Open Forum – 4 January

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    • Gerrit

       /  4th January 2020

      As we have so much “fake news” in the past, it is hard to differentiate between real or fake news.

      Is this real news? Who knows?

      I suspect it is fake as there is no corroborating evidence provided. No documents to verify truth, no names of people who will stand up in court to testify.

      I think the world is now so weary of any news being potentially fake that news organisiation will have to present much more background data for any story to be believed.

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      • Duker

         /  4th January 2020

        Are you a banker ? What sort of evidence do you need that will convince you …I guess that even if Trump admitted it you still wouldnt believe even that.
        “An insider has come forward with a stack of bank documents ..”
        “The insider, Val Broeksmit, is the son of William S. Broeksmit the Deutsche Bank executive who took his own life in 2015…..” AS THEY DO.
        Maybe a another brick in wall to explain about why Deutsche bank continued to lend to Trumps organisation even though he was a shit of a client and no one else would touch him

        “Over two decades, Trump was able to take out around $2.5 billion in loans from Deutsche Bank. The German financial institution continued to hand him loan checks even after he defaulted on $640 million and sued the bank!”

        There was also stuff on Trump and Deutsche from Mueller investigation that was never disclosed as it was ‘ongoing’…even the floors of the courthouse where the judges were considering legal issues were cleared ..only by accident did people in the know recognise Muellers lawyers

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  2. duperez

     /  4th January 2020

    A few people got excited about Andy Foster beating Justin Lester in the Wellington mayoralty race. No doubt they will be making sure that when it comes to discussion and decisions about some developments in Wellington they will have their ‘conflict of interest’ eyes keenly focussed.

    “Andy Foster is grappling with the cost of Sir Peter Jackson’s companies bankrolling half of his mayoral campaign. That $30,000 and the name recognition the famous filmmaker brought was pivotal to Foster’s success, but it’s less helpful now he’s in office. Whether it’s Shelly Bay, a movie museum, or a military museum, the new mayor has an awkward question on his hands.”
    (Georgina Campbell: NZ Herald)

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    • Gerrit

       /  4th January 2020

      duperez;

      Ha, think that is bad and just imagine if $30K buys as much influence as you infer, how much influence does the Chinese state have over Auckland mayor Goff with a $250K donation through an auction?

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11712664

      And how much did the Chinese State influence the then list MP Ardern who was present.

      You speculate over Wellington mayoralty, we will speculate on the Chinese influence in Auckland and the current government.

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      • duperez

         /  4th January 2020

        I asked Jian Yang and he told me the Chinese state has no influence in Auckland and on the current government.

        I did not infer $30K buys influence in Wellington. I pondered whether Wellington citizens would see conflict of interest for their mayor.

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        • Gerrit

           /  4th January 2020

          I guess the people of Auckland see no conflict of interest as they reelected Goff.

          Same in Wellington I guess, no conflicts of interest despite those insinuating there might be one.

          Bet Georgina Campbell never bothered to do a “Goff Contribution Mayor Fund” search in the Herald archives. A simple DuckDuckGo search found it on the interwebby thingy.

          And if she had why not write a balanced editorial/column to compare the Auckland and Wellington mayor fund contributions, and ask if Goff had any “awkward question on his hands”.

          Gutter journalism for virtue seekers consumption. No balance, no comparisons, not even a direct question to either mayor (though to be fair the standard of journalism is so low, the fact that Goff had major donations to his campaign was probably beyond the journalist’s scope of understanding her need for professionalism.

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          • duperez

             /  4th January 2020

            Maybe Campbell penned the piece as a Wellington journalist writing about a Wellington situation. Suggesting that it’s gutter journalism for virtue seekers because it doesn’t compare what happens or happened in other towns is just silly.

            Reading that piece and making the jump to ‘the journalist’s scope of understanding her need for professionalism’ is ridiculous.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  4th January 2020

          If other people infer it, that’s not because you implied it.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  4th January 2020

          Surely the question is whether the mayor sees a conflict of interest and what he does about it.

          If he campaigned on an issue I see no conflict in carrying through with it. If he did not then stepping aside from debate and voting on it is the accepted practice.

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      • Duker

         /  4th January 2020

        Theres more influence…
        “Two bottles of wine, signed by Prime Minister John Key and Opposition Leader Andrew Little, fetched $25,000.”

        This was back in 2016 though

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      • Blazer

         /  4th January 2020

        Just because Dr Jiang a former CCP spy trainer is a [deleted] M/P in Parliament and is a ‘good’ fundraiser there is no reason to think influence is a saleable commodity….is there!

