Open Forum – 18 November

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  1. He has been very quiet as an MP for years, so this isn’t really a surprise.

    His apparent lack of impact may have something to do with the lack of ‘transformation’ from this Government.

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    • Gezza

       /  18th November 2019

      I think he’s just been the wrong gender. It’s the woke feminists’ party now.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        One minister whom we knew well was routinely putting in 17 hour days. No wonder Parliament has a high marriage break-up rate. His partner was very supportive and understanding, but it must have been stressful for her as well.

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    • Duker

       /  18th November 2019

      Hughes doesnt seem to have got the memo about the Climate Emergency and the edicts from St Greta. ..hes taking his family for a year to do ‘global travel’

      “Also out of Scandinavia, the concept of flight shame or flygskam is predicted to become more pervasive, driving travelers to think twice about the environmental impact of their air travel. ”
      https://www.thejakartapost.com/travel/2019/11/06/the-greta-effect-to-shape-the-future-of-travel.html
      This Gap year thing is so last decade and yet he wants to do it in the 2021…what was he thinking …not like there is a Climate Emergency for him thats for sure

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    • Corky

       /  18th November 2019

      Let’s hope they don’t read your comments, Alan. These will be the people looking after you when you are tottering around the rest home on your walker reminiscing about the days when cash was legal; thought police hadn’t gained legislative powers and climate change denial wasn’t a criminal offence.

      https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/currently-profiles/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-author-tyranny-survival-protest-tactics

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  18th November 2019

        I’ll probably be looking after them, Corky, after they’ve collapsed with shock at seeing someone do something that wasn’t prescribed by the Government.

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    • Gezza

       /  18th November 2019

      There’s been a noticeable reduction in the number of plastic shopping bags going seawards in Gezza’s Stream – down to roughly zero. Still see plastic meat trays & the occasional plastic bottle – with top on – going by or trapped against the banks in little nooks and crannies by eddies. The other thing that seems to be increasing for some reason is aluminium foil bags for potato chips & similar snacks, or foil biscuit wraps. Still some asshats treating the waterways as a garbage disposal.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        The stupid thing is that those can go into the soft plastic recycling as they are just painted, unlike the foil sachets that coffee comes in.

        I wonder how many of the flimsy polyprop bags end up in landfill.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  18th November 2019

          Yes, those (crisp and biscuit bags) are recyclable.

          Cling film isn’t, for some reason, but I don’t use it anyway.

          The Paranoid Plastic Petals seem not to have heard that most plastic can be recycled.
          I am totally in favour of cutting down on unnecessary plastic, of course, ca va sans dire. My pet hate is pointlessly coated paper and cardboard, like the pew sheets at funerals that could be done on plain paper and recycled.

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  2. Blazer

     /  18th November 2019

    a man trying to do a woman’s job’-M.C.

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    • Duker

       /  18th November 2019

      They are saying ‘how could he remember going for a pizza’ way back.
      This is the Royal family, they have people who keep records of everything they do including police who would have accompanied him and his daughter – discreetly
      Im sure the paparazzi will be checking their photos too or was it too long ago for them ?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        I’d remember having a pizza in Woking; why Woking of all places ?

        I remember having KFC in Notting Hill; mainly because the ‘beans’ which I thought would be bean salad were hot baked beans.

        I can’t believe that he’d be stupid enough to do the things he’s accused of; also, even if he had sex with a girl of 17 (and it’s a big if) that is not illegal in the UK. But would someone like him take the risk ?

        The press is making far, far too much of this, yawn.

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    • Corky

       /  18th November 2019

      In Stewy Nash’s neighbourhood. A stark reminder to him that his government wouldn’t have a clue as to the handling of gangs. Meanwhile, gang numbers swell by the day. I know of two new recruits in their 50’s who have lived honest lives, but have struggled with their finances. They said they were tired of watching gangbangers ride past on flash HD’s. They want some of the action in their final years. Sad but true for a growing number of folk. The allure of gang wealth is overwhelming.Let’s face it, being honest….working 9-5, just doesn’t cut it anymore.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        Do you mean Stewart Nash ?

        The story about the gang recruits is rather strange, to say the least. You do know some odd people.

        For most people being honest and works well; the number whose income relies on crime are in the minority.

