Trump considers quarantine as Covid-19 keeps climbing in US and world

|Earlier this week President Donald Trump said he wanted business and congregations back to normal by Easter Sunday, but with Covid-19 cases and deaths climbing in the US he is now considering imposing quarantines in some areas. However the horse may have already bolted, with a lot of people movement around the country over the last couple of weeks, and new cases and deaths surging.

Cases in the US currently are 105,573 (UPDATE half an hour later 112,468), with deaths now at 1,841 and climbing by hundreds each day.

NHS medical director: if the UK were to keep the number of deaths from coronavirus below 20,000, “we will have done very well”.

On Tuesday Trump’s Easter goal in war on virus a nod to faith, business

President Donald Trump’s “beautiful” idea to reopen the U.S. economy by Easter Sunday and pack church pews that day was dreamed up during a conference call among business leaders desperate to get the country back up and running.

But his target date for easing coronavirus restrictions is another outstretched hand to a group he has long courted: evangelical Christians.

Cooped up at the White House and watching the stock market tumble, Trump had already been eager to ease federal guidelines aimed at halting the spread of a virus that had infected more than 55,000 Americans when about a dozen business leaders convened a conference call on Sunday.

His rush to get back to business as usual was questioned – Trump’s plan to reopen the economy by Easter could cause more damage in the long run, according to LinkedIn’s top US economist

However, framing America’s response as a direct trade-off between the health of its people and the health of its economy could ultimately harm both, according to LinkedIn principal economist Guy Berger.

“There’s no economy without people, so getting them healthy is the way to get the economy off the ground,” Berger told Business Insider.

“That’s why the public health measures are so important and why they’re essential, even though they’re hard in the short run, that’s the only way to really end up rebooting the economy,” he said.

Easing lockdowns and social distancing measures too early, while the virus is still spreading rapidly, could ultimately cause more people to get sick, forcing them out of the workforce and causing an even more negative impact on the economy.

The message must have got through to Trump about the risk – to health, lives and to business – of rushing back to no restrictions.

Fox News: Trump mulls coronavirus quarantine on New York, New Jersey, Connecticut

“Some people would like to see New York quarantined because it’s a hotspot — New York, New Jersey, maybe one or two other places, certain parts of Connecticut quarantined,” he said outside the White House.

“I’m thinking about that right now. We might not have to do it but there’s a possibility that sometime today we’ll do a quarantine — short term, two weeks for New York, probably New Jersey and certain parts of Connecticut.”

He said that if such a move happened, it would be primarily a restriction on residents of those states traveling to other parts of the country.

“This will be an enforceable quarantine, but hopefully we won’t need it,” he said.

The move would be a dramatic escalation of the efforts to stop the spread of the coronavirus, and comes on the back of those states essentially shuttering daily life — closing schools, businesses, leisure activities and urging residents to stay at home.

But this could be too late. Movement of people has been a problem elsewhere in the country for weeks.

Fox News: Frightening cellphone ‘heat map’ shows coronavirus’ potential spread as spring break revelers went home

Heat maps that show cellphone location data in the U.S. paint a disturbing picture of the potential spread of coronavirus as the country grapples with lockdown meaures and tries to stem the virus’ tide.

Tectonix, geospatial data visualization platform, working in partnership with location company X-Mode Social, created an alarming map that shows the impact of ignoring social distancing restrictions.

Focusing on just one group of spring break revelers on part of one beach in mid-March when they left Fort Lauderdale, Fla., it quickly becomes obvious that the thousands of people who were at the beach ended up all over the country — in the Midwest, the Northeast and other parts of the South.

That’s just one example. Contract tracing must be a nightmare.

Reuters: U.S. coronavirus cases surpass 100,000

The sum of known coronavirus U.S. cases soared well past 100,000, with more than 1,600 dead, as weary doctors and nurses coping with shortages resorted to extremes ranging from hiding scarce medical supplies to buying them on the black market.

Reuters: As virus threatens, U.S. embraces big government, for now

Whatever the motivation, in the scope of two frantic weeks, U.S. elected officials and central bankers have engineered an economic intervention unparalleled outside of wartime.

