Covid-19 numbers jump in last 24 hours in US

Covid-19 is surging in the United States, with New York the biggest concern but problems spread across the country.

– Fox News

That’s an alarming 24 hour jump especially of deaths going from 706 to 1,031. This suggests that in some areas the virus is overwhelming health systems.

New York is a major concern, but the CRC shows just 280 of those deaths are there.

ABC: COVID-19 infections rise in New York with peak weeks away

Hospitalizations from COVID-19 were rising faster than expected in New York as residents and leaders prepared for a peak in cases that is expected to still be weeks away.

The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in New York climbed to 3,800, including close to 900 in intensive care, with the peak of the outbreak weeks away, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday.

While the hospitalization figures are alarming, the ferocious growth has slowed over the last several days. For instance, on Sunday, hospitalizations were doubling every two days; by Tuesday they were doubling every 4.7 days, he said.

But the jump in deaths in the last 24 hours looks bad.

And it could get worse, especially if Trump tries to wind back restrictions and lockdowns before Easter. But hopefully others are making key decisions.

Fox News: Coronavirus will worsen over next month if restrictions eased, top Pentagon doctor says

Top Pentagon doctor said Wednesday the coronavirus pandemic is showing no signs of letting up over the next three weeks, according to the last military models, and any potential easing of restrictions in the coming weeks could potentially “make this worse.”

“We’re going to continue to see this — no surprise — continue to grow,” Air Force Brig. Gen. (Dr.) Paul Friedrichs told reporters.

The doctor for the Pentagon’s Joint Staff was asked by Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin if it was wise to ease restrictions by Easter.

“I don’t think there’s a great deal of value in speculating on a particular date, and what I would ask for everyone’s help with is worry about today. Because if we stop doing the right thing today because we think something’s going to happen in four weeks, we will make this worse,” Friedrichs replied.

At a Fox News virtual town hall Tuesday, President Trump said he hoped to open parts of the U.S. economy by Easter, April 12.

Trump argued he doesn’t want “to turn the country off” and see a continued economic downfall from the pandemic. He also said he worries the U.S. will see “suicides by the thousands” if coronavirus devastates the economy.

“We lose thousands and thousands of people a year to the flu. We don’t turn the country off,” Trump said during the interview.

Trump added: “We lose much more than that to automobile accidents. We don’t call up the automobile companies and say stop making cars. We have to get back to work.”

But…

Top Defense Department officials later warned that the coronavirus outbreak will last in the U.S. for at least the next “three months” —  a stark contrast from Trump’s prognosis.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Tuesday from the Pentagon estimated that the country could grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic rocking the nation for at least 10 weeks.

“It looks like it has an eight- to 10-week period,” Esper said. “We need to plan for this to be a few months long, at least, and we are taking all precautionary measures to do that, to be in it for the long haul.”

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley took it a step further.

“You’re looking at eight to 10, maybe 12 weeks, something like that, call it three months,” Milley said. “Some of that depends on what we do as a nation to mitigate it, to flatten that curve so to speak. But we, the United States military, we’re going to do this as long as the mission takes.”

Hopefully there won’t be rises of 300 deaths per day over ten weeks, they should ease off sooner or later, but 10 weeks is 70 days, so it could get quite bad (worse than now).


Morning update:

Overnight the number of cases in the US have jumped from 68,572 to 75,233

Deaths have only edged up from 1,031 to 1,070

And Fox News has stopped showing the 24 hour increase. Maybe it was too scary. And Fox is pushing White House propaganda diverting blame to China.

 

 

 

 

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  2. Griff.

     /  26th March 2020

    USA death rate is doubling every 3 days has been since about March the 17.

    They will be past 300 a day in less than a week.
    #boomer remover.

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    • Duker

       /  27th March 2020

      So the total US deaths per day has just surpassed that of the flu/pneumonia category , which has been trending down for a while to ‘only 1000 per week’
      My numbers come from CDC if you want to dispute them

      Still that mountain of 23,000 flu deaths this season to climb- which has vaccines and established anti viral treatments

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      • Griff.

         /  27th March 2020

        Another that can not understand simple math.
        Doubling every three days.
        In about six days Covid 19 will be the third most common cause of death in the USA .
        It will not stop there.

        “Any one who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best, he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear his shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house.”

        ― Robert Heinlein

        As to the CDC numbers .
        They are behind by at lest a day it says so on their web site.

