No hunting and fishing under Level 4 restrictions

A NZ First tweet yesterday suggested that “hunt the roar” (deer hunting) was an allowed activity during the Covid-19 Level 4 lockdown, but that has been ruled out.

The tweet, now deleted, had graphics depicting hunting and said:

“Having to self-isolate doesn’t necessarily mean being locked indoors. You may go for a walk or exercise or hunt the roar, but keep a 2 metre distance from people at all times.”

If allowed that would have given many people an excuse to roam the countryside as long as they had firearms, while everyone else was confined to home or nearby.

Covid-19 Alert Level 4 states:

Public spaces

  • Places where the public congregate must close.
  • All bars, restaurants, cafes, gyms, cinemas, pools, museums, libraries, playgrounds and any other place where the public congregate must close their face-to-face function.
  • Playgrounds are classed as an area where people congregate and so are off-limits.
  • People can exercise outdoors but must maintain a two metre distance from others.
  • People are expected to stay local when leaving the home.

Recreation or exercise

  • You can go for a walk, run, or bike ride. Exercise is good for people’s mental health.
  • If you do, it must be solitary, or with those you live with.
  • Keep a 2 metre distance.
  • However, if you are unwell, do NOT go outside.
  • DOC has closed all its campsites and huts.
  • Do not go hunting or hiking, and especially not on overnight trips.

The day before the NZ First tweet NZ Fish & Game posted under Covid-19 Information:

5.10pm 24 March

The Government’s clear intention at this stage is that fishing and hunting are prohibited during the Alert Level 4 lockdown period. If and when we receive other advice from the Government we will change our position.

Therefore, Fish & Game New Zealand are urging all anglers and hunters to do the right thing and stay at home while New Zealand is at COVID-19 Alert Level 4.

“Unfortunately, being at Level 4 means that anglers and hunters aren’t able to do the pursuits that they love,” Fish & Game New Zealand Chief Executive Martin Taylor says.

“The advice we have is that at Alert Level 4 anglers and hunters should not undertake activities that expose them and others to higher levels of risk. We are also advised that DOC huts and campsites are closed as they do not meet minimum separation requirements.”

New Zealand Search and Rescue (NZSAR) is asking people to stick to simple outdoor exercise and avoid areas where they could get lost or require search and rescue. NZSAR want to ensure that emergency services are available to help those in the greatest need. Fishing and hunting, even close to home, inherently carry a degree of risk and it is important for anglers and hunters not to further burden our emergency services and healthcare system. Staying in and around home is simply the right thing to do.

“It is heart-breaking to not be able to spend time in the outdoors, especially as for many of us this is our main way to destress, but we all have our part to play to beat COVID-19,” Mr Taylor says.

“The point of the next four weeks is to kill the virus in New Zealand so that life goes back to normal as quickly as possible. Let’s stay home for four weeks then we can get outdoors and back into angling and hunting.”

The Level 4 lockdown period is scheduled to end prior to the start of the game bird season, and if we are all responsible during the next four weeks the game bird season is on.

We ask for your patience while we piece together the complexities of what we are facing. In particular, we will have further advice on pegging day as soon as possible.

It is our intention to give anglers and hunters ongoing updates on our facebook page and website.

Please keep up-to-date with all the most recent Government guidance around COVID-19 here

If hunters and fishers were allowed to roam where ever they liked, which would often have involved travel first, it would have encouraged others to push limits and it could easily have become an unmanageable farce.

It would also have potentially been dangerous, as if they were to comply with requirements to keep isolation within households many hunters and fishers would have had to hunt and fish alone.

Last night NZ First changed their Facebook profile picture to:

and a Winston Peters video reinforces this message:

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51 Comments

  1. David

     /  26th March 2020

    The more restrictive and brutal this is the quicker the backlash will happen and our wobbly PM will do the right thing and quarantine or stop new arrivals so the rest of the country wont have to endure this extreme reaction for too long.
    I would like to see the police commissioner do as many media appearances as is humanly possible with his authoritarian approach that probably works well on subservient new recruits or crooks but will grate with the public pretty quickly.