All in it would supplant perhaps 30% of gross domestic product with government spending and loans, drive the federal deficit as high as needed to make that happen, and broaden U.S. social spending in ways that just a few weeks ago Republicans and President Donald Trump were branding as “socialist.”

In the time taken to put this post together (so far) US cases jumped to 112,468 – that’s how rapidly Covid-19 is growing in the US.


BBC: Number of UK deaths rises above 1,000

The number of people to have died with the coronavirus in the UK has reached 1,019.

The latest government figures on Saturday showed there were another 260 deaths in the UK in a day, up from 759 on Friday.

There are now 17,089 confirmed cases in the UK.

The jump in deaths is the biggest day-on-day increase the UK since the outbreak began. The number of deaths is 34% higher than Friday’s figure.

NHS England Prof Stephen Powis said if the UK were to keep the number of deaths from coronavirus below 20,000, “we will have done very well”.


BBC: More than 900 deaths in a day in Italy

Italy has recorded 919 new coronavirus deaths, its highest daily figure in the outbreak so far.

It means 9,134 people have now died from the virus in the country.

Earlier World Health Organization chief Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said a “chronic global shortage” of protective equipment was one of the “most urgent threats” to the ability to save lives.

Italy is the worst-affected in Europe. Almost everything has been closed and people told to stay at home.

Earlier on Friday, authorities warned that restrictions were likely to be extended beyond 3 April.

That seems inevitable.

Deaths now recorded on JHU&M CRC are at 10,023, cases have jumped to 92,472 (they were 80,589 this time yesterday) so the problem is far from over in Italy.


Spain’s coronavirus death toll rose by 832 in 24 hours, bringing it to 5,690. However, the number of people recovering is also increasing, with a total of 12,285 out of over 72,000 cases

French PM: ‘Fight is just beginning’

The first 15 days in April will be “even more difficult than the 15 we have just left”, French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe has warned.

France has recorded 1,998 deaths and has been in lockdown for 10 days, a period which has now been extended until 15 April.

“I want to speak clearly to the French,” said Mr Phil

Total confirmed coronavirus cases in Africa: 3,926

South Africa has 1,170 but it is spreading across the continent.


There are improvements in places that first has major problems,

The Chinese city of Wuhan, where the virus first emerged, has partially reopened after more than two months in isolation

South Korea says it has more people who have recovered from the virus than infected.


Brazil’s Bolsonaro questions coronavirus deaths, says ‘sorry, some will die’

Following the advice of public health experts, the vast majority of the country’s 26 governors have banned non-essential commercial activities and public services to contain the outbreak in their states.

“I’m sorry, some people will die, they will die, that’s life,” Bolsonaro said in a television interview on Friday night. “You can’t stop a car factory because of traffic deaths.”

Bolsonaro said that in the state of Sao Paulo, Brazil’s economic powerhouse, the death toll seemed “too large.” Sao Paulo has the most cases and deaths so far of coronavirus in Brazil, at 1,223 cases and 68 deaths.

“We need to look at what is happening there, this cannot be a numbers game to favor political interests,” Bolsonaro said.

Earlier on Friday, Sao Paulo Governor Joao Doria, a former Bolsonaro ally who many expect to be a rival in the 2022 presidential election, accused Bolsonaro of promoting “disinformation” by launching a TV ad campaign criticizing the restrictions, featuring the slogan “#BrazilCannotStop.”

The slogan is similar to a campaign in Milan before deaths in Italy soared.

Currently 3,477 cases in Brazil with 93 deaths.

 

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  1. Gezza

     /  29th March 2020

    The message must have got through to Trump about the risk – to health, lives and to business – of rushing back to no restrictions.

    Trump’s blitherings are all over place at his daily Coronavirus Task Force briefings, as per usual. In classic style yesterday he was attacking some governors for not being appreciative enough of him the next he was saying Cuomo was praising him in a telephone call.

    Yesterday he was accusing any of those who say they are not getting enough of the medical equipment they are going to need based on the experts’s projections of politicising – to try and get rid of him. Classic narcissist behaviour. Accusing others of what the narcissist is actually doing. They’re just trying to secure supplies, & he’s the one politicising the issue.