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  3. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  4th January 2020

    New web site launched on the activities of and promises made by our Prime Minister

    https://maga.net.nz/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  4th January 2020

      Maggy, how nice to see you again. I was afraid that you had been turned off YNZ because of a troll whom I won’t name.

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      • Maggy Wassilieff

         /  4th January 2020

        I seem to attract trolls… perhaps it’s because I live on a maunga (tho’ it’s very small) or maybe my apotropaic gargoyles aren’t working.

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        • Corky

           /  4th January 2020

          And folk with bad manners…birds of feather post together?😃

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        • Corky

           /  4th January 2020

          Your apotropaic gargoyles need to be ”magically loaded” before they will assume guard dog duties.Otherwise your home is an open door to 4th dimensional intruders.

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          • Maggy Wassilieff

             /  4th January 2020

            They’ve worked against the Mormons so far (5 years), but the J.W.s sneak by.

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    • Dumping on an incumbent government (that is always going to underperform) is standard politics, and relatively easy.

      It’s a lot harder to build credibility as an alternative, but that’s more important.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  4th January 2020

        In this case, though, the things mentioned are all true.

        Labour seems to think that people won’t know that anything ‘free’ is paid for by someone else. Free medical checks are paid for by other taxpayers.

        The longwinded ‘joke’ about Simon Bridges and Winston Peters is tedious as all such long jokes tend to be and is also unoriginal; it’s based on an equally longwinded American one. It’s not worth going through so much to get so little.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  4th January 2020

      Tweeted the link to the site to Jacinda Ardern,so if she follows up i hope hollysheet is squeaky clean and has good libel insurance if it comes to that….they say free speech comes at a cost ie how dear your lawyers are.

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      • Maggy Wassilieff

         /  4th January 2020

        Oh, that would be a winning election year strategy for a Prime Minister, I’m sure… get sucked into a defamation case during the Campaign.

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    • Duker

       /  4th January 2020

      “New web site launched on the activities of and promises made by our Prime Minister”

      The old crew from dirty politics days are back in operation…Jason Eade never really went away and now facebook and twitter means they can mostly avoid the middle men like Slater , Farrar ( who is back to publishing hit jobs without sourcing them again)

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    • Blazer

       /  5th January 2020

      Stuff…’The Asia editor of the Financial Times, Jamil Anderlini, tweeted: “Why is the leader of New Zealand’s biggest opposition party meeting with the head of China’s secret police? And why is he in Beijing with a New Zealand member of parliament who spent 15 years working for Chinese military intelligence?”

      I was thinking ,maybe Bridges has his house for sale and wants a really good price..just like…!

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    • Blazer

       /  7th January 2020

      can’t hold a candle to John Key’s lies…documented over ..400.

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  4. Lurcher1948

     /  4th January 2020

    WHAT A LAUGH,2020 elections ,have the blue rince brigade? Big money national voters in Remurera and in other BIG MONEY areas reliese simon bridges is ethnic OPPS a maori,where did that nice sir key a whitey go to and horror of horrors Paula Bennet is coloured too wheres Billy English. JAcinda,Ardern a shoe in

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    • Corky

       /  5th January 2020

      I think this issue is a reflection of our national psyche of venerating sporting prowess over intellectual excellence. It’s a form of discrimination… the same type of discrimination that saw the creation of the Maori Sports Awards. Maori, in their opinion, where not getting the
      sporting accolades they deserved for sporting excellence.

      The same type of discrimination that cost me being a college prefect because I had given up rugby to go surfing.

      Meanwhile, let’s remember our true Dames and Knights. People like ‘Meals On Wheels’
      volunteers who work tirelessly for little recognition.

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  5. Corky

     /  5th January 2020

    I previously posted a clip showing air force pilots tracking UFO’s. It was suggested these were just fuzzy aberrations… even though we are talking about AF pilots.

    This seems to me a case of one arm of the AF, not telling the other arm the truth about this phenomenon.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/navy-confirms-ufo-videos-trnd/index.html

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  6. Corky

     /  5th January 2020

    The dangers of relying on the internet. It has no substance in reality. Sure it can make you money..as long as it’s operating and people like you. Imagine a cashless society, all your capital online…then you are deleted.

    I don’t know whether to feel sorry for this sheila, or not.

    https://www.indy100.com/article/jessy-taylor-crying-instagram-influencer-video-9-to-5-job-account-deleted-8863851

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  7. Corky

     /  6th January 2020

    People are ringing 111 about the orange skies. For fuggs sake..what should common sense tell these idiotic morons? My guess, because this isn’t really a question of intelligence; more about ignorance, is we have a new generation of people who know little of the world outside their social media profile.

