Rugby World Cup semi finals

Big games for four teams in the Rugby World Cup in Japan this weekend.

Tonight (Saturday) at 9 pm (NZ time) England will play New Zealand. It will be broadcast live on TV1.

Obviously this could go either way. At their best the All Blacks will be very hard to beat, but if England get their tactics and execution right, minimise mistakes and keep the ABs under pressure they are a real chance. Both countries had very good wins in their quarter final matches, so this should be  very good game.

I’d like the ll Blacks to win, but if England are good enough on the day to beat them then good on them.

Tomorrow night at 10 pm (NZ time) South Africa play Wales.

It’s hard too predict how this game will go. South Africa lost their first pool game (against the All Blacks), and haven’t really been tested since then. Japan put up a real fight in the first half last week but couldn’t get over the line to score, and succumbed to the power of the Springboks in the second half.

Wales did well to beat Australia in their pool, but they didn’t play very well against France last week. A red card reduced France to 14, and Welsh tenacity got them the win, just.

Another game that could go either way. As it should be.

I’m looking forward to both games with anticipation.

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55 Comments

  1. Ray

     /  26th October 2019

    I am sorry but if England wins it will because they use a boring crash, bash, box kick, and wait or trigger a penalty method. Possibly with some obscure rule they slipped into their self written rules, you know like cricket where some of the rules are unwritten!

    It is how they used to rule the world but doesn’t bear the cruel spot light of universal scrutiny.

    Of course if we win it is because quite frankly the best team physically, with exciting open play rugby did what it does best!
    Am I one eyed about this, hell no!

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    • Gezza

       /  26th October 2019

      Even Aljazeera’s female Sports presenter went over the AB’s record & reckons the AB’s are the Gold Standard for the sport & should win this game

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  2. Trevors_elbow

     /  26th October 2019

    All Blacks to win if we get our tactics right.
    The first tactical ploy is a good kicking game to win the territory battle. England will play tight and set targets using Tuilagis running power… Englands aim being to win penalties for points or position. Keep England locked in their own half via great kick/chase and pressure them.

    Attack their strength… going after their line out. Barrett S is there to bulk up our pack and allow us to really squeeze their line out…. compliments tactic one above… Pressure. Pressure. Pressure.

    England when they crack tend to implode big tome…

    Once we have established position we will I think attack via the forwards and use a pick and go style looking to dent the line and create offload opportunities… a la Reid to Taylor in the Ireland game.

    Englands big hope is Tuilagi doing what he did in 2012 and being able to slow the game and dominate through their forwards and a rush defence…
    Just play behind them via kick/chade and dont overplay the catch/pass game in our half….

    Think we model on the game plan used against SA in the 2015 knockout stages…. where we disrupted their lineup big time

    Wales/SA 50 50 game… prefer the Welsh to win…

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    • Blazer

       /  26th October 2019

      yeah…right!

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      • Trevors_elbow

         /  26th October 2019

        Walk on drop kick. If you have a reasoned counter, state it otherwise ….stroll on acid drop…

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        • Blazer

           /  26th October 2019

          As if you are privy to either England or NZ’s tactics before the game.

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    • Ray

       /  26th October 2019

      Sorry Trevors-elbow, I accidentally gave you a down tick, clumsy fingers, your thoughts are spot on!

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      • Gezza

         /  27th October 2019

        Ray, just FYI, if you accidentally give someone a down tick here, & you haven’t logged out yet, you can correct it. Just keep ticking the up tick for a few seconsd: it will eventually change to an up tick and the down tick will disappear.

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  3. duperez

     /  26th October 2019

    Reposting this form yesterday: ‘I don’t care if there are 427 collapsed scrums, 37 dropped passes and 7 cards, yellow and red, as long as the All Blacks get at least one more point than England.’

    In our little bubble it is not recognised enough that New Zealand should not beat England in rugby. Their resources dwarf ours. In a professional sport there is no excuse for England not being able to beat the All Blacks past it being about inferior performance and superior performance.

    Regardless of what happens tonight I think the superior achievement over years hasn’t recognised in that context.