    According to AlJazeera tv’s reporter, Trump pulled back from the opening up again after 15 days after Lindsey Graham told him that if he did that, every death after the reopening would be blamed on him.

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    • Trump’s claim to be considering quarantining NYC, parts of Jersey, and Connecticut is also so much hot air.

      This is beyond Trump’s power. Congress has delegated to the president broad powers over foreign immigration but not power to restrict movement within or among the states. Such powers are reserved by the 9th & 10th amendments to the states & the people.

      This reads only as a threat to bring the military down on NY as retribution for having a competent governor who makes Trump look bad.

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      • Gezza

         /  29th March 2020

        Well, we’ll see. He has a team of sycophantic enablers who go all out find ways of getting what he wants done one way or another.

        I heard something interesting from one commentator on Al Jazeera tv this morning over the confusion he’s causing by saying contradictory things about getting states to go direct to suppliers/manufacturers of ventilators & then about using FEMA to get them & distribute them.

        They can cost anything from $25k to $50k to manufacture, apparently, & none of the companies he’s said are producing them is yet able to ramp up production to anything like the numbers looking likely to be needed at reasonable cost. There are supply chsin problems with componentry. This is why some of his critics are calling for centralised federal ordering and supply management.

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  2. Things are going from very grim to worse in New York. NYC has just bought 45 refrigerated truck trailers – each capable of holding up to 44 bodies — in case city morgues and hospitals become overwhelmed with the number of dead from COVID-19

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/morgue-space-in-virus-hit-nyc-boosted-with-45-cooler-trucks

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    • Gezza

       /  29th March 2020

      Despite one minute telling Americans to obey orders to shelter in place & considering quarantining New Yorkers to stop them travelling to low-incidence states to stop them spreading CV19 across state lines, & heedless of criticism for being hypocritical, he’s apparently decided to flyi in Marine 1 to Virginia to be videoed waving goodbye to the US Navy hospital ship headed for New York. Everything’s still a PR stunt to this bozo.

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  3. When I started this post about 7 am the total US cases were 105,573

    Less than two hours later it has jumped to 115,547

    This may be the time of day stats are collected, but phew.

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    • Griff.

       /  29th March 2020

      World meter has a USA section where you can see what states have yet to report.
      here.
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
      118,592 as of 900am

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    • I’ve been saying “phew” about the exponential increase in positive cases in America for weeks now… and I’ve posted updates on numbers regularly.

      3/1: 89
      3/2: 105
      3/3: 125
      3/4: 159
      3/5: 227
      3/6: 331
      3/7: 444
      3/8: 564
      3/9: 728
      3/10: 1,000
      3/11: 1,267
      3/12: 1,645
      3/13: 2,204
      3/14: 2,826
      3/15: 3,505
      3/16: 4,466
      3/17: 6,135
      3/18: 8,760
      3/19: 13,229
      3/20: 18,763
      3/21: 25,740
      3/22: 33,566
      3/23: 43,734
      3/24: 54,856
      3/25: 68,211
      3/26: 85,435
      3/27: 104,126
       
      And still the alt-Right Libertarian Death Cultists deny that Trump and his administration have performed abysmally. Instead they keep trotting out their lame head-in-the-sand arguments about case to population ratios, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and other garbage.

      Tone-policing the Left while normalizing Trump’s craziness is an addiction.

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      • Gezza

         /  29th March 2020

        Trump’s not mad or crazy. He’s personality disordered. There’s a difference, imo, & it’s why he can’t change the stupid, egotistical, foot-shooting things he does or says when doing so would be comparatively easy & gain him so much more support without losing any he already has from his base.