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    • Gezza

       /  19th November 2019

      ‘Completely and utterly frightening’: Gangs clash in Rotorua

      A shot was reportedly fired, cars crashed into each other and a window smashed with a metal bar in what a witness claims was a petrifying clash involving gang members in Rotorua.

      A witness has spoken out about the 10.30am Monday incident, saying she is scared to live in the area.

      Police have arrested a man in what they described as a firearms incident. The callout forced nearby Western Heights Primary School into lockdown for about an hour.

      Armed police guarded cordons off Edmund Rd at the intersections of Roger St and Joanne Cr and the Armed Offenders Squad entered …

      The Herald wants $2.50 pw for you to see more, but no doubt it’ll just be more of the same shit, different day, from the usual suspects.

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      • Corky

         /  19th November 2019

        It will be Ok , Gezza. Nash will deal with these ferals, once and for all. After he’s gone, you can bet National will keep the pressure up. These animals are going to be taught a lesson.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  19th November 2019

          Don’t worry, they will have permanent residence in your neighbourhood once Labour amend the Tenancies Act.

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    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      On 1News at 6 tonight. Gang violence is currently such a problem that Hawkes Bay region police are to be armed for now.

      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/hawkes-bay-police-remain-armed-region-grapples-increasing-gang-violence

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      • Corky

         /  20th November 2019

        I hope Kitty is reading the above:

        Quote:

        ”What we’re seeing now is members showing wealth, flash cars, motorbikes, with cash and it’s an attractive alternative to the lower socio-economic people – they’re targeting the vulnerable”

        I wrote:

        ”I know of two new recruits in their 50’s who have lived honest lives, but have struggled with their finances. They said they were tired of watching gangbangers ride past on flash HD’s. They want some of the action in their final years.”

        Kitty wrote:

        ‘The story about the gang recruits is rather strange, to say the least. You do know some odd people.”

        It’s always good to point out people who don’t know what they are talking about.

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        • Gezza

           /  20th November 2019

          Yes. I know what you mean. Some plonker tried to tell everyone Pickled Possum isn’t a real Maori & was just a posting identity yesterday. Soon put him straight on that one.

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          • Corky

             /  20th November 2019

            Yes, Kitty needs some moral support. I don’t know about PP. I remain sceptical

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  3. Gezza

     /  18th November 2019

    Aussie bush fires & droughts are God’s wrath

    Izzy still making a total twat of himself – & co-religionists

    Anglican minister Peter Kurti hit out at Folau, saying his message is “outrageous” and incorrect given “God’s wrath” targeted the wrong people.

    “If God really was going to punish us for changing the law on abortion (and) changing the law on marriage, it’s the Parliament House in Macquarie St and the Parliament House in Canberra that should have been the target of God’s wrath — not the mid-north coast and south Queensland,” he told Sky News. “If God was angry, God’s aim was off.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12286039

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th November 2019

      I heard that God caused Hurricane Katrina because of the Gay Mardi Gras…but God’s aim was well out, because that part was untouched.

      What sort of God do some people believe in ??? For all Izzy Insane knows, the people whose houses and lives have been lost are also anti-gay and anti-abortion.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        I am anti-abortion, but the idea that this is God’s punishment because it’s legal is outrageous. Izzy deserves the vituperation that he’s getting.

        How sad that a young man is so narrow-minded. What will he be like later ?

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        • Gezza

           /  18th November 2019

          Fat, bald, & just as bad, would be my guess.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  18th November 2019

            He has two fans here who don’t like him being criticised; nice for him. as I suspect that many people dislike him heartily.

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            • Gezza

               /  18th November 2019

              Could just be a wanker or two. Sometimes they visit here & let me know they’ve done so.

  4. Gezza

     /  18th November 2019

    “Police have failed to meet five out of seven of their own targets to cut Māori re-offending – a low success rate which has raised doubts over their new strategy to do better.

    Police launched the Turning of the Tide strategy in 2012 and set goals to slash stubbornly high Māori crime and road safety statistics by 2018.

    This month they re-launched the strategy as Te Huringa o Te Tai this month with new targets, including a 25 per cent reduction in Māori reoffending rates and an increase in trust and confidence to 90 per cent.

    While calling the previous … ”
    … … …
    $2.50 pw to see the rest.

    Can any poster paying the Herald’s subscription fee give us a summary ?

