How much have the mosque killings changed New Zealand?

Two different views on whether we have been changed by last year’s Christchurch mosque killings.

I’m somewhere in between those views. I don’t feel changed, but some things have changed.

Obviously there has been significant change to our firearm laws, with high powered semi-automatic firearms mostly now banned and handed in. It should also be even harder to get a firearm license, but in my experience the renal process was already rigorous.

There have been large and widespread expressions of sympathy and support for Muslim communities in New Zealand. While the visible expressions have been a change, those expressing would have mostly if not entirely been sympathetic to this sort of tragedy anyway, regardless of who the victims were.

Going by online opinions and exposure of far right extremists intolerance of Muslims and Islam hasn’t changed for some, but they are likely to be a small minority.

In some ways things will have changed for Muslims and Muslim communities in New Zealand – they will now be more cautious and probably fearful of something similar being repeated. That change will be fundamental to them.

To an extent prejudice, intolerance and abuse continues. The amount of this may or may not have changed much.

Every big tragedy changes things, but it’s difficult to judge by how much. A lot also remains much the same.

Ardern is partly right, there has been fundamental changes.

But Hooton is also right, “by and large we were “good-hearted, practical, commonsensical and tolerant” – they majority of us anyway.

 

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  1. Corky

     /  14th March 2020

    I think Pete has it about right on this issue. The changes have been more legislative than
    cultural. Things could be extrapolated out to argue the assault on our freedoms has used the mosque killings as a driving justification for repression, and possibly the Lefty agenda of banning guns and any expressions of individualism they deem inappropriate.

    The true test for our nation is still to come… when utu is served on us. I fear empathy will be in short supply when that event happens. But that remains to be seen.

    Incidentally, for anyone interested ( hopefully that’s nobody), check out Fridays ‘The Project.’
    The emotional mush was nauseating. Kanoa Lloyd interviewed Jacinda. They had background music playing while the interview proceeded. The Project need to decide whether they want to interview the PM on a serious level…or make a drama starring Kanoa and the PM.

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  2. David

     /  14th March 2020

    I am with Hooton, NZers are some of the best people on earth, they were before and still are. Thankfully Ardern is wrong and it didnt change us.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th March 2020

      The practical help was impressive; people set to and raised funds, made meals and did useful things.

      By a fortunate chance, I won a Lotto prize that weekend that made a nice donation to the fund (I would have donated anyway, but not as much, I must admit)

      The bigots & victim blamers among us won’t have changed, alas.

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  3. Duker

     /  14th March 2020

    I see this incorrect assumption all the time
    “with high powered semi-automatic firearms mostly now banned and handed in..”

    Yes semi autos are banned, but so are large magazine , not high powered rifles that arent semi auto.
    It covered lever action/bolt .303 and larger with large magazines as well , nearly 50,000 handed in.
    The correct description is semi auto AND lever and bolt action rifles with large magazines.
    Some owners with sentimental value .303 had their gun modified at government expense to only allow small magazine.
    The notion its the ‘elaborate’ semi autos only that are banned means some people dont think their old lever /bolt .303 isnt now banned and they could be in big trouble

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th March 2020

      There seems no reason for anyone to have these guns and I can’t see their being banned as repression when people who want guns can still have them; they just can’t have murderous military ones.

      There was a time when people could buy arsenic and cyanide over the counter (it was a real surprise to read a hint for getting rid of earwigs in Aunt Daisy’s hint book of 1951 which I acquired recently; buy Paris Green from the seedsman. Paris Green is arsenic. I don’t imagine that garden centres sell it now,

      We can’t buy strychnine in shops now, but I find it hard to imagine that many people now think themselves hard done by because they can’t own arsenic, strychine or cyanide. The next generation will probably be amazed that the military weapons were allowed to be sold and owned.

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  4. NOEL

     /  14th March 2020

    I see we are up to eight years since the earthquakes and there remains an annual commemoration.

    Is it something to do with the grieving reliving to normalise their reactions or just another photo op?

    I can understand 1 year on. A bit like placing the head stone.

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    • I don’t know what benefits there are in an annual republicising of tragic events, but I’m weary of them, especially the degree they are rehashed. RNZ yesterday morning was doing the mosque thing far too much for my liking,.

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    • David

       /  14th March 2020

      The locals most affected are not fans, its not an Islamic thing to commemorate. Seems like a photo op for opportunists and a way of filling in the news day, most people just want to forget and move on same with the quake anniversaries.
      It would have been a good election/photo opportunity for Ardern but little other benefit.

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      • Duker

         /  14th March 2020

        TV and Media love them as they can plan for coverage and write it all ahead of time.
        As well seems like every minor musician and TV or Hollywood stars passing requires a ‘tribute’ . Most have no real connection to NZ or were so long ago. If thats not enough minor younger celebs who ‘tragically pass away’ have their life commemorated along side
        gangstas shot by police , teens killed in car crashes or murdered bouncers at a Brothel who is remembered fondly …until he isnt. Social media being a font of knowledge of course , and clicks

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  14th March 2020

          It’s always been so, I imagine. Look at the hysteria when Rudolf Valentino died; one woman killed herself.

          I have just read that when King George went to Weymouth (I forget which George but it was one of the early ones) for some private bathing, there were thousands waiting on the beach to see the sight. Even in those days….

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