Open Forum – 26 February

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  1. duperez

     /  26th February 2020

    Politicians prevaricate, politicians lie, it’s the nature of the business.

    A challenge this morning was working out which was which in an RNZ interview.

    Deciding about the first part of the interview was easy. The Leader of the National party expects us to believe he did not know, does not know the membership status of three people involved in a little bit of a situation with his party.
    ————
    “How many of the defendants have been National Party members, obviously Jami-Lee Ross was once, how many of the others?”

    “I don’t know that.”
    “Why not?”
    “Because I don’t.”
    “Is it not of interest to you?”
    “Well look ultimately Susie, I mean it’s a situation where I think we know the basics of this, Jami-Lee Ross has made a series of allegations a year and a half ago, nothing’s changed other than the fact that he is in court. But it now is before the courts and I don’t think its appropriate for me to get into a commentary …”

    “Was anyone expelled from the party as a result of this case?”
    “Not that I’m aware of, no. I mean obviously we’re know the circumstances in relating to Jami-Lee Ross but not that I’m aware of.”
    “So you don’t know of any memberships lapsed and were just not renewed or not allowed to be renewed?”
    “I’m not aware of that.

    “Did Zheng Shijia also known as Colin Zheng go to candidates college?”
    “My sense is that he was going to but I don’t know that he in fact did.”
    “Have you not checked whether he did or not?”
    “Well as I say you’re asking me questions tied up in a court case and I think out of respect for the courts and that process it’s not appropriate for me to be casting light on things in relation to it.”
    “I am asking questions our lawyer has said can be legitimately be asked though.”

    “Well that’s great but ultimately I’m a politician in New Zealand and there’s a comity between (you’re also a lawyer) and there’s a comity between Parliament and the courts, it’s now before the courts full and proper, I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to be getting into any sort of detail about these things.” …
    —————–

    What’s this ‘my sense is’ nonsense? My sense is that Simon Bridges expects everyone to accept what he said this morning. He does not realise we have plenty of bullshit out in the paddocks so we know what it is. He also doesn’t realise I have a comity with myself that if I hear a whole lot of bullshit being spewed out I’ll note and label it.

    3:12. https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018735819/man-charged-over-dollar100-000-national-party-donation-planned-to-go-to-candidate-college-bridges

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    • Duker

       /  26th February 2020

      Good catch Duperez. I think most of us had forgotten about the original intent of the donations was ‘to buy a place on the party list via a Captains Pick’- Bridges being the Captain . It seems clear that Colin Zheng was ‘involved’ in Nationals candidate college

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th February 2020

    Finally the enviro-loony propaganda that mangroves are not an invasive, destructive pest monoculture seems to have been abandoned by DoC:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12311239

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  27th February 2020

      That needs more details. If the offences are not the same, it’s meaningless.

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  4. The Trump campaign has just sued The New York Times for libel over an opinion article.

    The suit claims the Times must’ve known the March 2019 opinion piece was false because of what was in the April 2019 Mueller report. 😳

    Discovery on the Trump campaign should be interesting…

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    • Pink David

       /  27th February 2020

      “The suit claims the Times must’ve known the March 2019 opinion piece was false because of what was in the April 2019 Mueller report. 😳”

      This could only be postec by someone wholly ignorant of what libel means.

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  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  28th February 2020

    A great article on the anti-plastic enviro-lunacy:
    https://www.city-journal.org/needless-panic-over-disposable-plastic

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  28th February 2020

      The labels tell the story…

      “Most of the labels on the plastic packaging analyzed in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch came from Asia, the greatest source of what researchers call “mismanaged waste.” Of the plastic carried into oceans by rivers, a 2017 study in Nature Communications estimated, 86 percent comes from Asia and virtually all the rest from Africa and South America.”

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  28th February 2020

        Yep. Add to that the discovery that the micro plastic in the oceans comes from clothes and washing machines not bags and we can see 99% of environmentalists are utterly destructively clueless while believing they are saving the planet.

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  6. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    Simon had a big rally in Tauranga. The event was attended by gang bangers and their apologist spokeswoman. Residents spoke of being scared of living in their community and they wanted action.According to one talkback caller, Simon was abused by gangsters as he left the venue…being called a faggot and other vicious descriptors if I remember correctly.

    The challenge has been issued to Simon, and he must respond with force and relentless pressure on gangs. He’s painted himself into a corner over law and order. The only way out is to deliver.

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    • Duker

       /  28th February 2020

      Luckily the current government has had a huge crackdown on guns and upped the penalties for no license…not just the previous futile attempts to only go after the gangs guns…they just get more from the more shady licensed gun owners .

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      • Corky

         /  28th February 2020

        ”Luckily the current government has had a huge crackdown on guns and upped the penalties for no license.”

        Yes, a crack down on law abiding gun owners.

        ”Upped the penalties for no license.”

        Have you a link?

        ”Not just the previous futile attempts to only go after the gangs guns…they just get more from the more shady licensed gun owners .”

        ???

        However, you are RIGHT. National have overall been as soft on crime as the present gummint.

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        • Duker

           /  28th February 2020

          New Act examples
          50AUnlawful possession of prohibited firearm ( 5yrs imprisonment)
          Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years who—
          (a)
          is in possession of a prohibited firearm; and
          (b)
          is not authorised or permitted expressly by or pursuant to this Act to be in possession of that prohibited firearm.

