Ministry of Health ‘reviewing procedures’ for compassionate and exceptional quarantine rules

There was confusion between the Prime Minister and Ministry of Health yesterday after a court judgment was released that found the Ministry of Health should not have refused leave for a man to leave Covid quarantine to see his dying father – see Court rules man under Covid quarantine can visit dying father.

Both the PM and MoH gave assurances procedures would be reviewed after confusion between them over numbers of people granted compassionate of exceptional exemptions – 18 had applied but it turned out the be none had been granted.

RNZ: No exemptions from border rules given on compassionate grounds

None of the travellers returning to New Zealand to see a family member who is close to dying have been allowed out of managed isolation.

Figures provided to RNZ suggest 24 people have applied for an exemption to visit someone dying or close to dying and all have been turned down.

In some cases the traveller was still in isolation when their relative died.

About 50 other people who applied for an exemption from the mandatory 14-day isolation on other compassionate grounds were also rejected.

The Ministry of Health said the border rules could be “very distressing” but it was taking a precautionary approach.

It looks like it has been more than ‘precautionary’.

However, during a media briefing after her Cabinet meeting this afternoon, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told media 18 of 24 requests where a relative was dying had been accepted.

“Information that I’ve received from the Ministry of Health, though, sets out that there were 283 requests for an exemption to the conditions of isolation having been received by 30 April, and that 24 exemptions was sought in cases where relative was dying or close to dying, of which 18 were granted.

“That does suggest that there has been due consideration. That is advice I’ve received from the Ministry of Health, but I’m sure that they will be reflecting on this judgment.”

Questioned about the discrepancy, the Ministry said the Prime Minister’s figures were incorrect, and no exemptions had been granted for compassionate reasons.

“The layout of Ministry of Health figures supplied to the Prime Minister’s Office may have contributed to confusion over compassionate exemptions. The Ministry sincerely apologises for this.

“As of 30 April, the number of requests from a returned traveller, or travellers, for an exemption to the conditions of their isolation totalled 283. The number of those requests for exemptions granted was 18.

“To the same date, the number of ‘compassionate’ or similar requests for exemptions totalled 73. The number of these where this was to visit a relative dying or close to dying totalled 24. None of those 24 exemptions were granted.”

NZ Herald: Judge overrules lockdown, allows son to visit dying father

Speaking at her post-Cabinet press conference this afternoon, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said authorities needed to make sure “we learn” from the Christiansen and other rulings.

It appeared the response to his application was an automotive response, so it was her expectation the Ministry of Health would take the ruling into consideration.

‘Automotive response may be a typo, it doesn’t make sense. Does it mean automatic? That’s what was suggested in the judgment. That would be an awful way to deal with compassionate or exceptional circumstances. Or unemotive?

Stuff:  Jacinda Ardern asks for review of all cases where family members were denied permission to visit relatives

“The Prime Minister has spoken to the Minister of Health this evening and asked that each of these cases now be reviewed in light of the Court’s ruling.”

That will be too late in cases where people have already died.

The Ministry of Health would not comment on whether it had apologised to the Christiansen family.

Instead, the spokeswoman said each request for leave from isolation on compassionate grounds or exceptional reasons is considered on its individual merits.

“The fact that the Court decided to intervene in this case does not mean that it would take the same approach in respect of other decisions by the Ministry not to allow leave from isolation.”

She said the Ministry is reviewing its processes for considering requests for leave on compassionate grounds and exceptional reasons to prevent this issue arising again.

Dr Ashley Bloomfield is speaking about this on RNZ now and is explaining and defending the way the Ministry of Health has dealt with requests.

Ashley Bloomfield, the Director-General of Health, tells Morning Report that every case is considered individually, not automatically.

Dr Bloomfield says he spoke with the team who run the process and told them to carefully consider the man’s application.

Dr Bloomfield does not know how many people had now died in the 24 cases but assured a quick review of the cases.

The RNZ interview: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018745167/coronavirus-ashley-bloomfield-on-isolation-exemptions


Update – RNZ report: Ashley Bloomfield defends staff after judge overturns quarantine decision

There were 283 requests for exemptions to 30 April, and of those 24 were on compassionate or similar grounds. None of those on compassionate grounds were granted, Bloomfield said.

But the High Court ruling didn’t mean the team had failed to apply the criteria, he said.

“What the staff do is they apply the criteria and look at all the information they have objectively and fairly … and with great empathy. They don’t just say this is a no, they have to – and they do – look through the information very carefully.

“What the judge was saying is that they didn’t feel from the information that was presented that it was obvious that that process had been followed.”

The decisions on mandatory isolation also had to be fair, and in line with the process for people applying to travel within the country.