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    • Duker

       /  18th November 2019

      Often the rival Stuff will take NZME stories and with a bit of rewrite republish later in the day.
      The Herald Sunday did a do over after midday on the Stuff exclusive on that forgettable Green Mp who is leaving (dry my eyes) next election.
      Yes its plagiarism but both do it so its OK, but not on the industrial scale of the Daily Mail

      So called “production journalists’ are where the job growth is these days

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      • Gezza

         /  18th November 2019

        True … I’ve been noticing a few tweaked-article-twins turning up a few hours later on each others’ websites lately. Will see if Stuff purloins this one.

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  5. Corky

     /  18th November 2019

    I see the Oracle is slowly losing its power of foresight. It seems to have forgotten it was I who advised this blog of growing gang numbers before the media mentioned said trend.😊
    Perhaps, I have been wrong? It isn’t an Oracle, but rather an ignorant commentor living a sheltered life, and envious of my contacts in ”the real world.”😂

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    • Corky

       /  18th November 2019

      *Commenter

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th November 2019

      How dare you refer to a person as ‘it’ ? Do that again and I will ask for a moderation of this insult. You are too gutless to name names, and this oracle business is spiteful, ill-mannered and very tedious as you go on and on and on about it.

      You can’t seriously imagine that anyone envies your fantasy life and conceit . Who on earth would want to be YOU ? Dream on. You can’t even remember your own lies.

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  6. Corky

     /  18th November 2019

    School brawl. I notice no one wants to mention the obvious. That wouldn’t be woke.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12285943

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    • Gezza

       /  18th November 2019

      Hang on. I’ll have a look. See if it’s obvious. 😐

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      • Gezza

         /  18th November 2019

        Yep. I’ve been reading several stories about this stoush since Friday night. It’s obviously getting very old.

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        • Corky

           /  18th November 2019

          It’s not an old story…it’s a developing story. I won’t mention that to the others. I doubt they would understand. By the way, you haven’t mentioned the obvious. Have a go!

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          • Gezza

             /  18th November 2019

            Corky there’s been numerous articles on this brawl since it occurred on Friday night. What’s obvious is that it’s old. It’s also obvious there’s no phone video footage for some reason.

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            • Corky

               /  18th November 2019

              ”One of the weekend articles I read cited a young witness saying that these brawls are being organised on social media & that another one’s already scheduled for this week.”

              You wrote that. I call that a POSSIBLE developing story.

            • Gezza

               /  18th November 2019

              It’ll be a developing story if we get reports on it thru the week – like what action schools & police are taking to prevent it happening or whatever.

              I see the gang shotgun blast at the medical centre in Napier got a mention on 1News at 6. A gang member had been treated there for a stab wound after an earlier altercation.

              The Mayor of Napier & other mayors have said gang incidents & gang violence like this is a regional problem, not a Napier problem.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  18th November 2019

      Young drunken thugs are too delicate to be named and shamed. Couldn’t possibly be held responsible for their actions. The infantilism of youth continues.

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      • Gezza

         /  18th November 2019

        One of the weekend articles I read cited a young witness saying that these brawls are being organised on social media & that another one’s already scheduled for this week.

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    • Duker

       /  18th November 2019

      Corky has now become awoken , avoided mentioning the obvious, run out of Ambien

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  18th November 2019

        He has just awoken to a story that happened last week and has been widely publicised so that everyone else has known about it for days and days.

        I’d have thought that calling it a ‘school brawl’ was mentioning the obvious…but he may be meaning that the brawlers were brown-skinned in his usual racist way.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  18th November 2019

          It’s not the skin, it’s the culture. We all have the same head and heart. It’s what gets put into them that matters.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  18th November 2019

            I know that, but we have heard Corky’s racist views many, many times.

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          • Corky

             /  18th November 2019

            Bingo, Alan. And as a generalisation, if you have a brown skin, you have a backward thinking culture drummed into you. I see some on this site call that racist. I call it stating the facts without hyperbole.

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            • Gezza

               /  18th November 2019

              I dunno. Seems to be mostly white folks you see screaming ringside at boxing matches.

            • Corky

               /  18th November 2019

              What? 🤔 Parti would have a theory on that..and you can bet it entails Capitalism.

            • Gezza

               /  18th November 2019

              Colonialism would be more likely.

          • Gezza

             /  18th November 2019

            Fair point. Look at Nazi Germany.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  19th November 2019

              There are many races in the world who have brown skin. To say that this means that all of these have a backward thinking culture drummed into them is ridiculous.