    I call that a national emergency.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  6th January 2020

      They may have thought that there was a fire near them. The orange skies would make this credible. Auckland has had some major fires like the one at Sky City, so it’s not that stupid to think that another one has happened. Anyone who’s been anywhere near a large fire will know what that it lights up the sky.

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    • Blazer

       /  7th January 2020

      omg..I thought the orange skies were just the Trump…halo effect.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th January 2020

        There have been bush fires in NZ recently, so it would be a reasonable thing to think. Better to raise the alarm needlessly than to assume that if it’s an emergency other people will do so.

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  8. Corky

     /  6th January 2020

    Further to my comment above:

    Quote:

    ”Police did not feel the need to offer the same advice when smoke from Australia’s bush fires drifted over parts of the South Island.”

    Hmmm…I wonder why that was?

    https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-national/police-dont-call-111-because-sky-yellow

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  9. Corky

     /  6th January 2020

    ”Posing as Thunberg’s father Svante, Stolyarov tells Waters the pair are in North Carolina to discuss a threatened island called “Chongo-Chango”

    Lol..and these people think they could do a better job than Trumpy?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/05/maxine-waters-russian-prank-greta-thunberg

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  10. Corky

     /  6th January 2020

    Feral wants Righties money to give to others. This chap adheres to da ”Rich Prick Philosophy.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/118534770/why-an-increasingly-unequal-new-zealand-needs-a-wealth-tax

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  6th January 2020

      Yet another ignorant Lefty dickhead journalist. As if most property owners have any income benefit from inflated values caused by loony Lefty regulation. And as if the minority who do don’t have the ability and incentive quickly to remove themselves from the scope of his proposed tax.

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      • Blazer

         /  7th January 2020

        you have NFI Al.
        For a start Key’s govt had 9 years to deregulate whatever it is you flock on about.

        Present inflation is a direct result of Q.E .

        The Fed in the Greenspan years became a funding ,bystander for the big Wall St banks who ramped up their one way bets in a casino where heads they win,tails…they win.

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        • Pink David

           /  7th January 2020

          ” the big Wall St banks who ramped up their one way bets in a casino where heads they win,tails…they win.”

          How did Lehman Brothers manage to go bust then? Was that…..winning?

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          • Blazer

             /  7th January 2020

            no that was a token sacrifice…Bear Sterns,Merrill Lynch ,in fact the whole lot were insolvent.
            They managed to convince the powers that be that the whole financial system was at risk if the bailout was not under taken.

            You just have to look at the market caps of JPMorgan,Wachovia,Wells Fargo,Goldman Sachs,and Citibank before and after de regulation .

            The old role of banking became redundant as new ‘investment products’ were unleashed and ramped up safe in the knowledge that gambling at the casino was underwritten by…taxpayers.

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            • Corky

               /  7th January 2020

              Ah, Blazer, just the identity I wanted to see. What was that you used to say about National and Cambridge Analytica?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  7th January 2020

          Usual crap from you B. Key had a majority to deregulate only for 3 years in which he got hit with both the GFC and the Chch earthquake disaster. You know that but you b.s. anyway.

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          • Blazer

             /  7th January 2020

            So 3 years wasn’t enough!!!!

            Found the time to allow high country pastoral leases to be bought privately amongst plenty of other legislation!

            Feeble,pathetic, excuses Al.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  7th January 2020

              No, it wasn’t enough. Of course you could have dealt with the GFC, earthquake disaster and revolutionised planning and building regulations without getting out of bed, and probably did.

            • Blazer

               /  7th January 2020

              National borrowed around 80 billion to ‘deal’ with the GFC (created by Keys former colleagues)and the Chch earthquakes.

              Every Govt deals with situations,-thats what voters expect them to do.

              How many years do you think are required to enact the legislation you want to see,as a property developer?

            • Duker

               /  7th January 2020

              Christchurch earthquake extra government spending was around $10 bill, more than repaid from the GST from insurance payouts ( about $35 bill?) and then GST again on rebuilds by home owners.
              Companies just pocketed the cash thank you.
              The GFC was well over by 2013 , but the borrowing continued right up till the 2017 budget .

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  7th January 2020

              I would expect it to take all of three years considering the massive bureaucracy, courts and thousands of pages of laws, regulations, rules and planning documents currently operative, not to mention the thousands of paper pushers and “experts” currently employed by its make work schemes.

          • Blazer

             /  7th January 2020

            you are forgetting that ad 9 years in opposition,where they formulated reform of the RMA…so time was hardly an issue.
            Why did high country pastoral leases take priority.?

            Hint- you will find Key now owns one.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  8th January 2020

              Garbage.

