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  1. David

     /  1st May 2020

    Looks like the wheels are coming off the Biden campaign after the Tara Reade allegations have finally gained some traction as it becomes completely untenable to ignore them. After the media and Dems behaviour over Kavanagh and believe all women advocates its come back to bite them squarely in the arse.
    Bidens team tried relying on being cleared by a NY Times investigation which the Times has pushed back hard on. The WaPo is calling for Biden to address the allegations and release his senatorial records so it looks like this thing is snowballing.
    The Dems were hoping endorsements this week from Nancy and Hilary would put a halt to this but even the very tame press are asking Nancy questions. Tara Reade told quite a few people at the time unlike Blazey Ford and people who work with Read remember her being disappeared, there is a recording of her Mother talking to Larry King which google have now removed about it and Biden has a history of being a bit handsy and making women uncomfortable.
    True or not he needs to address it but the problem is the guy can barely remember what happen last week let alone decades ago. Trump will be most upset if this torpedoes his nomination because he is probably the weakest candidate ever put forward.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      Has this had any news coverage here that you’ve seen?

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      • David

         /  1st May 2020

        There was a piece in the Herald sourced from the NY Times.
        Stuff is still pretty focused on bringing in some taxpayer cash so is pretty busy pumping out stories on Jacinda’s earings and how fabulous she is to bother themselves with a non Trump hating story.

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      • David

         /  1st May 2020

        This one is an absolute doozy and I imagine even Jacinda was reaching for her barf bag.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/121350448/coronavirus-the-importance-of-jacinda-ardern-sharing-the-spotlight-during-covid19-pandemic

        Not sure how this journalist, Brittney Deguara, will ever hope to be taken seriously in a serious profession ever. Lets hope there is an opening in the Womens Weekly for her when she grows up.

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        • Duker

           /  1st May 2020

          And pray tell how a previous PM ‘planking’ was just as newsworthy ? And thats not even up there on Keys ‘weirdest moments’

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          • David

             /  1st May 2020

            It wasnt, but it was done to ridicule him and its nothing near the same thing.
            If the journalist had written 350 words on how Key,s planking made him a new style of world leader then you might compare them.

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    • Corky

       /  1st May 2020

      And Lefties go on about Sir John’s hair fetish. At least these women had their hair groomed free of charge.

      Talking of the old National guard… Mikey had a good interview with Steven Joyce this morning. Unfortunately I only caught the last thirty seconds . But I know it would have been top class.

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      • Blazer

         /  1st May 2020

        do you have an interest in Joyces area of expertise…Zoology?

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  1st May 2020

    It seems a vote for National is a vote to praise Australia,its sickning watching Judith Collins and Simon Bridges over and over praising our neighbors because PM Jacinda Ardern has done such an outstanding job,all they can do is say Scott Morrison might have done better.Could you see ANY Australian MP praising New Zealand over Australia,its treasonous in my eyes,shame on you Simon Bridges and Judith Collins.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      Treasonous ? Come on, Lurchy. Get a grip, neighbour.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  1st May 2020

        Well Simon’s clutching at straws if he thinks praising Australia and Scott Morrison is going to turn people away from PM Jacinda Ardern,is he putting that trip to see Morrison to use…saying Australia is better than NZ isn’t a smart election ploy,pride in one’s country and all that.

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        • Gezza

           /  1st May 2020

          I agree. I think Jacinda’s still on a roll. She now personifies the govt’s strategy & when even my National voting dairy owner says he’s changed his mind & thinks he might vote for Jacinda next time, Bridges hasn’t got a dog’s show.

          This is the dairy owner I had a bet for a 2 bag of jet planes with. I bet Bridges would be rolled by 1 July last year. My dairy owning mate forgave the debt, at the time – just larfed & said that’s ok, Bridges still has to last until the election.

          ScoMo is going to be remembered more in NZ for his missteps & gaffes in handling the terrible Aussie bush fire outbreaks, I reckon.

