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  1. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    The Dominion Post:

    The streets around Parliament are normally teaming with public servants, scuttling from meetings to lunch dates. Some even lucky enough to squeeze in a gym session.

    Despite lockdown restrictions easing, children heading back to school and offices reopening their doors, the scores of peak-hour office workers remain noticeably absent from Wellington’s central city.



    Many government departments were allowing staged returns to the office, but large swathes of the public service were still opting to work remotely. One of the big drivers for this was physical distancing — these requirements meant offices were simply unable to accommodate their pre-Covid numbers.

    The State Services Commission said it was encouraging agencies to manage the return to the workplace “gradually” with WorkSafe and public health requirements remaining the priority.

    “Under alert level 2, alternative ways of working are being encouraged, such as remote working, shift-based working and rotation of staff. “This will provide greater flexibility for agencies as workers make the gradual return to the workplace,” a spokesman said.

    While Kāinga Ora could have 168 workers in their building, just 27 turned up on Monday — the rest working from home. The Ministry of Education saw about a quarter of its workforce return to the office, the equivalent of around 450 staff. While deputy secretary business enablement and support Zoe Griffiths anticipated that number would grow gradually, a few staff members would continue to work remotely.

    Small numbers of Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) staff were returning to work, but the “majority” were working from home due to health conditions, family commitments and public transport challenges.

    Department of Corrections deputy chief executive Megan Main said most of its 1000 staff members were working remotely. “The wellbeing of our staff is our top priority, and we are supporting our people to work in the way that is right for their personal situation,” Main said. 

    There was a “small number of people” at its national office, where extra safety precautions were being followed. “We will continue to regularly review our position in line with guidance from the Ministry of Health and in consultation with our people,” Main added.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/121545348/coronavirus-public-servants-shun-central-city-at-alert-level-2

    With only about 3 departmental examples cited this is really just another time & space-filler article, but if the public service still functions in more or less the same way as it did when I resigned in 2007, many staff will be relishing the opportunity to do their mahi away from the irritating & time-wasting management & their ‘important’ but often (practically speaking) irrelevant visionary & back-patting meetings.

    It likely will also be a joy to be away from the interminable Head Office-worker politics that nearly does one’s head in sometimes.

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  2. David

     /  19th May 2020

    Mixed news on a vaccine overnight with the Oxford Universities reportedly not that effective but the Moderna vaccine showing great results and their shareprice spiking 30%.
    Boris is backing the Poms and Trumpy is backing the Yanks…either way it will annoy the media no end.

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  3. David

     /  19th May 2020

    Pretty horrid poll for National but not entirely surprising, Kate agrees with me on my Stockholm Syndrome theory. One would think its too much to turn around by September given the tsunami of cash been sprayed around as well but “events”.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12332935

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    • Corky

       /  19th May 2020

      Jacinda could apply the finisher by promising a helicopter payment in late July. National should count their blessings in my opinion. Jacinda is still in the honeymoon period post Covid. Things must change radically over the next three years. National should concentrate on having an alternate plan for post Covid recovery ready for election time..and have a little fun with choosing a new leader…or not?

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    • NOEL

       /  19th May 2020

      The lockdown poll says a!l.
      National thought their continued harping on the legality of the lockdown would resonate.

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      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        Yeah, but did you see those Kiwis interviewed in the street? They seemed to be spouting opinions based on Kiwis ‘fairness trait” rather than an intellectually considered overview.

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        • duperez

           /  19th May 2020

          That was just a few they selected on the streets who they used to illustrate their narrative.

          The intellectually considered views were on Kiwiblog last night. A few saying they were leaving, moving to Australia, others throwing their toys out ot their cots, others simply just apoplectic.

          I was tempted to join in and try to console and counsel, say to not be silly and that in September both National and Labour will be in the 40s and with Act getting a few MPs it’s going to be very much touch and go.

          I didn’t though. I thought that if they were going to tell the world they had the answers by throwing tantrums and displaying the level of intellect on show they could suffer. I hope the moves to Australia go well and there aren’t too many injuries tripping over toys this morning.

          The intellectually considered overview from one genius, the answer for NZ moving ahead, the vision for us all? ‘Get tough on crime.’ Jesus wept.

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          • Corky

             /  19th May 2020

            ”That was just a few they selected on the streets who they used to illustrate their narrative.”

            But… 91.6% supported Level 4 lockdown. I’m sure most of those respondents would be carbon copies of those interviewed.

            ”The intellectually considered views were on Kiwiblog last night.”

            No, those folk are the RIGHT equivalent of a gormless Leftie . The ”intellectually considered views ( and interviews) ” were on talkback radio RIGHT through the lockdown.