        This page will be updated regularly at noon Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.
        snip
        In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.

        Both John Hopkins and World meter are almost real time using the numbers released from each state which they directly link to as they are added..
        https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
        Coronavirus Cases:
        85,489
        Deaths:
        1,297

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  3. Griff.

     /  26th March 2020

    Hospitals Consider Universal Do-Not-Resuscitate Orders for Coronavirus Patients
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/25/coronavirus-patients-do-not-resucitate/?outputType=amp

    Worry that ‘all hands’ responses may expose doctors and nurses to infection prompts debate about prioritizing the survival of the many over the one

    … Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago has been discussing a do-not-resuscitate policy for infected patients, regardless of the wishes of the patient or their family members — a wrenching decision to prioritize the lives of the many over the one

    Officials at George Washington University Hospital in the District say they have had similar conversations, but for now will continue to resuscitate covid-19 patients using modified procedures, such as putting plastic sheeting over the patient to create a barrier. The University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, one of the country’s major hot spots for infections, is dealing with the problem by severely limiting the number of responders to a contagious patient in cardiac or respiratory arrest.

    Several large hospital systems — Atrium Health in the Carolinas, Geisinger in Pennsylvania and regional Kaiser Permanente networks — are looking at guidelines that would allow doctors to override the wishes of the coronavirus patient or family members on a case-by-case basis due to the risk to doctors and nurses, or a shortage of protective equipment, say ethicists and doctors involved in those conversations. But they would stop short of imposing a do-not-resuscitate order on every coronavirus patient. The companies declined to comment.

    “We are now on crisis footing,” he said. “What you take as first-come, first-served, no-holds-barred, everything-that-is-available-should-be-applied medicine is not where we are. We are now facing some difficult choices in how we apply medical resources — including staff.”

    The new protocols are part of a larger rationing of lifesaving procedures and equipment — including ventilators — that is quickly becoming a reality here as in other parts of the world battling the virus. The concerns are not just about health-care workers getting sick but also about them potentially carrying the virus to other patients in the hospital.

    … “From a safety perspective you can make the argument that the safest thing is to do nothing,”

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    Southern States Face Spike In Coronavirus Cases
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-southern-states-face-spike-in-virus-cases/

    The coronavirus is spreading rapidly in the South, and hospitals are becoming overwhelmed. Louisiana, Florida and Georgia are facing alarming spikes, with more than 4,700 cases and 125 deaths in those states alone.

    There are more cases in the New Orleans area than there are in Los Angeles County — and Los Angeles County is 25 times larger. In just over two weeks, the number of cases in Louisiana has skyrocketed to almost 1,800.

    Former state health director Rebekah Gee said masks and other protective equipment are running out, and that the state needs supplies immediately.

    “I’m concerned about the fact that we’re now worried about protective equipment already and we haven’t hit the surge of patients,” Gee told CBS News.

    Doctors believe the city’s yearly Mardi Gras festivities escalated the spread of the virus. The French Quarter has been shut down, as the city braces for even more cases.

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    ‘That’s When All Hell Broke Loose’: Coronavirus Patients Start to Overwhelm US Hospitals
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/25/health/coronavirus-covid-hospitals/index.html

    … “We don’t have the machines, we don’t have the beds,” … “To think that we’re in New York City and this is happening,” he added. “It’s like a third-world country type of scenario. It’s mind-blowing.”

    … “Last week when I went to work, we talked about the one or two patients amongst the dozens of others that might have been a Covid or coronavirus patient,” Spencer told CNN’s Anderson Cooper Tuesday. “In my shift yesterday, nearly every single patient that I took care of was coronavirus, and many of them extremely severe. Many were put on breathing tubes. Many decompensated quite quickly.

    “There is a very different air this week than there was last week.”

    … “In my own hospital — and I don’t think it’s unique — we have a nurse who is on a ventilator right now who contracted the virus.”

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  26th March 2020

      Hospitalisation counts must be leading and deaths trailing. Case counts are too dependent on testing pattern and effectiveness to be a reliable indicator.

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      • Griff.

         /  26th March 2020

        Hospitalisation counts must be leading and deaths trailing.
        No shit Sherlock.
        An average of Twenty days from first admission to death.
        You do understand the concept exponential ?

        https://eveningreport.nz/2020/03/24/keith-rankin-chart-analysis-covid-19-virus-exponential-growth-in-united-states-and-united-kingdom/

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        • Pink David

           /  27th March 2020

          The next exponential curve will be unemployment numbers

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  27th March 2020

          Do you read your links before you spew? It says the death tally is the key indicator which was my point.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  27th March 2020

          The initial curve may approximate exponential but it will end up an S-shape.

