Brexit update – EU have agreed to a ‘Flextension’

From Missy:

The EU have agreed to a ‘Flextension’ up to three months. If the WAB is passed in that time then the UK can leave earlier.

The main dates are 30 November, 31 December, and 31 January.

Also, note the Benn Act is no longer relevant as it was for a specific event and specific time period, so if nothing agreed by end of January then there is still the possibility of leaving with No Agreement, unless Parliament plays fast and loose with the rules to again undermine the Government.

Further update: Parliament are debating an early election now. It is expected that the Lib Dems and SNP will support an election, but for 9 December not 12 December, and they are also expected to support a clean bill and vote down any amendments. The Government have said that they will support their motion to have the election on 9 December.

On the amendments, it was expected the opposition was going to try and introduce a lot of amendments to slow the bill down, including votes for 16yo, votes for EU citizens (they currently are unable to vote in a General Election, though Commonwealth citizens can), a second referendum, and extending the eligibility for non-resident UK citizens (it is currently 10 years living outside the UK).

Labour are expected to abstain from the vote, but the Government require 2/3 of Parliament to agree, so it should be able to pass with SNP and Lib Dem support.

Some highlights I have picked up from twitter:

* Boris Johnson has called Corbyn a chicken (again)
* Corbyn said he can’t support a 12 December vote as it will be too dark too early to vote, but he can possibly support a 9 December vote. The difference in sunshine hours between 9 December and 12 December is approximately 3 minutes.

 

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  1. Missy

     /  29th October 2019

    Correction:

    The Government have tabled a motion under the Fixed Term Parliament Act (FTPA) for a 12 December election, they still require Labour to vote for it to pass, however, if it fails then the Government will bring a one line bill to Parliament tomorrow to get around the FTPA (believed to be a bill to revoke the Act) which will only require a simple majority.

    Corbyn is believed to have been given one last chance tonight to support a 12 December election which will most likely allow Brexit to be sorted before the election, however, if not and they bring the one line Bill to the House tomorrow then Brexit will still be an issue when the nation votes.

    It is actually quite amusing, so many Corbyn supporters have been praising Corbyn over the last few weeks for his political strategy in delaying Brexit and not giving the Government an election on their timetable, however, now Corbyn has been outflanked by the SNP and Lib Dems.

    It is assessed that in all likelihood the SNP and Lib Dems will increase their seats in Parliament as the SNP hoover up disillusioned Labour voters in Scotland, and the Lib Dems go for Labour Remain seats, meanwhile it is expected that the Brexit Party will target Labour leave seats.

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  2. Missy

     /  29th October 2019

    The PM’s motion has failed. He has announced that later this evening he will give notice of a short bill to be tabled tomorrow for an election on 12 December.

    Not sure if this means the LibDems and SNP have agreed to 12 December, or if they will push for it to be 9 December.

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    • Missy

       /  29th October 2019

      Third time the opposition has refused a General Election, utterly baffling.

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  3. Missy

     /  29th October 2019

    LOL…

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  4. Missy

     /  29th October 2019

    So, here is a twitter thread that explains (as best anyone can) the state of the Opposition in the UK at the moment.

    And here it is unrolled:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1188886881532108800.html

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    • Gezza

       /  29th October 2019

      Good reporting, Missy.

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      • Missy

         /  29th October 2019

        Ta Muchly G. 🙂

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        • Duker

           /  29th October 2019

          Yes. Very good. It’s strange but you almost need to constantly focus, I found the house of Commons library website has good explainers from their experts on various processes as what things mean when you aren’t an MP. Can be confusing
          https://www.parliament.uk/commons-library

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          • Missy

             /  30th October 2019

            That is a good resource, though to be fair you barely need it here as every news outlet, whether print, radio or TV has experts in to explain it all, so as long as you catch an hour or two of the radio, or read a newspaper you are usually up with the play.

            It is probably easier for me to get to grips as to be fair it is the most dominant news story, and has been for the last 4 years almost.

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  5. Missy

     /  30th October 2019

    Jeremy Corbyn has bowed to pressure (or is that given in to bullying?), and this morning announced that now No Deal is off the table [it is only ‘off the table’ until 31 Jan if no deal is agreed] then his preconditions for an election have been met and he will whip the Labour MPs to vote for an election tonight. Nothing has changed from last night when he voted against an election for an unprecedented third time and this morning when he decided to vote for an election.

    Corbyn also stated that Labour would ‘scrutinise the bill carefully’, not sure how long they need to scrutinise a one line bill!

    The opposition party tried to attach two amendments to the bill, both to extend the franchise, one to EU citizens and the other to 16 & 17 year olds. Both were rejected by the deputy speaker as being out of the scope of the bill.

    Interestingly both Lib Dems and SNP were lobbying the Speaker today to reject the amendments, most likely because it put them in a difficult position. Their agreement to support the bill in return for the WAB being dropped until after the election was that they would not vote on any amendments, however, as both of these parties have been actively wanting to extend the franchise to both EU citizens and 16/17 year olds they couldn’t vote against it and then campaign on those issues with any credibility.

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    • Missy

       /  30th October 2019

      The only thing now is which date it will be on – 9 December or 12 December. That is expected later this evening.

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      • Gezza

         /  30th October 2019

        Aljazeera tv’s UK Parliament reporter commented this morning that Corbyn had little choice but to vote for a December election because, frankly, with everybody else now voting for an election, he’d just look stupid voting against it.

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  6. Missy

     /  30th October 2019

    Election Day is December 12.

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    • Missy

       /  30th October 2019

      Bill passed third reading 438 to 20. I am guessing the 20 are from the Labour backbench, they were not pleased that Corbyn had done a U-Turn.

      So from here it goes to the Lords and then for Royal Assent.

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  30th October 2019

    Big win to Boris by exploiting SNP and LibDem self-interest. Now he can crucify all of the opposition by highlighting exactly that.

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    • Missy

       /  31st October 2019

      Yes, he can also highlight the fact that Labour voted against an election three times. About 100 or so Labour MPs abstained, they were all MPs who didn’t want an election, but one was (anonymously) quoted by a journalist last night as saying that abstention was better than voting against as the bill was going to pass and they didn’t want the Conservative candidate in their seat to be able to point at them as being against the people voting.

      Interestingly the Lib Dems and SNP both abstained on the vote, they didn’t actually vote for it, but part of that may be because they didn’t get the date they wanted.

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