          51APresenting prohibited firearm at other person (7 yrs imprisonment)
          (1)
          Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term of not exceeding 7 years who, unless for some lawful purpose, presents at any other person—
          (a)
          a prohibited firearm; or
          (b)
          anything that, in the circumstances, is likely to lead that person to believe it to be a prohibited firearm.
          (2)
          For the purposes of an offence against subsection (1)(a), it does not matter whether the prohibited firearm is loaded or capable at the time of the offence of discharging any shot, bullet, missile, or other projectile.
          …..
          53AUse or attempted use of prohibited firearm to resist or prevent arrest or commit offence
          (1)
          Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who makes, or attempts to make, any use whatsoever of any prohibited firearm with intent to resist or prevent the lawful arrest or lawful detention of—
          (a)
          themselves:
          (b)
          any other person.

          many other examples

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  7. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    Ungratefulness 101…or Western navel gazing brought into sharp contrast by people who aren’t made of emotional mush?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12312378

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    • Duker

       /  28th February 2020

      “Part of the issue was that in Islamic culture, marking anniversaries was not typically done, Rizwan said.”
      Sounds a great idea from Muslim culture.
      We have far far too many tributes for every thing under the sun, mostly celebrity nobodies and other minor occasions.
      Then theres the ‘anniversaries’ …..toooooo much

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  28th February 2020

        If it’s part of the culture not to mark anniversaries, that’s their business. They are not telling everyone else not to have birthdays and other anniversaries. Gratitude doesn’t come into it.

        Why DO people mark anniversaries, anyway ? It’s pointless, really.

        I like the Muslim custom of being buried in a shroud rather than a coffin, too. Coffins waste wood and resources and achieve nothing much.

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  8. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    Weird stuff is happening on Mars. Oxygen is being created and removed from the atmosphere. At present, there is no known process that might explain these readings.

    So, we either have an unknown process in play…or we have someone artificially controlling their planets atmosphere for reasons unknown.

    It should be of vital importance for Earth to find out how this process is happening. We currently only have blunt instruments to control the weather and atmosphere like Project HAARP and Cloud Busters.

    https://www.rt.com/news/473315-mars-changing-oxygen-levels-mystery/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  28th February 2020

      If cloudbusters can control the weather, why didn’t they make it rain in Australia when the fires were at their worst ? Why are they not being used in our own drought areas ?

      This would be a marvellous opportunity to show that they actually work.

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    • ”If cloudbusters can control the weather, why didn’t they make it rain in Australia.”

      Why indeed. Maybe because no one knows of them? But what would happen if someone turned up with one ( not that they need to)? You can answer that question yourself.`

      And if they did, they would probably turn up with something like this….a fake CB. No wonder this chap doesn’t make them anymore…they don’t work.

      http://www.orgoneaustralia.com.au/CB.htm

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      • Duker

         /  28th February 2020

        Look it up..you need moisture in the air first

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        • Corky

           /  28th February 2020

          I made one. I have used one. I need look NOTHING up. All I need to do is watch and enjoy the expert commentators.

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  9. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    German Fraulein takes on Greta. A darn sight better looking too.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481588-anti-greta-climate-denial-realism/

    Interesting fact for Wokies.

    ”Why is Fraulein offensive?

    It is offensive and outdated today because: It is a diminutive that does not exist in a male form at all and indicates that an unmarried woman is not a full adult while a married woman and an unmarried man are regardless of age and accomplishments.”

    Riveting….😄

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  10. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    I was told on one of these threads this would never happen. It has:

    Corky / 27th January 2020

    I now believe it would be prudent to ban Chinese students from this country until the situation becomes clearer. I don’t envy the government having to make that decision. If they get it wrong they will never be forgiven. They will forever be the government who had blood on their hands. National will sleepwalk to victory.

    Reply:

    Kitty Catkin / 27th January 2020
    They won’t ban Chinese students. Only hysterical neurotics would want it to happen.
    Yes, there are those who are overeacting in a hysterical way and grossly exaggerating the danger, not realising that coronaviruses are everywhere and this is not the first.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410484/chinese-education-agency-the-latest-group-to-oppose-the-govt-s-covid-19-travel-ban

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  28th February 2020

      You really are a stalker, aren’t you ? Creepy, indeed,

      The travel ban is aimed at everyone, NOT just Chinese students. What would be the point of banning only them ? You have misunderstood the situation.

      The fact that the only confirmed case is from Iran shows that the anti-Chinese hysteria was possibly misplaced.

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    • Corky

       /  28th February 2020

      Of course, if I wasn’t stalked myself I wouldn’t worry about such trivialities. Maybe a lesson to be learnt?

      Creepy..great word to set a narrative. Gezza likes that word, too. Of course, it doesn’t worry me.😁

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  11. Corky

     /  28th February 2020

    Talkback is reporting panic buying at supermarkets in Auckland. That, if true, is phase one of a panic. Phase two is when people run out of supplies and medicine. They pillage shops. When they can’t do that, they will be attacking houses in rich suburbs. Those middleclass folk won’t have guns to defend themselves. They will die. Let’s hope the panic dies down and sanity returns before we reach that stage.

    I can’t help but remember the shite I received when I wrote about preppers. They are apparently nutters according to the experts on this blog. Well guys..welcome to the real world.

    I have guns, trench medicine and a water supply. All hidden away from ferals who will roam the countryside. I also have tea, coffee and toilet rolls to barter with through a third party.
    These products will become the new gold.

    .

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