Shane Jones diverts to copious meat eating as further questions raised about company links

This story seems to keep coming up, with more suggestions that Shane Jones must have known more than he has admitted about a NZ First linked company’s application for Provincial Growth Fund money.

I wonder if this is and attempt at diversion: NZ First MP and Minister Shane Jones takes aim at ‘eco-bible-bashing’ climate-change activists

Outspoken NZ First MP and Minister Shane Jones has launched a scathing attack on climate-change activists who want Kiwis to eat less meat, blasting their form of “eco bible bashing”.

He has compared them to “medieval torture chamber workers” and has vowed to rally against this sort of “absolutism” as Election 2020 draws closer.

His comments come after the Government, of which he is a Minister, announced school children would be taught about climate change in class.

Suggesting people eat less meat (which for most is good for your health) is nothing like ‘absolutism’, whatever that’s supposed to mean.

“I won’t be desisting from eating copious qualities of kaimoana [seafood] or meat – that’s how I grew up”…

…is a surprising stance (if he’s actually serious) from someone who looks to have an obesity problem.

A heart attack from clogged up arteries would be a sort of absolutism if fatal.

Back to more questions about his absolutism denials unravelling some more: NZ First-linked company in government loan bid says it met with Shane Jones

A forestry company with close links to New Zealand First says it gave a presentation to Shane Jones about a project it was seeking a $15 million government loan for – months before Jones says he first heard of it.

When NZ Future Forest Products (NZFFP) applied for Provincial Growth Fund money on 8 April, 2019, the company was asked whether the project had been “previously discussed” with the government.

The application form shows NZFFP ticked the ‘yes’ box and said it had made a “presentation to the Minister” about its forestry and wood processing plans “including descriptions of the applicant”.

Jones, a New Zealand First MP who is forestry minister and the minister responsible for the $3 billion Provincial Growth Fund, has consistently claimed he first heard about the NZFFP bid on 14 October last year.

NZFFP’s directors include Brian Henry, lawyer to New Zealand First Party leader Winston Peters, judicial officer of the party and one of two trustees of the New Zealand First Foundation, and NZ First leader Winston Peters’ partner Jan Trotman, who joined the company in August 2019.

Jones refused to be interviewed over the latest revelation but in a statement said the presentation never happened. “There was no presentation as described by the applicants,” he said.

The statement said Jones “did not have any Ministerial meetings to discuss the application”.

After being asked if he had any meetings at all with any NZFFP representatives in 2019, he responded in a statement “no”. He went on to say he was “not involved in PGF-related conversations with the Henrys under the guise of NZFFP”.

But in an interview with RNZ, David Henry, who is Brian Henry’s son and the NZFFP director who signed the application form, said the presentation was a 15-minute meeting he and Jones had in Wellington.

“We had a discussion with Shane. I think it was about a 15-minute chat. Whether you want to call it a briefing or a presentation – it was a short discussion generally about the New Zealand wood supply chain and what we personally believed.”

Take from that what you like.

I think that Jones has become as political slippery as Winston Peters.

 

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  1. duperez

     /  20th January 2020

    Shane Jones ‘met’ with… Met with? Mmmmmm … something sinister happened. Ah, describe ‘presentation.’

    Next: National office broken into. ‘Political motives can’t be ruled out.’ Mmmmm …

    I wish I worked in the media. The opportunities to be creative with the language would be so good. 🙂

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  20th January 2020

      I do wish that people wouldn’t say ‘met with’ when they mean ‘met’. Met with is quite different.
      One meets with an accident or other disaster.

      That may, of course, apply to encounters with Shane Jones.

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  2. Blazer

     /  20th January 2020

    long bow to call a short informal chat,a …meeting.

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    • Corky

       /  20th January 2020

      But, but… you weren’t so circumspect when criticising Banskie.

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      • Blazer

         /  20th January 2020

        because,because Banksie is an..arsehole.

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        • Corky

           /  20th January 2020

          At least you are being honest. Let your skewered hate spew out. Hate is the bane of your average Lefty. Like rust, it never sleeps.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  20th January 2020

            Bane means scourge or plague,(among other things), so is not really applicable here.And I think that you must mean skewed (slanted) rather than skewered like a kebab or hot dog.

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          • Corky

             /  20th January 2020

            Bane:
            1.
            a cause of great distress or annoyance.

            Skewered:
            2.
            A long pin of wood or metal for inserting through meat or other food to hold or bind it in cooking.

            Linear thought process = non creative literal expression.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  21st January 2020

              Skewered hate is meaningless, even as a metaphor*. A metaphor needs to make some sort of sense “The moon was a ghostly galleon, tossed upon cloudy seas/The road was a ribbon of darkness, over the purple moor’. These are metaphors and also make sense. I would suggest that you look up the meaning of metaphor.

              Using a word incorrectly does not make it creative.