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        • OK crazy is perhaps not the most PC term to use. How about this…

          Tone-policing the Left while normalizing Trump’s personality disorders and ignoring his increasingly evident fronto-temporal dementia is an addiction

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          • Gezza

             /  29th March 2020

            He’s doesn’t have dementia, Ishmael. As far as I can tell, he hasn’t changed. He’s never been any different from how he is now. It’s just that before, he was running his own business, and his own reality tv show, & he was always top dog as he HAS to be, & has always had the money to hire & fire, & to pay lawyers & other sharp operators to do his bidding, & make him money, & still even turn his business disasters that he sucked others into investing in into personal profit. He’s intellectually lazy & morally bankrupt. He has no friends. He just uses people & turns on them when they disagree or stop massaging his ego. That’s what narcissists do.

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      • Griff.

         /  29th March 2020

        Doubling every three days for weeks and the whacks can not see past yesterdays count.
        Duker and others are still looking at the historic flu numbers and claiming this is not exceptional
        They can not think about the future just like the Great Orange Twit .

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        • Duker

           /  29th March 2020

          Historic was 2 years ago … when it was 4000 per week at its peak , this year US is only at 1000 per week about the same per day number was CV-19 , but of course theres a big tail of 24,000 dead.
          Flu is like CV-19 and the flu could be 5000 per week next year in US, but Im guessing as I dont know the future

          Pray tell us when you could predict the future … even the trained weather forecasters cant go beyond 8-10 days.
          What special training do you undergo?

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          • Griff.

             /  29th March 2020

            Alan
            The deaths USA is recording now are from the cohort infected two weeks ago or more .
            Do the simple maths from the number of infected two weeks ago to deaths now and work out infection now to deaths in two weeks from that or you are just gibbering nonsense that is way below your ability to understand reality.
            In the USA the infection is rampant in every state .
            They all will soon be recording figures Ike New York is today.
            The USA has 400 a day dying and doubling every three days for the last month.
            Even if they went to massive lock down right though the USA today it would be weeks until they make any difference at all to the death curve.

            One good thing is the GOP idiots are going to die in bigger numbers because they are getting fed the same stupidity you are repeating.

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            • Duker

               /  29th March 2020

              You dont know your cohort from your elbow

              Just as well the flu killed of those 24,000 already mostly elderly and sick otherwise they might be finished off by CV-19 ,you could have something to get in a bigger tiss over.
              Even 150 CV deaths in NZ is just bringing forward the flu season from May- Oct to April -may

            • Duker

               /  29th March 2020

              https://www.statschat.org.nz/2020/03/13/why-dont-we-know-the-covid-19-mortality-rate/

              idiots jump in while experts know what they dont know.
              By the way we dont have look for ‘historic’ flu data, the US CDC says this years flu is at epidemic levels

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  29th March 2020

        Ishmael, here’s what one of your Lefty mates has contributed while your media worship him and blame Trump for everything:
        https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/26/cuomo-deserves-no-plaudits-for-his-handling-of-crisis/

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        • Gezza

           /  29th March 2020

          The media don’t “blame Trump for everything”, Al.

          You keep saying don’t pay attention to what he says but you look at what he does. Have you ever actually watched any of his rallies, or his Task Force briefings, in full?

          I have, several, because he’s a fascinating character to study. And because what he DOES includes what he SAYS. And imo, he’s his own worst enemy & a chaotic, narcissistic, bad president, when it would be so easy to be a good, non-divisive one.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  29th March 2020

            The Lefty media does and that’s what Ishmael reads, Gezza.

            You know I never watch videos. He’s a performer and he plays the character that he’s figured works for him. It’s pointless to expect that to change. I’m happy that most of the things he does are sensible and unconstrained by elite group think.

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            • Gezza

               /  29th March 2020

              You know I never watch videos. He’s a performer and he plays the character that he’s figured works for him.

              You have no sound basis for that conclusion because you wilfully refuse to do the most obvious research & properly observe the subject. Were you to do as I do, & watch him as often as I do, you would see that he is NOT playing a charcter that he’s figured works for him. He is daily displaying his narcissistic personality disorder & his chaotic, lazy, nasty nature – not putting on an act. He’s actually a terrible actor. He can’t even stick to a basic script without screwing it up without inane & often nasty, unne essary ad libs.

              It’s pointless to expect that to change.

