David Garrett at Kiwiblog suggested I also post this here. Thanks for your advice David. Funny to see you playing interference for NZ First and The BFD.
In response to a post at Kiwiblog on The mute PM
to covertly photograph journalists to try and intimidate them and their sources.”
The taking of the photos is just a small part of the problem.
The photos were then handed on to The BFD, which has been acting as a shill for NZ First (and running an agenda of trying to undermine Bridges and drive a division in National).
The nature of the original post using the photos was threatening towards the journalists – implicating them in illegal activities that were the subject of a complaint to the police.
Threatening legal repercussions is not new to Peters, he has used lawyers, police complaints and legal actions for years to try to shut up and intimidate critics.
Legal threats and actions were also used by Cameron Slater via Whale Oil and via the courts. They contributed to his crashing and burning, but his associates at The BFD sem to have learned nothing and are trying the same legal intimidation tactics.
On Friday SB/Juna Atkins/Slater’s wife took some ownership of the photos and attacks on journalists investigating the NZ First Foundation.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/02/a-radio-station-is-scared-of-a-website/
And yesterday ‘Xavier Theodore Reginald Ordinary’ ramped up his attacks and threats.
He confirmed that NZ First supplied him with the photos:
NZ First supporters in Tauranga would’ve been on the lookout for proof of those two reporters meeting Lester Gray. They got lucky. Anyone would’ve done the same if under attack.
That’s nonsense, but confirms the connection.
I’m outraged that they’ve accused Cameron Slater of publishing the photos, when it was my article. I’ve got hurty feelings now.
I think he is probably right, Slater may not have published the photos. But he looks like a long time associate of Slater (and user of Slater for a lot of the WO dirty politics).
But Atkins is obviously involved. And ironically Slater did his first (under his name and not via SB) post himself when this blew up on he BFD and NZ First on Friday, unfortunate timing for him perhaps.
If that is the case then any defamation action against Guyon Espiner and Radio New Zealand is likely to go badly for them. Now that would be something to get upset about instead of crying like a baby over a few photos.
More legal threats against journalists, this time defamation (you’d think that Slater’s disasters would have taught them something, perhaps it did, but it hasn’t stopped the use of legal threats).
Corporal Jones was dead right when he said they don’t like it up ’em.
It was a ‘tough’ post, but when it’s about hypocrisy that’s really funny. Slater was a big cry baby when things blew up on him. Mr Ordinary may find out that getting too close to the dirty action himself may backfire on him. I expect journalists will be doing some investigating.
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Alan Wilkinson
/ 16th February 2020So do you think this is Slater’s old Dirty Politics mentor and manipulator still axe-grinding for peanuts?
Pete George
/ 16th February 2020To me it doesn’t look like Slater is leading the agenda but he is obviously connected.
Because Slater had was not posting at The BFD under his name (initially to try to fool courts that he was too incapacitated to appear) it looks his old Dirty Politics mentor and manipulator started posting under a new name. The style of Xavier etc is very much like some of the old WO posts done under Slater’s name, but a few different styles came up there.
And the agenda has some very familiar dirty politics methods.
In November 2018 Winston denied that political promoter Simon Lusk had anything to do with NZ First, but at the same time Shane Jones admitted that Lusk was involved in fundraising events for NZ First.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156891
Then and recently Richard Harman at Politik has raised similar connections.
NOEL
/ 16th February 2020What’s a “shill”?
Pete George
/ 16th February 2020https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Internet-shill
That sounds to me like a very apt description.
Kitty Catkin
/ 16th February 2020It’s a very old Yiddish expression, meaning a fake bidder who drives the price up by making bids in order to make real bidders pay more or pretends to be a customer who admires the goods and encourages people to buy them. It was done at street markets. I don’t know if the bystanders who encouraged mugs to bet on things like the pea and thimble game and who were, of course, in cahoots with the crook running the game were called shills or not. Probably.
NOEL
/ 16th February 2020Ahh got it. Shrill a political put down.
Was tempted to read no further but out of curiosity continued.
On getting to Cookes comment it became obvious that the attack NZFirst at any opportunity has spread to tarnish by association.
As debated earlier the move from an opinion to a criminal investigation makes Cookes concern redundant.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 16th February 2020Curious as to which party you feel is tarnished by their evident association: NZF, Winston, Lusk or Slater?
Kitty Catkin
/ 16th February 2020Shill, not shrill.
NOEL
/ 16th February 2020Obvious. Cookes concern was of the PM not commenting written before the opinion was elevated to criminal investigation.
Common now to quote him without context.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 16th February 2020Not so obvious when there are so many candidates. But obviously coalition partners are always in danger of tarnishing each other until they publicly divorce.
Duker
/ 16th February 2020Cookes concern was more about nothing to write for Saturday before deadline during the week.