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          • Griff.

             /  27th March 2020

            The initial curve may approximate exponential but it will end up an S-shape.

            Well Sherlock who would have thunk.
            The curve will flatten as the ratio of already infected to potential victims gets closer to 1.
            Three choices.
            If this happens over time due to measures to limit its spread .
            After about 2 million in the USA, made up of about 6% of your generation,
            have popped their clogs . This translates to about 30,000 deaths here .
            If it is allowed to run unchecked the death toll rises as hospitals will be overloaded .
            Or we do what china did and close down until we can eliminate its presence and have a far lower death toll.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th March 2020

              There are really just three alternatives:
              1. Get it over quickly leaving the economy intact.
              2. Wreck the economy and drag it out slowly with at least as many dead and probably more.
              3. Eliminate the virus world-wide.

              We seem to be taking option 2.

            • Griff.

               /  27th March 2020

              Alan I gave the reason why your idea of letting it run rampant is not a good idea.
              Our hospitals will be over loaded very quickly as is happening in the USA right now .
              This lack of Medical capacity results in a far higher death toll as doctors are forced to allocate limited capacity to those who have the most to benefit.
              That you are still only worried about your personal bank balance shows your motivation is pure self interest.
              Hopefully Darwin will sort your greed out .

              As predicted the USA now has a case count second only to China.
              https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
              Tomorrow they will have the most known infections of any country.
              Deaths will follow the same curve .

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th March 2020

              The death rates from killing the economy:
              https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/489566-shutdown-is-killing-the-economy-and-is-also-no-good-for-our-health

              Far cheaper and better to boost the health service to cope than shut down the economy.

            • They are trying to boost the health service as quickly as they can, but still see the need for $2 trillion in economic support. And the case and death rates keep climbing.

              We will never know what would have been the best approach in various countries. People are having to make huge life and death decisions in an unprecedented situation. They won’t get measures exactly right, but we have to hope they get them close enough to make a difference.

            • Blazer

               /  27th March 2020

              The NZ economy is subject to external factors Al….unless everyone is singing from the same songsheet ,it is hardly relevant to this crisis.

              Your endorsement of the Trump/Bolsanero approach to C19 is an indictment on any moral virtue you may still have left.

            • Pink David

               /  27th March 2020

              “People are having to make huge life and death decisions in an unprecedented situation”

              The only unprecedented aspect of this is the reaction.

            • When has there been a situation in our lifetimes where a virus has spread around the world so quickly hospitalising and killing so many people?

              Do you think that Governor Cuomo is overreacting asking for more ventilators urgently? But not urgent enough for the 100 people who died of Covid-19 in a day – how often has that happened from a single illness that you can remember?

            • Griff.

               /  27th March 2020

              Far cheaper and better to boost the health service to cope than shut down the economy.

              Yes grow thousands of nurses , doctors and fully equipped hospital beds in a few weeks.
              The name for this sort of idiocy is Magical Thinking.
              It takes time Alan and your preferred option does not give us any.
              Which brings us back to your inability to grok your first first lesson on this thread.
              Unchecked Exponential growth is a killer.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th March 2020

              Nonsense on both counts, B. The hit to our economy is massively greater than our external dependencies. The number of extra deaths due to hospital overload that cannot be remedied by massively boosting resources is unknown but given the Italian experience that they are overwhelmingly old and already ill it seems unlikely to be significant.

              The difference between Trump and Boisanero AFAIK is that Trump is pulling all stops to boost medical resources.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th March 2020

              Griff you overlook the fact that unless it is eliminated world-wide it will infect and kill the same proportion of people everywhere. The only argument for lockdown is ICU overload. There don’t seem to be any good statistics that justify this. Eg: Fatality rate per hospital admissions, ICU/Hospital Admissions.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  27th March 2020

              Pete, the flu death toll makes the covid 1 look insignificant. 1000 a week in the US, at least.

            • Most health professionals, most country and state leaders and many if not most people see Covid-19 as very significant and in need of drastic action to prevent or slow it’s spread.

  4. The Daily Trump:

    The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!

    And

    ….I have been packed all day with meetings, I have no time for stupidity.

    He seems to be fighting media more than viruses.

