Open Forum – 25 March

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  1. The Rise of Nationalism and the Backlash against China

    Covid-19 Will See the Destruction of the EU, the Death of Globalisation, a Reduction in the Busy-Body Nature of the UN and a Rise in Nationalism.

    That sounds more like a wish list than reality from Cameron Slater, who is back in blithering action at WO/The BFD.

    At least it’s mostly hidden behind their paywall, and it’s more harmless than post from him a couple of days ago promoting ‘sources’ saying there was a big coverup of deaths in one hospital and the preparing of refrigerated containers. And they are still trying to talk up a leadership coup in the National caucus. And trying to claim Winston was the rock behind Ardern the flake.

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    • duperez

       /  25th March 2020

      I know times are strange and desperate but expecting reality from Cameron Slater?

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      • Corky

         /  25th March 2020

        Reality is very liquard at the moment. He may be 100% correct. I won’t bet against any theory except the one that the world needs to be free of capitalism to survive. Talking of that ..whats happened to the Share Market?

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        • Dow Jones has been quite up and down but mostly down.

          It peaked at 29,493 on 13 February, and is currently at 20,704 which is quite a drop, but it has bounced back from a low of 18,341 a day ago.

          I think it is likely to be volatile for some time, but unlikely to get back to anywhere near the highs of two months ago any time soon.

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          • Corky

             /  25th March 2020

            I hope it holds steady . I just put an order in for shares.

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            • Blazer

               /  25th March 2020

              in?

            • Duker

               /  25th March 2020

              F&P Health , Woolworths Aus. ?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  25th March 2020

              Munchausen Holdings ?

            • Corky

               /  25th March 2020

              F&P Health …lot’s of laughs. Are you joking! No, I’m investing in Nepeta Cataria Aged Facility Care.

              Investing at at time like this demands a certain mindset. That mindset considers your money gone – lost in a bad investment. That way you are psychologically prepared for loss.. and any profit is extremely sweet indeed. That happened with my A2 shares.

              Anyone else investing? Tell us your story. Give us hope.😀

            • Blazer

               /  25th March 2020

              Walter Mitty rides…again….watch out 2 o’clock incoming.

            • Corky

               /  25th March 2020

              Lol.. remember when Walter Mitty told you about his A2 shares? You said you had sold yours. 😄

  2. Gerrit

     /  25th March 2020

    Had to fill up with petrol this morning. Crew is working from behind the the night time security window in anticipation of the lock down. Long ques not for petrol but coffee. With coffee shops and cafe’s closed only place to get coffee is a petrol station. Small cups only as the bigger cups dont fit through the security slide. All fun and games. With dairies open it is surprising more have not anticipated the demand for coffee and put in a machine.

    Seen many businesses putting large concrete blocks in place to deter ram raiders. Guess this is deepeset darkest South Auckland after all.

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  3. Zedd

     /  25th March 2020

    I just went for a daily walk.. NO surprises; streams of folks heading into the supermarket. One thing is likely, those who are doing this (without masks or social distance) 3-4 times a week, are the most likely to catch this virus. Having a house full of supplies is not going to protect you from it, if you are still standing about chatting to folks in the carpark; WAKE UP ! :/

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    • Noel

       /  25th March 2020

      Maybe they took your advice Zedd and mellowed. Bit difficult to estimate distance in that condition?

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      • Zedd

         /  25th March 2020

        hey I go shopping once a week (Friday a.m.) BUT Im not looking forward to it this week.. it was bad enough last friday !
        >selfish idiots with packed up trollies.. storming the checkouts.. (because theyre bored sitting at home) ?! 😦

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        • Duker

           /  25th March 2020

          Go early, but you may have to shop again in mid afternoon as thats when more trucks have delivered. Paknsave restock all day but Countdown and new world are more restock overnight
          Frozen vegetables have been hit hard, just as we move out of abundance of fresh from the summer season

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  25th March 2020

            The limits are so low that people have to go back a few days later. No one is likely to fill the trolley on two of each item.

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            • Duker

               /  25th March 2020

              Where we shop thats only about 5-10% are trolley fillers

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  25th March 2020

              The last time I went, I didn’t see laden trolleys. I wasn’t looking, I was in a hurry and not that interested, but I would have noticed if they’d been piled up.