              Yes, it is. Because his narcissism is so extreme. He CAN’T change. This is something some reporters now exploit by asking questions they know will bait him into shooting himself in the foot.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  29th March 2020

              The reporters are just playing to their audience and Trump is playing to his. That’s the way it has always been and always will be. I don’t find it at all interesting to study.

            • Gezza

               /  29th March 2020

              The reporters are just playing to their audience

              Yes, they are. And right now he’s easy meat because he’s so blinded by his ego & the sycophants around him like Pompeo that he thinks he’s loved & admired & blunders into their traps of showing up his BS & ignorance.

              and Trump is playing to his.

              No. He’s not. He’s just being himself & hoping everybody will forget his screwups & bs, because he never remembers it, so why would anyone else, imo.

              That’s the way it has always been and always will be. I don’t find it at all interesting to study.

              Well, I would put it as “that’s the way he’s alwsys been & always will be”. I can see the things that he’s done that have worked, AND the things that he does that work against him – AND the US. I prefer to see the whole picture with Trump. That means watching him, fully, from time to time. Even I can only stand so much of watching Trump blithering, bullshitting, personally attacking anybody who disagrees with him.

              He’s such an egotistical control freak he often can’t even answer a question he obviously doesn’t know the answer to by saying “I don’t know, I’ll get someone to get back to you on that”. He just makes shit up! He seems unable to let anyone think he doesn’t farkin KNOW EVERYTHING !

            • Gezza

               /  29th March 2020

              Even yesterday, when he got diverted attacking China again – during a flaming Covid-19 briefing, for god’s sake – 3 bloody times he told viewers China was paying the bloody tarrifs everybody but a fecking idiot knows AMERICANS are paying. This wasn’t a way of saying that China is paying the tarrifs INDIRECTLY – the fool is telling himself & Americans CHINA is the one actually paying the tarrifs.

            • Blazer

               /  29th March 2020

              Trump could not get hold of Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent they are in self isolation….however ..to the rescue…

    • Griff.

       /  29th March 2020

      Final number for yesterday USA
      New cases 123,428
      Deaths:+ 515
      Total deaths now 2,211
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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  4. Blazer

     /  29th March 2020

    for Al, David,KC and co….

    ‘However, framing America’s response as a direct trade-off between the health of its people and the health of its economy could ultimately harm both, according to LinkedIn principal economist Guy Berger.
    “There’s no economy without people, so getting them healthy is the way to get the economy off the ground,” Berger told Business Insider.
    “That’s why the public health measures are so important and why they’re essential, even though they’re hard in the short run, that’s the only way to really end up rebooting the economy,” he said.

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    • david in aus

       /  29th March 2020

      I think you are making a straw man argument. A national lockdown has a role if there is uncontrolled community transmission, a lack of testing, and an inability to contact trace because of the numbers.

      There are countries that have managed well without national lockdowns: Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and South Korea. They may need to go to a national lockdown eventually but that is the last resort. Until that point, it is a balancing act between the costs and the benefits.

      The decision of where which direction to go depends on the quality of your data.
      The US had poor quality data, I canceled my trip very early (early Feb) to the US once I heard of community transmission on the West Coast with limited testing. The trajectory is not unexpected to me. The US will be the wost affected because of their weak social fabric and a lack of universal care. Depending on where you are in the US, buying a gun may be prudent.

      What is disappointing is that NZ had lost control. I was curious why Australia had so many cases imported from the US but NZ didn’t seem so affected. NZ was affected but couldn’t see it. These clusters around NZ had shown the blind spots from the lack of testing.

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      • Griff.

         /  29th March 2020

        There are countries that have managed well without national lockdowns: Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and South Korea.

        Mostly because the population are wearing face masks .
        They do little to protect you from others but they do stop the virus spreading from the infected.
        The NZ government should plan to have bulk masks easily available in supermarkets before they relax the lock down .

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        • david in aus

           /  29th March 2020

          Face masks protect you as well. They are definitely better than nothing.

          The reason they discourage it is that it will take the supply from healthcare workers. There is a worldwide shortage.

          Does it make sense: if it does not have a protective effect, why would healthcare workers wear it?