              ‘To generalise is to be an idiot.’ (William Blake)

    • Gezza

       /  19th November 2019

      Be interesting to see how the police & news media handle this Friday’s brawl event
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12286528

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  18th November 2019

    I wouldn’t consider renting out a property long-term under these conditions. Be interesting to see what happens to rents and landlord insurance premiums:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12286075

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th November 2019

      I don’t like the idea that tenants can refuse to leave, that they can pass the house on to someone else and a few other things. The house is the owner’s property, after all.

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      • Duker

         /  18th November 2019

        3 breaches of what is called anti social behaviour over 3 months abd it’s goodbyes-ville.
        Also 5 days late with rent on 3 occasions ..splitsville
        Refuse to leave is for fixed term tenancies only…you could have genuine reasons like selling etc…see also anti social behaviour above.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  19th November 2019

          Great. You sign up for a fixed term tenancy and find the tenant has decided to take over your house permanently so your only option is to sell it.

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  8. How does he know they aren’t punishment for him inflicting himself on the gullible? That’s just as likely.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th November 2019

      Given that abortion has been around forever, long before it was legal and that it’s been legal for how many decades ?, it’s hard to imagine why God’s waited so long…same-sex marriage has been here for a few years, too, and as it was legal in NZ for some time before it was in Australia, why are they being punished ?

      Oh ‘eck, he’s on the news, or about to be.

      I wonder if he realises that devastating fires were happening centuries before same-sex marriage was legal. The Great Fire of London was centuries ago, and there have been Australian ones as long as I can remember.

      By his twisted logic, the people who start these fires are God’s helpers.

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    • Corky

       /  18th November 2019

      Oh, I’m not so sure, Pete. I read that the magnetic field around the world is ever so slightly adjusting to every magnetic source`on the planet at a given time. We assume we are masters of our own destiny. But what if we are ferals who have escaped Gods workshop and are fugging up everything thing in sight? It’s not God who is directly punishing us, it’s just we don’t know the rules outside of his workshop. Maybe the universe is adjusting to our every transgression, every second of the day. Maybe the Great Fire of London and the plague were universal corrections our ancestors had to endure.

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      • Gezza

         /  18th November 2019

        What sins do you think the dinosaurs committed then?

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        • Corky

           /  18th November 2019

          Not really relevant to my thought exercise. But maybe dinosaurs were the heavy machinery that converted our planet into a liveable environment when an all-loving God realised he had ferals on the loose. Once the dinosaurs had done their job they were returned to primordial matter to be reborn anew with other tasks to fulfil.

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  9. Gezza

     /  19th November 2019

    NZF donations hidden in slush fund?

    Almost half a million dollars in political donations appear to have been hidden inside a secret slush fund controlled by a coterie of Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters’ trusted advisers.

    The secretive New Zealand First Foundation collected donations from wealthy donors and used the money to finance election campaigns, pay for an MP’s legal advice, advertising, fund a $5000 day at the Wellington races and even pay an IRD bill.

    A New Zealand First spokesperson said on Monday the foundation had been in existence across several election cycles. “There has never been any suggestion that it is anything other than lawful,” she said.

    However

    Records uncovered in a Stuff investigation show a complex web that appears to be designed to hide donations to the NZ First Party via The New Zealand First Foundation.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/117509589/nz-first-foundation-dodging-electoral-rules-records-suggest-breaches

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  10. Corky

     /  19th November 2019

    More proof socialism doesn’t work. More proof Baby Boomers are the last generation who will have a broad general knowledge.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117503130/basic-knowledge-gaps-exposed-in-new-zealand-initiative-survey-of-kiwis-general-knowledge

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    • Blazer

       /  19th November 2019

      how the hell you connect that to Socialism!
      Does Israel Folau’s ranting prove that Capitalism doesn’t…work.

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      • Corky

         /  19th November 2019

        Geez, you are more proof, Blazer. Who runs education.

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        • Gezza

           /  19th November 2019

          PG has done a post on this.

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        • Blazer

           /  19th November 2019

          were you home schooled?

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          • Corky

             /  19th November 2019

            No, I was state educated. Only the gifted survive state education. Average Joes like me have a choice…either remain as thick as pigshit…or reeducate yourself.
            I’m still reeducating myself decades later.
            .

