Pope wants to ban indifference, self-centredness, division and forgetfulness

Religion may help some people cope with the Covid-19 virus, but even people as high as the head priest can’t do much but console and support – and suggest bans of common human conditions.

Reuters: Banish ‘self-centredness’, pope tells the world as it faces coronavirus

The pope’s Easter “Urbi et Orbi” (to the city and the world) message, delivered from an empty St. Peter’s Basilica instead of to the usual crowd of tens of thousands in the square outside, was by far his most pressing and political since his election in 2013.

“This is not a time for indifference, because the whole world is suffering and needs to be united in facing the pandemic,” he said in the message, almost entirely dedicated to the pandemic’s effects on personal and international relations.

“Indifference, self-centredness, division and forgetfulness are not words we want to hear at this time. We want to ban these words forever!” he said.

It doesn’t say how he plans to ban those things. Maybe he will call on people to pray for it.

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  1. Corky

     /  13th April 2020

    ”It doesn’t say how he plans to ban those things. Maybe he will call on people to pray for it.”

    i wonder what would happen if 8 billion souls concentrated on one objective each day?

    I know what happens when thirty people concentrate on influencing the share market.

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    • Gezza

       /  13th April 2020

      How much did you make on the market ? 😐

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      • Corky

         /  13th April 2020

        I covered that during my comments on my A2 Milk. We gave it a nudge along when it went through a period of doing nothing much. However, most of the action happens on other markets…much of which I’m not involved with.

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    • Duker

       /  13th April 2020

      Thats because he didnt say he wanted to ban these ‘things’, despite what PG post says
      If you read Pope Francis “We want to ban these words forever!

      Words are not the same as things

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      • Corky

         /  13th April 2020

        ”Words are not the same as things”

        Well, of course they are the same thing. They are the subjective manifestation of physical actions or things they represent. You can’t have one without the other.

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  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th April 2020

    He didn’t worry the words will escape into Latin when he bans them?

    I suspect the only way to ban indifference is to increase division. Whatever, the whole notion is bonkers but at least less harmful than banning contraception and sex. Keep Catholics banning words rather.

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    • Duker

       /  13th April 2020

      http://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/urbi/documents/papa-francesco_20200412_urbi-et-orbi-pasqua.html

      This is not a time for indifference, because the whole world is suffering and needs to be united in facing the pandemic…
      This is not a time for self-centredness, because the challenge we are facing is shared by all,..
      This is not a time for division. May Christ our peace enlighten all who have responsibility in conflicts…
      This is not a time for forgetfulness. The crisis we are facing should not make us forget the many other crises that bring suffering to so many people…..

      Its more correct to say he says “This is NOT a time for XXXXX” – insert action word here

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  3. David

     /  13th April 2020

    Sounds like an internal memo for Vatican staff and management.

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  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th April 2020

    In other news, North Korea has banned coronavirus and has no cases to report since anyone carrying it will be shot. Another triumph for socialism.

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    • Blazer

       /  13th April 2020

      Nth Korea is NOT a socialist country.
      Norway however…is.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  13th April 2020

        Norway can’t be. It makes a capitalist fortune from plundering the sea for oil and fish.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  13th April 2020

        The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK)), is governed by the Workers’ Party of Korea

        Another socialist triumph for the workers you should aspire to, B.

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        • Gezza

           /  13th April 2020

          North Korea is a dynastic dictatorship, Al.
          It’s not a socialist state.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  13th April 2020

            Dictatorship is the essence of socialism, Gezza. They vary only in the numbers of their elite. Like the present lot running our police state.

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      • Pink David

         /  13th April 2020

        Why do you keep posting that Norway is socialist when if follows very few policies that are in anyway socialist? What Norway is is Rich. It is better to be a rich country than a poor country.

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        • Blazer

           /  13th April 2020

          Socialism” is a much splendored and reviled thing.
          – we shall take it to mean “social democracy”, as in the movement that grew out of the roots of socialism in Western-Europe and has a tradition of working with a capitalist economy rather than driving to overthrow it.
          By that definition, these countries are:
          Norway
          Germany
          The Netherlands
          Sweden
          France
          Denmark
          quora

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  13th April 2020

            So socialism is something that grew out of socialism to be not socialism.

            Well that’s quite clear then.

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          • Pink David

             /  13th April 2020

            What measure do you use to get this list? The UK has a totally socialised health care system, None of the countries you listed has that.

            It also has a far more re-distributive tax system.