          Don’t procure it yourself, since you are supposed to be home you won’t need it. Healthcare workers will need it more than you. Healthcare workers are discouraged from using them for everyday use except in higher-risk situations. Otherwise, there will be none left.

          I know that in the US and other places they are using the same masks for days, where typically you will dispose of them after one encounter.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th March 2020

      “could” is the big red flag always walking ahead of the crap that follows.

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  5. New York may be weeks from a peak in coronavirus cases. Now other states are preparing for surges

    More than 52,000 of the country’s cases are in New York state, and officials forecast the apex of the pandemic there is still 14 to 21 days away, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday in a news conference.

    Meanwhile, officials in other states are warning they could be next.

    In Los Angeles County, cases more than tripled in six days, and one official says numbers will keep going up. Health Director Barbara Ferrer says she expects to see case counts in Los Angeles double every four days for the next two to three weeks.

    New hot spots have emerged as the numbers have also escalated in other states, the country’s top doctor says.

    Those include Detroit, Chicago and New Orleans, US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams told “CBS This Morning” on Friday.

    “The virus and the local community are going to determine the time line. It’s not going to be us from Washington DC.”

    “People need to follow their data, they need to make the right decisions based on what their data is telling them,” he said.

    https://us.cnn.com/2020/03/28/health/us-coronavirus-weekend-saturday/index.html

    Rather than what Trump is telling them perhaps.

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    • and despite all of the exponential growth in positive cases we are still inundated with tone-deaf Trumpaganda.

      According to Trump supporters Fauci “has become the target of an online conspiracy theory that he is mobilizing to undermine the president.”

      “Over 70 accounts on Twitter that have promoted the hashtag #FauciFraud, with some tweeting as frequently as 795 times a day … The anti-Fauci sentiment is being reinforced by posts from Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, a conservative group; Bill Mitchell, host of the far-right online talk show ‘YourVoice America’; and other outspoken Trump supporters such as Shiva Ayyadurai, who has falsely claimed to be the inventor of email.”

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      • Griff.

         /  29th March 2020

        The bots are out in force spreading propaganda on line.
        The bullshite gets picked up by useful idiots and reverberates far and wide.

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      • Gezza

         /  29th March 2020

        Fauci & others on Trump’s Covid 19 Task force who are actually doing a reasonably competent job despite Trump’s dsily screw ups, bullshitting, & personal attacks on anyone who isn’t covering him with adulation have all so far managed to walk a careful tightrope of seeming to acknowledge his greatness without going overboard before going on to correct his BS & give out accurate information. They are careful not to dispute what he says directly. They take their responsibilities seriously, but not what he says.

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  6. Zedd

     /  29th March 2020

    SHOCK.. MrT is perhaps sounding like, he IS listening to others !
    >rather than his nonsensical drivel (paraphrased): ‘its a Chinese disease’… ‘Im the expert on all things’.. ‘The economy is more important.. than public health’ etc. etc.

    btw: Boris J is looking & sounding increasingly like MrT :/
    >BUT the UK people are less forgiving.. IMHO

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th March 2020

      The UK media are more challenging and diverse than the US although more constrained by the UK official secrets laws.

      The dull conformity of our lot is sickening.

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      • Gezza

         /  29th March 2020

        The dull conformity of our lot is sickening.

        Yes, they are hopeless. Our political pundits are mostly rubbish. Our online newspapers & tv news bulletins are full of trivial shite.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  29th March 2020

          I can’t actually watch current NZ TV news without wanting to throw something at them. It’s switch off from me.

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          • Gezza

             /  29th March 2020

            Yeah, I put 1News at 6 on, but I often switch it off too as there’s too much crap of no supignificance or substance. Who cares what people are doing to fill in their bloody day? What point is there watching some Noddy os Smurfette standing in a street in Wellingto or Auckland or Christchurch telling us there’s hardly anyone about? We farkin know that, dumbarses! Their reporters are basically like over-excited teenagers, & their presenters are fluff bots. But Tv3’s no better.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  29th March 2020

              Exactly.