    But his approval is rising and disapproval dropping bigly:
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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    • Pink David

       /  27th March 2020

      “He seems to be fighting media more than viruses.”

      Not a surprise given the media have been at war with him since before he became president eh?

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      • Gezza

         /  27th March 2020

        Trump has bullied, legally threatened, & warred with critics & people he’s stiffed since forever. He got reported on for many of the nasty accusations, & lies, & exaggerations, & the sort of ridiculous assertions & narcissistic behaviour he still gets criticised for today.

        He elected to make the daily headlines work in his favour by being even more boastful, obnoxious & attack-prone as ever, focussing on the liberal media (or any media that criticises him) because they have been dumb enuf to give him oxygen.

        Now many of them know how to bait him. So they do.

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  5. There were cruise ship problems, but warships also:

    RNZ Pacific is reporting there are are four additional cases from the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt which docked in Guam after reports of sailors testing positive for Covid-19.

    There are 5000 sailors on board and no one will be allowed to leave the vessel.

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    • Gezza

       /  27th March 2020

      Aljazeera tv reports from New York that the NYPD is experiencing a serious spike in officers calling in sick because they have the coronavirus, symptoms of the virus or have been around people with the deadly disease.

      “We are currently at 3,000 somewhere in that range which is two-thirds higher than what the norm roughly a thousand officers at any given time,” said NYPD First Deputy Commissioner Ben Tucker. “That runs about three percent of the total, right now we are running about eight percent of the total.”

      They say that New York has become the epicentre of the US coronavirus epidemic, reporting 100 deaths in just 24 hours.

      Also, just a half hour ago, that hospitals in both New York & New Jersey are already getting overloaded. Cuomo was shown at a press conference saying he has approved “splitting” ventilators – using one machine to ventilate two patients. “Not ideal, but adequate, in my view”.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/385-dead-ny-cases-spike-hospitals-overwhelmed-cuomo-200326161739853.html

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  27th March 2020

        I think the Itallians were splitting ventilators for up to ten patients.

        I was wondering earlier how many of our cops running around telling people to go home are infected. They must be a fairly high risk group.

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  6. Official confirmed cases in the US now 80,021 and not far behind China (81,782) and Italy (80,859).

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  27th March 2020

    Westpac estimating unemployment will rise 7%. That will mean 315 additional deaths from suicide and many more from drug and alcohol abuse as per the link I referenced earlier. There will also be more mental health and crime costs, relationship breakups and domestic violence. All this supposedly to save some minor fraction of the now drastically reduced Imperial College estimate of less than 1400 lives at risk from the virus in NZ most of whom are already old and ill.

    Well done, alarmists.

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    • Griff.

       /  27th March 2020

      Why do you talk such nonsense all the bloody time Alan?
      https://blogs.otago.ac.nz/pubhealthexpert/2020/03/23/the-maths-and-ethics-of-minimising-covid-19-deaths-in-nz/

      A recent study by Imperial College in the UK estimated that case fatality risk among those infected by age vary enormously from 0.002% among zero to 10 year’s old, up to 9.3% for people 80 years and over.

      This is a pattern that is consistent with what was reported in a large Chinese study.

      If by the epidemic’s end 60% of all age groups are infected, this is (a shocking) 30,600 deaths in NZ (Figure). (Other estimates in work the third author has done elsewhere give a lower total – but here to allow for comparisons with our work for Australia – we stick with the Imperial College estimates).
      Can we do better than this? Yes.

      If we protect, which unfortunately also means ‘isolate’, people over 60 year’s old really well.

      Let’s assume by epidemic’s end only 20% people over 60 have been infected. The corollary is that 70% of younger people need to become immune through infection to get the average infection rate to 60% to achieve herd immunity.

      But this ‘simple’ measure has a profoundly beneficial effect, at least halving the total number of deaths to 13,000.

      Why? Because the expected 27,300 deaths among the over 60’s are reduced to 9,100, with a compensatory increase from 3,300 to 3,900 deaths among younger people (<60 years).

      Can we do better than this? Almost certainly.

      Let’s assume that improving knowledge about treatments and improved healthcare organisation for people sick with COVID-19 leads to a 50% reduction in the case fatality risk among these sick people. This is speculative but a lot of re-organisation of healthcare systems is currently underway to improve managing COVID-19 cases which should see reductions in case fatality.