            Doesn’t that make the UK more Socialist than your ‘Social Democracies”

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            • Blazer

               /  13th April 2020

              yes add the UK….and duker’s list re Norway-

              State hydro , Sate oil , state gas pipelines, state rail, State Post , State Housing Bank, state community banking, State hospitals, state lottery, state broadcasting, state electricity lines, state forests

  5. patupaiarehe

     /  13th April 2020

    “Indifference, self-centredness, division and forgetfulness are not words we want to hear at this time. We want to ban these words forever!” he said.

    Interesting. Perhaps the same attitude should have been applied to historical indiscretions by certain members of the clergy… 😒

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    • Duker

       /  13th April 2020

      Australia’s royal commission found the child abuse was endemic among all the christian denominations, just the catholics have historically had the largest numbers of religious/clergy and were more prone to move someone on or take no action

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      • Gezza

         /  13th April 2020

        I think it most often wasn’t so much ‘take no action’ as get the sinner to confess (duly forgiven by the Catho clergyman hearing the confession) express regret, & promise to sin more. But the buggers would.

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        • Gezza

           /  13th April 2020

          Urrgh ! That was a bad proof-read miss.

          * … express regret, & promise to sin NO more” I meant to say.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  13th April 2020

            I liked it better the first way.

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            • Duker

               /  13th April 2020

              Brother Gezza had a fruedian slip

              I wasn’t connected to any one with knowledge of abuse from Catholics but 2nd removed from someone with knowledge of Center point , it was hardly a secret but nothing was done. There was also a private boys school and a new part time teacher did take action when he became aware.

        • You got it backwards brother. They do not want their pedo priests to repent and confess their “sins”. Oh and since when did raping kids just become a “sin”. It is a crime that these losers love to hide their BS sin theology behind.

          But no, they do not want these perverts to repent of their sins, they want us, their victims and suvivors to “repent of our sins”. My gang-rape by three of them is typical of all victims. While they were raping me, even on the altar? I was the one who was guilty of “sin”. While the first one raped me in the bedroom? He insisted I had broken 2 of the commandments. I had to pay for my sins. He had to “suck the demon out of me”, then he had me suck his “sacred sacrament” out of him. Then he raped me anally on the bed while demanding I say a penance of Our Fathers and Hail Mary’s. They did the same to me when they gang raped me on the altar, making me say Our Fathers and Hail Mary’s.

          This is very typical. I could post links to stories of like the boys who went through the RCC Industrial Schools in Ireland who state the same thing. Same with many victims. YOU were the sinner. YOU were the evil one. Most victims and suvivors will tell you how they were forced to say pennance prayers, etc either during their rapes, or right after as punishment for “using the devil to seduce” the priest, or brother, or nun or sister.

          It was the same thing they did to those kids they enslaved in their Magdalene and Good Shepherd Laundries. Forcing them to say penance prayers etc while they were forced to work 18 hours a day with very little food, medical care, or any protection from the deadly chemicals they were forced to work in as “punishment for their sins”.

          Let’s take this scumbag current Head Pedo Pimp Popo Franko. He slammed the deaf/mute victims being raped at the Antonio Provolo Institute in Mendoza Argentina. Now, two of the five pedo priests busted at this one? Were the same two busted for raping deaf/mute children at the Antonio Provolo Institute in Verona Italy. Franko received two letters and a video from the victims BEGGING him to put a stop to what was happening to them. He instead? Sent them an xmas video saying how the Church loves and protects these deaf/mute children and merry xmas.

          When one 5 yr old girl was so brutally raped the nun helping these scum had to put a diaper on her so she could go to class, the parents found out and reported it. That is when the whole thing hit the fan. And they accused one of Popo Frankos favorite Archbishops of covering it all up. What did Franko do? He blamed the victims and called them liars and children of demons. Even when that same Archbishop was convicted of covering up these crimes? Franko NEVER apologized to the victims or their parents for calling them liars or children of demons.

          No, it is not them who consider what they do to us as sins, let alone crimes. But they consider us speaking out about what they did to us? And demanding justice and just recompense? We are the evil ones, the sinners, the demons, out to destroy their cult.

          And this is why? Things will NEVER change with these pedophile pimps and pedophiles,

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      • Read the Ireland Commission. Read the various US Grand Jury reports. Go to Bishops Accountability’s Abuse Tracker blog and you will learn? This cult is still raping kids and still protecting their pedophiles. Look up the Antonio Provolo Institute cases.