            I

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      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        Bridges started great ….supported the lockdown to the hilt, we are all one etc ttc.
        Then instead of riding the wave of approval with Ardern and having a bi partisan sheen rub off on him ( as Key was savvy enough to do with Clark some times – after the Curia polls came in that is) he decided to ignore the polls and go the other direction.
        My view is that the big donors and party nomenklatura took the opposite view – Socialism!! and Bridges failed the leadership test .
        I still think he will be leader up to the election as they will have to dynamite him out.

        But the Colmar Brunton poll next Sunday/Monday and the National caucus meets on Tues could prove me wrong

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    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      Kate, I’m delighted to note, while she’s correct about Jacinda’s superbly orchestrated media saturation coverage, is displaying all the all-too-familiar signs of the Green-Eyed-Monster. 🐍

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    • NOEL

       /  19th May 2020

      Aussies should have got the international support first.
      China sees Australia as a proxy for the US..
      https://www.businessinsider.com.au/120-nations-support-un-investigating-coronavirus-origin-china-angry-2020-5r=usir=t

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  19th May 2020

      We are too deep in now to do more than waggle a pinky at the dragon’s underbelly when no-one is looking. Good on Scomo but I give him a week before he crumbles

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      • Gezza

         /  19th May 2020

        We’ll have to wait & see. Has NZ ruled out Huawei in its 5G network? I can’t remember.

        Oz is always so far up the US’s arse it’s possibly considered more in need of a kicking by Beijing.

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        • NOEL

           /  19th May 2020

          After all the hoopla Spark quietly went with Ericsson it’s core.

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          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            Probably off the hook with that one then, if it it’s perceived to be a purely commercial business decision & not driven by a govt edict.

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            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              “A Chinese state media report that New Zealand is “softening” a ban on Huawei 5G is not accurate, according to Spark and the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB).”

              “A GCSB spokesperson said the agency’s position with regard to making network security risk assessments under TICSA was “unchanged”.
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/117327656/chinese-media-reports-softening-of-huawei-5g-ban-in-nz

              Its the ‘core system’ where Huawei still has the security risk like it always is.

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Interesting:

              There is no blanket ban on Huawei 5G in New Zealand.

              But in December, spy agency the Government Communications Security Bureau (GSCB) blocked a proposal from Spark to use Huawei 5G equipment after it identified a “significant network security risk”.

              A spokesperson for Spark said on Monday nothing had changed since the GCSB blocked its original proposal.

              “In terms of any new 5G proposal, there is no change at this stage, we continue to work with the Government,” the spokesperson said.

              Looks like some dancing around being done.

            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              No dancing, just ‘crisis actors’ trying to muddy things.
              Huawei doenst meet GCSB security requirements, so is banned from the core 5G system. However for lower risk minor parts of the system they are OK….. the crumbs
              Previously for 4G Huawei wasnt the best system for 2 degrees, just that they offered vendor finance for the new kid on the block , the laon was later sold to one of the state owned Chinese banks operating in NZ.
              Perhaps vendor finance was the carrot for Spark too.

            • Corky

               /  19th May 2020

              ”However for lower risk minor parts of the system they are OK….”

              Huawei should be banned completely. That’s like saying you can have access to the laundry and fit it out..but you cannot access the rest of the house. They are already in the house.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  19th May 2020

          Unlike you G, I know what side I’m on. So does scomo it seems. Waffle on my dear old thing, you’ll work it out in the end

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          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            I know what side I’m on. The side that best avoids getting sucked into either the Chinese Empire or the Amerikan Empire’s grasp. Neither of them has our best interests at heart under the current POTUS regime. WW2 is long gone.

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  4. Conspiratoor

     /  19th May 2020

    A breakthrough or hype?

    Tesla’s planned ‘Battery Day’ announcements will likely be held in two parts, the first being a June webcast and the second an “in-person” event possibly in the third quarter of this year. … That’s the message from Tesla chief executive Elon Musk who initially planned to reveal the company’s battery projects in late May. … Tesla is also likely to announce details around a secret Roadrunner project to make a “million mile” battery using more energy dense and cheaper battery cells

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    • Griff.

       /  19th May 2020

      Tesla are building their own battery manufacturing capacity using new technology they have developed .
      New process that has less solvents and a more efficient electrode giving longer life along with cheaper manufacturing .
      I suggest you watch the latest Tony Seba video to get why this is important.

