Open Forum – Tuesday 7 April

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  7th April 2020


    Im shaggy,but wont wear a man bun

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  7th April 2020

      No danger of that for me now, Lurch. I can still see out so all good.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th April 2020

        Oh, say, can you see….my eyes ?
        If you can, then my hair’s too short…

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  7th April 2020

          Poor old Mike, stuck in the 90s or whenever the unshaved look was in. It’s most unflattering when the bristles are mostly grey and white.

          I wonder if he has to pay excess luggage charges for the bags under his eyes.

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          • Duker

             /  7th April 2020

            Hes finding his income is cut as advertising on his radio show is massively reduced…. ahh the gig economy,
            thats why hes bleating about the ‘little people’as a cover for his financial wipe out..maybe his wifes half hour show will be terminated as well ?

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            • Corky

               /  7th April 2020

              Sean Plunket believes he won’t be on the radio in 3 months time. That will be less competition for NSR. I wonder if a merger with TVNZ will become a reality, sooner, rather than later?

            • Gezza

               /  7th April 2020

              Jesus, I’ve listened to National Radio on my tv when there’s been only wall to wall crap or broadcasts in Mandarin or Hindi.

              They won’t pick up any new listeners from those who’re into talkbsck radio.

              Boring as batshit most the time.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  7th April 2020

              Unfair to batshit.

              Surely National Radio won’t have talkback; I mean the kind where it’s just the announcer, not some guest.

    • Corky

       /  7th April 2020

      No danger of you wearing a man bun, eh, Lurchy. Your head is as smooth as the flaring on your scooter.

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      • lucher1949

         /  7th April 2020

        Wow do you know me corky,HINT I run dogs doing dog agility its a active physical sport not like blog posting…i think you are remembering how you looked years ago, fat them,now you are FATTER, and PS Corky my hairs getting long and I don’t have a scooter,have my own teeth hair sexual male organs, I’m not gay married 2 children, own a mortgage-free home 2 cars heaps of money,is this a help Corky and yes my computer is a HP 1tb core i7 computer with nivadia G FORCE graphics through a 104 MPS ,100MPS unplan,from a D-LINK mid range router, so in summery Corky I’m a hairy 71 yo man with my own teeth ,fit,run dogs don’t have a scooter, and hope to have sex tonight,UNLIKE YOU
        Corky this was an effort,read

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  7th April 2020

          Corky wanted an e-scooter that could hold someone who weighed 150kg, Lurch.

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        • Corky

           /  7th April 2020

          A computer with an i7 processor through a D-Link? You need a new computer tech, Lurchy.

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  7th April 2020

    I see supermarkets are telling customers to pack their reusable bags in the carparks. This is really bringing home the incredible stupidity of the plastic bag ban and of those who supported it. You see them holding up the checkout for ten minutes at a time with their dirty old bags which they don’t even think of doing anything with until they have unpacked their trolley they were at the bottom of and the cashier has scanned everything through. Then they totter around to the other side and spend forever slowly packing their silly bags and putting them into their trolley. Finally they are surprised at being asked to pay and have a hunt for their purse and then inside it and finally struggle with the payment terminal and bugger off to let the next one start the same agonising performance.

    God, it’s lucky I’m patient!

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    • “This is really bringing home the incredible stupidity of the plastic bag ban and of those who supported it. ”

      We were talking about this at home yesterday as we were shuffling around reusable bags. It would be a lot simpler and potentially safer to have the plastic bags.

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      • Blazer

         /  7th April 2020

        Unfortunately the ban on plastic bags was made without the knowledge that we would be subject to this event and its consequences.

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        • Duker

           /  7th April 2020

          Plastic bags would have spread infections like anything in the supermarket, as they are handled by checkout operators and self service checkouts the customers would handle ‘the stock’
          Getting people out of the store quickly was the principle idea and its not unusual for most customers to push their trolley to their car to load up.
          Clueless !

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  3. Blazer

     /  7th April 2020

    Zeitgeist….
    Fraud,fake accounts,money laundering,NINJA loans,rigging rates,over charging,and every other misfeasance by banks is now accepted as ‘normal’!

    You can trace this abandonment of any morality back to the 80’s and the deregulation of big banks.

    With the repeal of Glass Steagal they took that as an invitation to make money irrespective of any legal guidelines or moral principle.’

    That it has gone on for so long and is now accepted as ‘normal’ is an indictment on both apathy of the populace and the supreme power of corporations owning politicians.

    As long as you have a polar fleece and a hotcross bun,all is well with ..the world.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  7th April 2020

      Have you heard of the 1720 South Sea Bubble ?