      This results in a halving of the number of deaths to 6,500 – approaching the 5,000 deaths per year from tobacco use in NZ (although this only serves to remind us how disastrous the tobacco epidemic is, year in year out).

      Which still leaves you sitting at home moaning because you are losing money.
      Over sixty you would not be allowed to have anyone on your property so still no income from renting your cabins or man to mow your lawns for you.

      Here is the actual imperial collage recommendations not some distortion you read on some random blog .

      We estimate that in the absence of interventions, COVID-19 would have resulted in 7.0 billion infections and 40 million deaths globally this year. Mitigation strategies focussing on shielding the elderly (60% reduction in social contacts) and slowing but not interrupting transmission (40% reduction in social contacts for wider population) could reduce this burden by half, saving 20 million lives, but we predict that even in this scenario, health systems in all countries will be quickly overwhelmed. This effect is likely to be most severe in lower income settings where capacity is lowest: our mitigated scenarios lead to peak demand for critical care beds in a typical low-income setting outstripping supply by a factor of 25, in contrast to a typical high-income setting where this factor is 7. As a result, we anticipate that the true burden in low income settings pursuing mitigation strategies could be substantially higher than reflected in these estimates.

      Our analysis therefore suggests that healthcare demand can only be kept within manageable levels through the rapid adoption of public health measures (including testing and isolation of cases and wider social distancing measures) to suppress transmission, similar to those being adopted in many countries at the current time. If a suppression strategy is implemented early (at 0.2 deaths per 100,000 population per week) and sustained, then 38.7 million lives could be saved whilst if it is initiated when death numbers are higher (1.6 deaths per 100,000 population per week) then 30.7 million lives could be saved. Delays in implementing strategies to suppress transmission will lead to worse outcomes and fewer lives saved.

      We do not consider the wider social and economic costs of suppression, which will be high and may be disproportionately so in lower income settings. Moreover, suppression strategies will need to be maintained in some manner until vaccines or effective treatments become available to avoid the risk of later epidemics. Our analysis highlights the challenging decisions faced by all governments in the coming weeks and months, but demonstrates the extent to which rapid, decisive and collective action now could save millions of lives.

      https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news–wuhan-coronavirus/

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  27th March 2020

        What do you think would be the effect on a) the economy, b) hospitals and c) the death rate if all folks over 60 were forced into quarantine while the rest of the population were allowed to get on with their lives and jobs

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        • Most confirmed cases in NZ are people under 60. Leaving all under 60s to carry on unrestricted would mean widespread infections and probably some deaths.

          How long would you keep over 60s in quarantine for?

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        • Griff.

           /  27th March 2020

          It helps if you read though what I posted above mate. (first cut and paste )

          Another thing you lot are missing is the effects are not just the death rate.
          Even of you don’t die you end up with life changing disability from being on a ventilator in an ICU for days.
          Many of the survivors among the young will live with the ongoing effects for the rest of their life.

          FWIW
          I started a new job last Monday .
          Six days and out the door..
          Never mind some things are more important than money.

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  27th March 2020

            It would help if you just answered the questions mate, in your own words please. Instead of serving up an endless stream of whatever TL:DR copy and paste conjecture you manage to google up

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  27th March 2020

        Why do you talk such nonsense, Griff. The Imperial College forecast has been abandoned even by its spokesperson.

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        • Griff.

           /  27th March 2020

          Alan says.

          All this supposedly to save some minor fraction of the now drastically reduced Imperial College estimate of less than 1400 lives at risk

          Why do you talk such nonsense, Griff. The Imperial College forecast has been abandoned even by its spokesperson.

          Oh dear..You are somewhat confused again Alan .
          You do know dementia is another high risk condition.

          The report I posted above is dated 26 of March.
          https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news–wuhan-coronavirus/
          It is the latest information available on their web site.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  27th March 2020

            So the model is now 90% infected with default rate 0.47%. That gives 19k for NZ, not the 60k your Dunedin alarmists produced. 275k for the UK – up just a tad from Ferguson’s “less than 20k” a couple of days ago – and 1.27M for the US – down from their 2.2M alarmism in February. Noy much consistency is there?

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            • Griff.

               /  27th March 2020

              Alan.
              Here is what the report actually says.

              Our estimated impact of an unmitigated scenario in the UK and the USA for a reproduction
              number, R0 , of 2.4 (490,000 deaths and 2,180,000 deaths respectively) closely matches the
              equivalent scenarios using more sophisticated microsimulations (510,000 and 2,200,000
              deaths respectively)8

              Why do you tell lies mate ?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  27th March 2020

              I don’t lie. I explained my straightforward calculations based on their global averages. I expect they are at least as accurate as their mythical R0 factor.