  4. Zedd

     /  25th March 2020

    MrT has reportedly said (paraphrased) ‘Its time for USA to get back to work soon.. the economy is more important !’
    >one of his advisors reportedly told him ‘maybe a few lives need to be sacrificed.. to SAVE the economy’ Im sure they are just lining up for that…
    typical CAPITALIST drivel, the sort of thing that Bridges & ‘his committee’ are likely deciding on too !!

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  5. Conspiratoor

     /  25th March 2020

    Trumps approval rating rising as fast as his disapproval is falling. Why?

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    • Duker

       /  25th March 2020

      Should be in the 60s and 70s . Why not ?

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  25th March 2020

        “Should be in the 60s and 70s”. Why? Are you comparing him with his predecessors and if not, why set the bar higher for Donald?

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        • Duker

           /  25th March 2020

          Thats because its been so low – below 50% for so long , I guess Wall St doesnt get to vote on these things otherwise it would at Kim Jon Uns 98%

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  6. Zedd

     /  25th March 2020

    meanwhile: ‘Not dying for Wall St’ is reportedly ‘trending on twitter’.. maybe MrT is the BUTT of much of it ? (i dont read it)

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  25th March 2020

    Let’s start a give a little page so Maggy Wassilleff can move to the sort of paradise she thinks she deserves to live in
    (It’s taken me years to convince hubby that NZ is a 3rd world country… but he’s starting to twig)
    the right hate NZ…
    today’s have your say YSB

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  25th March 2020

    Chuck Bird, on today’s general debate…Kiwiblog, Chuck you are starting to sound old and dottery and bitter, I’m old but don’t want to be linked in age to some oldie who abuses the PM in a time of crises, take a chill pill oldie,and take care
    Chuck Bird
    DPF, have you just come to the conclusion that Comrade Ardern is a pathological liar?

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    • duperez

       /  25th March 2020

      If that’s the case, maybe it’s DPF, like a lot of others, was ready to accept or excuse male pathological liars but not a female.

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  9. Corky

     /  25th March 2020

    Ain’t Karma a strange force. A couple of months ago, one, Jacinda Ardern, was months away from being remembered as a ‘one term wonder.’ A popular, but weak, mediocre PM.

    Now she’ll go down in the pantheons of NZ politics as possibly our greatest PM should things turn out well for NZ. Just utterly unbelievable…as are many things at the moment.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  25th March 2020

      Probably the worst case for her is if her alarmist advisors are right and the lockdown persists for months. The destruction will also destroy her Government.

      The best case is that they prove completely wrong in both assessment and response and the lockdown is found largely redundant and lifted quickly. The country’s relief will overwhelm condemnation and the Government will be quickly foregiven.

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      • Duker

         /  25th March 2020

        Well “scientists say’ has become the new religion…its replaced ‘economists say’ which was the 80/90s mantra.
        In some ways NZ blindly follows the lastest trend , trying to be ahead of the world but peoples way of life isnt a footnote on some smartarse academics latest oeuvre

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      • Blazer

         /  25th March 2020

        no cure for your schadenfreude….

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      • Duker

         /  25th March 2020

        Isn’t that what Douglas said in the 80s…there is no alternative…catastrophe looks ..we are bankrupt unless we act yesterday..no dissenion will be countenanced.
        …economists were the previous generations version of today’s epidemiologits not even likevpractical scientists like Doherty who made real discoveries in immunology but doctor’s with spreadsheets who never have patients

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  25th March 2020

        Alan, the people whose jobs, houses and livelihoods go won’t forgive the government for needlessly destroying their lives.

        If the lockdown is extended, there is likely to be a huge backlash.

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  10. Corky

     /  25th March 2020

    Crikey.. Lotto future uncertain. I rely on Lotto for my weekly paycheck. They can’t close it down. I would have to rely on the charity of….WINZ!!!!! 😨

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    • Duker

       /  25th March 2020

      Lotto online is carrying on.
      Cash prizes only on hold , online prizes credited to your account , can be moved back to your bank account

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  11. duperez

     /  25th March 2020

    I suppose Easter would be a very symbolic time for Trump to want everything to be done and dusted by since it’s a Christian thing about dying and resurrection. On the third day the USA will be resurrected? Sure. 🙃

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