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    • Gezza

       /  7th April 2020

      Just got an email from Macpac telling me the polar fleece jacket is on its way.

      Just as well. I’m all out of hot cross buns.

      When it turns up, according to your criteria, I’ll at least be able to be warm & feel like things are half right with the world.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th April 2020

        I remember when a group wanted to ban hot cross buns because they were offensive to the local Muslims. The Muslims responded politely but firmly that they were not offended by hot cross buns and were capable of speaking for themselves, thank you.

        No need for fleece up here, it’s still summer clothes weather.

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      • Blazer

         /  7th April 2020

        Those hot cross buns didn’t last long!!
        Was it only a…6 pack.

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        • Gezza

           /  7th April 2020

          Yup. Everything in moderation, my man. The pack I bought were big buns. Two a day was enuf. While I like to get them at Easter time, for a nostalgic treat, I’d soon get tired of them if I carried on buying them for too long afterwards.

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  4. Fox anchor: Can you tell me your thoughts on the drug that is used normally to treat malaria.

    Dr. Haseltine: It’s sad to me that people are promoting that drug.

    Anchor: But what about the anecdotal evidence?

    Haseltine: That’s complete and utter nonsense. Irresponsible.

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    • Duker

       /  7th April 2020

      “I am a medicinal chemist who has specialised in discovery and development of antiviral drugs for the past 30 years, and I have been actively working on coronaviruses for the past seven. I am among a number of researchers who are concerned that this drug has been given too much of a high priority before there is enough evidence to show it is indeed effective.”
      This a NZ expert
      https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/06-04-2020/sorry-trump-theres-little-evidence-that-hydroxychloroquine-can-treat-covid-19/

      “Furthermore, 85% of the patients[in the French study] didn’t even have a fever – one of the major telltale symptoms of the virus, thus suggesting that these patients likely would have naturally cleared the virus without any intervention.”

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      • Duker

         /  7th April 2020

        oops..not NZ
        Katherine Seley-Radtke is a professor of chemistry and biochemistry at the University of Maryland and president-elect of the International Society for Antiviral Research,”

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  7th April 2020

        Bet Boris wishes he had taken Trumpy’s advice and taken it.

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        • The only possible benefits that I’ve seen are for people with mild symptoms. Boris seems to have got a bad dose (of the virus).

          Actually, we don’t know what treatments Boris has tried.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  7th April 2020

            I suspect we are going to hear that fatalities are high for those working under stress while infected like medics and those in leadership roles. Sadly I am very pessimistic for Boris.

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    • Pink David

       /  7th April 2020

      What’s the down side then of using a speculative treatment given he seriousness that you believe C19 represents.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th April 2020

        There’s a chance with any medicine that people may react badly to it. I am allergic to penicillin, and have had bad reactions to other drugs inc. one painkiller that is known to cause side effects in some patients.

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      • Corky

         /  7th April 2020

        I know nothing about this drug. But it’s the old story that even in times of crisis when all else is failing, most authorities are unwilling to throw the kitchen sink at said crisis*. They are quite prepared to let patients die while following standard protocols. In the case of Boris, I can tell you, going by personal experience, that he could be on life support by the end of the day, and dead before tomorrow should he take a turn for the worse. Let’s hope that is seriously not the case. The psychological impact on the world would be devastating in terms of confidence and leadership. We subconsciously look to leadership to be above any crisis our country may endure.

        * I exclude China and NY city from my critique.

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      • What’s the downside of using a speculative treatment, you ask?

        Hydroxychloroquine requires caution when used on females, geriatric patients, patients with diabetes — this describes a considerable number of COVID-19 patients in critical care! — thyroid disease, malnutrition, liver impairment, or those who drink alcohol to excess — for starters.

        The drug must be used with caution in persons with cardiac arrhythmias, congenital long QT syndrome, heart failure, bradycardia, myocardial infarction, hypertension, coronary artery disease, hypomagnesemia, hypokalemia, hypocalcemia, or in patients receiving medications known to prolong the QT interval or cause electrolyte imbalances.

        Doctors in China tried hydroxychloroquine on critically ill COVID-19 patients but had to back off because it was causing too many severe side effects, including organ damage and death

        None of the research so far has been performed in vivo in a large, randomized trial. We really do not know what it will do except for what it has done for malaria patients and for autoimmune disorders — hardly the same things as patients in extremis from COVID-19.

