Open Forum – 12 December

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  1. She has certainly been prominent in the news this year.

    And this award will ensure she is talked about a lot more.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  12th December 2019

      Im here to help the ranters,PG over Gretas Time award, the tight were banking on Trump.

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    • Corky

       /  12th December 2019

      Many people are cancelling their subscription to Time. The more intelligent folk cancelled long ago. So they won’t be surprised a snivelling little brat is: ‘Person of The Year. ‘

      Quot from Google:

      ”Time magazine publisher cutting circulation, print issues for its iconic brands, report says. … Time magazine, the company’s flagship famed for its annual person-of-the-year selection, will have its weekly circulation reduced by one-third, to two million copies, the report said.”

      Hey, Lurchy. Keep the good work up. 😂

      After this selection…expect more cuts to come.✔👍

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  2. This will also rev up some:

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    • Duker

       /  12th December 2019

      Rev them up ? They have been doing that since the election in 2017 over at kiwiblog.
      Its sad when some so so obsessed and mean spirited.
      The best snark I ever saw about Key was ..” hes canning the laughter of our children and selling it off overseas”. At least that made me smile at the allusions.

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  3. Time for a little nostalgia. Remember waaay back when Lindsay Graham said this?:

    “”I do believe the Russians hacked into the (Democratic National Committee). I do believe they hacked into (John) Podesta’s email account. They hacked into my campaign account. I do believe that all the information released publicly hurt Clinton and didn’t hurt Trump. I don’t think the outcome of the election is in doubt. What we should do is not turn on each other but work as one people to push back on Russia … Russian hacking during the US presidential election is not a Republican or Democrat issue. It’s an American issue. We must stand together.”

    – Lindsay Graham to Wolf Blitzer, December 14, 2016

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  4. Corky

     /  12th December 2019

    I didn’t realise Shane Jones has had serious health issues in the past. So naturally he would have serious immune deficiencies.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80259102/former-labour-mp-shane-jones-in-hospital-with-suspected-dengue-fever

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th December 2019

      Leukaemia (if it spreads to bone marrow) and lymphoma affect the immune system if and some cancer treatment has a temporary effect on it.

      Dengue fever doesn’t have long term effects.

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    • Corky

       /  12th December 2019

      First it was ignorance concerning colloidal silver. Then vaccines. I forget the rest . Now we have ignorance regarding Dengue fever.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971210025166

      ”plural noun: sequelae
      a condition which is the consequence of a previous disease or injury.”

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th December 2019

        Science Direct….enough said.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  12th December 2019

          Dengue fever lasts for about seven days and doesn’t have longterm effects.

          If you want to believe the nonsensical claims made about the debunked colloidal silver, no amount of reason will convince you that these have been debunked many times. It’s your money being wasted, not mine.

          As for your stupid lie about my not knowing about vaccines, that can be easily refuted by the nonsense you have talked about them.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th December 2019

            You appear to have totally misunderstood the article, anyway.

            As for my supposed ignorance about vaccines…

            I know that vaccines prevent diseases, that they have eliminated or virtually eliminated some…and that the ideas about them causing autism are lies. I know how vaccines work. I don’t believe a lot of quack science and old wives tales about diseases and vaccinations; this isn’t ignorance, it’s common sense.

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        • Corky

           /  12th December 2019

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/

          ”Search for peer-reviewed journals, articles, book chapters and open access content.”

          Sometimes it’s best not to dig the hole you are in deeper.

          ”Peer review means that a board of scholarly reviewers in the subject area of the journal, review materials they publish for quality of research and adherence to editorial standards of the journal, before articles are accepted for publication.”

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th December 2019

            I know what peer review is, thank you. A peer is the equivalent to oneself, hence a jury of one’s peers.It comes from Old French via Latin.

            As you have quoted quack sites before, it was a reasonable guess that this was one. It may not be in this case, but the article didn’t say what you claimed it did.Sometimes it’s better not to provide a link that people can read for themselves.

            You never did say what the ‘several tests’ for colloidal silver were or who did them.

            Saying something without proof of the statement makes it meaningless. A review by peers with no real expertise wouldn’t mean much, anyway.

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          • Corky

             /  12th December 2019

            The study is headed:

            ”Long-term persistence of clinical symptoms in dengue-infected persons and its
            association with immunological disorders.”

            I mean, what is there to argue about?

