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  1. Gezza

     /  17th April 2020

    Why not ease into Friday with a gravelly-voiced crooner. Let’s hear it for The Spaniel.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  17th April 2020

      Noice G. Heres taking you from drug induced haze to the clear air of the high sierra. Boz is one of the most underrated talents imho. Looks like we’ve beaten lurch this morning. He must have a couple of pearlers heaving against the drafting gate

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        Very mellow, c. Cruisy. Haven’t heard that one before. 👍🏼

        Luv’d the Lido Shuffle, probly his most well-known one.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  17th April 2020

      I hope Duncan Garner hasn’t affected our relationship with Communist China,the block head is demanding an apology from the Chinese ambassador and shes the face of China in NZ ,loss of face and all that…there goes our trade with them,single handed Duncan Garner could have cost us billions.

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    • I have an LP of Joe Cocker, thanks to an opshop,

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  2. Gezza

     /  17th April 2020

    Research from the past decade shows party identity is a major factor in how Americans assign blame for government failures. In the current partisan environment, many voters will simply blame the other side.

    the election will probably be decided at the margins, by people without strong party identities who usually pay little attention to politics.

    Trump’s own failures in the pandemic are well documented. His overconfidence, disdain for expert opinion and obsession with stopping bad news from hitting the stock market all made the crisis worse.

    Perhaps most damaging, Trump and his allies claimed early on the media and Democrats were deliberately exaggerating the virus to cripple the economy and his re-election chances. This politicisation of the virus had far-reaching effects on the behaviour of both citizens and elected officials.

    Nearly every western democracy has had problems with people who haven’t taken Covid-19 seriously. But only in the United States did this become a principled political stance.

    Then it became a ‘foreign problem’.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/121069062/trump-blames-everyone-but-himself-for-the-coronavirus-crisis

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  17th April 2020

      Nearly every western democracy has had problems with people who haven’t taken Covid-19 seriously.

      Why?

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        After you, Sir Alan

        Sir Gerald

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  17th April 2020

          Trump thinks it was WHO and China. So does UK I think.

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          • China and WHO are culpable to some extent. It was difficult for China who were dealing with what was then an unknown level of threat, but the seem to have made things worse by not being open about what they were learning.

            But as has often been said viruses don’t recognise borders, and every country has had to deal with it as it spread. What China did means little now for how each country manages it. The US has got it, they have to deal with it.

            Continuing to blame China and WHO is a bit like a 30 year old blaming their parents for all their adult life mistakes.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th April 2020

              No, it’s more like blaming the power company for not maintaining the dam that burst and wiped you out.

            • “Continuing to blame China and WHO is a bit like a 30 year old blaming their parents for all their adult life mistakes”

              Correct.

              It’s just dangerous scapegoating by people who can’t admit they’re wrong about Trump.

              Trump’s main complaint about the WHO is that it is too close to China, and there’s a bit of truth to that. But Trump himself fawned over China’s response to the pandemic. “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump tweeted on Jan. 24. “I want to thank President Xi.”

              If the WHO was the problem then every other country would have the same coronavirus problem America has. They don’t because their leaders took the steps they needed to take to get testing in place, to get the treatments in place, to get the medical facilities built up, to get the equipment to the doctors and nurses.

              Other countries have managed to stop their spike in cases while America hasn’t. There’s your first clue to who failed miserably.

    • David

       /  17th April 2020

      Perhaps they havent heard from from the UK who are furious with China and want a reset of the relationship. No one is happy with China nor the hopeless WHO but its this knee jerk reaction that if Trump criticizes something then everyone else has to defend it.
      There is a lot of legitimate things to have a crack at every countries leader, Trump especially, but its getting absurd when China is defended, a promising drug is attacked, the WHO is given a pass.

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        Trump gets attacked for being an egotistical narcissistic twit who blames & threatens others for his own screw ups – often, imo as a distraction. His history is littered with examples of this pattern of behaviour, even prior to getting elected POTUS.

        Why worry about it? It’s all getting him attention; exactly what he wants.

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      • Crap, David.

        No-one is defending China. No-one is giving WHO a pass. And the so-called “promising drug” shows no promise at all. In fact, a Brazilian study into chloroquine as therapy for COVID-19 patients has been halted early after more than 25% of the subjects died.

        https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.07.20056424v1

        The blinkered defence of trump by the trumpagandists is the absurd situation.