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    • “quarantine or stop new arrivals”

      That wouldn’t be practical as all arrivals now should be New Zealand citizens or permanent residents returning home and are required to self-isolate.

      Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has defended her decision not to quarantine everyone arriving into New Zealand as the country enters lockdown.

      “We expected we’ll have roughly 10,000 people coming in, until, roughly, the end of the month,” she told Heather Du Plessis-Allan on Newstalk ZB.

      “The best way that we can do that is put those at the highest risk, those who are symptomatic, or those that are unable to isolate themselves as they travel to get to their final destination, or who cannot self-isolate themselves, into an approved facility.”

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12319721

      10,000 more people on top of those who have arrived over the last two weeks, crammed into quarantine, would likely cause more problems than it would prevent.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  26th March 2020

        How is it possible to create more problems than their incompetent border management already has?

        Three possible options:
        1. Close down the country as per NZ
        2. Close, test, quarantine borders and isolate all contacts as per Singapore
        3. Protect the vulnerable and ramp up medical facilities as per US, UK.

        My bet is the last will come through faster and far better.

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        • I know the populations are different, but current confirmed deaths:
          Singapore 2
          New Zealand 0
          UK 435
          US 800+

          Many of the cases here arrived from the UK and US.

          I’m very happy I’m living in New Zealand with our current actions – I was grateful for the level 4 lockdown.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  26th March 2020

            The Level 4 lockdown achieves nothing except impoverishing and probably killing people until the borders are secured.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th March 2020

              I am not grateful for being unable to go to the doctor for a repeat prescription of asthma inhalers and other things because surgeries are in lockdown. I am rationing the inhalers that I have because I don’t know how much is left and I only use them when I’m really bad.

              I don’t suppose that other people who can’t have medical care from a GP are glad to make the sacrifice.

              I wonder how many people will die because we’re all under house arrest.

            • Duker

               /  26th March 2020

              Surgeries arent closed down , call them up or email them and they will send your repeat to pharmacist.
              How did you do it before , it must have required some effort on your part…or did it all just fall from the sky like golden apples

            • Duker

               /  26th March 2020

              The pharmacy repeats are being 1 month at a time , the doctors prescriptions will still be for 3 months, so no repeat doctors visits required, as has been reported
              “This won’t change the way prescriptions are written, meaning people will not have to visit a GP more frequently, it only changes the amount of medicine dispensed at each visit to the pharmacy. ”

              Turn the catastrophe volume down a bit, any way arent you saying the restrictions are overblown as the raison ‘d’etre is ‘so people wont die’

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  26th March 2020

              Can we trade in the two extra trips to the pharmacy for a couple of beach visits?

          • David

             /  26th March 2020

            I am grateful we are here too but the borders should have been shut when we went into lockdown, if you arent home yet you had loads of notice then stay where you are then we can stop killing our economy.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th March 2020

              There’s a good chance that my neighbour will die prematurely because her heart surgery has been postponed.As she said, even if there was a chance of her catching the virus, what did she have to lose ?

              No need to say that she is no longer the Jacinda fan that she was before.

            • Duker

               /  26th March 2020

              Cant be that urgent if its postponed, how long has she waited anyway.
              You are clearly have that other virus ..catastrophising every thing

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th March 2020

              It is urgent, her aorta is in very poor condition.

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th March 2020

    As I said, now the socialist control freaks are off on a mad power-drunk binge with no rational basis whatever. There is no sane comparison between the risks walking off every plane and the guy going out with his rod or gun. Just tell them to F.O.

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    • Pink David

       /  26th March 2020

      To be fair, there are plenty of control freaks who are not socialists. Some of them are communists and fascists too…

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  3. Asked at Kiwiblog:

    Why can’t I drive my car to a deserted beach, go for a walk, get back in my car and drive home again? That is by definition a zero risk activity (barring a crash or a break down I guess) , unlike going to the supermarket.

    He said “don’t even think about it”.