“That has very strict criteria and many New Zealanders will know of people who during the lockdown in alert level 4 were unable to either attend funerals or visit dying relatives because we were on a really clear pathway to try and stop the transmission of Covid-19 in our communities to protect everybody.”

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22 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  5th May 2020

    Utterly disgraceful – both the behaviour and the response to being called to account.

    The Government’s reputation for kindness and empathy is in tatters. This looks like the beginning of the end for it.

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    • Duker

       /  5th May 2020

      The decisions were made by officials , not the Ministers. They werent even operating legally by declining. Theres people like this in every government department , even more so in Councils, too hell with the rules, Im not allowing it …Next.

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    • Dennis Horne

       /  5th May 2020

      Look at the UK to see what happens when a Buffoon and clowns run the place: underestimate the pandemic and let the population of fools do what they like in the name of “freedom”.

      Science progresses one funeral at a time — Max Planck.

      I look forward to your contribution.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  5th May 2020

        I shan’t take up the invitation to fly with you, Dennis.

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        • Duker

           /  5th May 2020

          Yes , some live in privileged enclaves, spaced out homes, only crowded open spaces in summer peak
          The working class poor in the London brorough of Newham( formerly West Ham/East Ham) have to go to work, and there death rate is nearly 150 per 100,000 ( 532 deaths

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  5th May 2020

            The debacle in the UK was partly caused by the Government believing its science advisors and partly through being the financial and economic hub of Europe, most dense population and by far the biggest city. Similar issues to New York.

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      • Pink David

         /  5th May 2020

        “Look at the UK to see what happens when a Buffoon and clowns run the place: underestimate the pandemic and let the population of fools do what they like in the name of “freedom”.”

        You mean like Sweden? A country of adults, run by adults. You on the other hand gave away your own freedom for nothing more than your own fear.

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        • Duker

           /  5th May 2020

          Adults now ? I thought they were socialist lap dogs for the crony capitalism, , state owned sector, generous welfare scheme, large migrant flows etc.

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  2. Pink David

     /  5th May 2020

    When did NZ become a country that requires you to ask for government permission to visit your dying relatives?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  5th May 2020

      Exactly. If the courts had failed to protect this right it would be time to either leave the country or overthrow the Government.

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      • Fight4nz

         /  5th May 2020

        ROFLMAO. Love the hysterical hyperbole!
        Yes insurrection by dinner time!!!
        What time would dinner be by the way? Is it the eye fillet or the crayfish tonight? I l think the crayfish, no need to suffer, it’s only a pandemic.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  5th May 2020

          You will in time be the crayfish, F4N, if you ever get what you want.

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          • Duker

             /  5th May 2020

            Oh dear Wilco, you are turning “french”…get the other bach owners to rev up the tractors, don your high viz vests and blockade the roads

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  3. Fight4nz

     /  5th May 2020

    Aye??
    If I get what I want it won’t be just your end of town that gets to dine on crayfish.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  5th May 2020

      Check out what happened to the French and Russian revolutionaries. Or Zimbabwe, SA and Tanzania. Or pretty much anywhere in South America or the Middle East. Maybe you’d prefer to live in China rather than Taiwan? Or you have some other Nirvana in mind?

      As for my dinner, it will be as usual be healthy, tasty and inexpensive, cooked by yours truly, thanks for asking. Definitely no crayfish or eye fillet.

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      • Fight4nz

         /  5th May 2020

        Ok. Working off your extrapolations of what I want, the unavoidable conclusion is that what you want will lead us to Nazi Germany.
        Sensational use of hyperbole again!

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  5th May 2020

          So while you promise eye fillet and crayfish for all you will actually deliver queues for dried beans and rice like every other socialist enemy of freedom.

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          • Fight4nz

             /  5th May 2020

            National delivered long queues for basic food over 5 years ago, with bonus no home. Why would I want to repeat that?

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            • Gezza

               /  5th May 2020

              Well … Yes, maybe … but National didn’t deliver long queues for basic food & bonus no house for ALL (except those in the party). And we’ve still got those queues in Labour’s 3rd year (ignoring, & pre-, Covid-19)

            • Duker

               /  5th May 2020

              Yes they inherited the housing bust… and havent done nearly enough- when shutting the immigration door would helped a lot. ( Thats will change now)
              What was the housing situation like 2 years after the 2008 elections?….wasnt the answer to everything “cycleways” and golf with Obama and 2 min ‘grip and grin’ moments with world leaders

  4. My mother died before I was able to get down to Wanganui to see her, was just too late, I can’t think how ghastly it must be if people were where they could see their dying relations but were forbidden to, and forbidden to see the body to say goodbye. At least I had that.

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