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        • David

           /  17th April 2020

          Well guess what Jacinda has just approved a trial of hydroxychloroquine because thankfully she is bright enough to see past the TDS and is willing to see if there is some promise for it.

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          • She wasn’t bright enough to work out that the virus was being brought in by people returning from abroad and save the economy by testing or isolating them.

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          • Just STOP with your deliberate stupidity, David.

            Scientific trials are not trump derangement syndrome.

            The fact that Brazilian scientists stopped a trial of chloroquine because more than 25% of the subjects died is not trump derangement syndrome

            The fact that HCQ and CQ have really serious side effects is not trump derangement syndrome

            IT’S FUCKING SCIENCE. And the science says there’s no evidence the drugs are reliable.

            Now just stop with the deliberate “see past the TDS” stupidity. You’re better than this.

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  3. David

     /  17th April 2020

    Some words of support from a former leader to the current one:

    “Key has praised Ardern’s communication skills during the crisis, and says although leading the country in difficult times can be a tough task, it also has its benefits.

    “I don’t overly miss it when I’m not there. Sometimes I look at Jacinda on TV and think ‘oh yeah I’ve kind of done that or seen this’, and when I’m out for a walk a lot of people quite often say ‘oh I bet you’re pleased you’re not there now’. I don’t wish I was there, but I don’t think if I was there I’d be worried about it.

    “Obviously it’s a big task, it’s a big job, and bits of the things you do can be quite thankless.”

    Its an interesting piece;
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12325406

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    • Blazer

       /  17th April 2020

      His observations about the economy I agree with.

      His reign was characterised by kicking the can down the road on the big issues and pandering to wealthy vested interests.

      His legacy is huge borrowing and accelerating the rate of NZ’ers becoming tenants in their own country.

      I was hoping he would nick off to Hawaii to live,given as far as America goes he ‘loves everything about the place’.

      I guess after seeing the massive increase in wealth he has made in his years in NZ politics he has decided he has a role as an elder statesman.
      Quite telling the roles he took on and the degree of application they require ,given he had …’nothing left in the tank’.

      A consummate opportunist ,political history will not judge him…well.

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        One of your commonest complaints as I recall was that he promised to solve the housing problem & did nothing. Curiously, our current PM (& her predecessor Labour failed leaders) did the same thing but had no flippin plan. After all those years in opposition promising to sort it, they put a complete no hoper, whose principal talent is looking blank, in charge of thevportfolio.

        Jacs has beem lucky to have been gifted both that bastard Tarrant, & now Covid-19, to enable her to make some footnotes in the pokitical history books. They both arrived atbtimes when Labour’s overall performance was looking pretty sparse, & the National Party leader had failed to spark with public, being also apparently cursed with a proclivity for foot-shooting.

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        • Blazer

           /  17th April 2020

          This Govt took steps to arrest the ramping up of property prices.
          Extended the brightline to 5 years,stopped foreigners buying,increased state house spending to name a few.
          After nearly 3 years ,it is clearly still a problem…the reason….as has been pointed out..property is a safe haven and has investment advantages that other asset classes do not enjoy.Add to that being spruiked by one trick pony Banks with low interest rates,and by the FIRE economy at large.
          Saying that Ardern has been gifted tragic events resulting in deaths to NZ’ers is an absolute indictment on your moral character.
          She has dealt with these events as well as we could have hoped.
          Times like these require real leadership and she has stepped up.
          Your analysis of ‘sparse’ is not born out by the performance of the all important economy or objective critique by neutral commentators.

          The fact that Davids wife has had to delay her hair appointment,and Kitty had to wheel her trolley to the supermarket are not really important in the …big picture.

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          • Neither of us has claimed that it was, I don’t use a trolley and if I did, it would be easy to wheel it TO the shop; it would be empty. 0/10 for accuracy.

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            • Blazer

               /  17th April 2020

              I suspect you are one of these people you see wheeling their groceries home,along the road in a supermarket trolley.

              Also ,what a handful of recalcitrant,selfish Actoids think about Arderns handling of this crisis is quite irrelevant.

            • You suspect wrongly; I am am not a thief. Please refrain from calling me one with no evidence but your diseased imagination.

              Everyone is entitled to express an opinion about the lockdown which is likely to damage the economy, has resulted in a rise in suicides and domestic violence, not to mention the cost of about $1,000,000,000 a week in a ‘crisis’ which has fewer than 600 people with the virus, even if these happen not to coincide with yours.