            Conclusion:

            Clinical sequelae after recovery from an acute dengue virus infection are common in the 2 years following infection. The results obtained in this study suggest that persistent symptoms are associated with alterations in some immunological parameters and FcγRIIa gene polymorphism. This could suggest *an autoimmune-based disturbance.*

            * my highlight*

            I am desisting from indirect engagement with this poster . Any sane poster will understand why.

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      • Griff.

         /  13th December 2019

        Referees
        Authors must suggest three non-conflicted peer reviewers with expertise as much for content as for methodology of their submission, with contact details including email address. This will significantly help facilite timely peer review.

        https://www.elsevier.com/journals/international-journal-of-infectious-diseases/1201-9712/guide-for-authors
        That is not how it usually works in a reputable journal.
        The editor will find the reviewers you do not get to suggest who reviews your paper.
        Pay to publish open access journals are suspect. Not all papers in such journals are rubbish but many study’s end up in such journals because they do not reach the standards to get published elsewhere.
        One paper does not confirm a theory.

        As to colloidal silver.
        Corky argues collidal silver is effective using a non sequitur
        Using silver on bandages is not the same thing as colloidal silver you drink.
        His argument is the same as suggesting next time you are sick suck on a tube of Savlon.

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        • Corky

           /  14th December 2019

          I have tried to explain, that the colloidal silver is the same – ingested or used topically. One stays in an aqueous solution. The other is impregnated into topical mediums and then applied – eg bandages.

          If one delivery method works, it’s a reasonable assumption to believe ingestion works..which it does.

          Google

          ”New research shows that when exposed to a microbe-slaying silver solution, the germs can “go zombie,” wiping out their living compatriots even after death. The results may explain silver’s long-lasting antibacterial power and could improve the performance of medical products that keep us safe from harmful pathogens.”

          I actually listened to a professor who is exploiting this. He doesn’t believe in ingesting colloidal silver, he is pioneering piggy backing silver nano particles on GM modified yeast if I remember correctly.

          With antibiotic resistance looming, sooner or later doctors will need to revert to using silver. They will only do that under huge duress… because the public will then ask: ..Hey, hold on! Why…..?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  14th December 2019

            It’s absurd to say that if applying something to the skin works, drinking it will have the same effect. Try drinking Dettol.

            Yes, there are forms of silver that help to heal wounds, and no one’s denying that. I have said that here. But the idea that if it works on the outside of the body it will also work on the inside is based on false logic and could be fatal.

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  5. duperez

     /  12th December 2019

    Gregor Paul in the Herald commenting on the appointment of the All Black coach made a remark which fits in with the way the world is:

    ‘So, not surprisingly, confirmation Foster has been made head coach for the next two years came with a predictable groan from a social media landscape that seems to have been accepted as the only true voice of the people.’

    Winston Peters’ this morning alluded to the necessity for quality media. He’s right. And now and then analysis shows that some of the higher goals are achieved.

    Will NZME and Stuff linking head things more in the right direction? Or mean that half the media people are got rid of, one voice disappears and what’s left is the crass lowest common denominator social media approach that seems to have been accepted as the true expectation and voice of the people?

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  6. Corky

     /  12th December 2019

    Here’s one for socialists. On one hand..yeah..and on the other…Hmmm

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1912/S00175/revealed-the-rich-list-of-public-sector-ceos.htm

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    • Duker

       /  12th December 2019

      And these pay rates suddenly happened last year ? or was it encouraged by a previous government

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      • Corky

         /  12th December 2019

        Does it matter? The point is for socialists in a jobs like those – on one hand that’s what socialists do – leech off other peoples money. But in this case they are also leeching off other socialists taxpayer dollars, not only da fillfy witches.

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        • Duker

           /  12th December 2019

          You mean jobs like Commissioner of Police or Vice Chancellor of a University with 40,000 students.

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          • Corky

             /  12th December 2019

            The Commissioner isn’t a leech because he is a protector of the realm. However, under a Libertarian government his pay scale would be cut back, while front line officers would receive substantially more money.

            Given all education would be privatised under a Libertarian government, the VC would be considered a leech…unless the University went private.

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  7. Corky

     /  12th December 2019

    My exact point at the time. Glad Tremain saw it the same way too. The editor should hand his notice in and get a job more suited to his style – something like being a subby at Vegan International Magazine.