              Bane is someone else’s curse or plague, not that of the person or thing that is the bane. ‘Shoplifters are the bane of shopkeepers’ lives.’ does not mean that the shoplifters are the bane of their own lives.

              I told you the meaning of bane and skewered, you appeared from your misuse not to understand what they meant and did NOT appear to be using them creatively. Repeating their meanings after looking them up doesn’t make a wrong use right. I would venture to say that you were using them literally (you imagined) but incorrectly.

              * It’s from the Greek and is a figure of speech in which someone or something is given an attribute from something else. ‘That man is a wolf.’
              is a metaphor. ‘That man is like a wolf.’ is a simile.

        • duperez

           /  20th January 2020

          Normally that would beg a request for proof.

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  3. artcroft

     /  21st January 2020

    So Jones lied, why am not surprised. Get these people out of our politics.

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    • Blazer

       /  21st January 2020

      if you got the liars out of politics it would be an empty …space.

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    • Corky

       /  21st January 2020

      Arty, that’s like taking beef bones out of trail slop – you would be left with nothing.

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    • Duker

       /  21st January 2020

      Get these people out of politics ?
      That would have disqualified Key well before becoming PM. There was the shares he didnt have in rail while asking questions in Parliament about rail. The home in Helensville electorate which he would have signed a statuary declaration to say he had ‘lived there at least a month’ when all along he was living in Remuera and signing company declarations saying so.

      So what is the problem ? Jones declared a connection to the business ( although he personally wasnt connected) when their application for PGG funding came up, wasnt involved in decision making, which was declined in any case.
      Is it a surprise that the Henry family, who have been involved in forestry business in NZ for over a century ( they founded and ran the NZ Forest Products with its mills in Kinleith, Whakatane and Auckland) are interested in building a new Mill in the Gisborne area . Does that sound like a provincial growth initiative to you – yes it does and so they should have applied.

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      • artcroft

         /  21st January 2020

        No it sounds like what it is, a conflict of interest, so they shouldn’t have applied.

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        • Duker

           /  21st January 2020

          Nope. The decision makers didnt include anybody with a connection to the applicant, Jones recused himself. But it wasnt approved anyway.
          Cant you understand simple facts ?

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  4. adamsmith1922

     /  21st January 2020

    IMHO Jones was trying to deflect with his rant about eating meat. He has been caught out again

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  5. Corky

     /  21st January 2020

    He doesn’t like ‘aphid lovers.’ He’s mining a rich vain of voters who’ve had it up to the eyeballs with shrill meat haters and climate change nutters, many who will over the coming months and years become seriously ill from malnutrition. As Adamsmith says, Jones is also deflecting. Two birds with one stone…the man is no fool (?).

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    • artcroft

       /  21st January 2020

      He’s playing to fools Corky. Like his master before him.

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      • Duker

         /  21st January 2020

        Hes just playing the media questions by juggling different ‘political hats’ – as hes learnt from Key the art of deflecting questions by doing so. Regardless of which hat , Jones declared a- very remote connection- wasnt involved in decisions and for other reasons it didnt happen.
        Even a fool can see the appropriate procedures were followed, but as in the other story – flood the context with shit – and hope that some sticks.

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  6. Duker

     /  21st January 2020

    “Whether you want to call it a briefing or a presentation – it was a short discussion generally about the New Zealand wood supply chain and what we personally believed.””

    So they cant even say it was about the proposed mill in Gisborne just ‘wood supply chain’.
    There also part that PG ‘left out’ because he was running out of space.

    “Henry said he couldn’t recall when the meeting was, where it was, who else was at the meeting or who set the meeting up. He also could not recall whether this was the first meeting he’d had with Jones or whether he mentioned the name of the NZFFP company.”
    Not that some sort of didnt chat didnt happen , but doesnt sound like even NZFPP can remember when, where and who.
    But remember the meme is to create shit storms in the media and wait for them to be amplified

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    • duperez

       /  21st January 2020

      RNZ Morning Report started its 2020 year and wanted a big exclusive, dramatic story. The Jones’ story is it. At least some of those most likely to go crazy about the story/non-story must’ve recalled the John Key favourite line ‘I cannot recall’ and haven’t been demanding Jones’ resignation for that simple bit.

      Paula Bennett and Paul Goldsmith were the next cabs off the rank with help trying to make a break-in at the National Office in Greenland an appalling political attack.

      Jones? He tries to be the boofhead buffoon (and succeeds). He is despised for his arrogance and playing to the gallery (even if just a gallery of himself), he gets up people’s noses and is lambasted for being a smartarse clown. I am sure there are many who judge similarly outlandish behaviour from Trump as unique, outstanding, masterful and make him a champion yet they would have Jones as scum. I like that paradox.

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  7. Blazer

     /  21st January 2020

    ‘trying to make a break-in at the National Office in Greenland an appalling political attack.’

    they surely did that…stated it was a discreet office down an alley when it had a huge billboard on one of NZ’s busiest roads.

    Low c#@%^&

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