    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/03/general_debate_26_march_2020.html/comment-page-1#comment-2667591

    Answered:

    The Director of Civil Defence explained why…

    Each time you take a longish trip (1hr or more) increases the probability that you will need to fill up with petrol within the next few weeks and engage in an exchange with a contaminated surface (pump handle) or another individual .

    I know it sounds dopey as a one-off, but if 30, 000 – 40, 000 folks decide to do similar in your region on every fine day, then you up the possibility of community transmission.

    And the more people travel around, they greater the tempting to just pop in and see someone or run into them by chance.

    If everyone was allowed to travel to any open space to walk pr bike or fish then the chances of meeting someone you know in Dunedin would be high.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  26th March 2020

      If it sounds dopey it is dopey. We’ve had four cases of community transmission in a population of 4.5M. 180 have walked off planes.

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      • Blazer

         /  26th March 2020

        by that definition ….how are the lemons today…Dopey?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  26th March 2020

        I thought that we had nearer 5,000,000, Alan. One case here in 125,000 people, and those were brought in 4 others; 1 in 1,250,000. Some epidemic.

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    • David

       /  26th March 2020

      The chances of someone having an undetected case should be zero in Dunedin by Sunday. You cant fly direct from overseas, you cant fly domestically if you have arrived from overseas at another port, you cant travel by car and everyone should have self isolated long enough for there to be no transmission.
      Theoretically Pete on Monday morning you could stroll down High St and plant a big kiss on the first dame you meet.

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      • Ah, no thanks, I think prison is too big a risk with so many people closed in, if the virus gets loose there it will be a problem.

        I think it’s going to take up to a couple of weeks to see which areas are clear. It may be that they can start lowering the levels on a regional basis, but they first have to stop the movements around the country. It could be that a bunch of those queued up for a ferry are heading this way.

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      • Duker

         /  26th March 2020

        Half of cases may have no symptoms , they may not feel 100% but dont have the usual symptoms. Prince Charles is one.
        Probably not spreading that much either if no coughs but who knows

        Reply
        • One of the biggest problems with spreading it is via hands (that have touched noses, mouths) and then leave the virus on public surfaces.

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  4. David

     /  26th March 2020

    Winston First have given the racing industry an exemption from the lockdown according to Farrar.
    Another nail in the coffin

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    • Gerrit

       /  26th March 2020

      Yeah, what the F. Here is the link

      https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/racing-thrown-a-lifeline-as-training-centres-and-stables-deemed-essential-services/?fbclid=IwAR248jgtcBCOowNNddfh-w2cfhj-N-KsQC9yjFS7enDXRmEQQ9Cs4txyS2U

      “Common sense has prevailed. We’ll be able to look after the horses better rather than just slinging them out in the paddock”.

      “And this will save a heap of jobs and potentially keep the whole game alive. We can continue to train the horses and have them ready to go when racing resumes.

      “Otherwise it could have been another three or four months even when we got back to level three and that would have been disastrous for the industry.”

      This going to raise the ire of many small business owners.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  26th March 2020

        And PG worries about Trump’s self interest in getting reelected.

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        • Blazer

           /  26th March 2020

          your other hero Boris ignores your advice…

          ‘ the UK lockdown is, at least for the moment, more draconian. Over there, people are only allowed to leave their homes to do essential work, exercise or buy food or medicine.’

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  26th March 2020

            More reluctantly, for a shorter time and taking a host of measures to enhance medical resources and establish hard facts currently unknown.

            Like Trump he abhors the loss of liberty socialists crave.

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      • Probably. And athletes wanting to stay fit for when their sport resumes.

        There was always going to be anomalies and weird inconsistencies, and the obvious thought is whether Winston was involved in this decision.

        There’s a need for horse owners to continue to care for their horses, but racing is not food production.

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  5. From RNZ:

    Marlborough’s harbourmaster says people should not go fishing or boating during the four-week lockdown.