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    • Ray

       /  12th December 2019

      One of your best Corky.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th December 2019

        Something wouldn’t have to be very good to be that, Ray.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  12th December 2019

          Corky at the time was squeaking that the protests about a cartoon that mocked the deaths of 50+ children meant the death of democracy and although he conceded that the protestors were reasonable, he wanted them warned and batoned.

          The editor had the decency to admit that the cartoon was grossly offensive and insensitive, Tremain tried to say that he hadn’t heard of the deaths. His half-baked ‘apology’ was an insult.

          I haven’t heard of anyone who thought that Tremain was right and shouldn’t have been stood down or that the cartoon was in any way acceptable.

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    • Corky

       /  12th December 2019

      ”I haven’t heard of anyone who thought that Tremain was right and shouldn’t have been stood down or that the cartoon was in any way acceptable.”

      I don’t believe this. Does Kitty read this blog?

      ”Corky at the time was squeaking that the protests about a cartoon that mocked the deaths of 50+ children”

      What blatant bs reads like. The cartoon mocked no one. Not Samoans and dead babies.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th December 2019

        Looks like it’s time Tremain moved out of the ODT. He should take Stewart with him.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th December 2019

        If I hadn’t read the blog, I wouldn’t know that you were squawking that this meant the death of democracy.

        The epidemic was affecting Samoans.

        Measles give the victims spots.

        The cartoon made a play on words about Samoan spots.

        50+ babies had died at the time of the cartoon’s appearance.

        What else could the cartoon have been referring to but the measles epidemic ?

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  12th December 2019

    A wee chuckle, no general debate on Kiwiblog…the bastion and face of the National Party Kiwiblog,who say they know how to run a country but their flagship daily post GD is a non-apperance, thank god from the voice of the south,PG

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  9. duperez

     /  12th December 2019

    David Seymour is desperate for publicity. I’m pleased to help.

    “ACT leader David Seymour is branding Peters’ support for the NZME-Stuff merger “deeply suspicious”. 
    “Serious questions need to be asked about Peters’ motivation,” Seymour said.
    “Why would NZ First seek to protect a media organisation that has spent the past few weeks questioning whether the NZ First Foundation is breaking the law?”

    Okay David, you’re the bold party and we’re in this ‘tell it like it is’ era. Your site is bold about ‘Politics in Full sentences’ and “Freedom of expression is the basis of all freedoms. We need to remove restrictions on freedom of expression and make it clear that it is a critical value for New Zealand.”

    Why are you beating about the bush with your Peters’ comment? C’mon, front up, be clear, none of this pussy-footing innuendo, say exactly what you think. Otherwise you seem like a gutless little sniping wonder.

    Or maybe it’s just a demo that you value Peters for what you have learned from him. The old sleaze teaches a young dog a new trick.

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  10. Gezza

     /  12th December 2019

    At least some of the homeless in Wellington weren’t missing out on TV & a few other creature comforts.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/118151124/fire-in-secret-wellington-homeless-spot-reveals-hacked-electricity

    I’d be checking my power bills with a grumpy look if I was the homeowner.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  13th December 2019

      I have heard of squatters running an extension cord from someone’s house, but this is a much more sophisticated operation. In winter someone might not be so suspicious of a high power bill.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  12th December 2019

      All hail King Trump

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    • Pink David

       /  12th December 2019

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      • duperez

         /  12th December 2019

        And the moral of the story? That the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth it is important? That guy on the left – is that Republican Senator Ted Cruz? Isn’t that the party of Donald Trump another great believer in the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

        In fact the greatest ever believer in the truth. 🙂

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  11. Funny – Trump suggesting someone else has anger management problems. He’s the Angerer in Chief. He often projects his own faults onto others, but that highlights his own fallibility more (except to those with Trump Defender Syndrome).

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  13th December 2019

      Are you suggesting Greta doesn’t portray herself as angry? Or just that Trump has no right to say so?

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      • duperez

         /  13th December 2019

        It’s just that anger and angry and chucking labels around about them are easy. Of course Trump has the right to Andrew Little became ‘angry’ Andrew to some and some particular malcontents and desperates still use the term. Was his behaviour (is it) characterised by frequent outbursts? Enough to call the label well-deserved?

        The Trump reaction is perfectly natural (for him). From 1:38 on here.