            • If your suspect that I am a thief who steals supermarket trolleys, please explain how you believe that I take them on the bus (unnoticed by the driver) which would require a lot of physical strength,

              I then need to manhandle them off, push them 2km mainly uphill, up a very steep drive or up steps to the house, again requiring great physical strength. Then there’s the problem of storing them.

              All this to save a $6 or $7 taxi fare or a delivery charge…I don’t think so.

          • Gezza

             /  17th April 2020

            Tinkering around the edges.

            Saying that Ardern has been gifted tragic events resulting in deaths to NZ’ers is an absolute indictment on your moral character.

            No it’s not & you know it. It’s a simple cool-headed clear eyed analysis. If anyone’s trying to profit off it, you just did ! Pathetic. I expected better of you.

            She has dealt with these events as well as we could have hoped.

            I think she has dealt with them better than John Key would have done. Possibly on a par with Bill English, we can never know.

            Times like these require real leadership and she has stepped up.

            She is taking the limelight too.

            Your analysis of ‘sparse’ is not born out by the performance of the all important economy or objective critique by neutral commentators.

            They got given a safe ship & until now Grant has been smart enuf to manage it well, knowing where not to tread, & Jacinda has taken his advice, knowing little about economic matters.

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            • She may be in for a rude awakening if she takes it for granted that people will tolerate even the slightly tweaked lockdown for much longer, according to what I have read online.

              The number of people seen walking is smaller; there’s a limit to how often anyone wants to walk around the block.

              If she keeps us all under house arrest when the numbers are so small, there is likely to be a reaction. I’d hate to think that the numbers which include those who have recovered and make the total of current cases appear to be much larger than it is were being reported thus on purpose to justify the extreme control of the entire population.

            • Blazer

               /  17th April 2020

              Be interested to know how the P.M can avoid the ‘limelight’ especially in these circumstances.
              ‘ It’s a simple cool-headed clear eyed analysis. ‘-strongly disagree,not sure what if any, original points you were trying to score.
              Hopeless.

            • Gezza

               /  17th April 2020

              ‘It’s a simple cool-headed clear eyed analysis’ – strongly disagree

              Of course you do. You would.

              not sure what if any, original points you were trying to score.

              None. That’s your lenses, not mine. I’m not interested in scoring points.

              Hopeless.

              You should sign yourself off like that more often.

            • Blazer

               /  17th April 2020

              [Deleted – don’t go there again – PG]

            • Gezza

               /  18th April 2020

              Anybody talking with you, Blazer, like I am at the moment, is best to try and get something good at neutralising … acid !

              Getting a lecture from YOU [on the way I expressed that Jacinda has been gifted (by fate) two opportunities to shine (& for the most part, deservedly so) by two major events occurring at times when aspects of her government & leadership were currently not measuring up to some very big promises made] a poster whose acerbic & strident criticisms routinely – nearly daily – heap often quite vile calumnies on politicians & posters whose political views you don’t like … is … rich !

              Get stuffed. No offence.

            • Blazer

               /  18th April 2020

              You may not like hypocrisy and double standards being exposed ,and I can accept that.
              Some examples of these ‘vile calumnies’ could bolster your argument,which is very weak imo.
              When you resort to calling me an ‘arsehole’ and telling me to ‘get stuffed’ with the rider ‘no offence’ ,I find it hard to regard your commentary as being sincere or addressing the message,not the messenger.

              p.s in your earlier rebuttal of ‘points’ you omitted to explain how the P.M could avoid the supposed crime of being in the ‘limelight’ in the present situation.

            • Gezza

               /  18th April 2020

              Lol. Priceless.
              Move on, little man. We’re done here.

            • Blazer

               /  18th April 2020

              yes you are ‘done’…like a dinner…big man?Bol.

            • Gezza

               /  18th April 2020

              Sorry for making you cry.

  4. Barbara McKenzie

     /  17th April 2020

    When Dr Sucharit Bhakti spoke in detail of the effect on mobile elderly people being locked up in their homes, unable to get out, unable to see people, he was condemned as caring about money instead of lives. When I talk about jobs, the collapse of healthcare, democracy, I get called a psychopath. So let’s talk about money.

    The money squandered on saving us from the common cold, optimistically estimated at $1 billion a day, has been:

    – More than our entire health budget for the year
    – 42 times what we spend on cancer every year
    – Our entire education budget for 1.5 years.
    – Roughly 10,500km worth of median barriers (Auckland to Wellington 16 times)
    – 10 times the entire NZ Police’s budget (maintenance of law and order)
    – 525 times what was allocated as a boost by the government to the Suicide Prevention (remembering suicide claimed 668 lives)
    – Almost 15 brand new, modern hospitals

    And for what? There is absolutely no evidence that this year’s seasonal virus is more dangerous than in any other year.