    Luke Grogan told Morning Report the Marlborough Sounds has a significant community where only boat-access is possible and it’s a lot of work for emergency services if anything goes wrong.
    “The best thing you can do to support the maritime community is to stay home.”
    He says people should only use their boat for essential needs and not recreational activities.
    “If you’ve got to use your boat to go to the supermarket, I would consider that essential travel, but obviously if you’re just wanting to go out for a jetski ride, or waterskiing or fishing, no, you don’t need to do that, stay home, it’s not helpful.”
    He said there had been indications of people stocking up on fishing supplies just prior to the lockdown, but warned people against heading out to fish.
    “Re-calibrate your thinking and realise the best thing you can do to support your community is not go out on the water.”
    Patrol vessels will be carrying out sweeps of the Marlborough Sounds, to check for any recreational boaties and yachties flouting the lockdown rules.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  26th March 2020

      Stalin’s Russia reborn.

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      • Duker

         /  26th March 2020

        What lockdowns did they have , Stalin was a lover of the ballet , theatre and live orchestras, loved film making as well, getting personally involved.
        Bill English loved the ballet too even making sure that they had a considerable budget boost when other classical arts were frozen…talking about self interest
        And Didnt John Key personally organise the Foreign based trusts could work smoothly in NZ in a tax free environment, his own lawyer was heavily is such work .
        Was that self interest

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  26th March 2020

          And let’s not forget helen, a very generous patron of the arts. Even signed her own work I believe

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          • Blazer

             /  26th March 2020

            how was Clark signing that ‘painting’..self interest?

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            • Conspiratoor

               /  26th March 2020

              Not self interest Blazer. All done in the best possible taste. Just injecting some balance…

              “Prime Minister Helen Clark today announced a significant injection of funding into the arts, culture and heritage sector which, she said, will allow New Zealand’s arts and culture to flourish and create jobs and growth in the industry”

            • Duker

               /  26th March 2020

              All the arts ! And that wasnt a recession time

              Why did English single out Ballet …. the highest of high art when others had ‘to live within the means’…of course Karori must survive no matter what.
              Wonder if they knew down in Southland and were fed that farmer bill nonsense

      • Blazer

         /  26th March 2020

        regarding the handling of this outbreak….what country should we be emulating in our response here in..NZ?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  26th March 2020

      Yet another bureaucrat given power to control your life in the guise of keeping you safe.

      Reply
  6. Duker

     /  26th March 2020

    Meanwhile Sweden with 60 deaths in a population roughly 2x NZ ( 10.3 mill) has only just bought in these restrictions
    ” only allowing restaurants to serve customers at a table, not allowing serving at a bar or other types of serving where many people are close to each other. Restaurants are also recommended to place tables further away from each other…”
    Overseas travel is restricted and no shutdown of business yet, so seems to be like our Level 2 with ‘recommending no unnecessary trips’

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    • David

       /  26th March 2020

      Just been reading that Duker. Seems pointless racking up huge debts that once again the younger generation will have to shoulder, they are still paying for the GFC.

      Reply
  7. Duker

     /  26th March 2020

    Another business which has blurred the margins about operating
    “https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/120561976/coronavirus-work-continues-at-cigarette-factory-through-lockdown

    They seem to think they are ‘essential’ but not on the list

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    • David

       /  26th March 2020

      As an ex smoker they should be allowed to operate, damn things are addictive and its stressful enough being locked down without the pretty awful withdrawl symptoms.

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      • Duker

         /  26th March 2020

        Wine industry is allowed to continue harvest, I think kiwifruit is the same
        Construction industry not allowed…
        Seems to be aimed at not affecting middle class too much , ie My food bag etc continues but takeaways or general food delivery arent.
        Supermarket wine and beer Ok but bottle shops wine, beer spirits RTDs arent

        Notice a pattern, health bureaucrats wont notice a thing with no disruption to their lives

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  26th March 2020

          The vast majority of those who imported the virus will have been the mobile elites and comfortable middle class professionals who will now be happily working from home while the tradees, small business, manual and retail workers are out of work and losing their livelihoods.

          As I stated, the elites are managing their risks not ours.

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