Open Forum – 19 December

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  1. Blazer

     /  19th December 2019

    further to ‘hard evidence’…publicity of this nature suggests very damning evidence exists…another Knight in black satin’..to take his place in an increasingly crowded …rogues gallery…

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=12295067

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    • lurcher1948

       /  19th December 2019

      Will he be returning to NZ on con air like the common people in chains and shackles?,asking for a friend

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      • Corky

         /  19th December 2019

        I think he lives in Aussie. He will probably die in jail if found guilty. However, like most Righties, he has lived a full and active life. He has a life time of memories to mull over should he wind up in jail.

        Now to my advice for your friend..don’t eat steak and sticky pudding over the Xmas break.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  19th December 2019

          Now to my advice for your friend..don’t eat steak and sticky pudding over the Xmas break.
          Why Corky…more agism

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        • lurcher1948

           /  19th December 2019

          Over on Kiwiblog DPF might have told his moderators to look at this ???WHY im under moderation,here…just asking for southern fairness for lurcher, im sure you are elderly to PG why stand for agism SHIT….just saying, Corkys advice,i becomes tiring.
          “Now to my advice for your friend..don’t eat steak and sticky pudding over the Xmas break”., the poor bastard corky thinks i dont have my teeth,i feel i scare him
          another post into the black hole

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          • Corky

             /  19th December 2019

            Lurchy, the advice was for your friend…why are you getting upset? Better still,instead of putting on an Oscar performance for Pete, why don’t you just post correctly like the rest of us, so you don’t have to be in moderation?

            Give Pete an early Xmas present. Do the RIGHT thing. Let’s see something of SUBSTANCE instead of you continual MOANING.

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            • lurcher1948

               /  19th December 2019

              But Corky I’m not [deleted] you are,you are just a sad person,moderation or not,I spit on your shadow,god that feels good saying,

    • Duker

       /  19th December 2019

      Yes . It seems they have the gold standard , his own personal laptop. I read they had a tipoff back in August , but interestingly did nothing till they had an alert to say he was heading overseas and passing through customs gives them unfettered right ( without a search warrant) to check electronic devices, even when leaving the country.
      Years ago I read about an encryption method which could hide various sorts of computer files inside things like musical recordings. So you could have a recording of an opera on your laptop to someone just looking through , but it could hide top secret plans or vile photos of children. I had no need of either so never used it , but it stuck in my mind ( a bit like another method in the days of floppy disks where you hid your secrets in the ‘reserve tracks’ which werent visible to normal person without special software)

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    • Corky

       /  19th December 2019

      Easy on. He hasn’t been found guilty…yet. He may have been ”set up”. BTW, I learnt a new word from said article: ‘ conniptions.’ Not often a socialist gives you something for free. Must be the Xmas spirit.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  19th December 2019

        Conniption first appeared in print in the early 19th century in America.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  19th December 2019

          That may be distasteful, but if the prostitutes were the age of consent, no law was broken.

          That story is 30 years old.

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          • Blazer

             /  19th December 2019

            yes Brierly was only in his fifties then.
            Typical if its legal,morality does not come into ..it.

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            • Blazer

               /  19th December 2019
            • Blazer

               /  19th December 2019

              and another friend..the man who brought Air NZ to its knees…not awake to the YVD biography I guess.

              His arrest came as a complete shock to Sir Selwyn.
              “Never did I see anything in the [way of] sexual deviancy, nothing that I could take umbrage at him. You’ve staggered me with that particular revelation.”
              In her 1990 biography Brierley, the Man Behind the Corporate Legend, Yvonne van Dongen wrote that he frequently travelled to Asia – mostly to Thailand – where he enjoyed encounters with young women – often teenage prostitutes.

            • Corky

               /  19th December 2019

              Horny people are many times successful people. The sex energy drives human endeavours provided it doesn’t become perverted.

              Many people who haven’t time for normal relationships use call girls. There is nothing wrong with using young prostitutes provided it’s legal in that country.

              My local butcher and his wife used to go to Thailand to enjoy sensual delights not available in NZ.

              Google:

              ”Individuals aged 14 or younger in Thailand are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law. Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15.”

            • Blazer

               /  19th December 2019

              @Corky…if you or any knighted hoods,or randy rightwing success’ stories think its legal to have sex with a 15 y.o in Thailand…you deserve to find yourself in Klong Prem…for many,many…years.

            • Corky

               /  19th December 2019

              Add one more year, and you are good to go in New Zealand. Of course a moral issue could be argued.

              So is my Google quote wrong?