    One thing for sure is that if the result goes NZ’s way we, including our sports media, will be all ‘didn’t WE do well.’ If the All Blacks lose it will be ‘THEY didn’t do well.’ And there will be more boots put into them than have ever been in stock at Hannahs.

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  4. Corky

     /  26th October 2019

    Eddie will have England believing they will win this match if they play well – no buts;no question. So it’s incumbent on the ABs to apply the hurt from the get-go… big scrums, big tackles, big kicking and big line breaks. England’s midfield has players who could cause all sorts of problems for the ABs, but what will they play like if they are ‘softened’ by the likes of SBW? I’m interested in how England will apply their rush defence given the ABs countered the SA rush defence successfully.

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  5. I’m really looking forward to this game. I’d put the odds for both teams at 50/50, they are both in with a good chance, depending on how well they execute their game plans. Minimising mistakes will be key.

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    • Gezza

       /  26th October 2019

      She’s all on! Got me fruit jubes. All good. 👍🏼

      Just a question of how much we win by now.

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      • Gezza

         /  26th October 2019

        😮 Shit! First try to England already. Christ. Nearly choked on me fruit jube. 😬

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  6. England started brilliant to score an early try. And a penalty late in the first half to notch up ten points to the ABs zero. The ABs have been generally outplayed, and haven’t been able to get their attack working.

    I big second haalf turnaround to rescue the game, if they are goo enough and if England slip off the pace.

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  7. England 19, headless chooks 7.

    England played very well, the ABs tried hard in the second half but rarely looked like getting through England’s defence.

    England deserved to win, ABs deserved to lose.

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    • Corky

       /  26th October 2019

      The death knell of rugby in NZ has sounded, especially if Foster is elected coach. A younger generation will continue to drift away from the game in larger numbers. ‘Four more years’ is too long to wait for a team who are losers.

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      • They lost a game to a team that outplayed them. Has happened before, will happen again, the world won’t end.

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        • Corky

           /  27th October 2019

          Correct, the world won’t end..but I bet rugby numbers plummet. I have been around many young folk recently. Two things stood out – their world revolves around their smart phones ( literally), and none follow rugby. Given their demographic, I found that astonishing. These young folk also didn’t watch TV.. TV is a major channel for keeping the population informed about the All Blacks and rugby in general.

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      • duperez

         /  27th October 2019

        Of course the numbers playing rugby will drop, just as the number having landline phones drops – the world and it inhabitants are changing.

        Among the myriad of factors to do with changes seeing numbers dropping, is an irony of sports journalists, ostensibly lamenting the decline, fertilising the same by their goals around the elite First XV school system and their determination to forward those.

        The game was a community recreation over years, now it is a commercial product a consumer entertainment package. That means bums on seats, with those in grounds an adjunct to the more important ones in lounges, on transport, all over. Wearing the labeled clothes, watching the commercials hanging on the activity.

        Wearing whose clothes? Watching whose commercials? It is said NZR has sold broadcasting rights to Sky for $40-$50 million a year. Chicken feed compared to the money involved in US sports to send their message and attract support worldwide.

        Survival in a reasonable form from an inevitable decline would seem to be more likely by harnessing ‘points of difference’ rather than by simply doing and playing the ‘same game.’ Young people want to ‘get something out of it,’ and not just be drawn by that but feeling they are getting that. That doesn’t start by magically flicking a switch when they’re 15. That might be the age when they have the independence to be sending messages to their parents that they are sick and tired of doing sport for their parents not themselves.

        We want to, we expect to win every world championship and Olympic medal in sports across the board or go close. There are only so many who will want to play sports, only so many with the capability of being elite. Events will impact on the ebb and flow of interest and attraction – like the Steven Adams effect.

        All sports bodies are probably wrestling with some sort of problems around participation of the young. Looking at the pointy end of performance in a professional commercial entertainment business by considering little kids playing recreational activities is a nice counterbalance to sports journalists in this country professionalising teenagers playing rugby for their (the journalists) own ends.

        https://fortune.com/2019/10/14/nba-china-broadcast-sports-deals/

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/09/04/the-nfls-most-valuable-teams-2019-cowboys-lead-league-at-55-billion/#3007cc3c2f1b

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    • Gezza

       /  26th October 2019

      The best team definitely won. Best on attack & best on defence. Owned the field from the first minute.

