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  1. Gezza

     /  24th April 2020
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    • lurcher1948

       /  24th April 2020

      Righties,if they are not going of like sky rockets against Greta and climate change,they are banging on about MAORI/police checkpoints protecting their communities.When things are safe they will be gone.those bitching about the checkpoints shouldn’t be on the road,they are breaking the law

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      • Gezza

         /  24th April 2020

        How do you know they are breaking the law?

        How can those on checkpoints (up to 80 reported yesterday in one rohe) not be breaching the lockdown bubble requirements?

        Have a think, neighbour. Get back to me.

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        • Duker

           /  24th April 2020

          getting your info from Bridges office ‘on those 80’ are you
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12322929
          Thames Coromandel District mayor Sandra Goudie said she had been asking for roadblocks or checkpoints for several weeks and was pleased it was now being seriously considered.

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          • Gezza

             /  24th April 2020

            getting your info from Bridges office ‘on those 80’ are you

            Strange question. No, not unless Wiremu Edwards works there. Why would you think that?

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            • Duker

               /  24th April 2020

              Just that Bridges and his electorate office were the source of fake claim about some git couldnt get his milk from a shop because of ‘dem marries’

  2. Corky

     /  24th April 2020

    Ryan Bridges interviews the Police Commissioner about road blocks. One things for sure, this chap isn’t a copper… he’s become a career politician. He seems not to understand what he should be doing law wise. He seems not to understand the constitutional issues surrounding these road blocks. That said… has he been put on a short lead by his political masters?

    So… Maori – special treatment- hands off.

    @ 1.40

    https://www.magic.co.nz/home/shows/talk/magic-drive.html

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      • Corky

         /  24th April 2020

        I may have heard one of these people interviewed. Those questions were put to him.

        He said: ‘It’s our country. The government can set the rules. InvestmentS must be in infrastructure. Profits stay in NZ etc.’ In other words revision of Michael Cullen original scheme for foreign investment (?).

        I don’t have a problem with that because it would weed out the wellfy looking for traditional investments.

        Whether it’s a good idea long term; I don’t know. One things for sure, for us to have a long term future, we will need to do something quick smart in the short term.

        What are your ideas, Blazer?

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        • Corky

           /  24th April 2020

          Economists do the numbers on the government giving every person a cash payment to boost the economy. Socialists will love option three…it makes sure the wellfy are punished for being wellfy.

          https://www.interest.co.nz/news/104686/jacinda-ardern-keeps-door-open-possibility-cash-payments-households-post-lockdown

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          • Duker

             /  24th April 2020

            Based on my research the ‘wellfry’ on this site are getting more than their share

            Must be hard for those relying on the turnover of Lotto , which is down and prizes are smaller

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            • Corky

               /  24th April 2020

              I don’t rely on the turnover of Lotto to fund my lifestyle. But it’s an important part by giving me a three to eight hundred dollar boost each week. So, yes, I am missing the money to a point.

            • Duker

               /  24th April 2020

              Lotto winnings here are tax free, unlike in the US of A.
              But its a low margin business and the take by the house is so big , the Lotto shop with a 10% commission is the only winner
              I had heard of professional gamblers in NSW where they would come to agreement with the pub and share that commission when they ran all there considerable bets through the pub terminal. But thats horse racing and not every horse is an equal winner
              You seem to be able to sniff out an opportunity has that ‘thought’ crossed your mind

            • Corky

               /  24th April 2020

              I tried horse racing once. I unfortunately ran into something called ‘beginners luck.’ I made a pile. I thought that was too good to be true. And it was..I lost the lot, and some, when my lucky streak ran out.

              Sounds like a good scheme. However, you would need contacts, and you’d probably have to mingle with some ‘hard people.’ When it comes to business, I’m mostly a loner. You can’t cheat, nark or let yourself down…unless you want to.

              I reckon though, many people will be thinking of schemes to make a quick buck as we enter a recession. It’s already happening online. So maybe if Lotto doesn’t recover, I may have to sniff something else out.

            • Blazer

               /  24th April 2020

              ‘important part by giving me a three to eight hundred dollar boost each week. ‘

              Ripley’s ….believe it or not!
              Time to walk the….dogge.

            • Corky

               /  24th April 2020

              Envy..the hallmark of a Leftie. Remember what I posted before? Whatever the draw..there will always be, at worst, 4 even, or 4 odd numbers. That is the start of my system.💚

            • Blazer

               /  24th April 2020

              bragging ..the hallmark of a rightie,until things go wrong…then…’no one saw it coming’.

              The odds/evens equation is unbeatable.

              Your system is a guaranteed loser.

            • Corky

               /  24th April 2020

              You don’t know what you are talking about. I wasn’t bragging…if you look
              at who started this thread… exaggeration..another Leftie trait. In fact I have admitted it has gone wrong.

