If polls are bad demand a new pollster

Donald Trump made the news a month ago (I can’t remember where) – his approval polls were better than Barack Obama’s at the same time in their terms. But that was brief as Obama’s polling recovered and Trump’s dipped.

While polling for past presidents has fluctuated Trump’s approval/disapproval polling has been more consistent – and worse than Obama, GW Bush and Bill Clinton just bout all the time.  See FiveThirtyEight How Trump compares with past presidents

Lately even the Rasmussen polls, which usually tend to favour Trump, have him -11% , and the aggregate is currently 55% disapprove, 41.1% approve.

There have been shows of public disapproval recently – here is the second:

A poll from one of Trump’s favoured media has been described by him as ‘lousy’.

USA Today: ‘I have the real polls’: Trump calls Fox News polls ‘lousy’ after survey finds 49% support impeachment

Trump’s ‘real poll’ has him on 100% approval – it has a sample size of 1 and a margin of error of 0%, according to him.

President Donald Trump on Sunday dismissed polls that have found growing support for his impeachment as a new Fox News poll found that 49% of registered voters think he should be removed from office.

“You’re reading the wrong polls,” Trump told reporters when asked about the surveys outside the White House. “I have the real polls. The CNN polls are fake. The Fox polls have always been lousy I tell them they ought to get themselves a new pollster.”

Keep changing the pollster until you get the results you want? Funny how he says that CNN polls are fake, but Fox polls are just lousy.

Trump said “the real polls” that came out that same morning showed that “people don’t want anything to do with impeachment.” But the president did not explain what polls he was referring to.

He may have made that up. probably. He is well known for making things up. Lying.

Trump is currently facing an impeachment inquiry for allegedly using military aid as leverage to pressure Ukraine into investigating potential interference in the U.S. 2016 election and allegations involving former Vice President Joe Biden.

Despite several witnesses who have appeared to corroborate the allegations against Trump, the 49% who said they want the president removed from office actually represented a two-point drop from the previous Fox News poll in early October.

When asked if there was a chance that new evidence could sway their opinion on impeachment, 57% of those who opposed it said there was nothing that could get them to change their minds.

There is a significant minority of Trump supporters who re unlikely to change their minds no matter what he says or does. But another significant portion of voters are the key to his re-election chances, if he lasts in the job long enough to stand again.

Thirty-four percent said new evidence could make them support impeachment.

Sixty percent of voters said they thought Trump had asked Ukraine to investigate his political rivals and 52% believed he held up military aid to add pressure for Ukraine to do it and 46% said the affair had worsened their opinion of Trump.

Trump and his Republican defenders have dismissed the impeachment inquiry as a politically motivated “witch hunt” but a majority (52%) of voters said it was legitimate. Thirty-nine percent said it was a “bogus attempt to undermine Trump’s presidency.”

The US political circus continues.

Of course there’s a chance that Trump will survive impeachment, and win the presidential election next year. If he does that will have more to do with the lack of decent Democrat candidates than his own achievements and behaviour.

Sure Trump has achieved some positive things. All presidents do. But one of Trump’s biggest achievements  is how much he has degraded the position of president of the United States. On that he is well ahead of anyone else.

With the help of his family:

 

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25 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  5th November 2019

    Trump a man of our times.
    Simply brilliant, the living parody of unbridled Capitalism and the reality of the contempt the governors have for the…governed.

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    • Corky

       /  5th November 2019

      In that case show us some alternatives…that work? If China hadn’t embraced economic capitalism, they would still be driving rickshaws and pissing in the street.

      Capitalism transformed Saudi Arabia.

      Don’t tell me you are a fanboy of North Korea and Venezuela, Blazer?

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  2. duperez

     /  5th November 2019

    Not as magnanimous as you could have been. Restricting the ‘living parody’ title to that to do with unbridled Capitalism?

