The number of confirmed cases of the Covid-19 coronavirus has just passed 1 million.
Note that this is confirmed and advised cases, there will be many more undetected cases around the world.
This is a rapid rise.
- 11 February – 45,134
- 5 March – 98,425
- 19 March – 244,902
- 25 March – 471,035
- 2 April – 1,007,128
Recorded deaths are currently 51,704 but even this could be under-reported.
Italian deaths could be twice as high – study
A study revealing the hidden toll of coronavirus at the epicentre of Italy’s outbreak has revealed the real death toll could be double official figures.
A study by Bergamo newspaper L’Eco di Bergamo with the InTwig data analysis agency puts the number of virus deaths last month at 4,500, compared with the official toll of 2,060, in the province of 1.1 million people.
Mayors have warned that the official numbers fail to take into account the many people dying at home or in rest homes who have never been tested for the virus.
Under current policies, only those who arrive at hospitals manifesting strong symptoms are tested.
Official deaths in Italy are currently 13,915.
MaureenW
/ 3rd April 2020And here in NZ we have 14 in hospital and 2 in ICU. It doesn’t seem worth rooting the economy for.
There seems to be some missing puzzle pieces.
Blazer
/ 3rd April 2020You will find the NZ Economy is very well …rooted,resilient and durable.
It can recover ,it will not die.People…a bit different.
MaureenW
/ 3rd April 2020NZ will look like Venezuela after this
Blazer
/ 3rd April 2020So you think NZ will discover the worlds biggest reserves of oil!
Fascinating.
MaureenW
/ 3rd April 2020No, but all else will likely be applicable.
The financial impact is clearer than the “saving lives” impact.
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020Blazer, you should be excited, NZ is about to try out some of your ideas. Let’s see how it goes.
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd April 2020Maureen, you and I are in agreement over something 🙂
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020“Mayors have warned that the official numbers fail to take into account the many people dying at home or in rest homes who have never been tested for the virus.”
So what was the cause of death then? Does Italy not have a coroner? Why is every death of someone with C19 counted as a death from C19?
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd April 2020Probably.
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020Same goes for those elderly who die ‘from flu’, not all are in hospital or get a virus test,
Im thinking a large proportion of elderly in some areas who die in hospital are allocated to Covid -19…. its not like its not contagious or anything
In US its something like 8000 per day – on average, so some years are more- those numbers are highly concentrated in elderly as their risk of dying is just so much much higher , even from a stumble getting out of bed.
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020For context;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUdkelWXQAE4z3H?format=jpg&name=medium
Pete George
/ 3rd April 2020A big jump in deaths in France, +1,355 today so far, 5,387 – the biggest rise today.
Yesterday they had 509 deaths. That’s a massive increase today, unless something is wrong with the numbers.
Also yesterday COVID-19 in France: ‘We Are Close to Catastrophe’
Belgium and Netherlands are also relatively high.
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020From Pink Davids link
First 3 months of this year worldwide
250,000 deaths from suicide,
310,000 deaths from traffic accidents ,
20,000 from Covid 19
I dont think “catastrophe’ is a relevant word but its good click bait for the link
Blazer
/ 3rd April 20201 of those things is not like the other….2.
Pete George
/ 3rd April 2020Total reported deaths from Covid now 52,993, if they keep increasing at that rate it will be catastrophic (was it really only 20,000 two days ago?)
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020the 52k seems to be ‘wikipedia’ via google ????
Dont know where you are getting your Sweden numbers from either.
Wikipedia link to the WHO page only gives latest Sweden as 239 ( and not 52K global either)
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=5ae25bc7_2
Griff.
/ 3rd April 2020Here Duker keep up to date .
World meter Covid 19 updated hourly
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)
Close to Real time .
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
You can also find links to sources at both sites.
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020I looked up the Source from JHU , the WHO and their current numbers are less.
JHU says their numbers dont add up . I prefer WHO’s daily numbers.
…worldometer is absurd. Why not something official and reliable.
Swedish Public Radio was my source for Sweden
You should check your links and sources , I bet you to it and they arent reliable
Griff.
/ 3rd April 2020ROFL
In other words you don’t like what they tell you.
Who will be far behind of these sources JH world meter or WHO?
NZ Number of confirmed and probable cases 868 As at 9.00 am, 3 April 2020
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases
JH and world meter both give 868 as well.
Unsurprisingly.
WHO gives 723 updated 4/3/2020 (Yanky dateing mmddyyyy).
Fancy that the WHO bureaucracy is days behind .
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020“Total reported deaths from Covid now 52,993,”
From covid, or with covid?
Call me Ishmael...
/ 3rd April 2020Duker, that’s a silly and pointless non-comparison, even if every car accident or suicide in the US occurred at the same time. You simply can’t pass “car accident” to anyone in your family, circle of friends, and coworkers like you can pass the coronavirus. What don’t you understand about the words “highly contagious”?