            • Blazer

               /  8th January 2020

              You are in denial…your usual state…

              rom the Stuff article:
              Some of those who bought land that was formerly Crown leases include Peter Thiel, Graham Hart, and Sir John Key. Some of the most expensive properties advertised for sale in New Zealand are on former pastoral leases.
              In numerous cases, land that was privatised by the Crown for significantly less than market value was quickly on-sold for enormous profits.
              This land was sold to private investors, by our government, for a fraction of its value.
              This was a real, tangible example of immoral wealth transfer by successive liberal governments starting with the fourth National government. Taking something that could have belonged to all of us, and giving it to a handful of individuals who made enormous amounts of profit from it. Destroying our wetlands and our high country.
              For the profit of a few individuals.
              Including foreign billionaires and our former PM.’

  11. Alan Wilkinson

     /  6th January 2020

    For heavens sake, don’t mention the cricket.

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  12. Pink David

     /  7th January 2020

    Rciky Gervais hits it out of the park….

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  13. Corky

     /  7th January 2020

    Just watched one news. An Aussie MP said one thing contributing to the fires was an accumulation of undergrowth debris. He was immediately castigated by a meteorologist and no doubt climate change scammer. This woman said Sydney (?) had just experienced it hottest day on record. Nobody stopped to ask this crook if modified weather conditions and heat from the fires had any thing to do with this SINGLE reading.

    I would have paid good coin to have been part of the TV interview. Dealing to that shrill scammer would have been an absolute pleasure.

    The other thing I would pay good coin for would be to watch the North Korean leader – Kim Jong-il, being tortured by a specialist team from Langley. This murderous animal should be entitled to the best America has to offer.

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    • “and no doubt climate change scammer”

      That sounds like no more than an uninformed smear of someone you disagree with.

      I think it is abhorrent to want to watch anyone being tortured.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th January 2020

        I have known people who have been tortured. The history master at my high school was a young teenager when he was sent to Aushwitz. I thought that he was a very old man and wondered why he was still teaching, but he was just on retiring age. His hair was white, he walked with a shuffling walk and his hands were deformed.

        This was because the Germans had pulled all his nails out and smashed his hands and feet with a sledgehammer. He somehow survived. It must have been near the end.

        I taught ESOL and some of my students had been tortured. Not something I’d want to watch. Seeing the results was bad enough.

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        • Blazer

           /  7th January 2020

          yeah right,another b/s artist no doubt like..thuis woman from Spielbergs fantasy ‘The Last Days’.
          Irene Zisblatt was an alleged Jewish prisoner at Auschwitz, other Holocaust camps, and a “witness” for the politically correct view on the Holocaust. In 2008 the book “The Fifth Diamond” about her alleged experiences was published. Among other claims she has claimed that Josef Mengele removed her tattoo in an experiment and that she managed to keep hidden several diamonds by swallowing them, excreting them, cleaning them and then swallowing them again.[1]

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  8th January 2020

            Rubbish. Mr K had the tattoo to prove it. How dare you call him a liar ? You didn’t know him or see his hands. His hands had been smashed and left to heal themselves, and they looked like it. His nails had been pulled out. No one could fake that.

            You must have seen photos and film footage of Holocaust victims. Do you think that those are all fakes and lies ?

            One liar pretending to be a Holocaust survivor doesn’t mean that everyone who survived the Holocaust is one.Is she the woman who met the other notorious fake survivor and had to pretend to remember him?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  8th January 2020

              I see that she isn’t. The one I was thinking of was not only not a Holocaust survivor, she wasn’t even Jewish and wasn’t in Europe at the time.

              There are always those who cash in on tragedies, like the ones now who are collecting money supposedly for the victims of the fires but actually for themselves.

              Your vicious smear of Mr K, who went through unimaginable horrors is unjustified and a lie.You don’t know him. I did. At no time did he seek publicity. He told the story to the pupils at the school and showed his tattoo. He never tried to cash in on it. He is still alive, I am glad to say.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  8th January 2020

            Perhaps you think that he pulled his own nails out and smashed his hands and feet himself.

            Two very sick people are here.

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        • Blazer

           /  8th January 2020

          ‘his was because the Germans had pulled all his nails out and smashed his hands and feet with a sledgehammer.’

          did he mention why on earth they would do this?

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      • Corky

         /  7th January 2020

        ”That sounds like no more than an uninformed smear of someone you disagree with.”

        I back up my comments with facts. Here’s the link to the story shown on One News tonight.

