us not forget that where sexual assault/rape/harrassment is concerned, only a fraction of the incidents ever result in complaints.

What I’m saying is, don’t fixate on what Sarah did or didn’t say to the Labour Party’s lawyer as if answering that question represents any sort of achievement.

[lprent: Lets not forget that the panel and everyone else in the Labour process have been saying that the sexual assault/rape allegations weren’t raised to them. You have just asserted that it was. That is defamatory.

Please keep trying to make me liable. I am really looking forward to kicking your snarky lying arse off the site permanently.

Second warning. ]

Ironic accusing SHG of being defamatory given the posts smearing MPs.

lprent falsely accused me of lying last week when all I was doing was quoting media reports. He has accused the media and others of lying too.

He and The Standard seem to have a similar agenda to peters and NZ First, It looks like the are doing dirty work for the Labour party establishment in a defence, and an attack on the complainants.

Disclosure: The Standard banned me on Sunday for posting media reports on this issue. The seem to be hard out trying to control the message favourable to the Labour Party establishment, with messages contrary to what Jacinda Ardern has been saying.

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28 Comments

  1. alloytoo

     /  18th September 2019

    Desperate squirrels abound, foaming at the mouth, are these squirrels being paid Minimum wage?

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  2. Corky

     /  18th September 2019

    Maybe National can ‘kill two birds with one stone’ using this issue. If Labour goes down, Winston will look like a dick. Of course, it’s doubtful Labour will release all inquiry findings. That scenario again can be used by National a election time.

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  3. Trevors_elbow

     /  18th September 2019

    Winston of:

    >the No sign
    > huka lodge is being sold
    >countless other I know and will reveal statements that add up to not a lot

    Winston’s view is worth little in these situations…

    I wish he would just retire and focus on fishing…. but then the racing invites etc might dry up?

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    • Duker

       /  18th September 2019

      All the good jobs for retired politicians have been taken up by Key and English and Joyce….. well Key anyway.
      English has cornered the market in his specialist area , Big Box Retailers….Joyce is still waiting for call backs….his specialist area was ‘running a political party’ but that went to a novice, whos learning on the job.

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      • Trevors_elbow

         /  18th September 2019

        Watch… squirrel … Key! English! Joyce!… waaaah

        Seriously. Is that it? You are diversion spreader and not a lot else.

        The complaints should have your empathy.. instead you back an unconvincing flim flam merchant…

        NZ Labour… what do they stand for? Absolutely nothing! (And absolutely anything based on the allegations)

        Please never stop Duker….your commentary on this topic is a reminder of how Neo Marxists are just plain old Marxists… Party first…Party second and it’s always someone else’s fault..

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  4. Lou Graham

     /  18th September 2019

    What’s happening here of course is the Labour party deflecting attention from Ardern and other senior Labour MPs onto whether the victims are telling the truth…….
    The issue they want forgotten is what level of honesty we have received from Minister Ardern and other Labour party figures, as to their knowledge of the allegations……everlasting shame on the Labour party and it’s supporters….

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    • Gezza

       /  18th September 2019

      Yup. Jacinda’s promise to be an open & transparent government must haunt them daily. They’re as bad as any other government at trying to sweep their shortcomings, cock ups, & bad behaviours as far under the carpet as they can possibly reach.

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      • Gezza

         /  18th September 2019

        Just as aside, last night, after watching a short clip of her on 1news, I added Carmel Sepuloni to my short list of Labour’s more competent Ministers. One of their better communicators. When It comes to dealing with the press she is a pro.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  18th September 2019

          Open and transparent are catchphrases that mean little. They don’t stand the reverse test; no party stands on closed and opaque government. Or (in)equity, (un)representative etc etc etc blah blah blah……

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  5. Gezza

     /  18th September 2019

    And New Zealand First MPs were lining up to back him up.

    It’s not like they’d have the option of disagreeing with Winston

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  6. duperez

     /  18th September 2019

    Winston Peters has as much right as anyone else to speculate and pour scorn on whomsoever he likes in this situation. Every Thomasina, Richard and Harold seems to have had something to say.
    (He is as likely to be more knowledgeable about facets of it as others who have pontificated on it.)
    Peters also has as much right as anyone to politicise any situation to his advantage -especially as much right as the free wheeling Paula Bennett.

    The validity of his utterances should bear the same scrutiny as anyone else’s too of course but there would seem to be those in various sites who have speculated, made definitive statements and jumped to conclusions which also could be bullshit. As soon as Peters joins the circus they condemn his contribution as bullshit.

    Winston Peters has as much right as anyone to bullshit. Maybe the ability of some to identify it is that they themselves are as practised and masterful at the craft as him.