Cant write anything about Simon and money since Bridges legal threat still hangs over all the political journos since the JLR.
Peters is berated over a few photos taken in public while Bridges legal threats ‘to a freedom of the press’ are mostly not written about ( only one let the cat out of the bag that he had done so to all the ‘political editors’)
Duker
/ 16th February 2020I see Vance is playing protector as today
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/119531489/snooping-on-journalists-is-an-attempt-to-silence-and-shut-them-down
Sources blah blah…
She conveniently ignores that the protection of sources only applies to the agencies of the state using their powers of compulsion….
And no because the two journos have been outed doesnt mean they are going to shot in a dusty field .
They lose all perspective when it comes to covering for their own
Pete George
/ 16th February 2020But two journalists haven’t been outed. It was fairly obvious they would be talking too ex-NZ first officials who had expressed concerns with how the party was being financed and run.
NZ First have outed themselves as users of a shill blog to attack and threaten journalists who are investigating the party. And they have exposed Labour and Greens as timid and unprincipled.
Duker
/ 16th February 2020attack and threaten ?
Slater has always had this thing for the ‘media party’ and ‘skilled and trained journalists’..you mean to say they are threatened by this? It seems NZF sources provided the photos but didnt get to call the wording of his story.
As I said its only when the police come calling for the journos do they have a point – like they did after Keys complaint about the cafe recordings meant the cops turned up at newsrooms. And this was a recording in a public place and where the media were ‘invited’
Peters and NZF are nowhere on the scale compared to that brutal use of political power to intimidate. Key could get away with that while Peters whom they hate ‘cant be allowed’
Its a storm in a teacup
artcroft
/ 16th February 2020Wow its getting desperate out there. Jacinda has had to activate the twitter bot army.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/02/swarm-of-apparent-twitter-bots-claim-admiration-of-winston-peters-after-difficult-week.html
Duker
/ 16th February 2020Its twitter, are you really suprised. And what has it got to do with Ardern, As they are US probably some sort of way of working phony accounts to give them legitimacy
artcroft
/ 16th February 2020What has Ardern got to do with it? Well it’s ineffective, its incompetent … it must be Labour.
Corky
/ 16th February 2020Desperate times… desperate measures, Arty. Jacinda has learnt from L Ron Hubbard. This chap had his students buy all his books to capitulate himself onto the New York Times bestseller list. Keep those irons well oiled. You will have many opportunities for fun over the coming months. This government is coming in for a heavy crash landing. 😄
Corky
/ 16th February 2020Do not be surprised if events overtake Jacinda and she’s forced to go to the polls early.
Late May or June would do us all a favour, and put many out of their misery.
Duker
/ 16th February 2020Polling date has been announced …do try to keep up .
Was it early ?
Corky
/ 16th February 2020And if NZ1 is found guilty by the SFO? She could wing it to the election. But she would have to be nuts to do that.
”Was it early ?”
Given my scenario, not early enough.I notice some commentators are now suggesting an early election may be on the cards ( they must read this blog). Are they keeping up? Or is your IQ below 115?🤔
Kitty Catkin
/ 16th February 2020Capitulate means to give in or surrender; how does someone do that to get onto the best-seller list ?
I doubt whether this blog will affect the election date one way or the other. If you think that it will happen because of you, you’re dreaming. The only thing that could make a snap election is a crisis like a vote of no confidence.As has been said before…
Corky
/ 16th February 2020I made a mistake. I should have written ”catapult ” Let’s hear it for Kitty. Another point scored. What a petty minded individual. For someone so educated, according to her…why does she busy herself with trifles?
Kitty Catkin
/ 16th February 2020Do you consider yourself to be a trifle and, by extension, trifling ? It’s not like you to be so honest about yourself.It’s true, though, when one thinks of synonyms for trifle and trifling, they do seem tailor-made for you.
I think you mean so well educated; the sentence is meaningless without an adjective. And yes, I am well-educated. It seems as if this never ceases to madden you, which is why you have to try to put me down all the time.
Corky
/ 16th February 2020I made another mistake. Kitty scores again. Trifles are spongy and wet. If too much sherry is added connoisseurs may become ditzy.
And no..I meant ‘so educated.’ However, to understand that, you need to be uneducated.😂
Apparently I become mad/ envious(?) of Kitty’s superior education. Hell, I could put all my work through a free grammar checker if I wanted. The real truth is I make fun of her everyday and she is none the wiser. So much for education.
Some of the thickest people I have met are products of university education. We call them academics. Exceptional people for counting anal rings on an exotic butterfly. But, very mediocre when it comes to buying a bottle of milk.
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Kitty Catkin
/ 16th February 2020The tweets all seem to say the same thing; what a coincidence. And they are mostly young women living in the US; another coincidence.