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      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        Gone to China.
        Ford had the centralised production of everything on one site, now its dispersed with axles made by supplier elsewhere and motors for windscreen wiper somewhere else and so on.
        The final assembly line is just that ‘assembly’ of pre built parts from elsewhere

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  5. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Think we just had a earthquake. Very short & sharp one – just a bang to the whole Manor, not even a perceptible jolt. Pooks outside on my lawn reacted. Checking Geonet.

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    • Small but close, 3.5, 10 km west of Porirua.

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      • Gezza

         /  19th May 2020

        See below. Hit by the Random WordPress Wilkinson Effect.

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      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        They can be quite startling as the effects on houses are ‘noisy’, being close by both vertical and horizontal waves are simultaneous

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        • Gezza

           /  19th May 2020

          We get quite a few small ones from the Porirua/Kapiti & adjacent offshore region. My bet is these are related to the slow slip even happening offshore.

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          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            *slow slip event
            On the lappy. Can’t blame the FiP for that one.

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            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              Dont the slow slips happen on the NI east coast mostly ??
              https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Learning/Science-Topics/Earthquakes/Earthquakes-at-a-Plate-Boundary/Slow-Slip-Events
              Earthquakes however do what they like and dont follow our rules

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Keep up.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86927682/slowslip-earthquakes-detected-in-kapiti-and-manawatu-joining-gisborne-and-hawkes-bay

              Kapiti-Manawatu slow slip is also mentioned on Geonet’s Slow Slip Watch page.

            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              That was likely a one off after the Kaikoura quake…… according to GNS, did you have one of those this week ?

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              You need to do more googling yet.

              The slow slip earthquake happening off Kapiti-Manawatu has been known about & observed by seismilogists for some years. Well before the Kaikoura quakes.

              Geonet site’s been revamped. It used to have more information about it. The revamp’s been quite retrograde in some respects.

              Keep googling.

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              *seismologists

            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              “https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86927682/slowslip-earthquakes-detected-in-kapiti-and-manawatu-joining-gisborne-and-hawkes-bay

              Ye it was after the Kaikoura one in 2016
              “The discovery of slow slipping on the west of the lower North Island comes as signs emerge that activity in Gisborne and Hawke’s Bay may be tapering of…”

              Thats period was the only one…. as GNS tells it , Im relying on their knowlege…

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Hmm. Perhaps you’re right. I’ve known about it for some years because we get a lot of small quakes that don’t make the news & I’ve been checking Geonet for years as soon as they happen & surprisingly many come from off the Kapiti / Porirua area. Living in Welly has made me interested in our seismic & geologic history. Wellington’s geology is really complex; you only have to walk along to Red Rocks seal colony & around the beaches to see the crazy patterns & angles the weathering sedimentary layers have been squeezed into.

              There’s a top-crustal/mantle interface zone under Wellington that’s stuck, while the rest is descending.

              I THINK Kapiti/Manawatu was a recognised slow slip before 2016, but I’d have to hunt around a bit to confirm it.

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Offshore the Gisborne and Hawke’s Bay regions, slow slip events are very shallow (<15 km depth), and occur over a period of around 2 weeks approximately every two years. Beneath the Manawatu and Kapiti regions, much deeper slow slip events (60-25 km depth) are observed over periods of 1-1.5 years.

              The most recent events beneath the Manawatu, Gisborne, and Hawke’s Bay regions occurred in 2010/2011, while the last slow slip event beneath the Kapiti area and the Marlborough sounds was in 2008. If the plate boundary slip that occurred during the Manawatu 2010/2011 event occurred suddenly (rather than over a year), it would have been equivalent to a magnitude 7.0 earthquake.

              This appears to be historical GNS info.
              https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Learning/Science-Topics/Earthquakes/Earthquakes-at-a-Plate-Boundary/Slow-Slip-Events

            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              Your local knowledge gives you edge then

            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              It happens. I grew up in a city in the shadow of the most beautiful volcano in the country; it’s kind of overdue to pop its top & has done that & rebuilt itself 5 times, from memory. So I’m interested in volcanos & have been for yonks.

              And I moved to a city that is always waiting for The Big One, which could come off any of 5 known close regional major fault lines – and any number of smaller subsidiary ones. The 1855 quake was in the Wairarapa fault; even a lot of Wellingtonians think it was the Wellington one.

              I hiked the greater Wellington region for a year & checked out the visible geology wherever I went.

              I’m not an expert; just interested enuf to have read & watched a lot on volcanology & earthquakes – & tsunamis. The 2004 Boxing Day tsunami & the 2011 Japanese (Tohuku?) tsunamis both produced so much excellent cellcam video footage it answered my long-wondered question why did people call them “tidal waves”? They were nearly always told don’t call them that; they’re not tidal. But look at them. They’re like a full tide, the entire sea behind them, coming in, all at once.