              Talking of jail..you seem to be well informed. Remember the last Labour government before you throw more dirt? Suffice to say…Labour was saved by a compliant media.

            • Blazer

               /  19th December 2019

              @Corky a.k.a ‘google eyes’…yes it’s wrong.
              Remember this name Mike Sabin.

            • Corky

               /  19th December 2019

              OK, what is the age of consent in Thailand?

              ”Remember this name Mike Sabin.”

              Yes, but he’s one individual, he’s not 30% of a the Labour caucus.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th December 2019

              It may be legal, that doesn’t make it right, it just means that the person can’t be prosecuted.

              I am amazed that anyone who went to Thailand because it’s legal there to have sex with someone of 15 would want other people to know what kind of pervert they were and tell them about the ‘sensual delights’ to be had from this. Why did these people want others to know this ?

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  20th December 2019

            The fact that the age of 15 is the legal age of consent in another country does NOT make it not wrong for an adult man (or woman in the case of the butcher’s wife if this story should happen to be true) to have sex with a child of 15. It is likely that the young teenager is not doing this of their own free will. The idea of someone travelling to a country abroad because their sexual preferences would be considered paedophilia and result in prosecution in their own country is repugnant.

            What kind of person goes abroad in order to pay a child for sex ?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th December 2019

              Anyone downticking this is saying that, to them, child sex is acceptable if it’s legal and not morally wrong.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th December 2019

              PDTs, we’re talking about paedophiles who have sex with young teenagers…how can anyone disagree that that is abhorrent ? It may be legal, but it’s completely wrong.Having sex with a child is utterly repugnant. How can anyone disagree that it’s wrong ?

  2. Blazer

     /  19th December 2019

    this is an interesting aside from Stuff…’A spokesperson for Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told New Zealand media: “It would not be appropriate for the prime minister to comment on the possible forfeiture of honours at this stage”.
    In New Zealand, knighthoods can be stripped from those found to have damaged the honours system’s reputation.’

    Convicted felon Sir Douglas Graham and even Sir Ray Avery with recent revelations about his business M.O are just 2 that you could argue have damaged the honour’s system’s ..reputation.

    Royalty,knights of the realm,it matters not….human nature does not change .

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  19th December 2019

      It would be best to wait until he’s found guilty, if he is. It sounds as if he will be, but no one can know for certain.

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  3. NOEL

     /  19th December 2019

    Might have a reputation for not giving stuff for all those workers impacted by his acquisitions and selling for profit, But dumb on data protection.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/107727171/travelling-overseas-what-to-do-if-a-customs-officer-demands-access-to-your-digital-device

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  4. Corky

     /  19th December 2019

    Here’s a big problem looming – drug testing drivers. I’ve written on numerous occasions about how legalising cannabis will stuff Maori society completely. The truth is it already has.
    What you are going to see is unbelievable numbers of bros failing roadside drug screenings.
    That will lead to excuse mongers like the Greens offering all types of excuses of why this testing is unfairly targeting Maori etc…blah blah blah!

    There’s no way a bro is giving up drugs. There is no way a bro is not going to continue to drive. Fines will probably not be paid. Then what? 28,000 people will be sent to jail?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118312267/government-announces-roadside-drug-testing-in-2021

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  5. NOEL

     /  19th December 2019

    Blazer the real deserving awards are those at the bottom of the Honours list.
    When they reintroduced Knights and Dames I ignored reading them.

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    • Corky

       /  19th December 2019

      You believe in that New Zealand Merit Of Honour, or whatever it’s called? The one no one cares about, The one the carries no gravitas..and opens no doors for special treatment?

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    • Corky

       /  19th December 2019

      Will Simon have the kahunas to reverse this when he becomes PM next year? NO!

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  19th December 2019

        Why would he have priests, sorcerers and doctors ?

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      • Corky

         /  19th December 2019

        Oh, dear. If only Latin was American slang:

        Google:

        American slang: literally balls, testicles; figuratively a man who has [big kahunas] has a lot of [nerve], is brave, a [risk taker], has a lot of testosterone.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  19th December 2019

          Hardly literally. The Hawaiian word means what I said it did.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  19th December 2019

            The ignorant confuse cojones (a Spanish word meaning testicles) with kahunas, which means a religious leader. Cojones is not, of course, pronounced as spett; it’s more like ‘koh-hone-ayz’ as any Spanish speaker would know.

            Some people with a poor ear for languages confused the two and still do. This doesn’t mean that kahunas means balls, just that some people think it does. Some people think that heroics/heroism and bravado/bravery are synonyms and insist upon using them in this way when they actually mean the opposite.