              However I accept that evidently this is still the same paper/ results as was produced in February whatever the date at the top.

              It has been challenged by both US and UK research groups.

            • Duker

               /  27th March 2020

              Experts here ARE saying we dont know the Covid death rate
              https://www.statschat.org.nz/2020/03/23/another-reason-why-we-dont-know-the-covid-19-mortality-rate/

              Are you a Biomedical Statistics professor Griff …or more likely a complete….

    • Blazer

       /  27th March 2020

      India has 4000 suicides a WEEK…that’s before C19.
      p.s its not a contagious disease.

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  8. US cases have just passed Italy and China, now at 82,404 (deaths now 1,178).
    – source Fox and https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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  10. Eight takeaways on the coronavirus pandemic from a Fox News Poll released Thursday.

    — President Trump’s overall job approval ticks up, while large numbers of Democrats and Republicans approve of infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci.

    — Equal numbers of voters, 9 in 10, are concerned about the spread of coronavirus in the U.S. and that the virus will cause a recession.

    — More than 4 in 10 say someone in their household lost their job or work hours because of the virus.

    — The number of Republicans feeling “nervous” about the economy is up 26 points.

    — Voters split over whether Trump’s response to the outbreak is appropriate, while one quarter feel most Americans are “overreacting.”

    — When asked about Uncle Sam’s ability to check Mother Nature, more blame the government for the virus spreading the way it has than say it was unstoppable.

    — Most voters say their daily life has changed because of coronavirus, and large numbers are praying for health, avoiding public places, and washing their hands.

    — More Democrats than Republicans are concerned about the virus spreading nationally and about personally catching it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/poll-recession-fears-coronavirus-us-economy

    I doubt many people in New York think there has been an overreaction.

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  11. duperez

     /  27th March 2020

    The USA is top of the world!

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    Can you hear it? “Yes, the numbers are great, things have never looked so good, we’re really positive about Easter … ”

    I just heard Trump saying, “It’s one thing to have it, (covid-19) it’s another thing to die.”

    The country clearly is in excellent hands. 🙃

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  27th March 2020

      Trump nailed it there, dups. Best thing is to have had it and not even noticed it let alone died from it.

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  12. Gezza

     /  27th March 2020

    Today’s Trump Corona Task Force briefing, where half the useful time is wasted by Trump inserting himself & his ego & inanities & blitherings into the front end, as usual.

    Trump has spent the last few days studiously & carefully avoiding calling it “the Chinese Virus”, referring to it instead as “the invisible / hidden enemy”, “this problem”, anything but a virus.

    About halfway through this briefing video, a Bloomfield reporter successfully & effortlessly baits him into going off on another rant about the “Chinese Virus”. I think they do it for fun now.

    The guys who do the serious communication work once “aren’t I great” Trump buggers off are pretty good at their roles.

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    • Duker

       /  27th March 2020

      Clearly Trump has taken up residence inside your head…and you hate him!

      Theres all the Music and Poetry of the world to tap into and yet whats music to your ears is a delusional narcissist

      Its not good for your mental health, so as they say about Folk Music – Use the Off Switch

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      • Gezza

         /  27th March 2020

        No, I don’t like him, but I don’t hate him. I think you might be confusing me with Ishmael.

        The guy just fascinates me – when I’m in the mood to watch any of his performances. How the fk he ever got elected, & the US even functions under a chaotic egotistical President like that just astonishes me & frequently plain old amuses me.

        Yet it does. And some of his policies are actually solid, sensible stuff, even though he’s a nutbar himself.

        I’ve only got interested in his Task Force briefings because some of his appountments & measures looked sensible, & I can see that he’s been trying to be more Presidential and less partisan; but he just can’t get past his own personality flaws. The dude may yet get another four years. Its a crazy country.

        Funnily enuf this morning I was picking out the chords playing along with a youtube video of Waterloo Sunset, because it came into my head for some reason & although I’ve always loved that song I never tried to play it. And I never realised how simply it’s constructed.

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  13. lurcher1948

     /  27th March 2020

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUFAbMHX0AAiYEr?format=jpg&name=small
    So thankful that it isn’t our leader, thanks be Jacinda Ardern a REAL leader

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