Bushfires and climate change

There have been over the top and unsubstantiated claims made about the causes of the Australian bushfires, but also some plausible explanations.

There is no doubt that drought conditions and very high temperatures are linked to the fires, and also quite possibly have links to climate change.

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  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  3rd January 2020

    A stronger case can be made that it is directly due to bad land management primarily the fault of myopic environmentalists and power-grabbing bureaucracies.

    When the speculated record high temperature is only a fraction of a degree above the old record you can’t reasonably claim this as a catastrophic change.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  3rd January 2020

      The alarmists can.Little Greta must think that she’s been given a wonderful Christmas present, the chance to finger-point and make trite observations as she pontificates about whose fault it is.

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  3rd January 2020

    A little forethought goes a long way. When we built our cabins I encircled them with a driveway for protection against a grass fire. To plan and maintain protection against bushfires in Australia is just obsolete common-sense now taken out of the hands of property owners and given to idiot bureaucrats and irresponsible courts.

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  3. Ray

     /  3rd January 2020

    This gives some indigenous background

    And some more points of view

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    • Duker

       /  3rd January 2020

      The Aborigines used to start fires, the ‘colonisers’ want to put them out.
      Same thing in NZ, Maori initiated large fires which have led to the current treeless landscapes in South island in inland Hawkes Bay. There would have been fires before of course , but the arrival of humans leads to a noticeable increase in extent and frequency in burning which was increased again when forests were cleared by settlers for pasture

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  4. Conspiratoor

     /  3rd January 2020

    Soil temps and a prolonged drought have been factors but bungling beaurocrats and idiot politicians have been hard at work over many years to lay the foundation. It will be interesting to see if they acknowledge this and moreso to see if they commit to what needs to be done…

    “another element that must be taken into account surely is the locking-up of so much highly flammable forest country in national parks and nature reserves by Bob Carr’s Labor government in the late 1990s.

    Before that “greening” frenzy began, soon after Carr came to office in 1995, national parks and reserves accounted for some 4.8 per cent of NSW. Today the total area of the state controlled by the National Parks and Wildlife Service is more than 9pc.

    In less than 20 years, therefore, the area of national parks and related reserves has virtually doubled, but the resources deployed to manage this vastly expanding empire have not doubled with it.

    On the contrary, it was revealed last week that even since 2011, successive budget cuts have resulted in the NPWS slashing its staffing of rangers by one-third, thereby impairing its capacity to conduct hazard reduction burns.

    But before Carr took over, much of the coastal bushland now locked up in national park was prudently managed state forest, where fuel loads were kept down by logging programs, regular thinning and cattle grazing.”

    https://www.theland.com.au/story/6505133/forests-lock-up-has-left-us-a-time-bomb/

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    • Pink David

       /  3rd January 2020

      ” It will be interesting to see if they acknowledge this and moreso to see if they commit to what needs to be done”

      Not likely. They will just blame CO2. Much easier than understanding the actual causes.

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  5. Pink David

     /  3rd January 2020

    “There is no sensible doubt that the magnitude of this crisis is driven by climate change”

    There is absolutely truth in that. Much of the prescribed burn offs were cancelled or scaled back out of concern for climate change. One I know of in Nowa Nowa was intended to be 370a, but was reduced to 9. That was in October.

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    • Pink David

       /  3rd January 2020

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      • Duker

         /  4th January 2020

        And a long serving local fire chief
        “”It’s really simple,” says Brian Williams, captain of the Kurrajong Heights bushfire brigade, a veteran of 44 years of firefighting, in one of the most extreme fire risk areas of Australia, on a ridge surrounded by 0.75 million hectares of overgrown national park between the Blue Mountains and Wollemi.

        “Fires run on fuel. Limited fuel means limited fire.”

        Green tape and heavy-handed bureaucracy has made his job harder today than in 28 years as captain. Rather than needing six people to perform a controlled burn in the cooler months, now 40 are involved, to oversee biodiversity and so on.

        Williams managed to conduct just two of the five hazard reduction burns he planned before this fire season.”
        dailytelegraph.com.au

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  3rd January 2020

    Maybe we should swap leaders? Ardern could go over to Australia and empathise with everyone and Morrison could come here to build infrastructure and deregulate.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  3rd January 2020

      Alan you are a fuckwit, how can ScoMo build in NZ when he is PISSING UP in Hawaii, and think simon 10% bridges went over there to learn DIRTY TRICKS, the best an educated maori can hope to use in a white world is dirty tricks as a maori that the RIGHT Wing HATE, bridges is a maori,so is bennet another maori…JACINDA is a shoe in..2020,SHES WHITE

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  3rd January 2020

        Shoo in, but I hope that she won’t be.

        Scott Morrison is not in Hawaii now and probably wasn’t drunk when he was.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  3rd January 2020

        He’s not in Hawaii, not pissing up, right wing don’t hate Maori, Bridges and Bennet are part Maori, are not restricted to dirty tricks, and Jacinda is no whiter than Morrison and I am not a fuckwit.

        Are you pissed?

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  7. Duker

     /  3rd January 2020

    Let’s look at the official historical record in Victoria
    https://www.ffm.vic.gov.au/history-and-incidents/past-bushfires
    Sample 2003
    Eighty-seven fires were started by lightning in the north-east of Victoria on 8 January. Eight of these were unable to be contained and joined to form the largest fire in Victoria since the 1939 Black Friday bushfires.
    Burning for 59 days before being contained, the Alpine fires burned more than 1.3 million hectares, 41 homes and more than 9,000 livestock, with thousands of kilometres of fencing also destroyed.
    Areas affected included Mt Buffalo, Bright, Dinner Plain

    Sample 1969
    Two hundred and eighty fires broke out on this one day. Twelve reached major proportions and burned 250,000 hectares. Areas seriously affected included: Lara, Daylesford, Dulgana, Yea, Darraweit Guim, Kangaroo Flat and Korongvale.
    Twenty-three people died, including 17 motorists at Lara, trapped on the then highway between Geelong and Melbourne. The fires also destroyed 230 houses, 21 other buildings and more than 12,000 stock.

    The historical record tells up massive fires both in area and quantity are a regular occurrence. Long before the climate emergency.

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  8. Zedd

     /  3rd January 2020

    probably the biggest bushfires (in Aust.) on record & all the temperature graphs clearly showing the upward trend in global temperatures & STILL the C-C deniers are saying “NAH.. its just part of a normal cycle”..

    >pull your heads out of your ARSES & Grow Up !

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    • Pink David

       /  3rd January 2020

      If Australia follows the full recommendation for preventing more climate change, i.e. complete shut down of all coal mining and power stations, zero carbon emissions etc. can you please tell us when the bush fires will stop.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  3rd January 2020

      Can’t you read, Z? We are saying it is not normal because your loony Left have been preventing proper fire risk management and prevention.

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    • Corky

       /  3rd January 2020

      What about those fires deliberately lit? Is that a form of climate change fever affecting climate change scammers who aren’t just happy fleecing us..they now want to kill us! All for a good cause no doubt.

      As usual Zedd, too much time spent with your BONG.

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    • Duker

       /  4th January 2020

      Not the biggest bushfires in Australia ‘on record’- just a claim you have pulled out of your arse..
      Most that is said is …’most widespread’ …which means nothing and ‘most destructive’…just means that Aussies rebuild in bush fire prone areas. Plus the risk is increased because of wet spring weather which produces more undergrowth, not only the only the hot dry summers- which they have every year.

      Outside of the current hysteria we have had reasonable comparisons
      https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-environment/2011/11/the-worst-bushfires-in-australias-history/

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