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        • Gezza

           /  19th December 2019

          The Big Kahuna in US (from Hawaiian) slang is the big chief, the top boss or the most powerful chief in an organisation.

          Big cojones, often pronounced cahonays, is US slang for balls, guts, brave, lotsa testosterone etc & is from Mexican/Spanish for the testicles.

          Kahunas & big kanuanas do now sometimes get used used as US slang terms for the same thing, but based on ignorance of the original term being the Spanish / Mexican word.

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      • Corky

         /  19th December 2019

        If only ”Conniption” could be interchanged with ‘slang’

        Google:

        ‘A type of language consisting of words and phrases that are regarded as very informal, are more common in speech than writing, and are typically restricted to a particular context or group of people.’

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  19th December 2019

          Nonsense. It means rage or hysterics; having a conniption fit and always has.

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  6. Regardless of Corky’s drivel;

    YES.. roadside Drug-testing is set to commence. The main issue being, the currently available ‘mouth swabs’ show the presence of ‘illegal drugs’ BUT are not like alcohol breath tests, that show the level of consumption & intoxication.

    As has been often stated; Cannabis stays in the system for days/weeks.. meanwhile ‘intoxication’ only lasts several hours :/

    This maybe set to become a ‘Legal minefield’.. esp. IF some of the Rich/Famous are caught up in this.. not just ‘Corky’s Bros’

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    • Corky

       /  19th December 2019

      Oh, to be sure. It won’t only be bros by a long shot. But if you could read and understand…which you can’t….my comments were about ”disproportion.’ Of Maori offending relative to their demographic numbers. It was also about lifestyle…a lifestyle that centres around drug use both both as a sedative from life’s miseries, and as a high for ‘good times.”

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      • WAKE UP & smell the ‘herbs’ corky..
        you think I dont read your comments.. perhaps; look in the mirror occassionally 😀

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        • Corky

           /  19th December 2019

          Well, if you read my comments, why did you post the above comment of yours?
          You don’t understand Maori culture. You always seek to deflect. There will be no deflecting once cannabis is legalised and drug testing commences. One of us will be
          proven to be full of bs.

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          • Zedd

             /  19th December 2019

            “oh dear.. how sad… NEVER MIND !”
            Thus spake the Sgt. Major

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  19th December 2019

              Did you know that the expressions he used, like that one and ‘Now then, lovely boys’ are real army ones from the time ? I didn’t until I read this somewhere..the name of the programme came from a soldier who used to end all his letters with ‘It ain’t half hot, Mum.’

              That was the golden age of English comedy.

  7. btw: they are also set to allow ‘Drug content testing’ (confirm contents, in pills etc.) at concerts/music festivals; a shift from Zero-tolerance to HARM reduction 🙂

    BUT; the staunch Prohibitionists are calling it ‘Defacto Decrim.’ of ALL Drugs.. perhaps they need to be reminded; its 2019, the world has finally moved on, from their 1950s hardline attitudes; that think Alcohol & Tobacco are OK, but everything else is NOT !

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  19th December 2019

      In the 50s people could buy amphetamines over the counter…imagine it. That generation can hardly complain about dope being available.

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  8. NOEL

     /  19th December 2019

    I believe the QSO and QSM should be amended to” Voluntary service to the community” only.
    They are usually deserving of recognition for their hard work.

    There should be another award for “services to the crown in the public sector, in elected or appointed office” at the QSM , QSO levels to defeat the political aspects of a nomination…

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  19th December 2019

    Australia….the lucky country,if you like 40c to 50c temperatures, being burnt to death in fires,eaten by bull or great white sharks snakes spiders,every other creature, you are truly safe avoiding these minor KILLERS, if you live in GODS OWN, you have avoided Sco Mo a rightwinger soon to be removed and WE HAVE Jacinda Ardern as our Prime Minister,NZ truly the LUCKY COUNTRY

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  19th December 2019

      They have more deadly species than any other country.

      I knew someone who was there when the temperature reached 52o…and her airconditioning died. The only way that she could sleep was to stand in the shower wearing a cotton nighty, wait till it was soaked and then lie under the ceiling fan….and repeat when the nighty dried and she woke up.

      The unofficial high was 64o. We think it’s hot when it’s 32.

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    • Pink David

       /  19th December 2019

      It’s reported as ‘Australia’s hottest day’ today, yet the place is all at the mid-twenties. A very pleasant spring day. I’ve been there when it was past 50 degs, why was that not the ‘hottest day’?

      I wonder just how far back they actually keep these ‘records’.