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        • Gezza

           /  19th November 2019

          That IS a weird & unsustainable conclusion for you to reach, Corks. Socialists designed & controlled the state education system that educated us.

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  12. Gezza

     /  19th November 2019

    Trump & his cabal will be cheering & hoping their sanctions will have finally triggered a successful popular revolution against the Iranian theocracy. Which seems unlikely to me.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/iranian-commander-chides-failed-plot-citing-protests-191118163058455.html

    Aljazeera has been giving the protests in Iran against the trippling of fuel prices significant coverage over the last few days, Further links inside article. They are reporting that the protests are mainly happening inplaces other than Tehran & that the regime has said police & the Revolutionary Guards will be out in force today everywhere to arrest anybody rioting or causing damage.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/iranian-commander-chides-failed-plot-citing-protests-191118163058455.html

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    • Gezza

       /  19th November 2019

      (Whoops – 2nd link accidentally pasted when I hit ‘Post Comment’. Soz.)

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      • Corky

         /  19th November 2019

        The problem I have is with the protesters. The Maori committee who represent the iwi, already had a deal with Fletchers if I remember correctly. But as Sean Plunket said, if protesters are moved on by police, all that will happen is ongoing vandalism and violent protests. That’s where the Police should come down hard with liberal use of the baton. Of course the police and government would never consider such action.

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        • Gezza

           /  19th November 2019

          Well, look at all the time & trouble & cost doing that has caused since 1840.

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          • Corky

             /  19th November 2019

            Can you clarify…given what I assume is the legitimate representatives of the tribe have a deal. The present day protesters have no legitimate claim for protesting.

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            • Gezza

               /  19th November 2019

              Certainly. Arguments & “rebellions” often arose as a result of disputes over who had the right to sell land. Different factions existed.

            • Gezza

               /  19th November 2019

              And, further, coming down hard with liberal use of the baton in this case might certainly appeal to the few knuckleheads amongst us but those with a few clues who can already foresee what that result would be in favour of working this one out as diplomatically as possible.

            • Gezza

               /  19th November 2019

              * will be in favour

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  19th November 2019

              Knuckleheads and sadists who get their kicks from seeing pain inflicted.

            • Corky

               /  19th November 2019

              ”And, further, coming down hard with liberal use of the baton in this case might certainly appeal to the few knuckleheads amongst us”

              This is where you need to understand Maori psychology. While that consists of a few things, the one I will highlight is” give a Maori a cm..and he will take a km. See, Maori respect strength. They may hate you..but they can respect you at the same time. Wrong move to give into protesters.

              Have you also considered:

              1- A possible racial backlash..ill feeling at best towards innocent Maori?
              2-Constitutional precedents?
              3- Economic ramifications?
              4- The inability of warranted officers of the law to apply the law.

              Not bad for a knucklehead..huh? I’m only joking😂

            • Gezza

               /  19th November 2019

              This is where you need to understand Maori psychology. While that consists of a few things, the one I will highlight is” give a Maori a cm..and he will take a km. See, Maori respect strength. They may hate you..but they can respect you at the same time.

              I see no reason to accept you as any more of an expert on “Maori pyschology” than I am. That attitude (give someone an inch … they’ll take a mile) is so common, even among white British Europeans, the Poms even gave you that very phrase.

              Wrong move to give into protesters.

              Sometimes. We’ll see.

              Have you also considered:
              1- A possible racial backlash..ill feeling at best towards innocent Maori?

              By Pakeha & non-Maori? Yes. So what would be different ?

              2-Constitutional precedents?
              Explain please.

              3- Economic ramifications?
              No, that’s Grant’s job now. He’s got some spare cash, but he’ll need to box clever on this one.

              4- The inability of warranted officers of the law to apply the law.

              Well, we’re all used to that. They’re also there to keep the peace, in reality, so they often choose diplomacy over aggression that could make the situation worse.

            • Corky

               /  19th November 2019

              ”I see no reason to accept you as any more of an expert on “Maori psychology” than I am.”

              I’m half Maori, so I have experienced the emotional content of that psychology. Unless you have Maori blood, you haven’t.

              2-Constitutional precedents?
              Explain please,

              In fact, come to think of it, there is nothing to explain. It is happening already. Maori get special treatment under the law and in government institutions.

              I will be back later.

            • Gezza

               /  19th November 2019

              I’m half Maori, so I have experienced the emotional content of that psychology. Unless you have Maori blood, you haven’t.