            • Gezza

               /  29th March 2020

              Last night I left it on but I think I was actually reading comments here. I happened to look up during the sports segment. Some bloody Smurfette was standing in front of sn empty stadium in Christchurch or somewhere telling us last year the game was cancelled because it wae the day after the mosque attacks & this year it was csncelled because of tne lockdown.

              I thought: “WTF ? If there’s no flamin” game, & the stadium’s flamin’ empty – there’s nothing sporty bloody going on ! Why the hell are you even bloody on my damn telly, telling us this, for god’s sake!”

            • duperez

               /  29th March 2020

              It just shows the reality that ‘news’ is. It’s out-of-season for politics so they’re struggling for stories.

              When there are days without ads and no politics like at Christmas they present ‘feel good’ stories. In normal situations do people want to see those stories? Would they watch just a diet of those?

              Politics provides fodder, and disasters and terrible happenings are great. Sports are wonderful, controversy in sports a godsend. Sports coverage via satellite are gold in that reporters aren’t needed locally to cover events and the splurges from outfits like the Warriors and Super Rugby has their sports allotment and our diet easily done and dusted.

              ‘Over-excited teenagers’? TV3 seldom has coverage of a sport I follow although it’s an Olympic sport involving men and women and there are multiple events international and local. The biggest attention it got in recent years was when there was a situation to be turned into a ‘controversy.’ For several nights the ‘over-excited teenager’ reporter was gushing, all orgasmic over the incident. The only relevance in the sport to him and his editors was the sensationalist shock, horror value they could squeeze out of it not the normal boring doings.

              Ironically at the Rugby World Cup last year some in the media thought the over-excited teenager type reporter was subject to poor treatment by the NZ coach. The guy was given credit and status by being described by colleagues as a ‘senior’ and ‘experienced’ journalist. The record is the record, shit is shit, it doesn’t matter how old it is, it still smells.

              Everyone is cutting back, it’s down to essentials. Newscasts for an hour at six might be a habit for them which they want to be a habit for us, but is it essential? If there’s no snow it’s a waste of time getting the skis out. If there’s no news, or you can’t find it I suppose you have to create it.

              The best brains in the industry won’t be looking for news though, they’ll be feverishly considering ways to attract and enthral us since there’s not enough news. I guess that means the over-excited teenagers will have the freed up time slots full of ‘Aussie One Night Stands’ and ‘Survival Cooking for Underwater Married at First Sight Dancing with the Stars Challenge.’

              That’ll be so fantastic that in the New Year Honours list expect Julie Christie to be made a Double Dame.

            • Gezza

               /  29th March 2020

              That’s why I watch an Al Jazeera tv newshour at least once a day, dupers. There IS news happening all the time, all around the world, & even allowing for the fact that Covid-19, as it’s affecting countries all round the world, is now taking up by far the bulk of their coverage too, at least they also cover significant events beyond our shores, & it’s often covered in some depth. There’s almost no international news on our tv news, & what there is is fluff centred around either the vacuuous presenters or boy reporters getting asked for their personal opinions on stuff they actually know bugger all about.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  29th March 2020

            There won’t be a pointless live cross contest this year; there would be far too many contendors.

            I have stopped watching the news; it’s the same old thing repeated like a stuck record.

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  7. david in aus

     /  29th March 2020

    Why isn’t the media asking the hard questions, as in Australia, US, and UK? Over the lack of testing.

    The rate of increase in cases in NZ is faster than in Australia and is more similar to European countries than in advanced Asian countries. NZ had the advantage of being a follower and could learn from others’ mistakes.

    Do we have media to hold the government to account or are they mere cheer squads?

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    • Blazer

       /  29th March 2020

      this is new territory..there is no correct template.

      It is totally premature to judge the lockdown’s effectiveness or any alternate measures advocated.

      Reply
      • david in aus

         /  29th March 2020

        Lockdown, if effectively done, will work. The question is: how did we to this stage so fast.

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        • david in aus

           /  29th March 2020

          “The question is: how did we get to this stage so fast.”

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          • Duker

             /  29th March 2020

            “The rate of increase in cases in NZ is faster than in Australia ???