              ”Whatever the draw..there will always be, at worst, 4 even, or 4 odd numbers. That is the start of my system.💚”

              Please read the last sentence of my comment. I will say no more. Apart from:

              ”The odds/evens equation is unbeatable.” Nice one. 😀

            • Blazer

               /  24th April 2020

              there is no way you can make 300-800 consistently.
              The odds that the lotto numbers will be 123456 are the same as for any other combination….2-4-6-8-10-12.

              You can try a heads or tails coin toss…it is quite conceivable to toss say 11 heads in a row.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  25th April 2020

              Blazer, let me help unlock the secret of improving your chances of a big win.

              Take a coin, any coin with the queens head on one side. If you throw this coin twice what are the odds of it landing head side up. That is correct 50%. Now take the same coin and throw it twice. What are the odds of one of these tossers landing head side up? They are higher. Now toss the coin 10 times. The odds of at least one head in 10 is so high you would comfortably put your grandmother on it.

              Using the infallible logic underlying the above, what is the one thing you have to do to ramp up your chances of a big lotto win?

            • Blazer

               /  25th April 2020

              @Con…putting aside the fact that there are 40 numbers…so 20 heads or 20 tails.

              Would you put your grandmothers life on heads turning up on toss 3 out of 10 ,after 2 tails had turned up?

              Note I said Grandmother not mother in law!

      • Pink David

         /  24th April 2020

        Is Shamubeel Eaqub the economist in NZ?

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  24th April 2020

    Simon Bridges gets it wrong again…whose advising him? FACEBOOK #2
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/121209651

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  4. Zedd

     /  24th April 2020

    PakNSave Sth Dn was OK this a.m. a short queue at the door (3-4) not too busy inside.. a few empty shelves, but basic (bread, milk, meat & veges etc) are still widely available
    >there was even a waiting taxi at the rank 🙂

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    • Was there flour there? We’ve lasted a month with what we had but are starting to get low.

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      • Zedd

         /  24th April 2020

        sorry dont buy it, but my friends cookies are getting smaller each time.. 😀

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    • Griff.

       /  24th April 2020

      Flour is ok here you just can not be too fussy it was high grade one day self rising the next and now it is just standard . Some random baking stuff has been hard to find like chocolate drops and garlic paste.
      The local shops have all run out of bacon and eggs this week.
      I am doing the shopping for two households. The girls just have change the menu to what I can get.
      Missing fresh fish. Will be glad to go out fishing once it is allowed . I never buy the rotten days old stuff they sell in shops.

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      • Gezza

         /  24th April 2020

        What do you catch up there, mainly ?

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        • Griff.

           /  24th April 2020

          I get plenty of Snapper and Gurnard along with the occasional Blue cod, King fish and Tarakihi.
          The by catch of Kaiwhai and Trevally that I can not return in good condition go to the dog.
          Up here you only need to go a mile or two from the beach and you can usually get a limit bag of seven good snapper in a few hours if you want.

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          • Gezza

             /  24th April 2020

            Yum. You’re making my mouth water. All three asterisks fish for me.

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  5. Gezza

     /  24th April 2020

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    • Oh dear…the ducks have moved in next door…we should have seen it coming, I suppose.

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      • Gezza

         /  24th April 2020

        No, it’s a big black backed gull, Kitty. I was inside when I heard all 6 or 7 pooks kicking up a helluva racket & went to the fence to check out what was alarming them. I have seen this reaction to gulls from them many times, even if one just flies overhead. They seem instinctively primed to react this way, especially when their pooklets are very small, & run immediately into cover at the adults’ alarm screech.

        If that gull came much closer to them (the two current pooklets can fly, so they are about 5 months old) they would all fky and run at it & attack it, as a group. I saw them seriously injure an old black backed gull in thecstream with their beaks & talons a couple of years back. It survived by playing dead, remaining motionless where it had been pushed into the foliage on the far parenga, for an hour or more.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  24th April 2020

    Over on the National Party shrills blog,Kiwiblog there’s a post on someone wanting the Health dept to investigate Dr David Clark for his indiscretions(yes i know hes the head of the dept), and i thought why they are at it they can investigate Dr Lance O’Sullivan kayaking on level 4, David Farrar knows that would be a very bad move so why stir up his ferals who post hate posts when National is as low as dog crap in the polls
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12326825
    Expect an angry post from the rightwingers wait waiting any moment now, MR Farrar waiting

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    • Duker

       /  24th April 2020

      A quick check shows Farrar is blind to the obvious
      “But it is an interesting point that the Police have effectively outsourced the decisions on prosecutions to the Ministry of Health. That is constitutionally dubious at the best of times”

      No it isnt . Breach of Quarantine is an offence under the Health Act, which is administered by the Ministry of health, police are merely the enforcement agents…and no the ministry doesn’t have a minister doing its operational stuff.
      Any more than the Minister of Police approves the police prosecutions

      Cant believe Farrar is so stupid..maybe not, hes a very nasty blogger at the best of times.

