No new cases, no more people in hospital, no more deaths

This is just one day, but for the first time since the Covid-19 outbreak there have been no new cases (one probable case has switched to confirmed), no more deaths, and 3 less people in hospital (now 4 with none in ICU).

So another promising step but still a long way to go.

There is also a very low level of influenza in the country, not surprising given the lockdown situation. This will save hospital resources and probably lives, although the traditional ‘flu season’ is coming up with winter approaching.

Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield:

“Clearly these are encouraging figures today, but it is just one moment in time. The real test is later this week when we factor in the incubation period for the virus and the time it takes for people to display symptoms which is generally five to six days after exposure.”

“That’s when we will have an indication if there are any new cases coming through that might be emerging in the community as a result of our shift from level four to level three.”

“We cannot afford to squander all the hard work and effort of the past weeks. We did see at the weekend that it can be easy to start slackening off and we need to maintain discipline and keep pushing on and sustain the advantage that we have fought so hard for.”

That’s going to be a battle with the health authorities and Government versus a growing complacency.


In her post-Cabinet press conference Jacinda Ardern said that Cabinet discussed what level 2 would be like. She said she would advise the public on Thursday.

“It will provide clarity and certainty and give people time to prepare. No decision has been made on moving out level 3 at this stage.”

She has said a decision will be made when Cabinet meets next Monday.

By delaying sharing this information and delaying the decision she may be hoping people will wait until they relax their isolation, but given behaviour over the weekend just past this week and particularly this weekend many people may end up choosing their own level, and may not be keen on being restricted more than that even on level 2.

RNZ:  Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to join Australia Cabinet meeting to discuss trans-Tasman bubble

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will join Australia’s Cabinet meeting tomorrow via video link to discuss the possibility of a trans-Tasman bubble. Ardern briefed media at 4pm after her own government’s Cabinet meeting. Watch here: “The meeting will discuss a range of matters in relation to the covid response on both sides of the Tasman including the creation of a trans-Tasman travel bubble.”

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31 Comments

  1. How many fewer than none will there have to be before the PM lets us out of our cages ?

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    • Blazer

       /  4th May 2020

      why is there lockdown in virtually every country on earth?(includes Tory Govts)

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  4th May 2020

        Good question. We need to find who was responsible and sue them.

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      • Duker

         /  4th May 2020

        Yes . Tel Aviv or Tehran, lock down is much the same ..India or Iraq.
        Its how its worked since the middle ages
        In UK they are nearly as many people dead ( real figures probably more) as from the Blitz ( 43,000 or so)

        Interesting that too had pre- war estimated that 60 days of bombing would leave 600,000 dead- so many dead per ton of bombs.
        Thats could be mitigated by evacuations from the city and various types of bomb shelters.
        As well the ideas of psychological damage from the stress and witnessing death and destruction didnt occur.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz#%22Blitz_Spirit%22
        “Predictions had underestimated civilian adaptability and resourcefulness; also there were many new civil defence roles that gave a sense of fighting back rather than despair. ”

        I think we will see this will Covid as well, the public will want to contribute to the recovery and help in any way….. some prefer to wallow in despair and the usual malcontents and wreckers make themselves known.
        However the polls have far far more in support

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        • Pink David

           /  4th May 2020

          “In UK they are nearly as many people dead ( real figures probably more) as from the Blitz ( 43,000 or so)”

          Why do you insist on lying like this? The real figures are significant lower. Anyone who dies in the UK with a suspected case of Covid is counted as a covid ‘associated’ death. No causation is required, nor even a positive test.

          99/00 had 48,000 excess deaths, yet no one was running around claiming it was worse than the blitz. 2014/15 had 44,000, no one was running around claiming it was worse than the blitz.

          https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

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          • Duker

             /  4th May 2020

            I was going to put UK covid deaths 28,000 so that comparison could be made, but found the actions of the public during the blitz more interesting….but forgot. So yes you have me skewered.

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        • Pink David

           /  4th May 2020

          “usual malcontents and wreckers make themselves known.”

          The term wreckers comes from the Soviet Union where anyone who criticised the system of mass murder and imprisonment was called a ‘wrecker’. The penalty was often execution. Did you chose to use this term out of ignorance, or out of malice?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_(Soviet_Union)

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          • oldlaker

             /  4th May 2020

            I think the usage is more recent. Helen Clark in 2004 refused to meet Foreshore and Seabed hikoi participants, labelling them “haters and wreckers”.

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          • Blazer

             /  4th May 2020

            I always thought they spoke Russian in the Soviet Union!

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          • Duker

             /  4th May 2020

            Its Trump who’s calling out the words vrag naroda …or Enemy of the People

            “The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes@NBCNews@ABC@CBS@CNN
            ) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

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        • Gezza

           /  4th May 2020

          Yes, I get the feeling the economic recovery will go better than doomsayers predict & that more folk will be champing at the bit to do their bit than will sit on their arses whining and/ or wanting handouts.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  4th May 2020

            What do doomsayers predict, G? Tourism wipeout. Foreign student wipeout. Retail, transport, hospitality and construction massacre. Higher taxes to pay for huge debt and Govt welfare and make-work schemes. Reduced productivity with greater H&S burdens everywhere.