            Most of NZs cases are from overseas. You could be looking for a mirage as we started later from a smaller base ( Sydney had direct flights from Wuhan)
            It will be a week + till the effects of the lockdown are known as the incubation stage lasts that long.
            I have no doubt it will work as there is a massive reduction in personal contacts but the bigger question is the change in deaths would only be a blip on the 31,000 who die annual ( and most of those would be ‘brought forward from winter’)

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th March 2020

      As I said, they regard themselves and behave simply as the propaganda department of the Government. It’s a shameful dereliction of democracy. I can’t decide whether the lack of brains or morals is the primary cause.

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      • Blazer

         /  29th March 2020

        we understand you do not like this Govt.Simple Simon has offered no plausible solutions.

        The MSM’s job has always been to soothe the masses.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  29th March 2020

          I don’t hate the Govt, B. I think they are doing their best but in some important aspects of life they are woefully short of experience and expertise.

          I agree Simon is best viewed as a vacant space. As is our MSM unfortunately.

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  8. Blazer

     /  29th March 2020

    Countries around the world have been updating the number of people caught up by the pandemic. Here’s a breakdown of some of the latest figures:

    Authorities in the Netherlands have reported 1,159 new coronavirus cases and 93 deaths. So far, 9,762 cases have been reported in the country and 639 deaths

    Switzerland says deaths from coronavirus have risen to 235 – an increase of 40 in 24 hours. The country has confirmed 13,213 cases

    Vietnam’s health ministry says there have been a total of 174 confirmed cases and no deaths

    In Russia, officials have reported a total of 1,264 cases – an increase of 228 in 24 hours. The country has reported four deaths in total, but these figures have been disputed

    The Czech Republic says 2,422 people have tested positive so far, and nine people have died

    Belgium has reported 1,850 new cases and 64 deaths in 24 hours. In total, the country has reported 9,134 cases and 353 deaths

    Iran says 2,517 people have now died from coronavirus, with 139 fatalities in the past 24 hours. In total, the country has reported 3,076 cases

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  9. Duker

     /  29th March 2020

    The editor in chief of the Lancet , the pre-eminent UK medical journal has been caught out lying over his comments about the UK governments lack of preparedness
    “We knew in the last week of January that this was coming – the message from China was absolutely clear that a new virus with pandemic potential was hitting cities.” – Richard Horton

    His twitter feed back in Jan 24 says differently ” media are escalating anxiety by talking about a killer virus and growing fears …… Chinese authorities have acted quickly and decisively to control the outbreak…” @richardhorton1

    In reality hes complete liar. And this was the same editor who published and long supported the discredited Wakefield study which linked autism to vaccines

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  10. The British Prime Minister, who is isolating himself at 10 Downing Street after testing positive for coronavirus, is writing to every UK household to urge people to stay at home.

    Boris Johnson has described his symptoms as mild, and says he’s still leading the government’s response to the crisis, chairing meetings by video conference.

    Downing Street says the letter will tell all citizens that things will get worse before they get better, but the more people who follow the rules, the fewer lives will be lost and the sooner life can return to normal.

    – RNZ Live

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    • Gezza

       /  29th March 2020

      Reality bites Boris in the bum.

      At key moments in the outbreak, Johnson has seemed in denial about the size of the threat—and to his critics, it showed. At the start of the month, the premier quipped that while everyone must wash their hands for the time it takes to sing “Happy Birthday,” that did not stop him shaking hands with people he meets.

      “I can tell you I am shaking hands continuously,” Johnson told reporters in a clip that has since gone viral on Twitter. “I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody.”

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-28/johnson-s-war-with-coronavirus-is-no-joke-anymore?srnd=brexit

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    • Blazer

       /  29th March 2020

      writing to 30 odd million households could take some time…he must be self isolating for…decades.

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  11. President Donald Trump has said quarantining New York “will not be necessary”, after the state’s governor said doing so would be “preposterous”. Mr Trump said the latest decision was taken on the recommendation of the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/412868/coronavirus-trump-backs-away-from-new-york-quarantine

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    • Duker

       /  29th March 2020

      Trump wins either way on that one…
      Rat cunning of his advisers on that one…hes moved his legal residence to Florida about a year ago

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