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          • Gezza

             /  1st May 2020

            *$2 bag of jet planes

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          • Duker

             /  1st May 2020

            Morrison was repeatedly over ruled by various State premiers who called the shots on the ground and still do about ‘relaxing restrictions’….
            The NRL cant seem to get a straight answer out of Morrison over an exemption for quarantine and thats something within his purview
            ( Apparently the ‘strict quarantine’ has already had large numbers of exemptions)

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    • Corky

       /  1st May 2020

      So, Lurchy. How will you cope with a trans Tasman bubble that Winston is talking about? i Incidentally, I think Alan first suggested such a bubble on this blog.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  1st May 2020

        I might have been first to mention it here but the proposal came from a Qantas CEO if I recall correctly.

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  3. David

     /  1st May 2020

    Almost there, and its a proper trial organised by the NIH with a placebo group. They are talking a 30% improvement over normal treatments which is huge but the research is not quite finished yet.
    A 30% improvement would see the world totally out of lockdown as it would change the maths completely. The only downside is that we would have to let the the virus hit NZ and there would be some deaths.

    ‘The results from the global, placebo-controlled trial run by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) are positive,’ O’Day wrote.

    ‘They show that patients with COVID-19 who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo.’

    Alluding to his company’s prior attempts to use the drug to treat Ebola, he added: ‘After years of research and hard work on remdesivir, there is relief and gratitude among our teams today that their efforts have been so worthwhile.’

    In the White House meeting, Dr Fauci explained that remdesivir appears to block an enzyme that coronavirus relies on to attack human cells and hijack their machinery to make more copies of itself.

    ‘We have a drug that can block the virus,’ he said.

    ‘This will be the standard of care.’

    One of the doctors who administered the drug to patients in the NIH trial echoed both Dr Fauci’s and O’Day’s optimism on Good Morning America.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st May 2020

      Yes, but as I posted earlier via a Reuters report three different studies came to conflicting conclusions. Jury seems to be still out.

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  4. Blazer

     /  1st May 2020

    ‘They show that patients with COVID-19 who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo.’

    yes about 3 days faster.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      11 days instead of 15, I saw Antony Fauci saying on 1news at 6 last night.

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    • David

       /  1st May 2020

      30% quicker which is exciting. Could they give the drug earlier to at risk people before they need to go to hospital and head it off at the pass, maybe they could tweak it a bit to make it more effective.
      They are giving it to the placebo group now, again more hope.

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      • Duker

         /  1st May 2020

        The whole point is to use existing approved anti viral drugs… changing them means a whole different road to get approval.
        As for giving them to people without symptoms… thats better done by vaccine

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        • David

           /  1st May 2020

          Who suggested giving intravenous drugs to someone showing no symptoms ? no one but let me explain what you have missed or didnt understand, lets say an 80 year old shows up with 2 other commodities and you can accurately forecast that if he goes on a ventilator he aint coming off it alive. He is still in reasonably good nick as the virus hasnt yet spread to his lungs so you put him on Remdesivir before he even needs oxygen say to help him slow the virus spreading through his body and it gives his old immune system a head start in eliminating the virus before it replicates too much.
          It is an existing anti viral drug, just one waiting approval for use on Covid 19.

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  5. Corky

     /  1st May 2020

    Seems TV One has a ”go to” clip when reporting on fast foods and social distancing. It’s a clip of customers queuing outside a Burger Fuel franchise. There’s not one brown face amongst the crowd. What a great commentary on education and wealth distribution.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      Why? Where is it, & how could one, same vid clip be much of a commentary on education & wealth distribution in NZ?

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      • Corky

         /  1st May 2020

        Ever thought about becoming a cub reporter? You watch the news and should know exactly what clip I’m referring to. Either that, or you haven’t be watching the news?

        Look, I’m a nice guy…except when I’m extracting utu. I will indulge you this time.

        As for the brain work, you can do that yourself. All you need is the picture. Let’s see what you can come up with and why. Start with a menu…and work forward.

        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/tvnz/onenews/story/2020/04/30/morning-briefing-april-30-pm-scolds-burger-fans-behaving-badly.html

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        • Gezza

           /  1st May 2020

          Look just a quick reply I haven’t been watching the news much of late. Been busy on several important matters & wall-to-wall Covid-19 reporting has been frankly boring.

          Just to say I’ve given you a downtick for the gratuitous nasty tone of that response. I have to go out now for maybe an hour or two. Private Business to attend to. I’ll try & have a look at that when I come back & see whether you need a smack around the ears or not.