    These are the people who are dying in New Zealand from the “new lethal virus”:

    Woman, aged 70’s with an underlying health condition.
    Female, aged 90’s with an underlying health condition.
    Male, aged 80’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 70’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 80’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 90’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 80’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 90’s with an underlying health condition(s).
    Male, aged 70’s with an underlying health condition(s)

    All these figures are via Alex Davis, who says:

    ‘For a Prime Minister who claimed she entered politics “for one reason: child poverty” the actions of her government are curiously opposed to that goal: the lock down is likely to lead the largest destruction of value (and consequently the largest increase in poverty) New Zealand has ever experienced, with all the associated negative social and health outcomes.’

    https://theemperorsrobes.blogspot.com/2020/04/21-billion-we-have-lost-all-sense.html?fbclid=IwAR1KaJL4hm67vE1Kb-l4I_LwXHkOXjFok-F-3_1HC-qy62HmqfjLbxvpd4c

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    • Blazer

       /  17th April 2020

      If it was confined to NZ you may have had some semblance of a case,as its not we can file you under…monster ,raving loony.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  17th April 2020

      I don’t agree it’s no more dangerous than flu. It clearly is even just measured by the number of medics it has killed.

      But I do agree the containment measures have been immensely destructive and probably excessive. Much of that due to very misleading information promulgated by experts and authorities at the start which let the cats out of the bag.

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      • ‘Just the flu’ has been a common claim. And here it’s ‘just a cold’:

        Protesters from a rally outside Capitol Square in Richmond, Virginia, US on 16 April 2020. credit: AFP

        More: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-protests/as-economic-pain-deepens-protesters-pushing-back-on-u-s-stay-at-home-orders-idUSKBN21Y34A

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      • Duker

         /  17th April 2020

        Even the ER doctors know a lot more now than they did a month ago….one of the strange things is patients with dangerously low oxygen levels are still alert and communicating right up to the point they get sedated for the tube down their throat. Normally at that level of blood oxygen a patient is incoherent. Even that approach isnt preferable as putting a simpler face pressure mask on earlier

        What Wilco wants to use to know actions to take isnt a model its a verified simulator that has pretty much all the numbers pre worked out ….you know those desktop pilot things that can give a realistic impression of flying a plane..

        You should stick to PC Pilot as we can broadly say everything about this virus is new and changes practically everything we thought we knew

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      • Pink David

         /  17th April 2020

        “I don’t agree it’s no more dangerous than flu. It clearly is even just measured by the number of medics it has killed.”

        The evidence is growing that it is less dangerous than the flu.

        Last week, 7 children died in the US from the flu. No one noticed. Not one child has died from Covid-19

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  17th April 2020

          Hard to know. Did the kids die of the flu or with the flu? How many medics treating them died?

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          • Pink David

             /  17th April 2020

            “Did the kids die of the flu or with the flu”

            Technically, no one dies ‘of’ flu, it’s the complications resulting from flu.

            The standard used for Covid-19 is ‘with’ No one is measuring ‘from’.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th April 2020

              It seems pretty clear that this virus is worse than the flu with rest homes getting wiped out and medics dying in.numbers despite protective efforts. I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim otherwise. That said it’s still important to identify what is worse and what isn’t and balance actions accordingly.

            • Pink David

               /  17th April 2020

              “It seems pretty clear that this virus is worse than the flu with rest homes getting wiped out and medics dying in.numbers despite protective efforts”

              The data does not support this. I’ve already posted the research from previous Italian flu outbreaks that significantly exceed Covid-19. Again, the measure being used is ;died with Covid-19′, highly misleading.

              No context is being provided.

            • Pink David

               /  17th April 2020

              The numbers being published are not what you think they are;

              “Yesterday, Dr. Deborah Birx finally let the secret out during the daily press conference in response to a reporter’s question. “I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx, who along with Dr. Anthony Fauci has become the face of this push for a national lockdown.

              “There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

              “The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” concluded Birx.”

            • Pink D, your source which you didn’t post – Conservative Review – is almost as biased as Breitbart. i.e. it’s moderately trumpagandist

              “These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes.”

              https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/conservative-review/

    • Pink David

       /  17th April 2020

      ‘For a Prime Minister who claimed she entered politics “for one reason: child poverty” the actions of her government are curiously opposed to that goal: the lock down is likely to lead the largest destruction of value (and consequently the largest increase in poverty) New Zealand has ever experienced, with all the associated negative social and health outcomes.’