            And that is just the optimists?

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            • Gezza

               /  4th May 2020

              Yup. We may have to substantially rebuild the nation. And I think people will want to be part of that.

  2. Stupid from the Herald:

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  4th May 2020

      Still a couple of hundred active infections in quarantine.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  4th May 2020

        Actually that number seems too high. I’d question whether the follow thru testing for continued infection is correct.

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        • Duker

           /  4th May 2020

          Judicial review then Alan … you could be ‘C’ as ‘A’ has been allocated but aptly named

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  4th May 2020

        What total dickheads downtick a simple statement of fact from the MoH website? If they had a brain cell it would be lonely. It really boggles my mind sometimes how stupid people can be and then I recover enough to just live with it somehow.

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        • Gezza

           /  4th May 2020

          Stay calm please, Sir Alan. Now is not the time for cools to be lost over miniscule matters of utterly insignificant import. Perhaps the hot tub might restore your equanimity?

          Sir Gerald

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  4th May 2020

            You realise these people vote, Sir Gerald? Tragic.

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            • Gezza

               /  4th May 2020

              Needs a bit longer. one suspects. Bsck in the tub. Get Mrs Al in there too.

  3. Added to post:

    In her post-Cabinet press conference Jacinda Ardern said that Cabinet discussed what level 2 would be like. She said she would advise the public on Thursday.

    “It will provide clarity and certainty and give people time to prepare. No decision has been made on moving out level 3 at this stage.”

    She has said a decision will be made when Cabinet meets next Monday.

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    • She must run out of excuses to control our lives in all respects some time.

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      • Blazer

         /  4th May 2020

        never seen such old whingers as you and Al….every single day you criticise the P.M as if she alone arbitrarily makes policy .

        ‘control’ your life….you have to get one…first.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  4th May 2020

          I don’t just pick on Jacinda. I called them a bunch of gangsters (incl the cops) and usually refer to the Govt.

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        • Gezza

           /  4th May 2020

          Kitty has a life. She also has a nice house & a lovely garden which she has adorned with some of her own hand-crafted, simple, yet delightful & whimsical outdoor art works. She is more of a free spirit than posters here realise. You forget, as someone else once told you (trav?) people are not cardboard cutouts. They have riches of experiences & character beyond what they show here.

          Well, most of them do. One or two of our lot who don’t need to be named here post like right miserygutses & and such constant snarks one can imagine them having few friends & very bleak lives.

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          • Blazer

             /  4th May 2020

            have you been to her house have you?
            If you’re talking to me…I use the term ‘cardboard cutouts’….Trav and her privilege abandoned debate not long after the new Govt took over.

            I doubt that you know her(KC) very well at all.
            She is very much…’this one time at…band camp’i.e an anecdote for every topic.

            I find her a shallow,misery guts always trying to flaunt an imagined superior intellect…and failing badly.

            She is besotted with the ACT party ,a sure indicator that she is mesmerised by Ayn Rands extreme ,selfish outlook on life and it certainly shows with her perennial whinging.

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            • Gezza

               /  4th May 2020

              Nope. I haven’t been to her house. But we correspond reasonably regularly by email. Started with our shared ornithological interest & observations of birds’ highly individual personalities. We swap pics, that sort of thing.

              Re-covering a four legged meeting room chair & a footstool here are on my project to do list – courtesy of pics & details that Kitty’s sent me of how she re-covered furniture of hers.

              Got some very amusing photo-stories of her dog too.

              Kitty is both very practical & very creative. Along with other more, shall we say, seemingly rigid aspects of her personality.

              I like having friends & pen friends with different perspectives from mine. Keeps me grounded, I find.

              I find her a shallow,misery guts always trying to flaunt an imagined superior intellect…and failing badly.

              I can understand that, from how she posts here, but I know there’s more to her than what she posts here – and, curious thing THAT is how I sometimes see you, from what you post.

              And because you’re locked up tight as a bank safe about anything else happening in your life, that’s a dominant impression; there’s nothing to indicate there’s much more to you than someone who hates National, Bill English, Sir John (not mad keen on that blighter myself, must admit) ACT, any poster whose politics or philosophy you deplore, and of course Bankers/zionists.

            • Blazer

               /  4th May 2020

              Well we can only form impressions from the experiences and information we have.
              My political leanings are quite clear.
              As for most things, I believe I have an open mind and am interested in a hell of a lot more than politics.
              As this is a politically inspired blog,not surprisingly people tend to make all manner of assumptions about posters based on how they see things ,compared to their own views.
              How accurate can those assumptions really be?

            • Gezza

               /  4th May 2020

              How accurate can those assumptions really be?

              Mostly zero. That’s why you rarely see me make them in my comments, & why I’m bemused at those posters who regularly post like they think they’ve got insight into another poster’s mind & can tell them what they’re thinking, or what they’re like, or what they really mean.

              When someone does it to me, they’ll find I start to study them.

      • duperez

         /  4th May 2020

        Kitty, do you think she’ll run out of excuses to control our lives in all respects before you tire of finding any reason you can to criticise her? When she’s the Opposition leader after September can you see yourself proclaiming her the worst, least effective opposition leader ever?

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