        So Thunberg has all sorts of problems, one of which is anger. She is entitled to those. Just as Trump is entitled to his, all of his.

        She’s just a girl though, just a kid, and will display any anger she has in ways which young people do I suppose.

        He is the President and will display any anger he has in presidential ways. They’d be quite sophisticated I suppose since he’s a big boy. Like when he’s really, really pissed off because he got beaten by an angry kid and there’s no-one near to smack around and yell at, he’d put out a Presidential tweet.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  13th December 2019

          I agree with the opinion that the real people of the year are the Hong Kong protesters. Greta is just a media creation pandering to their current moral panic.

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    • Corky

       /  13th December 2019

      To be fair, Pete, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; the dancing queen, has been called out by
      Candace Owens for acting like a girl when she is a grown woman. Perhaps she identifies with teenagers rather than adults? Diamond and Silk would seem to agree.

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  12. duperez

     /  13th December 2019

    The legendary junior member of staff strikes again!

    RNZ on the ANZ: “The RBNZ censured ANZ in May and ordered to increase its level of capital and reserves to cover any crisis by hundreds of millions of dollars.

    The RBNZ directly blamed the ANZ’s local directors for the lapse, however chair Sir John Key said the mistake was made by a junior member of staff.”

    Maybe Key and Bridges could get together and share the very handy ‘junior member of staff.”
    🤣

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  13. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th December 2019

    The truth about David Bellamy’s career that the slimy creeps in the media’s environmental megaphone club won’t be mentioning:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9817181/David-Bellamy-tells-of-moment-he-was-frozen-out-of-BBC.html

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  14. Corky

     /  13th December 2019

    The power of social media. It destroys lives, livelihoods and people.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12291797&&ref=recommended

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th December 2019

      It’s hard to believe that four reviews closed a viable business.

      The business claimed that it could offer one hour weight loss which is most unlikely to be possible.

      No wonder people stopped going there. It’s amazing that anyone was so gullible in the first place.

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  15. Corky

     /  13th December 2019

    I believe we should have special force women soldiers. 2×4 women units should be plenty.
    Women have more advantages than disadvantages over men in the field. They are quicker witted and surprisingly ruthless. However, they would be wasted in tactical operations. They would be better embedded in front line organisations where they could do damage from the inside out.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50756817

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  16. Gezza

     /  13th December 2019

    Cool !

    “Only the second interstellar object ever spotted in our solar system, is racing through our celestial neighbourhood at the “breathtaking” speed of 110,000 mph (177,027 kilometres per hour).

    As it zoomed close to our sun earlier this week, the Hubble Space Telescope snapped a shot of the comet, which is an ancient ball of ice, rock and dust that formed in a distant star system. Scientists are “clamoring” to study this frozen time capsule, NASA said, looking for clues as to what may lie beyond our solar system.

    “Data from the Hubble Space Telescope give us the best measure of the size of comet 2I/Borisov’s nucleus, which is the really important part of the comet,” said David Jewitt, a UCLA professor of planetary science and astronomy who analysed and interpreted data from the new image.

    NASA said that 2I/Borisov may represent only the beginning of a series of discoveries of interstellar objects paying a brief visit to our solar system. There may be thousands of such interstellar objects here at any given time; most, however, are too faint to be detected with present-day telescopes.

    2I/Borisov is only the second known interstellar visitor to swoop through our backyard. Two years ago, a cigar-shaped rock, ‘Oumuamua,’ paid a brief visit to our solar system.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/118195533/new-image-shows-rare-interstellar-comet-zooming-past-the-sun

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  17. Corky

     /  13th December 2019

    This government has to go. Does a hard working South Auckland worker get the same deal?
    Where is this money coming from..Auckland petrol taxes? What bureaucrat wants to be seen on a bike? Not many, if any. What bureaucrat wants to on-sell an electric bike at near full price? Probably all.

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1912/S00129/discounted-electric-bikes-offered-to-public-sector-workers.htm

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    • Gezza

       /  13th December 2019

      Julie Anne Genter !

      Oh God. Emergency Departments fed up with treating injured drunks who’ve had various accidents and brawls, synthetic cannabis user cot cases, & e-scooter casualties will now probably have Public Service e-bike rider casualties added to the mix.

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      • Gezza

         /  13th December 2019

        She’s nuts. That is going to piss a lot of hard working people off.