              So you claim, but I’ve seen no evidence here that convincingly backs that up, tbh. You post more like a Pakeha who knows a little bit about & hates Maoris. I’ve got 7/8 Irish blood but it doesn’t make me an expert on “Irish psychology”.

            • Corky

               /  19th November 2019

              ”So you claim, but I’ve seen no evidence here that convincingly backs that up.”

              Since when do I have to provide evidence I am me? But I have provided more than enough evidence to prove I know what I’m talking about.. I started with the Pickled Possum identity, and proved conclusively she/him was just a posting identity. Also I notice if I provide a little Maori insight or bait, you are on to it like a pitbull. Most of your replies/links come from Wiki or second hand sources. The Horouta canoe comment was an example. You were trying to tell me, a direct descendant of that canoe, that my elders didn’t know what they were talking about because you had Googled information about it. Maybe just a little bit residue racism, that a half- caste Maori may know more than you?

              ”You post more like a Pakeha who knows a little bit about & hates Maoris.”

              Alan Duff and anyone who opposes Maori gets the same treatment you have dished out. I have stated numerous times I have a problem with Maoridom as a collect. You don’t because you haven’t experienced the corruption and nastiness and abuse. You have just read about it. That’s why I have little time for your views ( and the majority who would agree with you) concerning Maori. I know what I have experienced. And my views are backed up on a daily basis.

              ”I’ve got 7/8 Irish blood but it doesn’t make me an expert on “Irish psychology”

              Yeah, it does. Because your bloodline gives you access to the Irish collective unconscious. I don’t have that connection, and therefore
              would have to read about it, or access it by magical means if I was willing to take the risk. You may not be able to write a thesis on said topic, but you would instinctively feel and know what to do when it comes to the Irish way.

            • Gezza

               /  20th November 2019

              I started with the Pickled Possum identity, and proved conclusively she/him was just a posting identity.

              What on earth??? I’ve met Pickled Possum in person – and her partner, so has Al, & spent a week in her company at Al’s cabins outside Russell. I’ve also met one of her sons, his US partner & their child, & visited their place in Kerikeri. She’s a real person, & is unmistakeably Maori.

              Also I notice if I provide a little Maori insight or bait, you are on to it like a pitbull. Most of your replies/links come from Wiki or second hand sources. The Horouta canoe comment was an example. You were trying to tell me, a direct descendant of that canoe, that my elders didn’t know what they were talking about because you had Googled information about it.

              Well, how would anyone know that you didn’t google it?

              Maybe just a little bit residue racism, that a half-caste Maori may know more than you?

              Nope. Just a sceptic.

    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      ‘Mikey’ is in your corner, Corks 👍🏼

      Is it the Government’s job to solve the Ihumātao shambles? No.

      Then why is it trying? You might remember it’s because just before the Prime Minister wandered off to Tuvalu at a period of time that involved several other overseas trips, and as a result gave her a reputation of being offshore rather more than most people thought warranted, she decided to say all building was off until this thing got sorted.

      Why she felt she needed to say this will perhaps be told in years to come in her autobiography. It haunted her the other night at the New Zealand Music Awards when one of the luvvies who won a prize taunted her to go there. It’s a rum old do when the woke are out-wokeing the woke, don’t you think?

      Anyway, Grant Robertson is leading negotiations. The National Party, quite rightly, is pleading with them to pull the pin.

      One fears common sense is not going to prevail here. The story seems to be that the Government, who can’t afford to write cheques for Treaty issues outside established Treaty protocol, has worked out if it slips the local council the money by way of a loan, the council can be seen to be the one who solves the problem. All this is doing, is dragging yet another state entity into a mess it doesn’t belong in.

      Do remember, because clearly this lot haven’t, that this is none of our business. This is a deal done between a group who owned the land, and another group who wanted the land.

      The deal was scrutinised, and signed off. Some of those within the selling group weren’t overly pleased with the way it went down, but this still doesn’t make it anyone’s business other than the two parties concerned.

      This was a property deal, but somehow because some see the land as significant and they didn’t like the sale, and despite going through the regulatory process, placards needed to be erected so lawful business could not be commenced and more worryingly a sticky beak prime minister couldn’t help herself and dug a massive hole for her government.