  6. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Yep. Geonet:

    When Tue May 19 2020 8:07 AM
    Where 10 km west of Porirua
    Shaking Weak
    Magnitude 3.5
    Depth 32 km
    Quality preliminary

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  7. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Breakfast Report

    Milky coffee with sugar, a banana, 1 egg & 1 Rindless Eye Bacon rasher fried in a dab o pf Goldn Canola & served with a slice of NW Value Wheatmeal toast bread.

    Hope Blazer returns soon. He’s a better breakfast reporter than me.

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    • I had the same as I have every day.

      I have just had a latte, but as I am not as sophisticated as Mike H in this respect, I drank it quietly and didn’t slurp it.

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  19th May 2020

    Hi to the rightwing supporters here,a great poll result for our country and PM Jacinda Ardern and the population.A hint to the right,DONT BE SO NEGATIVE,New Zealanders dont give a rat’s bum how good Taiwan or Australia did,because WE DID GOOD,only a righty would badmouth NZ and praise another country,so negative so in finishing HAHAHAHAHA

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    • Corky

       /  19th May 2020

      ”WE DID GOOD,only a righty would badmouth NZ and praise another country,so negative so in finishing HAHAHAHAHA.”

      I know I should be feeling offended, Lurchy. Can you remind me why that is? I know the HAHAHAHAH bit means it’s bad news for us RIGHTIES….apparently?😮

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      • lurcher1948

         /  19th May 2020

        Well, Corky I put my chompers(ii actually have my teeth) in, looked at our two scooters parked outside and have a warm glow for our PM saint Jacinda Ardern, due to in part the heating subsidy, and the fact SHES not a negative person and doesn’t punish NZs if they are not rich, and important. Due to Covid-19, the world has moved on from stale old white angry rightwing males to a better future, THANK GOD for our PM…Jacinda Ardern

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        • Corky

           /  19th May 2020

          You rotten socialist.

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        • Lurch, how do you feel about the damage done to the economy and people’s lives ? Some of those whose jobs and incomes have gone are going hungry. We will be paying back the billions borrowed for who knows how long. Businesses have gone bust, unemployment has risen and will rise more. Old people who live alone were supposed to stay alone for seven weeks, no matter how much they needed help. Domestic violence was up and the victims were forbidden to leave the house so had to stay with their abusers. All because of St Jacinda’s draconian lockdown.

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  9. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Pooks queueing and observing the one in one out rule.

    (I need to wash my kitchen & dining room viewing windows again. It’s a bit like washing your car; as soon as you do it it gets windy and then rains and you have to do it all again because now its dirty again.)

    It rained slightly very early this morning, judging from the wet footpath, but looks like a nice sunny day in the offing again. Good. I have projects to attend to.

    Thank you
    That is all
    Sir Gerald
    🐧 Avian Aviation Authority 🐧

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    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      Spoke too soon. It’s just started raining out of a sunny sky. The view to the South…

      Better check the weather forecast before I get up on the roof again.

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      • Gezza

         /  19th May 2020

        Today’s Forecast
        Max 12°C Min 5°C
        Cloudy with isolated morning showers, then fine spells from afternoon. Southerlies easing this afternoon.

        Should be ok after lunch. Must get an outside thermometer. It’s warm inside but nippy out there. 3 tuis here together this morning. Discussing what to do about Aspen Pook, currently nicking their sugar water, I imagine.

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        • The sparrers, dunnocks and waxeyes raise a middle claw to the one out, one in rule (they tend to do this to Mutt and Jeff, the bird table mynahs)

          It’s still mild enough here for short sleeves.

          We seldom have earthquakes here, and only two that have made me stand under a doorframe, an instinctive reaction from years of living with quakes.

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          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            That was my 3rd photo of this mornings Southern sky with rainbow. It had a surprise bonus in it when I opened it on the laptop. Can you guess why I chose that one? 🙂

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        • The Warehouse and Mitre10 have good thermometers. So do $$ shops.

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    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      I’ve come up with an idea for how to stop the pooks stealing the tuis’ sugar-water.

      The better flyers among the pooks (especially Sweety) have had no probs flying to and perching on top of that 4×4 washing line post at times, but hopefully they won’t be keen to do it if it means perching precariously on the edge of the tuis’ sugar-water bowl.

      Now I just have to see how long it takes the tuis to figure out why their usual bowls are just plain water and where their sugar water is. I think they find the sugar-water by smell.