        —————-

        For fact-based reviews of the dodgy studies behind HCQ and its proposed pairing with the antibiotic azithromycin, see these links:

        https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/are-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-an-effective-treatment-for-covid-19/

        https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-versus-covid-19/

        —————–

        But – and more alarming given much hyping of these drugs by Trump, Giuliani, John Solomon and his ilk – there is another issue.

        Trump and several of his cronies has a financial interest in Sanofi, the French pharmaceutical company that manufactures the drug under the brand Plaquenil.

        Sanofi’s largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the mutual fund company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump.

        Another investor in both Sanofi and Mylan, another pharmaceutical firm, is Invesco, the fund previously run by Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary.

        And as of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge & Cox mutual fund, whose largest holding was in Sanofi.

        That explains why Trump is not pushing companies to produce more PPE and ventilators, or promoting social separation and wearing of masks, which are necessary or have proven effective. He’s denying they’re important and denying that his government has a role in providing more of them. Instead, he’s pushing a fake cure that will financially benefit him and his cronies.

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        • And then there are the optics:

          Trump wants to put himself in a situation where he can go on the attack down the road and claim that hundreds of thousands of Americans died needlessly because the Deep State Medical Establishment refused to advocate for the use of his Miracle Cure, HCQ, rather than have to remain on the defensive trying to explain the lack of adequate numbers of ventilators, PPE, and other medical supplies needed for this public health crisis.

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          • Pink David

             /  7th April 2020

            “rather than have to remain on the defensive trying to explain the lack of adequate numbers of ventilators, PPE, and other medical supplies needed for this public health crisis.”

            There is no shortage.

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        • Pink David

           /  7th April 2020

          “What’s the downside of using a speculative treatment, you ask?”

          Why does this not also apply to the almost total shutdown of entire countries in response to this virus?

          It’s a speculative treatment with tremendous side effects that has never been clinically tested. Yet that is what is being done. The use of this drug seems to be a minor issue in that context.

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  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  7th April 2020

    Who on earth is making the decisions on what is essential and what isn’t ?

    I could go to the Warehouse and buy pavement chalks. bags of feathers, bags of googly eyes. coloured labels and bulldog clips….but not things like tins of chickpeas and red beans.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  7th April 2020

      It’s insane isn’t it? A medical bureaucrat deciding the nation’s needs and priorities and which businesses can operate. No wonder people are getting angry.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  7th April 2020

        I’d have thought that tinned beans were more important than bags of feathers or pavement chalks and highlighters. It’s not The Warehouse’s fault. The powers that be have decided that stationery items like coloured labels are essential and food isn’t.

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      • Duker

         /  7th April 2020

        What Warehouses are open ? They are only sending out stuff that is essential, other goods bought online are held till lockdown ends
        Chickpeas are probably imported so supply chain has limited quantities in country, they can sell what they dont have after panic buying

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  7th April 2020

          The Warehouse is open online. I looked up chickpeas and beans to see if they were in the essential items (petfood is, even treats) but food for humans seems not to be.

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          • Kitty, you can buy chickpeas from Countdown OnLine or from their bricks-and-mortar outlets

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            • Duker

               /  7th April 2020

              [Deleted comment and a warning not to do this again or I will take further action. PG]

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  7th April 2020

              MOD !

              That is totally offensive, and if you look up the Warehouse, you will see that they do, in fact, sell chick peas, red beans and four bean mixture.

    • Blazer

       /  7th April 2020

      I can understand ‘googly eyes’ being essential….there are a couple of posters here who wouldn’t last a day…without..them!

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  6. duperez

     /  7th April 2020

    “Cardinal George Pell to walk free after Australian High Court overturns conviction”

    I’d read accounts of some of the evidence at the time of Pell’s trial which made one wonder if like many things there could be more to it than met the eye.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/120869676/cardinal-george-pell-to-walk-free-after-australian-high-court-overturns-conviction

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  7. Pete Navarro, Trump’s own trade advisor, warned Trump’s administration in January that the coronavirus crisis could cost the United States trillions of dollars and put millions of Americans at risk of illness or death. From his memo:

    “The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on U.S. soil. This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”

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  8. Pink David

     /  7th April 2020

    Huge layoffs of medical staff all across the US. They have nothing to do.

    https://apnews.com/811b2057ad110605fa70a2745e5e0ee4

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  9. Zedd

     /  7th April 2020

    Daleks are patrolling the LOCKDOWN in Yorkshire UK
    “Exterminate” sounded like Duterte had sent them :/

    OR filming the new series ? 🙂

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  7th April 2020

    Stuff death,,if i could play like this after Grace Slick speaks…dying happy is important, having this mans skills if only is far better

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