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    • Gezza

       /  18th September 2019

      Must admit part of me is always quite fond of the old reprobate. He’s nightmare coalition partner though.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th September 2019

        I have only met him once and he came across as a smart-arse. He told old, old jokes as if they were new ones; something only a very good speaker can do. He was like the smart-alec kid in the classroom. I was most unimpressed.

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        • Gezza

           /  18th September 2019

          I have the good fortune never to be in coalition with him. His capacity to bite the hand that feeds him wherever he sees any posdible advantage in doing so is prodigious. I always have a chuckle when he does it. He reminds me of that scorpion story, where the scorpion turns round & stings some other creature that just helped it (or something like that) simply because that’s its nature.

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      • Duker

         /  18th September 2019

        Sounds a little like Churchill prior to 1940..
        How many MPs since 1990s have left their party and survived

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  7. Duker

     /  18th September 2019

    An earlier question on the pipeline topic
    “Rt Hon Winston Peters: In 2014, at the time the pipeline was damaged, who owned the digger in question?

    Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: According to paragraph 4.15 of the report, Oravida Kauri Ltd, or Kauri Ruakaka Ltd (KRL), owned the digger and arranged for and paid for its transport.

    Oravida Kauri Ltd.
    Not that Collins had anything to do with ,i>that

    For some reason on her official taxpayer funded trip to China some years back,this happened:
    “Justice Minister Judith Collins skipped a law and business meeting to visit dairy company Oravida’s Shanghai offices, Labour claims.

    At Parliament’s Question Time, Labour said papers released last week show Collins was due to attend a law roundtable on a taxpayer-funded trip to China last year.

    Yep nothing to do with Oravida
    “The company – of which her husband is a director – later used her picture as a product endorsement, without her consent.

    Yep Nothing to do with Oravida
    “Oravida was having problems getting its milk into China last year in the wake of the Fonterra botulism scare.
    Collins had dinner with Oravida executives and a Chinese border control official while on the trip in October.”
    Suddenly Oravida labelled milk went through border while a different brand from the exact same farm supplier didnt.
    Not that Collins had anything to do with that at all…no siree.

    Collins wasnt driving the digger – but Oravida ” owned the digger and arranged for and paid for its transport.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/10013696/Judith-Collins-regrets-Oravida-interactions
    (Typical Dom story which avoids the actual report and blandly gives Collins excuse as the ‘headline’

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    • You’ve made no case whatsoever that Collins had any involvement in anything related to the break in the fuel pipeline.

      In contrast, there are undenied and credible claims that Grant Robertson may have had close links to knowledge of the sexual assault claims and either didn’t keep his Prime Minister informed, or did keep her informed, either of which raise serious questions.

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    • Trevors_elbow

       /  18th September 2019

      How much do your squirrels earn? Duker…Blazer….. same mo…..divert. avoid. Blame others. Smear.Smear. smear….

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      • Duker

         /  18th September 2019

        PG raised about Collins and Oravida…I just expanded on all the other times Collins wasnt involved with Oravida…. yet
        Bridges was the person who first mentioned ‘pipelines’ in parliament today- something they Bridges as responsible Minister of resources did nothing about for years before it happened….yet

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  18th September 2019

    Getting boring PG starting to sound and become a Peter William’s climate hoax freak.PG [delete improper MP name] said why Paula didnt take the fingered Sarah to the police is because the POLICE PROSECUTORS were hopeless at getting prosecutions 20% success rate and as [delete improper MP name] did that in a past life HE MUST HAVE BEEN USELESS as he is as leader of the party of rightwing losers

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    • Gerrit

       /  18th September 2019

      Surely Lurcher, when getting bored why would you not seek greener pastures onto where to vent your spleen?

      A place where the spotting of squirels is better appreciated?

      So is it adieu?

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    • Trevors_elbow

       /  18th September 2019

      Glue guns shouldnt be used in confined spaces for prolonged periods… seek help….

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  18th September 2019

    Gerrit,thanks for worring for me,its not a rightwing thing worrying about other people instead of your usual selfish self’s, but I feel I bring balance to a blog that isn’t a rightwing hate feast.

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    • Gezza

       /  18th September 2019

      Not sure if I see you as “balanced”, Lurchy. but those of your comment that make it through the gate do often give me a grin.

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    • 12 complainants. Seriousness ranging from bullying, to offering money for sex and rape.

      That a Labour Council dismissed the lot of them seems inexplicable, surely even to the most partisan.

      Why would that many people make so many complaints against one staffer?

      Reaching an outcome that suited the interests of the party rather than complainants needs seems highly likely.

      Right wing conspiracy? No

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  10. Johnathon

     /  22nd September 2019

    Who was the Local Govt Minister when Auckland Council approved the sale to Fletchers? Sam Lotu-Iiga. Who was the head of Fletcher Residential at the same time? Ken Lotu-Iiga.

    Reply

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