    He is a parody of about a million things. In fact I would say he is the greatest there has ever been in the White House at being a parody. That has to be obvious since he is the greatest everything!

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a15335203/trump-superlatives/

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    • Gezza

       /  5th November 2019

      He’s turned Republicans into performing monkeys.

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      • UNFAIR TO PERFORMING MONKEYS !!!

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      • Corky

         /  5th November 2019

        Well, I can’t call the above audience soppy liberals. People who view the UFC are down to earth straight shooters (literally), who aren’t afraid to bash a transgender jerk who is being annoying. They ain’t vegans..or wokes. And they don’t drive ee-lectric vee-e-icles.

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        • I wouldn’t call bashing someone up because of their gender ‘down to earth’ or deserving of admiration.

          How on earth do you know whether the people in the audience are carnivores or not, or what sort of cars they drive ?

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    • Blazer

       /  5th November 2019

      he epitomises the ‘winner’ ,lauded by U.S Capitalism.
      Brash,confident,wealthy,omnipotent,selfish, and immodest.
      Living proof that perception trumps reality,and form prevails over…substance.

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  5th November 2019

    Terrible. Except that his US GDP growth is double that of Jacinda’s.

    Why?

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    • Gezza

       /  5th November 2019

      Yes, I’ve noticed that. Probably all those cheeseburgers, Al. 😐

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    • Blazer

       /  5th November 2019

      GDP measures activity….that’s all.
      You are another Trumpanzee with no or little understanding of…economics.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  5th November 2019

        I guess that reflects Trump’s activity and Jacinda’s inactivity then, B.

        Or his repeal of activity-stifling regulation and her production of it.

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    • Due to his big spend up on the credit card Al. Anyone can spend it but the young ones will have to pay it off tomorrow. Sad.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  5th November 2019

        More sad is that the young ones are keen on even bigger spend ups from their Lefty politicians. Figure that.

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      • Blazer

         /  5th November 2019

        good point Art..National borrowed more in 9 years than the cumulative total since NZ became a nation.
        Something for the younger generations to..pay off…brilliant.

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  4. MaureenW

     /  5th November 2019

    Terrible, except that the Democrats don’t have one candidate who can beat him, and Clinton will run again and lose for a third time. Ha, ha. Who needs to go to the movies.

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    • duperez

       /  5th November 2019

      The Democrats may well not have a candidate who can beat him but are you saying they don’t have ‘one candidate’ who can beat him simply because of the stage of the electoral cycle they’re at?

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      • MaureenW

         /  5th November 2019

        I’m saying at this stage of the election cycle – obviously I’m unable to predict what surprises may be in store between now and next November – I’m sure there’ll be some, however if it ends up being another race between Trump and Clinton he’ll win.

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  5. duperez

     /  5th November 2019

    “… and the quiet resistance to his corruption from career public servants with decades of service to United States Presidents under Republicans and Democrats…”

    I guess it’s just bringing the ‘ordinary,’ ‘business world’ way of doing things to governmental work. The stuff coming out about Giuliani makes him sound like he’s straight out of The Sopranos.

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  6. duperez

     /  6th November 2019

    The American Spectator reminds me of the 1960s Mad magazine.

    It has it that ‘secondhand gossip — false in large part’ peddled by some whistleblower is somehow lacking in the credibility stakes. The point being made with reference to that Paragon of Truth, Donald J Trump?

    Writer Ben Stein even used to be a comedian. When he had Nancy Pelosi throwing the Constitution out the window and it being on life support he carefully didn’t say which one – the ‘real’ Constitution or the newly designated ‘phoney’ one so clear to the Pres. 🙃

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    • Gezza

       /  6th November 2019

      One of the many paradoxes associated with Trump is that HE’s a phoney, but that his adoring Trumpanzees think, because he himself constantly calls so many other folk & troublesome revelations phoney, that means he must be “the real deal”.

      He’s been a bullshit artist & con man all his life.

      Reply

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