      S71(3)
      Every person who refuses or fails to comply with any requisition under this section, or who counsels, procures, aids, or incites any other person so to do, or who interferes with or obstructs the medical officer of health or any person acting under the authority of the medical officer of health in the exercise of any powers under this section, commits an offence and is liable on conviction before a District Court Judge to a fine not exceeding $1,000.

      The Police are only acting as enforcement agent of MOH , not the prosecution agents

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    • Corky

       /  24th April 2020

      Good reportage, Lurchy. Keep us informed. The more time you spend there, the less time you spend here. I think that’s a good thing.

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    • Blazer

       /  24th April 2020

      a non event…’The group is tiny’

      but a chance for the Reluctant Beneficiary to regurgitate his favourite ‘loony left’ line.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  24th April 2020

        Of course it’s tiny but, hey, it got a write-up in Stuff! And just a day after the Minister for Not Hunting went duck shooting.

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        • Duker

           /  24th April 2020

          The implosion of the ACT party after their time as one of Nationals poodles in 2008-2011 was worse .
          Of course Stuff will make the most of any Green ructions… coming up National Partys stirrings over its list placement …oh thats right DomPost doesnt air internal Nats party dirty linen, its former journos end up working for the party

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  7. Corky

     /  24th April 2020

    Time capsule with Corky.

    I was cleaning out one of my storage sheds when I came across a pile of Sunday Star newspapers. I made some coffee and pulled out my quinoa salad and picked up the top most paper. Dated May 16, 1993, the front page had the following headlines:

    1- Racial tension scares off Asians.
    2-Maori eyeing huge claim on rail land.
    3-Muslim refugees may return home.
    4- Winston charging $50 a head to hear him speak.
    5- The Lions are here.
    6- The royal woes of Windsor.
    7- First Somali women are here.

    My type of paper.

    So, nothing much has changed I thought. Then I started to wonder…has journalism changed over the years? To find that out it was obvious I should read the Muslim orientated stories.

    Muslim refugee story quotes ( abbreviated):

    Friction between refugees and former Yugoslavs. Ungrateful refugees. Social Welfare Department and other groups say they are the most difficult group(refugees) they have had to deal with. Two arrested. One threatened staff a Mangere Resettlement Hostel. He was detained for a mental health assessment. Funding for an interpreter has run out. Most cannot afford language lessons. Two alcoholics. One cannot afford false teeth and presently has rotten teeth. Breakdown between the UN and government departments.

    The Somali Women entered NZ under a tight media blackout. Mostly solo mums and woman in danger, it was culturally unacceptable for them to be photographed.

    These refugees were settled in Auckland, Hamilton and Christchurch.

    In my opinion such stories would be reported in a different manner nowadays. The bare facts of a story aren’t acceptable anymore unless emotionalism and subtle blame is attributed to outside parties in such cases.

    But… I said a few years back, that using overseas stats…there would be roughly 4000 Muslims in NZ who support terrorism to varying degrees.

    Guess where they came from?

    If a Muslim woman refuses to be photographed…do you think her daughter will be an integration success story?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  24th April 2020

      Maybe, Corky. There are always cultural tensions between immigrants and their children. Some will rebel and some will conform – as ever.

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    • Can you photograph that paper and put it on here ?

      The 4000 Muslims who approve of terrorism is based upon false logic.

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    • Corky

       /  24th April 2020

      ”Can you photograph that paper and put it on here ?”

      No. If you don’t believe me, that’s your problem.

      ”The 4000 Muslims who approve of terrorism is based upon false logic.”

      I will put my faith in Pew Research.. and not your biased ‘opinions.’

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      • Corky

         /  24th April 2020

        ps- you may have a chance if you check the Lion Tour dates for 1993. 🤣 Report back.

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        • Blazer

           /  24th April 2020

          whats the definition of a ‘terrorist’ Corky?

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          • Corky

             /  24th April 2020

            noun:

            A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  24th April 2020

    A challenge for some,i think PG a funny thing doing the rounds on FB..a good laugh

    [Talking about deliberately inflicting harm via a virus is not appropriate, even if meant in jest. I wouldn’t allow it if involving any of our politicians, and the same should apply internationally. PG]

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  9. duperez

     /  24th April 2020

    Trying to add a video for the first time. On the theme of ‘Another day, another dollar.’
    Hope it works.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  24th April 2020

      It’s a beautiful thing dupers. What is it supposed to convey. NZ circa 2035?

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  10. Alan Wilkinson

     /  24th April 2020

    Unfortunately, no.

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