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        • Gezza

           /  14th December 2019

          As to what public servants might end up doing with their cheap govt-subsidised e-bikes, it’s certainly possible some might flog them off, I imagine.

          A week or two ago, either 1News or Seven Sharp before I could get to the off switch showed some volunteer scuba divers doing their annual good deed of retrieving & properly disposing of the weird & wonderful collection of rubbish some folk dump off Wellington’s wharves every year.

          Their haul included two yellow e-bikes. I wondered if the riders had lost control of them, or if they’d been nicked & then dumped by ratbags, or if the riders had hit & / or pissed somebody off, & then said “chill, man” (or similar) and ended up walking the rest of their trip.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  14th December 2019

            The second. I would guess.

            I’d hate to be riding any kind of bike in Wellington with the strong winds. JAG is a menace.

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  18. Gezza

     /  14th December 2019

    29 November 2019

    “President Donald Trump has said the United States has resumed peace talks with the Taliban as he made an unannounced Thanksgiving visit to US troops in Afghanistan.

    Trump’s visit on Thursday was his first to the South Asian country since becoming president. It came a week after a prisoner swap, partially brokered by the US, in which two Western hostages were traded for three Taliban commanders, that had raised hopes for the revival of peace talks.

    Earlier this year, the US reached a deal in principle with the Taliban group to pull out troops from the country and wind down the 18-year war in return for security guarantees.

    But Trump made a shock move in September, describing the year-long talks as “dead”, and withdrawing an invitation to the group to meet near Washington due to the killing of a US soldier. The US president had more recently suggested that the negotiations could get under way again.

    The Taliban have refused to negotiate formally with the Afghan government, but diplomatic efforts continue to foster dialogue.” – Al Jazeera
    … … … …. ….

    12 December 2019

    US officials have announced a “brief pause” in talks with the Taliban after the armed group launched a suicide attack on a US base in Afghanistan, killing two civilians.

    Special Envoy for Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad on Friday expressed “outrage about attack in Bagram” and said the talks in the Qatari capital Doha would resume after the Taliban “consult their leadership on this essential topic”.

    “Taliban must show they are willing & [and] able to respond to Afghan desire for peace,” Khalilzad said in a tweet.

    Khalilzad had renewed talks with the Taliban earlier this month on steps that could lead to a ceasefire and settlement of the 18-year-long war in Afghanistan, allowing a gradual withdrawal of US troops from the country.

    Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen said Friday’s meeting was “very good and friendly”.

    “Both sides decided to resume the talks after a few days of break for consultation,” he said.

    The assault on Bagram airbase came despite the resumption of talks between the US and the group days before in Doha.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/taliban-talks-pause-suicide-attack-american-airbase-191213062250773.html
    … … … … …

    The Taliban clearly don’t give a fig for what Trump wants. And Trump doesn’t give a fig for what the US’s Kabul government wants.

    Those barbaric, backward pricks had control of Afghanistan before the illegal US & NATO invasion, they’ve got control of most of it back already, & they know they can get control of it all again with Trump in the White House, that it’s just a matter of time before he shits on the corrupt & incompetent regime the US replaced them with & bails out.

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  19. Corky

     /  14th December 2019

    Yep, Brownlee is right, as proven by overseas experience with arms being smuggled via refugee camps. Of course the usual suspects are whining again. Geez, we need a Chinese approach to this problem.

    ”The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill officially became law on Thursday afternoon. ”

    What’s the use of this law when we still have open borders for Muslims. What the hell is wrong with this country?

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/12/gerry-brownlee-s-comments-on-refugees-branded-incredibly-dangerous-by-golriz-ghahraman.html

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th December 2019

      We do not, of course, have open borders for Muslims; we don’t have open borders for anyone.No country has open borders, as far as I know.

      Your paranoia is showing.

      Did you realise that China is a communist country and has been for many decades ? I can’t see many people here wanting to do as they do in that respect.

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  20. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  14th December 2019

    Greta’s message to her acolytes about our World Leaders…. ” make sure to put them against the wall”
    https://www.dw.com/en/un-climate-conference-talks-deadlocked-in-madrid/a-51667164

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th December 2019

      What a charming child she is.

      She must know what the expression means, everyone does; what could it mean but a firing squad ?