      And indeed as it turns out, it’s all of us, the taxpayer who will inevitably be paying for the rectification of the mistake.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12286655

      Reply
      • Blazer

         /  20th November 2019

        Much more to it.The authority to make the deal was never there.

        Reply
      • Corky

         /  20th November 2019

        This man is a taonga. He astounds me with his incisive insights. And most importantly… he agrees with me. If he’s not knighted, someone has been remiss.

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  20th November 2019

          I must admit I think he’s worth having around on the air & I much perfer him to Sir Paul Holmes who I always considered a tosser.

          Reply
        • Blazer

           /  20th November 2019

          Doubt he’s from Tonga,and if he agrees with you he should be…crowned.

          Reply
  13. Zedd

     /  19th November 2019

    just watching ‘referendum framework’ bill.. the mechanics of the process for 2020 election.
    *Nats oppose it OR do they just oppose cannabis & asstd dying bills ?

    btw: Dr Nick needs to see a doctor; blood pressure :/

    Reply
  14. Kitty Catkin

     /  19th November 2019

    Another mass murder in the US.

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  19th November 2019

      There’ve been three lots of multiple shootings over there in the last couple of days; one at a back yard barbecue in LA (sounded like a gang hit) 2 or 3 dead, Another at a school football game, & another outside a Walmart somewhere – 2 or 3 dead.

      Are you talking about a fourth one? Where? How many dead?

      Reply
      • Blazer

         /  20th November 2019

        is ‘sceptic’ the same as…skeptic…just wondering.

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  20th November 2019

          Yes. both spellings are correct. They both mean sceptical. I think possibly sceptic is the UK spelling, skeptic the US one. I usually use skeptic so it doesn’t get confused with septic.

          Reply
  15. Blazer

     /  20th November 2019

    the P.M in waiting ,getting smashed…again!
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018723025

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      On the NZF foundation donations issue, suggesting that Jacinda should “do something” before the Electioral Commission has looked into it, yup, skewered.

      On Ihumatao, not so much. Made points there that are relevant.

      Reply
      • Blazer

         /  20th November 2019

        Apart from what his solution would have been!

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  20th November 2019

          No, his solution, he says, would have been to not get the government involved & presumably (I think he’s said this before) have the police evict the protestors. He contends in there that not giving in to them would mean eventually they’d just give up & go away.

          Reply
          • Blazer

             /  20th November 2019

            Ardern has not been there and has the Govt really been involved’?

            National sent the Police in to evict the protesters at Bastion Pt…look how that turned out.

            Reply
          • Gezza

             /  20th November 2019

            Yes, the government is really involved, B. Ardern said there would be no more building work on the site until a resolution had been worked out. And Grant was shown on 1News last night saying he was currently in talks with all the parties aiming for a resolution.

            Reply
          • Gezza

             /  20th November 2019

            National sent the Police in to evict the protesters at Bastion Pt…look how that turned out.

            Turned out well for Maori, but that land was clearly rightfully theirs. Ownership of the Ihumatao site is more complicated.

            Reply
  16. Gezza

     /  20th November 2019


    The question consuming Americans. Did he fart?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/117557742/fart–or-was-it-a-mug-scraping-across-a-desk–heard-around-the-world

    Could it get any more farcical? 😐

    Reply
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  20th November 2019

      I’m expecting Trumpy to tell us, G.

      Reply
    • Corky

       /  20th November 2019

      😂👍. Post of the day.

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th November 2019

        Christ what a train wreck that’s turned out to be. 1News at 6 last night showed photos of Andrew taken around that time a) sweating, and b) in a public display of affection – well, some chick giving him a party smooch on the cheek. It’s a PR disaster.

        Reply
        • The entire interview is riveting in so much as watching a total nonce telling lies to fool his lesser mortals. The sooner they boot him out the better. In fact I’d like them all gone.

          Reply
      • Blazer

         /  20th November 2019

        Right royal flush…’randy Andy’,Koo Stark,married the toe sucking Duchess of Pork,misdemeanours with young girls!!Would he ever tell bare faced lies?

        Reply
  17. Looks like President Trump finally has his Ukraine investigation into corruption.

    https://apnews.com/196b3007d9db4747b55f9019f0f9da91

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      “Federal prosecutors are planning to interview an executive with Ukraine’s state-owned gas company as part of an ongoing probe into the business dealings of Rudy Giuliani and two of his Soviet-born business associates.

