Open Forum – 14 March

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19 Comments

  1. david in aus

     /  14th March 2020

    This year the election should be conducted by postal ballot. The risk of having large numbers of people using the same locations is too high. I have no problems scanning my vote in the last election.

    This is an opportunity to try alternative methods for elections and for other aspects of our lives.

    Coronavirus will change us forever.

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    • Blazer

       /  14th March 2020

      Pandemics are a feature of history.

      Unless you become an absolute recluse you cannot avoid the ramifications of human living.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  14th March 2020

        There have been pandemics before, like the SARS ones. They didn’t change us forever and this probably won’t, either, once the hysteria wears off.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  14th March 2020

    The govt should set up a help line to assist rightwing posters on the 2 nearby rightwing blogs handle and get over tomorrow’s memorial in Christchurch.It must grate on them that any rightwinger with a gun can murder 51 New Zealanders and they be cast in the same mold as tarrant

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    • Corky

       /  14th March 2020

      I think liberals will need more help, Lurchy. Once their emotions get the better of them they will be complete wrecks. I’m wondering if these types will start to wear thin with the Muslim community? For me the line between genuine empathy and threater is being crossed in some regards.

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  3. NY Times Politics desk has another failure today.

    Today’s article by Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman starts the spin right from the top with the headline “The President as Bystander.”

    Trump, of course, is not a bystander — he has been actively involved in creating policy, and his role has been heavily reported. He has a clear policy — interfering with public health officials and covering up information. He has been talking to people all over the government and in the private sector to push that agenda. There is no honest way to call him a bystander.

    The article is almost entirely insider spin trying to soften up Trump’s involvement. Look at the following line, vaguely attributed to off the record sources who never should have been granted that status: “After feeling besieged by enemies for three years, Mr. Trump and some of his advisers view so many issues through the lens of political warfare — assuming that criticism is all about point scoring — that it has become hard to see what is real and what is not, according to people around the president. ”

    The vague statement “assuming all criticism…” doesnt account for the underlying reality that Trump has been a paranoid and out of touch with reality since before he even took office. He has always been this way. There is simply no reason for putting this kind of spin in the article.

    Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman had the opportunity to do real reporting and dig, but instead they simply reprinted the White House damage control script. Amazing.

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    • Duker

       /  14th March 2020

      Haberman has an inside WH source who has been there from the beginning. ..can only be the ‘first Son in Law’ Kuchner.
      Whats the bet the ‘critical headline’ is later changed , but you are right about playing Trump in the best light, which is of course so very had to do. He could even read off the teleprompter correctly last night and no there wasnt a complete Us- Europe travel ban , only for non US citizens, and no there wasnt a ban on goods like he said. Wont find a mention of that Trump cock up in NYT yet they are happy to emphasize every Biden stumble.

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    • Gezza

       /  14th March 2020

      I was surprised they didn’t make this call when cancelling the Pasifika festival. It just got a mention on Aljaz tv, which briefly reported simply that the memorial gathering had been “cancelled due to coronavirus fears”.

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  4. Corky

     /  15th March 2020

    Over the last few weeks I have been visiting a sick relly in hospital. Some observations:

    1 – Coronavirus is now taken far more seriously. I am asked by each new nursing shift whether I may have been in situations that could have exposed me to CV.

    2- Far too many Maori have no idea how to behave in a hospital..especially the children. They seem to be totally unaware that other people exist apart from their relatives.

    3- Migrants, or non ethnic NZers, now make up the bulk of nursing staff. I have found all of them exceptional, with the Indian nurses edging out the rest. I play a game with all Indians I meet. I ask them how they use Turmeric. I have not meet one who cannot tell me its uses, both in cuisine and as a herbal. Two of the nurses I spoke to showed me pictures of their family businesses back home, set up to supply the health market.

    That got me thinking. We in the West have lost our herbal traditions. The chemist shop is where it’s at for most of us. So what happens if we can’t get pharmaceuticals?

    4- The paper work nurses have to administer seems to be increasing. Before a drip is administered, a whole raft of questions need ticking off. While I’m all for safety, there comes a point of no returns on effort expended.

    5- Hospital food seems to have improve. The fish pie and apple crumble was to die for. The Vegan selection should be considered a health hazard.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  15th March 2020

      The number of herbal remedies available shows that we haven’t lost our herbal traditions.

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    • Corky

       /  15th March 2020

      On an individual level we have lost our herbal knowledge. Try the Indian experiment yourself.
      The usual answer is Milk and Turmeric mixed as a tonic before bed, or as medicine if you are feeling under the weather. Then try that with Westerners. I doubt one person in a hundred would know anything unless they went to a health shop or chemist to ask for something to help them with a health issue.

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      • Corky

         /  15th March 2020

        Using Western herbs for the experiment, that is.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  15th March 2020

          You are behind the times; natural remedies have never gone away and are common as an alternative Herbs and spices have been exported and imported for centuries.It;s hard now to what was originally Western and what has been in the West for hundreds of years, like turmeric and saffron.

          Turmeric has been mainstream for so long in herbal remedies that it’s in the health food aisle of supermarkets like Pak & Save ! . You will also find pills and capsules with St John’s Wort, Evening Primrose, Olive Leaf, Hemp, Garlic, Ginger,Raspberry Leaf, and other ‘herbal’ remedies. I don’t know about senna but it’s been around for centuries.

          Nettle tea is available and acts as an antihistamine. And so on.

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        • Maggy Wassilieff

           /  15th March 2020

          Anyone can read up about herbal uses; what I’ve discovered is that few folks can identify the plants in their environment.

          Anyway… I’ve got a juniper tree and a big bay tree… so when the plague comes knocking at my door, I’ll fend it off with a posy of both.

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          • Corky

             /  15th March 2020

            ‘What I’ve discovered is that few folks can identify the plants in their environment.’

            Bingo: Kawakawa, Tutu and Makomako ( Maqui berry relative),to name a few of many natives. Hardly anyone would know what you are talking about. While it’s true anyone can look up uses, that doesn’t translate to practical applications and interactions management.

            For example, scientists recently discovered Turmeric is poorly absorbed unless consumed with either pepper ( Pepprine) or fat . Indians class Turmeric as a ”dry herb” and always consume it with meals or liquids containing fat. That knowledge is part of their folk heritage. They don’t need to look stuff up…at least not the Indians I have spoken to.

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  5. seer

     /  16th March 2020

    Might not be any tomatoes on the plant, but maybe he can dry the plant and get some herbal goodness from it…
    Warning contains multiple uses of an Afrikaans pronouncing of the f word.

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