        We even have reported on over 3,000 suicides, some even cluster suicides, like the 30 boys of St Alpius who committed suicide, or other cases like this. But this cult does not care if these victims blow their brains out or hang themselves, because to them? A dead victim tells no tales.

        We expose them each and every day. Not historical cases, though we still report on those, Now? We are showing how they have moved these pedophiles into Central and South America, India, Japan, Africa. And? the largest concentration of pedophiles per capita? Are at the Vatican and surrounding area of it.

        We can show where Popes were promoters of pedophilia. You can actually see how far back this goes by the writings of “Saints” Peter Damian (Book of Gomorrah 1068) and Pope Pius V (Constitutionn Horrendum Illud Seclus 1568).

        And while you are correct, this is going on in all the Denominations. Breaking news now shows the Southern Baptist Conference and American Baptist Conference as well as their related Independent Baptist, Bob Jones University, and others like his? Are just as bad if not worse than the Catholics, but they been doing it for a shorter period than the Catholics.

        I’ve been reporting on this since 2007. I can honestly say, with all the blogs I do, with the Facebook groups I do? Exposing all this? I can say I have reported on over 100,000 Christian priests and pastors busted for raping kids. 50% RCC and 50% the rest of the denominations. And honestly? We are just hitting the tip of the iceberg.

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  6. Duker

     /  13th April 2020

    State hydro , Sate oil , state gas pipelines, state rail, State Post , State Housing Bank, state community banking, State hospitals, state lottery, state broadcasting, state electricity lines, state forests
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_enterprises_of_Norway

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  13th April 2020

      Which of these don’t we have?

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      • Duker

         /  13th April 2020

        More socialist than some think…the US has much much more than people think too…agriculture is practically socialist , crop insurance paid by government plus disater coverage in a lot of states either federal or state

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      • Blazer

         /  14th April 2020

        Are you making the argument that NZ is Socialist or Capitalist?…Used to be the ‘quarter acre,pavlova paradise’

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  7. PartisanZ

     /  13th April 2020

    I dunno why anyone follows this guy …

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    • Gezza

       /  13th April 2020

      Well he’s got a Twitter account, for one thing. And he’s the titular head of The One True Church for another. And they are Catholics & they think he speaks with authority from Jesus, thru a line of succession from St Peter the Apostle.

      If you are a staunch Christian of the Catholic sect, he’s the head honcho.

      If you’re not, like I’m not any more, you wonder why he’s such a big deal. For a lot of modern day Catholics in countries like NZ, I don’t think they have reverence for popes that the layers of the Catholic clergy do.

      Popes are tainted nowadays by the stain of priest abusers & their hiding & covering up for them that’s all been publicly exposed. Francis is supposed to be a reformer but I think he’s just playing catch up with his flock.

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      • This Head Pedo Pimp Popo Franko KNEW there were deaf/mute children being raped by pedo priests at the Antonio Provolo Institute in Mendoza Argentina. Two of these pedo priests were transferred to this Institute after they got busted raping deaf/mute children at the Antonio Provolo Institute in Verona Italy. Then this disgusting scum attacked the victims and parents as liars and children of demons.

        We continue to report NEW cases almost each and every day. The RCC pedophiles are now fully in Central and South America countries, India, South American countries and Japan even. It is fully rampant in Italy. There are actually more proven pedophiles per square mile and per capita than any other place in the world at the Vatican.

        Hundreds of thousands of victims. Thousands have committed suicide. The freaking church and their pew polishers do not give a damn. A dead victim tells no tales.

        But hey, if we put to death dogs that bite children? Then how come we are not putting to death scum who rape, torture, brutalize and murder children? Especially the Christian ones? If they feel they have a right to call for the brutal death penalty punishment for atheists and lgbts? Then I got a right to demand a brutal death penalty punishment for all those over one hundred thousand Christian priests and pastors I have reported on in my blogs busted for raping kids.

        If we start putting these scum who rape kids to death? Maybe they would get the hint???

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  8. Popo Franko deserves to be in a prison cell awaiting execution. Just look up the Antonio Provolo Institute cases and you will see why. Anyone who allows deaf/mute children as young as 5 to be brutally raped? Deserves nothing less than death.

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  9. Zedd

     /  14th April 2020

    perhaps many who claim to be ‘catholics’ ignore all the news about sexual abuse by priests OR have NOT read the book of Daniel; the rise of the ‘Little horn, Antichrist power’.. which was clearly stated, by the protestants (Luther etc.) to be ‘the Pope of Rome/Papal system’.
    >enuf sed :/

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