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  10. Corky

     /  19th December 2019

    Arthur Allan Thomas charged. Yeah, but this is a little strange for a variety of reasons.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12295303&ref=clavis

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  11. Corky

     /  20th December 2019

    Just heard the Police Association spokesman on talkback. He said 66% of his members would prefer to be armed at all times.

    Next the Police Minister was interviewed. He said he would feel uncomfortable with the prospect of police being armed at all times. He said our police are unique in the world.
    Yep…the minister would rather have our police dead but unique, rather than alive and not unique.

    Asked about those gun owners who still had not handed in there weapons. He said:

    ”Do the RIGHT thing.”

    Even the minister reads this blog. 😃✔

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  20th December 2019

      There’s a fable about a rooster who imagined that the sun rose in order to hear him crow every morning.

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  12. Corky

     /  20th December 2019

    Feral is not given food grant to buy booze and herb. This is what I hate about xmas. It adds
    more stress to people lives who are already under stress….and the innocent usually pay.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12295612

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  20th December 2019

      There’s nothing about a food grant there, no reason for his threats and actions was given, and as these are cards that can only be used at supermarkets the chances of buying alcohol and drugs are zero. Alcohol is one of the items that are not allowed to be bought with these grants.

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    • duperez

       /  20th December 2019

      I admit it – my reading skills are hopeless. I read the link three times and couldn’t find ‘not given food grant’ or ‘not given food grant to buy booze and herb.’ Or for that matter ‘feral.’

      I did see ‘after allegedly making a threat towards staff.’ I noted that often after such events there are contact numbers for mental health services yet none were listed here.

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      • Corky

         /  20th December 2019

        ”’I admit it – my reading skills are hopeless.”`

        And so are your predicting skills.

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      • Corky

         /  20th December 2019

        The government is going into next year not on the high they expected. I’ve noticed even columnists are starting to question Labours chances of winning the next election. Some citing the political collapse of the Left overseas as an indicator of what will follow here.

        Bruce Bisset, a freelance writer, who would be slightly to the left of Parti, has castigated Jacinda for crawling to her coalition partners instead of reining in farmers,bankers, forestry and roading companies. His article was headed: ”Sorry Jacinda, end is near.”

        Josie Pagani, a Lefty who stood for parliament, wrote a column titled: ”Jeremy Corbyn’s fate a warning for Labour in NZ.

        Quote;

        ”UK Labour didn’t just give up working class communities, it despised them. People used to join the Labour Party to make their lives better. Now they join to make someone else’s life better.

        NZ Labour’s red wall has already crumbled in the provinces. Otaki, Gisborne,New Plymouth and Taupo should all be Labour held seats. We need to look at the corrosive effects of a culture war. Environmentalism over equality. A sugar tax over a capital gains tax, Climate change over child poverty.”

        If I was Jacinda and reading this, none of my ministers would be having a Xmas break. But that’s the thing, Jacinda just thinks the RIGHT words at the RIGHT time will carry the people like she did during the Christchurch massacre ….It won’t.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  20th December 2019

            Duperez, I couldn’t see anything like that, either, and can’t see how this lack of evidence means that someone is useless at prediction.There are many reasons for a nutter to do this sort of thing, and guessing would be a waste of time.

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            • duperez

               /  20th December 2019

              Many reasons for a nutter to do this sort of thing? What thing? You mean jump to sinister conclusions?

              You mean condemn someone offhand in such a way, calling into question their human qualities yet in so doing suggest their own, while different, are no better?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  21st December 2019

              No. I said nothing like that. I have no idea what the reason was and it would be pointless to guess.

              Don’t put words into people’s mouths. If I’d meant those things, I’d have said them.

              I said that there are many reasons why a nutter would do something like this, and as I don’t know him or his history I am not going to waste time speculating or giving my speculation as if it was a fact.

            • duperez

               /  21st December 2019

              You misunderstood. You weren’t jumping to conclusions and being blindingly condemnatory.

  13. Corky

     /  20th December 2019

    I see the Hive is giving every Identity a run before Xmas: fascinating.🤔

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  14. Corky

     /  21st December 2019

    Muslims continue applying pressure to Western values without lifting a finger. From feral African youths in Melbourne, to culturally correct schools in England, and library murals in New Zealand.

    I’m told this is just a figment of my racist mindset. That I don’t understand. Islam is causing no harm apart from those feral terrorists which apparently Muslims disown. Really?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7793487/Fury-primary-school-tells-pupils-say-Baby-Boy-Jesus-instead-Lord-Jesus.html

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