      1. Nation will be in mourning tomorrow. Blinds will be down everywhere.
      2. Depression clinics, already overloaded will struggle to cop with demand.
      3. There will be a change of government in 2020,.
      4. The coach will have to go. 😠 Who else have we got? 😳

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    • Gezza

       /  27th October 2019

      Even Aljazeera tv’s main news presenter referred to it as “England’s shock defeat of New Zealand at the Rugby World Cup.”

      How did this even happen? Responsibility has been established:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116953175/the-richie-mccaw-curse-strikes-again-as-former-all-blacks-skipper-watches-rwc-defeat

      😠

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  8. Kimbo

     /  26th October 2019

    Thoroughly deserved win by England who played with brains, intensity and skill for the full 80 minutes and didn’t let us play our game. England were reminiscent of a great NZ team, and the game reminiscent of our 7-22 loss to the Wallabies in the 2003 RWC semis, the last time Eddie Jones coached a team to beat the All Blacks at the World Cup. Like then we didn’t touch the ball and the final score flattered us.

    Four more years…

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  9. alloytoo

     /  27th October 2019

    Controversy erupted in parliament today as the leader of the opposition was instructed to leave the chamber.

    This followed a heated exchange with the Prime Minister in question time where Simon Bridges had asked the Prime Minister about the failure of the All Blacks to win the 2019 Rugby World cup.

    The Prime Minister denied all prior knowledge of the event, stating that she initially thought it was a fault with the Spark Sport app when the All blacks failed to take to the field against the Springboks for the final on 2 November.

    “Nobody advised me.” she said “I was absolutely positively devastated to find out they weren’t playing.”

    Under closer questioning from the leader of the opposition she admitted that she thought the white uniforms of England were a Silver Uniform thought up by the Minister of Sport for the occasion. “I really thought Grant had tried to surprise me.”

    She further advised that her government would be convening a working group to examine the matter, which was due to report back by 2025.

    “This is more than the National party has ever done.”

    When the leader of the opposition pointed out that the All Blacks had won two consecutive tournaments under the previous National government the speaker intervened, sternly admonishing him that he had not sought leave to introduce facts into the chamber, that facts would not be under any circumstances allowed into the chamber and instructing him to leave the chamber.

    The Minister for Sport, Grant Robinson, later told the press publicly he was comfortable both with the All Blacks losing in the Semi-Final and with when the Prime Minister found out.

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  10. Corky

     /  27th October 2019

    I wonder how many sheilas have had the bash?

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    • Don’t get too excited. None, probably; why should they ?

      I can’t speak for the people you know, of course.

      Calling women sheilas is a giveaway of your age as well as your attitude.

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  11. Zedd

     /  27th October 2019

    Oh dear.. how sad; tomorrow’s another day.. :/

    btw; It IS a sport, not NZs ‘religion’.. as many seem to think 😀

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    • Corky

       /  27th October 2019

      Want a bet…Labour will be tarnished by this loss.😉

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    • Gezza

       /  27th October 2019

      10 Bloody minutes of mourning and shock on 1News ! They treated it as a national bloody disaster. 😐

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  27th October 2019

        At least 10 minutes on 3; it could even have been going on 15. On and bloody on about it. You’d think that someone had died.

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  12. PartisanZ

     /  27th October 2019

    Think of the … sponsors!

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  13. Corky

     /  28th October 2019

    SA v England for the finals. Can England raise the same intensity against SA as they did against NZ? I have my doubts. That means it becomes a war of attrition based on a mixture of skills and luck.

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    • Gezza

       /  28th October 2019

      This is called stating the obvious & having a bob each way.

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      • Corky

         /  28th October 2019

        Not according to Blazer. Having a bob each way? Fair enough…make your prediction, then I will make mine.