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        • Gezza

           /  1st May 2020

          Righto. Found the video clip via a cross link in yours.

          1. Would’ve been better if you’d just linked to article with the embedded video clip to begin with. Points deducted for wasting viewers’ time.

          2. I DID see that news item. It’s a Burger Fuel joint somewhere in Auckland. Not from Auckland & have only ever visited the Central City on business & got out again asap. Last time I was there would’ve been about 2004. Popped out onto the main drag at lunchtime & for a minute I thought I was in Shanghai.

          3. If that’s a “go to” clip I haven’t seen it being used again since, & it was shown on day one of the level 3 “takeaways open for business” day which was only bloody Wednesday – two days ago. Hardly flooding the airwaves with it; they haven’t had time to.

          4. Hard to say if there were any ‘brown faces’ among that lot, mostly those crowding around were in the distance & viewed from the back. A few looked quite tanned. Perhaps you meant polynesians but forgot to say that.

          5. Even if they wiz all pakehas, bro, so what, eh boy? Wots yaw point? Eh?

          6. What a great commentary on education and wealth distribution.
          The only self-evident commentary on education & wealth distribution from your first completely arcane comment – is that one there – of yours! And its utterly meaningless, even taking into account the linked video & your foregoing remarks.

          7. It says nothing about wealth distribution per se (unless you are telling me Burger Fuel burgers are priced above or below the means of some groups; I wouldn’t know or care).

          8. And the only thing it says about education is that you clearly need to go and get some more education on how to clearly communicate whatever the fk it was 🗣 that you were trying to tell readers. 😐

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          • Corky

             /  2nd May 2020

            Interesting… when you PRICK an ego.

            1- ”Would’ve been better if you’d just linked to article with the embedded video clip to begin with. Points deducted for wasting viewers’ time.”

            Point taken. Although you really didn’t need the clip, as per your point 2.

            2- This point wasn’t really necessary. The ”Shanghai quip ” was inappropriate. You and Kitty and some other scion have pointed that out to me when I’ve made similar observations regarding Auckland. Then again maybe the ‘Shanghai quip’ was a nod towards my supposed past transgressions.

            3- I’ve seen this clip used three times. I stopped watching the news for a week, so it could have been shown during that period as well.

            4- You have to be joking. In fact you are joking. Usually Kitty handles the inanities.

            ”Perhaps you meant Polynesians but forgot to say that.”

            Brown faces as a descriptor is used by both Maori and a few European commentators when describing a scene or situation:

            eg – ‘The queue waiting to see rapper Ben-I -Fit was a sea of brown faces.’

            Polynesians – capital P.

            5-. ”Even if they wiz all pakehas, bro, so what, eh boy? Wots yaw point? Eh?”

            Now we get to the sharp end of your post. My point is ”why waste time hiring a bunch of baldheads to run inquiries into this and that when simple observations extrapolated can give tentative results? Another example is the census . The government has so much information on us they could conduct a census using data already available to all government departments. They don’t need us.

            6- Opinion – although your fans would agree with you.

            7- You forgot to look at the cloths,the fashions, the posturing, location and the odd man out. Of course it doesn’t give an itemised account of wealth distribution..but it gives a good heads up.

            8- As matter of fact I’m always trying to improve myself communication wise. It’s an ongoing process. Your point 8 is more about you than me. But on the whole, good work. We all need a good shake up now and again. I get it constantly. Be thankful I don’t have the time to do likewise. 🤨

            Vote RIGHT ↩☑

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            • Gezza

               /  2nd May 2020

              Righto. Thanks for that. You’ve overthought the Shanghai thing I’m sorry to tell you. It was just an observation. I’d flown to Aucks on several occasions on business over the years, nearly always in and out on the same day – rush to get to the airport before the traffic jams got started (once spent a week at the Auckland Branch office though).

              (Weird place. Rained on and off every day. One day every time I stepped out from veranda cover onto the road it rained and when I got to the other side it stopped.)

              Then I had a career shift sideways into two successive roles that were exclusively Wellington-based so no more trips up there for I dunno, 6-8 years.

              On all previous trips popping out into Queen Street during the lunch hour wasn’t too dissimilar to heading onto Lambton Quay, or Willis Street in Wellington. A mix of mainly Polynesians and Pakeha (mostly Pakeha) in the street.