On top of that, on a deaths per day basis, COVID-19 is now the third leading cause of death in the USA, behind heart disease and cancer. And it took only a month.
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/490614-analysis-coronavirus-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-us
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020Dead is dead , and car accidents arent older peoples lifespans shortened a bit
Deaths by 3 months is a good comparsion
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd April 2020Alzheimers doesn’t kill people, so the doctor’s statement doesn’t add up.
With the lockdowns, accidents will go down as people can’t drive as they could. There are likely to be as many per km driven, I imagine.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd April 2020FWIW, the only justification I can see for lockdown is to briefly delay while the best treatment is found.
It should then be replaced by a focus on properly targeted preventative measures:
1. Maintaining control of the borders
2. Minimising indoor contact and shared air
3. Maintaining hand and face hygiene
4. Improved testing, tracing and case management
5. Extra protection of vulnerable people
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020Only in the US could nutters be this deranged
https://www.thedrive.com/news/32854/engineer-tried-to-ram-hospital-ship-mercy-with-his-train-over-fears-of-government-plot
“the CHP officer that witnessed the event detained him and heard martyr-like ramblings such as a claim that the ship was “part of a federal government plot to control our lives,” according to CBS Los Angeles.
“the train smash into a concrete barrier at the end of the track, smash into a steel barrier, smash into a chain-link fence, slide through a parking lot, slide across another lot filled with gravel, and smash into a second chain-link fence.” Moreno’s locomotive came to a halt just past the on ramp to the Port of Los Angeles-spanning Vincent Thomas Bridge, some 250 yards from the Mercy.” [US Navy Hospital ship like the one sent to NY
Duker
/ 3rd April 2020Even more nutters , the right wing christian family owned arts and crafts chain of stores Hobby Lobby
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/hobby-lobby-keeps-disobeying-state-stay-at-home-orders-arts-and-crafts.html
‘“While we do not know for certain what the future holds, or how long this disruption will last, we can all rest in knowing that God is in control,” Green wrote in a letter to Hobby Lobby employees last month.”
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020My god! Religious people owning things! Religious people believing in religion! There ought to be a law…
Griff.
/ 3rd April 2020No but we do get to make fun of fundie nut bars. The USA is full of them.
You are not a god addled nut bar as well are you Pink Dave ?
Do share because I need a good laugh .
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020No mate. Mostly I don’t have any issues with people who are religious. I do, however, have a strong dislike for militant religions like atheism. The worshipers of that religion seem to largely be the bitter and resentful.
Blazer
/ 3rd April 2020bit of a contradiction there PD.
Recommended reading..The God Delusion-R.Dawkins.
Pink David
/ 4th April 2020No contradiction at all. Is that your holy text?
Pete George
/ 3rd April 2020Unemployment not looking good in then US.
Staggering 6.6 million U.S. unemployment applications, over 180,000 statewide last week
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020Covid did not do this.
Gezza
/ 3rd April 2020No. Trump did.
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd April 2020As I understand it, their UB only goes for six months (a finite period, anyway)
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020Trump has not ordered any lockdowns. It’s the state governer’s who have done that.
Gezza
/ 3rd April 2020True, but Trump’s “30 Days To Slow The Spread” instructions start offby telling everyone to listen to and follow the directions of their state authorities. He has given them the ok to make such decisions.
Pete George
/ 3rd April 2020“Prime Minister Scott Morrison and his medical advisers have resisted calls to release that modelling publicly. But according to Sky News political editor Andrew Clennell, it shows the outbreak peaking about Anzac Day on April 25.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12322081
It looks like things could be steadying a bit in Australia…
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
…but it will depend on containment over the next three weeks.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd April 202078% of a day’s new cases in China had no symptoms:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-02/fresh-coronavirus-testing-in-china-finds-more-symptomless-cases?srnd=premium-asia
Pink David
/ 3rd April 2020Funny what you find when you actually look
Tom Hunter
/ 3rd April 2020The testing Fiasco
But…but… I didn’t think this happened to Smart, Educated, Articulate people like our current Labour leaders like Saint Jacinda. I thought testing screwups only happened to real idiots like Trump.
Gezza
/ 3rd April 2020Problems? There’s no problem. It’s all been sorted. As she’s explained. This is the worry when your PM’s job, & background, is PR. She’s very good at PR. And knowing when to take no more questions.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd April 2020It’s called a cover-up, isn’t it?
Gezza
/ 3rd April 2020Cock up or conspiracy?
Either someone in the chain of command is bullshitting the PM, & she’s going out in daily appearances & making a tit of herself by saying it’s all good (quite likely, imo) –
or
Jacinda’s been told that there are still supply & capacity issues, but she’s deliberately going out there & flim-flamming, soothing the repeaters & the public with assurances that we have the capacity & supply to do all the testing now being requested, hoping that it will soon be fixed.