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        • Corky

           /  28th October 2019

          Talking of stating the obvious( and repeating herself endlessly) for the 100th time, I think the Oracle should also make a prediction. After all, what’s the use of being an Oracle if you don’t use it to your advantage?🤔

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        • Gezza

           /  28th October 2019

          Ok. Fair enuf. What are you wanting? A score?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  28th October 2019

            No, he just wants to be childishly offensive and get a reaction. He thinks that if he says it often enough, it will have an effect. Once Corky starts saying something, he goes on and on repeating himself like a stuck record. It’s rather sad, really. Look at the way he keeps calling women sheilas, Maoris mah-dees and beneficiaries beanies. We all know what he thinks of these groups after hearing this 100 times.

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            • Gezza

               /  28th October 2019

              *mardis

              Just saying. 😐

            • Corky

               /  28th October 2019

              The Mardee pronunciation wasn’t me..it was Willy Jackson. The Oracle needs less time darning😊, and more time practicing her meditation skills to reach Alpha State and connect with the unseen worlds.

            • Gezza

               /  29th October 2019

              Sorry, *Mardee.
              I sit corrected.

          • Corky

             /  28th October 2019

            Which team will win?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  28th October 2019

              Dunno but we’ll be cheering for the Saffers otherwise the Poms will be insufferable.

            • Gezza

               /  28th October 2019

              Well, for someone like me who knows little about rugger and cares even less now, I’ll need to think about this and do some careful calculations.

              For a start, the haka has lost its mojo forever, totally blown away by a simple V formation by the opposing team. This needs to be factored in.

              Do you know the birth dates and birth times of both teams’ captains?

            • Gezza

               /  28th October 2019

              Also, does anyone know if Richie McCaw will be attending the match? 😳

            • Corky

               /  28th October 2019

              All you need to do is make a simple call, Gezza. Will the English or South Africans win the the World Cup final. Once you have picked a winner, I will do likewise.

            • Gezza

               /  29th October 2019

              Oh, sorry Corks. I wasn’t paying attention – I was thinking about the despised bronze medal match when I posted that.

              The Poms will win the World cup. Ma picked they’d beat the All Blacks a couple of weeks back. She asked me if I’d seen them ( I hadn’t). She said they were all huge & made the ABs look puny.

              The Boks look scrappy & hopeful but the Poms look coldly determined & confident.

            • Corky

               /  29th October 2019

              OK..I will take the Boks. My intellect tells me even a sub-par English team should, at worst, still be able to scrape past the Boks. However, I will play the off-chance on this game. A relative has accepted a $50 dollar bet. I fear I may not be having KFC for a couple of weeks if I lose. If I win, I’m going to dine out…at one of those places where some ponce( or sheila) comes to your table and asks what you want after you read a bit of paper.

            • Gezza

               /  29th October 2019

              Righto. Good man. 👍🏼

              Why not just tell them “an organic cheeseburger”? 😐

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th October 2019

              How OLD is Corky ? NOBODY darns now and they haven’t for many years. Darning wool hasn’t been among the sewing things in shops for who knows how long. I can remember seeing it, and wondering who on earth used it. He must be ancient if he remembers people doing it and imagines that anyone still does.

              He has referred to Maoris by that disrespectful mispronunciation many times.

              I can see that he’s going to bang on and on about the Oracle and not have the guts to name the Oracle, although it’s obvious who he means, But by not naming her, he is free to lie and attribute non-existent views to this person.

              It’s childish.spite and very unbecoming in an adult, even one old enough to remember when people did darning. The last person I knew who looked for darning wool is in her 80s; my mother’s age !. I read a copy of Grey Power once where someone was complaining that no one darned socks now. Of course they don’t. By the time socks wear out, they’re not worth darning.

  14. Gezza

     /  2nd November 2019

    Good result. I expected an ABs win but thought the score would be close, so the margin is very gratifying.

    Even Aljazeera’s female 8 am news presenter introduced their sports presenter with a big smile & “Very exciting news about the Rugby World Cup!” It was item one for their Sports segment & even he was an AB supporter & clearly happy for them.

    Showed some clips of Kieran & Shag & said they were both bowing out on a well-deserved high.

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  15. Gezza

     /  3rd November 2019

    Rugby World Cup

    😮 Wow.

    Damn! 😡

    32 – 12 to the Boks!

    You win, Corks! 🏅

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