      A lawyer for Andrew Favorov confirmed Tuesday that he is scheduled to meet voluntarily with the U.S. Justice Department. Favorov is the director of the integrated gas division at Naftogaz, the state-owned gas provider in Ukraine.

      Federal prosecutors in New York are investigating the business dealings of Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, including whether he failed to register as a foreign agent, according to people familiar with the probe. The people were not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity.”

      …. …. ….

      The plot thickens 💩💩💩💩💩💩

      Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      “A veteran diplomat’s testimony in the impeachment hearings against American President Donald Trump, has changed from his deposition in October. Former US envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker said today he had learned new details since then.

      Volker said he now realises the investigation Trump wanted into Burisma was supposed to be an investigation into Democrat Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

      Sought by Republicans to testify, Volker spoke up instead for Democrat Biden in today’s impeachment hearings, rejecting “conspiracy theories” embraced by Trump and some of his allies.

      Volker said he has known Biden as an honorable man for more than two decades, rebuffing debunked corruption allegations that Trump is said to have wanted the Ukrainians to investigate in exchange for military aid to hold off Russian aggression.

      “The allegations against Vice President Biden are self-serving and non-credible,” Volker declared.”

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12286886

      Reply
  18. Gezza

     /  20th November 2019

    Millane case looking more & more like death by sexual misadventure, manslaughter & attempted cover up to me.

    Reply
  19. Gezza

     /  20th November 2019

    Erdogan tells Trump: Turkey will not give up Russian S-400s

    President warns US that Turkey will seek fighter jets elsewhere if Washington continues to block planned F-35 purchase.

    More…
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/erdogan-tells-trump-turkey-give-russian-400s-191119173801960.html

    Erdy, having got Trump to shit on the Kurds, lambaste the EU, & let him seize a chunk of Syrian territory, is now happy to give Trump the fingers.

    Reply
  20. Gezza

     /  20th November 2019

    Boris vs Jeremy – their first live pre-election debate. For those with stamina.

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      Righto. 2112 hours.

      Gonna watch Boris & Jeremy now. If Sir Alan turns up & tries to run amok again can somebody else cut him off at the knees for now. Thanks ever so.

      🐧 Sir Gerald 🐧

      Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th November 2019

      Light entertainment. Don’t think that debate will have moved the dial much for the non-aligned British voter.

      Mike Hosking I think did a far better job of hosting the Ardern/English debate.

      Will be interested in Missy’s take on this debate AND on the following other leaders’ debate that was mentioned in this one.

      Reply
  21. Corky

     /  21st November 2019

    Unprecedented numbers of Aussie Muslims going overseas to fight. And they aren’t fitting the profile of unemployed mentally ill people who are easily lead.

    But of course, nothing new to what I have been saying for years.

    Reply
    • Nothing new for sure – no substantiation, no links. Just a vague claim.

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  21st November 2019

        Trying to find the link..heard the tail end on Mikey’s show. That said, I will make a prediction.
        Within the next three months there will be pay back in the West for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s
        death. I am wondering if this surge in Aussie Muslim going overseas is because they want to train up to avenge his death?

        Reply
      • Corky

         /  21st November 2019

        I would assume this is what Mikey was talking about given it has just been released.

        https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/typology-terror-background-australian-jihadis

        Quote:

        ”Although there is no such thing as an ‘average’ Australian jihadi, if we were to construct one from the aggregated data, they would likely have many of the following characteristics:

        Male
        Mid 20s
        Lives in Sydney
        Is or has been married
        Born in Australia to overseas-born parents who are still married (with one or both from Lebanon)
        No prior criminal record
        Completed high school at a government school
        Employed in a blue-collar job
        No mental health issues
        Not contrite and judged to have relatively poor prospects of rehabilitation.”

        That last point is a worry, Pete. That’s also what I have been saying for ages. You can’t help these people, hence my views of a zero immigration policy for Muslims. For some strange reason people think it’s me who is strange. If SOME Aussie born Muslims can’t be rehab ilated, what chance is there for immigrants and refugees with a similar mindset?

        Reply
  22. Gezza

     /  22nd November 2019

    Aljazeera breaking news: Israel Attorney General announcing live on tv that Bibi Netanyahu has been indicted on charges of bribery, fraud & breach of trust.

    This comes ahead of a possible 3rd election because no party has been able to form a government.

    Reply

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