      Exactly.

      Evil people do not wake up in the morning and think to themselves ‘how do I do more evil today’, they wake up and think to themselves; ‘How do I make the world a better place’.

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      • Blazer

         /  17th April 2020

        ‘ lead the largest destruction of value’….righties know cost…have N.FI. of….’value’!

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        • Pink David

           /  17th April 2020

          Destroying an economy is destroying life. Your denial of this does not change it being a fact.

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          • Blazer

             /  17th April 2020

            dying of C19 means you’re ..dead…that’s a ..FACT.

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          • Duker

             /  17th April 2020

            The virus would destroy 1000s of lives , as without control measures it keeps going until herd immunity is reached at say 50-60% of population infected.
            We are probably at 0.5% now .
            Any farmer knows to keep the seedcorn , on that principle a lot of business can be sacrificed to save 1000s of lives.
            The whole hospitality ‘industry’ wont be missed, a great burden anyway with bars and cafes. fast food will survive but in a reduced form
            Used cars will be decimated, not an uncommon occurrence.
            We have to keep housing going and this time around the workers cant just up sticks and go to Australia, luckily the government had ist own ( slow moving) program under way.
            The migrant workers rort will be finished off, in theory they pack their bags and head home leaving the jobs for NZers … well see how much that happens or special sectors want favours , eg dairy farmers liked having ‘modern serfs’ who are bound to their cow sheds

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          • Griff.

             /  17th April 2020

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  17th April 2020

    Yawn,Barbara, maybe you should join with these [deleted] or sacrifice your parents if still alive to death, hell its only a common cold….another righty worshipping at the altar of money
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shutdown-protest-zombie-movie_n_5e97c9f6c5b6ead14007841e

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  6. Zedd

     /  17th April 2020

    just got back from PknSv.. Sth D
    NO Queue at door & taxi arrived in about 10 mins. to get home 🙂
    >looks like the PANIC buying is over.. or perhaps the rain kept them away ?

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    • Good to hear. Our household shopper is headed there soon.

      I was in the CBD yesterday and both New World and Countdown had no queues and maybe 2/3 full car parks, so it looks like people are getting used to doing their shoping under lockdown.

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      • Not really; the limits still apply so they will still be making far more trips than they used to, The queues in two Countdowns that I’ve heard of take about an hour. God bless Pak & Save who manage these things so much better.

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    • From across the ditch: Coronavirus hoarder tries to return $10,000 worth of goods to Adelaide supermarket

      An Adelaide shopper has attempted to return thousands of dollars’ worth of supplies to a local supermarket after stockpiling them at the start of the coronavirus panic buying outbreak, a retailer says.

      Drakes Supermarkets director John-Paul Drake said the man called the supermarket to try to get a refund on 132 packs of toilet rolls and 150 one-litre bottles of hand sanitiser.

      He said the shopper had bought the goods, worth around $10,000, with the help of a “team” of stockpilers when panic buying surged about four weeks ago.

      Mr Drake described that kind of stockpiling as “absolutely disgraceful”, and said it was the reason that supermarkets had had to “band together” to introduce purchasing limits on products like toilet paper and hand sanitiser during the coronavirus crisis.

      “The rest of my team [is] over this sort of behaviour and having to police people taking more than they need — that’s a tough thing to deal with,” he said.

      There could be quite a few people with enough toilet paper and hand wash to last them for quite a while.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  17th April 2020

        So nice when greed mixes with stupidity.

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      • Zedd

         /  17th April 2020

        yes.. there were rumors that some folks were stockpiling, because they heard, that the shops were about to empty & perhaps ideas of ‘profiteering’ from on-selling came to mind or could become reality.. NOT happening, here in Sth D.. this month, at least
        >How bloody selfish !

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        • Duker

           /  17th April 2020

          It might have succeeded that was until Ebay stopped the selling of supplies like that… but the capitalist system has lots of systems where thats a feature not a bug.
          Shares , sections for houses, tickets for concerts and so on

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        • People were price gouging on Trade Me until TM finally stopped making excuses and stopped it.

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    • btw: HOT water bottles & fleecy socks, on sale at PnSv Sth D 🙂

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        Mustafa Shufti for hot water bottles next time I’m in NW. Mine’s done it’s dash. They don’t make ’em like they used to. Nothing gets me off to sleep on a cold night as fast as a hotty.