        .https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/aussie-mp-insists-he-hasnt-embarrassed-government-after-being-dubbed-climate-denier-british-tv?auto=6120141927001

        The thing is – this clip has been edited from that shown on the news tonight. This bit is missing:

        ”Good Morning Britain host Laura Tobin called Mr Kelly a “climate denier” with Piers Morgan telling the MP to “wake up”.

        There was a bit more to it than that. Why do you think this piece was edited, Pete?

        Now you talk about uniformed smears…. that is what I was responding to. This type of bs
        deserves a vicious response. You cannot reason with ignorant.

        ”I think it is abhorrent to want to watch anyone being tortured.”

        Well, I’m the sweetest guy you would ever meet. However, life has taught me we have forgotten about the force known as evil. Many now think evil is an abstract description of ignorance…and that perpetrators can be helped. Some can, most can’t , in my opinion.
        You may have noticed I’m about the only poster who keeps victims and the innocent to the fore in my comments. Some times it’s disheartening to watch evil win time and again. I would like to watch evil not win in this case..and to see some of the bullies own medicine given back to him. It’s about utu.

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        • “This type of bs deserves a vicious response.”

          Sounds like the ‘vicious response’ is made up bs. I don’t see any facts that support it.

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          • Corky

             /  8th January 2020

            The facts from my perspective have been canvassed on this blog previously.
            I was just highlighting another smug [deleted] running at the mouth with no fear of censure. Climate Change nutters seem to hunt in packs as the clip shows

            To be fair, I was listening to Aussie correspondent, Murray Olds on talkback this morning. He related that the Aussie MP in said clip is a minor MP few like or care about. Apparently Olds said this chap is so thick he has to wear slip-ons because he can’t tie shoelaces. Olds BELIEVES he was deliberately chosen for the interview because it would make good theatre. Also not shown in the clip is this MP calling a highly lettered meteorologist… the ‘Weather Girl.”

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        • Blazer

           /  8th January 2020

          are you one of the…’Goodies’?

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  7th January 2020

      Torture is illegal under the Geneva Convention. It’s hardly something that America can be proud of, nor should it be treated as entertainment and watched as such.

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      • Blazer

         /  7th January 2020

        Daily occurrence in Gitmo…water boarding the favourite.

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        • Corky

           /  8th January 2020

          Poor Kitty can’t see a business opportunity even if it fell in her lemonade, Blazer. The world is full of sociopaths, sadists and psychopaths. They would love to take in a torture show.

          Gitmo Tours..playing now.! I personally wouldn’t go to Gitmo. The place has no screws assessable to prisoners because they have been known to remove them; sharpen, and then try to slit the guard’s throat. The worst of the worst in there.

          Of course it would be a goldmine for authorities. They would get to profile patrons. Maybe save the taxpayer a lot of money in the future.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  8th January 2020

            As you said that you would like to see this and would pay good money to do so, are you classing yourself with the sociopaths, sadists and psychopaths who want to see torture ‘shows’ ?

            Five PDTs seem to think that torture is entertainment and should be a source of pride to the torturers’ country.

            The idea that anyone would make a business out of this or even consider doing so is utterly abhorrent. The idea of wanting to gawp at torture and get a thrill from it is beyond revolting.

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    • Pink David

       /  7th January 2020

      The Royal Commission will come up with exactly the same recommendation as the Royal Commission into the 1939 bush fires, more controlled burning off season.

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    • Duker

       /  7th January 2020

      “Nobody stopped to ask this crook if modified weather conditions and heat from the fires had any thing to do with this SINGLE reading.”

      The 48.9 reading was at Penrith , right at the foot of the Blue Mountains- chosen because of that geography with the wind coming down off the mountains ( fern affect)will produce hot temperatures.
      Its only been recording at this site since 1995
      http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_067113.shtml

      More correctly , its the hottest at this site since 1995 . There is something like 15 other “Sydney” weather stations to chose from
      http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/sydneymap.shtml

      In the US they played a similar trick with Death Valley ‘records’ by putting a new station right up close to the bare rocks of a steep slope to make sure some new high temps will be recorded .
      The standard location out on the valley itself at Furnace Creek has been recording for almost 100 years

      map showing the ‘new’ location below the steep cliffs to Dantes peak

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      • Duker

         /  7th January 2020

        Mis spelt its Foehn
        It is a ….wind that results from the subsequent adiabatic warming of air that has dropped most of its moisture on windward slopes …”
        This is what happened at Penrith, as the wind picked up the humidity dropped way down to 10% and the temperature rose…. as it was intended to do
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind
        People in canterbury know all about these hot , very dry winds as they sweep down from the Alps and across the plains.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  8th January 2020

          I was in Christchurch once when the hot wind was blowing. It was 40o there and the wind felt like a giant fan heater.

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