              But that last 2004 trip I did a double take. I couldn’t believe it. It seemed like the whole street was full of Chinese folk; barely a pakeha in sight – and no Polynesians. It was like it had happened overnight. Really weird experience.

              Just an “Observation with Gezza”. Read into it what you will. God knows how your head operates mon ami.

              One other observation:

              3- I’ve seen this clip used three times. I stopped watching the news for a week, so it could have been shown during that period as well.

              That scene outside Burger King only happened on Wednesday, Corks. Because that was the first day they could open to their adoring public. How the heck could it have been shown earlier in the week as well?

              I’ve told you before – I think you actually write well. And I like reading your stuff where it doesn’t get too enigmatic, like this one did.

              Gotta go shopping before the queue at NW builds up. Back later, but I’ve got to go up on the roof and paint that burglar alarm box. Discovered I’m best to use a gloss enamel, rather than my preferred acrylic. Means a 2nd coat will have to wait until tomorrow, dammit. I wanted to finish that project today.

              Try & behave. Later dude.

    • duperez

       /  1st May 2020

      It doesn’t matter which clip they use, someone who knows these things gave the world the true oil the other day. On day one of the big release all those hordes who were lined up to get takeaways? They were all beneficiaries! Source: Kiwiblog. 😊

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      • Duker

         /  1st May 2020

        At 5am .?… reporters spoke to people on their way to work.

        “Early on Tuesday morning at Auckland’s Grey Lynn McDonald’s, cars queued out into Great North Rd to get their first taste of Maccas in almost five weeks”….Grey Lynn beneficiaries?

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      • Corky

         /  1st May 2020

        Sorry, Dupes, I rarely look at Kiwi Blog. However, that would be the general consensus of many uninformed middleclass chatterers. Not entirely true, I’m afraid.

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        • Duker

           /  1st May 2020

          I rarely look at [Deleted incorrect name] ..he was just as much into the dirty politics as Slater but probably did for free.

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    • There’s not one face of any colour in that photo. The people are all seen from the back. Those are the backs of their heads, not their faces.

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      • Corky

         /  1st May 2020

        . Haven’t you some embroidery to do? Why do you need to see their faces. There is a chap hidden behind a support structure. I know he’s not a Maori because I can see his feet…or more importantly – what’s on his feet.

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  6. Pink David

     /  1st May 2020

    Great tweet from General Flynn

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    • Duker

       /  1st May 2020

      Is that the view inside the ‘Club Fed’ jail… where does he keep the Russian flag

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  7. Zedd

     /  1st May 2020

    today : May-day
    tomorrow : J-day ? :/

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  8. Zedd

     /  1st May 2020

    I went to PnS in Sth D this a.m. Not too busy
    > FYI, a shelf full of flour !

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    • Thanks for that, but our groceries have just arrived home – flour was noticed too, but not purchased. We should have enough for another couple of weeks.

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  9. duperez

     /  1st May 2020

    12:00 News. Simon Bridges said he wouldn’t discuss internal polling with the media. Fair enough too. If he won’t discuss it with his caucus why would he discuss it with the media?

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  10. Corky

     /  1st May 2020

    Candyland for RIGHTIES. Warning: This link is toxic for Lefties.

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/

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  11. duperez

     /  1st May 2020

    Visitor today who stayed still to pose:

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      Cool photo dupers.

      Did you manage to have a conversation with it? Mine seem to like being talked to. They’re curious & they fly up & perch closer when I do that, once I’ve got their attention.

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  12. lurcher1948

     /  1st May 2020

    I love KIWIS, they eat roots, shoots and leaves

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      Wow! Fantastic vid clip. Where’d you find that?

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      • Gezza

         /  1st May 2020

        Oh – sorry when it was playing the Dept of Conservation was blocked out by the playing timeline bar.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st May 2020

      Mrs Al heard one in our garden the other night. Usually they are a bit further away across the valley.

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  13. Alan Wilkinson

     /  1st May 2020

    Sunset after tonight’s dogwalk

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2020

      I’m usually up very early in the morning. It’s very noticeable that our dawns are steadily arriving later, & sundowns arriving earlier, over the last couple of weeks. What time was that photo taken?

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