      Let’s hope that people tire of her hectoring, bossy manner and hypocrisy. She is quite happy to use products made of the fossil fuels whose production she rails against. It is, of course, quite acceptable to use computers, phones and even a large yacht made of them…when it’s her and not other people doing it.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  14th December 2019

        Maggy, Blazer claims that you and I considered and said that Karl Sroubek was ‘highly desirable.’ ??? One doesn’t usually use that of people, anyway, it’s things and jobs that are said to be highly desirable, and I can’t imagine that either of us would have said that we thought that he was to be desired in any sense of the word. We wouldn’t have used that expression of a person.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  14th December 2019

      The enthusiasm of those demanding handouts is not matched by those expected to give them. Who would have thought?

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  21. Corky

     /  14th December 2019

    Willie Jackson says Simon has gone from poor to average with regards to his performance.

    Bring the bacon home, son.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/12/simon-bridges-no-longer-a-poor-leader-willie-jackson.html

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  22. Corky

     /  14th December 2019

    We are having this problem in my area. Beanies in motels, who should be in dog kennels.
    A local motel banned beanies from certain motel facilities because of on going complaints from other guests. MSD became involved and warned motel owners that beanies had the same rights as other guests. And MSD is right, they are paying market rates. But what do you do when ferals are wrecking your business? Of course, no prizes for guessing who the main offenders are. But to avoid odium..my lips are sealed.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12284036

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    • Gezza

       /  14th December 2019

      It’s not just motels having a feral problem in Rotorua. Looks like even the town does.

      Scroll down a few posts. Read PLEASE GIVE US BACK OUR TOWN in full, & the tourists’s email. And watch the video.

      When it happens. No cops show up. And they know it.

      https://m.facebook.com/pg/Rotorua-District-Residents-and-Ratepayers-436732829817775/posts/

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      • Corky

         /  15th December 2019

        Terrible. Police should be given an ultimatum – deal with the problem..or it’s vigilante action.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  15th December 2019

      The first story is a month old and paywalled anyway. If it’s the one I read, a woman and her children were not let to use the playground and swimming pool (or something like that)

      I assume that Corky meant that the people were Maori which was obvious from the photos I saw (and probably the names) Why he is mealymouthed about this but calls beneficiaries (including his rellies whom he trots out to prove stories about WINZ, one imagines) by the meaningless name of beanies is known only to him.

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  23. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  14th December 2019

    Definitely not something I recall writing.

    I agree – not my style, and I’m definitely not a fan of East-European drug dealers.

    Why not get Blazer to produce the post (s)in which we used that descriptor.

    (I find YourNZ fairly unsatisfactory for searches)

    One reason I prefer Kiwiblog…. very easy to locate past comments.

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    • Maggy Wassilieff

       /  14th December 2019

      Not sure how that post ended up here…
      It’s in response to Kitty Catkin’s post above about Blazer’s claim.

      Reply
    • Standard WordPress search (which is what is available here) only searches posts. To add a comments search appears to require having the site hosted elsewhere and that would add substantially to ongoing costs.

      You can use Google to search comments. Add site:yournz.org to the search, for example:

      site:yournz.org maggy

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th December 2019

        He seems to have used a casual remark about KS being goodlooking and grossly exaggerated its meaning, Maggy.

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  24. Corky

     /  15th December 2019

    What the!!! I went to collect my organic raw milk yesterday, and was told by my health shop
    owner that they had been raided by MPI, who then stole my milk. Of course these filthy pricks know my raw milk supplier has the most up to date processing facilities, with a small lab attached. They are closing him down on a technicality.. They hate the thought of people making their own decisions..and getting healthy. To be fair, there are some raw milk suppliers who are known in the health industry to be bad operators. Why doesn’t MPI focus on them? The industry has already told officials who they are.

    So, I’m out of pocket for my milk, and petrol for my 320km round trip to collect my stolen milk.

    In the USA, before pasteurisation, raw milk accounted for 25% of all deaths from infections.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  15th December 2019

      Poor baby.

      If it’s processed, how is it raw ? Why does the supplier need a laboratory ? Why go 160km for raw milk, anyway ?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th December 2019

        Raw milk isn’t sold in shops, it has to come straight from a farm and go directly to the buyer.

        If the shop was selling it, they were breaking the law. If this story’s true, MPI were confiscating it, not stealing it, as the seller shouldn’t have been selling it in the first place.

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