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        • I will refrain from making the obvious comment.

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          • Blazer

             /  17th April 2020

            well you don’t need one…you sleep with a hairy,maltese male everynight…

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            • Trust you to put a grubby construction on even the most innocent thing; you really are dirty-minded. It’s disgusting and I wonder how you can live with yourself. It’s Maltese, anyway, and they are fluffy, not hairy. You must have a mind like a sewage pond.

            • Blazer

               /  17th April 2020

              too funny…what ‘obvious comment’ did you refrain from making..?

            • If you have to ask the question, you wouldn’t understand the answer. It wasn’t indecent, so you wouldn’t appreciate it anyway.

  7. Zedd

     /  17th April 2020

    I see ‘Breeze’ TV has started on Freeview Ch14
    more my style ; Radio with Pix 🙂

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    • Gezza

       /  17th April 2020

      Yes. I discovered that to my surprise a few nights ago.

      Also Channel 11 – The Edge – is new & seems to play all easy listening music vids too – good stuff on it.

      Ch 11 is my current default channel.

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      • Blazer

         /  17th April 2020

        surely not!wot about Al Jaz?

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        • Gezza

           /  17th April 2020

          Wall-to-wall Covid-19.

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        • Zedd

           /  17th April 2020

          I luv Al-Jz, but it looks increasingly like MrT has bought shares in it ?
          >recently: every hour his ugly mug is on their for about 20-30 mins. 😦

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  17th April 2020

    I’m listening to Sean Plunkett, they are screaming at each other about covid-19 testing(which i think are like dog pooyou pick it up and move on),but you get a swab on Monday but on Tuesday you get infected why visiting New World,a covid-19 test is like a WOF,its the state of your car/body at that time of the test.

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  9. Gezza

     /  17th April 2020

    Just got a call from a male nurse at ma’s rest home. No visiting has been allowed since level 4 began. She has terminal cancer & chemo was stopped on 3 Jan as it had given her another year, but was no longer effective. She has deteriorated quickly.

    I am allowed one visit, for 10 minutes, tonite – so I can spend time & talk with her (she hasn’t been up to our daily phone calls this week). She is expected to pass away over the weekend. I hope, for her sake, that her ordeal is over.

    Few people are lucky enough to get two mums. I have been.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  17th April 2020

      If she’s capable give her some love from us, G.

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    • Blazer

       /  17th April 2020

      you do share something in common with the Greens leader you mock…then.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  17th April 2020

      Sorry to hear this G. Watching a loved one slip away at this time must be doubly hard

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      • Gezza

         /  17th April 2020

        Thanks c. No, I’m ok with it. We’ve had over a year to prepare for it & all she’s doing is suffering now. She wants to go.

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        • I didn’t know my own mother-in-law well, but she was very sweet. You are lucky to have had so much time with yours.

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  17th April 2020

    So you poor bar*tards from the right have discovered that PM Jacinda Ardern is our PM,but its a bit of a bugger isnt it, that two smooth talking MAORIS on the National side are no threat to her continued PM ship,National leadership BRO but wearing suits without the tats, BUT STILL THE BRO

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  11. duperez

     /  17th April 2020

    A case in the paper and being the law abiding type I wouldn’t break a suppression order. It caught my eye though and it hinted at the way Dermot Nottingham operates.

    ‘All for her political gain’ – Jacinda Ardern sued over lockdown.’

    “This is really the Ardern show,” the man said. “Ardern has cried wolf and been found out,” he said.

    The other applicant alleged more people would now die from other illnesses, like cancer, because they will not be able to get diagnosed due to hospital resources being focused on the fight against Covid-19.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12325702
    🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜

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  12. lurcher1948

     /  17th April 2020

    Wow i think Trump is like Caligula,a make believe living god and spray painted orange on a pedestal, a righties wet dream,AND been as thick as a sack full of hammers helps the right worship

    all believe trump,BUT keep your hand on your money

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  13. Conspiratoor

     /  17th April 2020

    10 flights arriving today, 5 from china

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  14. The madness of King Donald:

    March 27:
    Trump says “I’ve always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
    https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idOVC5G4I5B

    April 16:
    Trump says he’s angry he wasn’t told there was a pandemic: “And I was angry, because this should have been told to us. It should have been told to us early. It should have been told to us a lot sooner. People knew it was happening and people didn’t want to talk about it.”

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