      That seemed to be how they found it when I first started putting bowls out for them. They had no other obvious reason to come to the bowls when they don’t seem to like plain water much.

      Stay tuned for developments.

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  19th May 2020

        I’d be more concerned with working out why everything in that photo has been caked in a layer of pollen dust

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  10. Corky

     /  19th May 2020

    Thinking with Corky:

    How long before the government has to mandate a return to school for all school children? My nieces were telling me their kids classrooms were half filled. I’m guessing in the poorer suburbs Covid is being used as a pretext to keep the kids home because the sleep-ins have been great. I was at the hospital yesterday as a support person…the specialist we were with said similar… the sleeping in and time with the kids was incredible. We were his only patient for the day. The rest of his appointments were by phone…and never before 10.30 am.

    Will the July school holiday proceed as usual? What about NCEA? Knowing this government, exams will be down down further to be fair to all students.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  19th May 2020

      Look for jacinda to relax the rules for an NCEA pass. Is there no problem this woman cant fux?

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      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        😀

        *Dumbed. 😓

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      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        The rules for NCEA were dumbed down a bit further back …like during the 9 years of neglect.
        Something about targets to meet.
        Charter schools were allowed a free pass on everything, even sending students to state schools for classes on ‘hard subjects’

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        • Corky

           /  19th May 2020

          Too,true…and Labour have carried on that fine tradition. Or am I wrong?

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    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      I’m guessing in the poorer suburbs Covid is being used as a pretext to keep the kids home because the sleep-ins have been great. I was at the hospital yesterday as a support person…the specialist we were with said similar… the sleeping in and time with the kids was incredible.

      Seems a reasonable guess that all the poor medical specialists will be enjoying their time at home. There’ve been some reports already from parents & teachers that the non-specialist poor have been happy to send their kids to school because they’re getting a decent feed there, because mums n dads now out of work have been struggling to pay the rent & the bills & keeping up food for the kids has been a problem.

      Especially up North, as usual.

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      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        You truly have no idea about how low socio groupings live, do you.

        The difference is the ‘poor medical specialist’ will be spending quality time with his kids. I doubt his kids are walking the streets…hitting a transformer with a stick to whittle the time away. You missing that simple truth in your rush to show my supposed hypocrisy, double standards and bias.

        [Deleted]…I am not talking about everyone in the areas I mention…just far too many, as time will probably tell.

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        • Gezza

           /  19th May 2020

          You truly have no idea about how low socio groupings live, do you.

          Yeah I do. Know people that live in those neighbourhoods. They’re just up the road a-ways. Admittedly I like to drive thru them quickly & not dally. Not fun walking thru shortcut alleyways in neighbourhoods where pitbull mongrels are barking their heads off & throwing themselves at the 6 foot fences to get at you, whoever you are.

          Just love poking sticks at your stereotyping. Always get a hilarious OTT reaction.

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          • One day when I happened to have the door shut, the dog and I were surprised to see a pitbull (or similar) peering in, looking very amiable as the dog and I gazed back. It ambled around the section for a while, then disappeared.

            Yes, the hardship caused by the lockdown has been immense. The rent and power have to be paid first, groceries are well down the list.

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            • Duker

               /  19th May 2020

              This will be news to you , but an extra 5% unemployment on top of existing number ISNT 1 in 20 .
              Its more like 1 in 50
              Unemployment isnt of the population its of the workforce , so doesnt count those at school or other education , those retired like your self, or those who for their own reasons dont work or look for work.

              Hello reality of 1 in 50 EXTRA persons out of work at say 9% unemployment.

          • Who said it was 1 in 20 of the population at large ? But 9% unemployment would be disastrous for the economy; imagine the UB cost.

            This is straw man argument.

            I’m not retired or near that age.

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          • Corky

             /  19th May 2020

            ”Just love poking sticks at your stereotyping. Always get a hilarious OTT reaction.”

            Well, I suppose from your perspective its an OTT reaction. For me it’s just another confirmation of an attitude that has, and is, rife amongst governments and liberals of all hues, towards Maori – excuses for all types of behaviour and neglect of children. And when that doesn’t work…a little deflection. Those kids you mention, who are sent to school for a decent feed…give me a break. 70% of those would be because of poor budgeting or parents using the system to feed their kids, while well meaning middle class folk work their guts out to provide resources and help to provide that service. That includes the free grocery parcels. Government only provides so much help.

            The other 30% – the honest parents who do their best to provide, and always come up short.. I have NO problem with my money helping them out.

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            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Nor do I. And I believe you are correct that poor budgeting skills will be a feature of some of those cases parents of children with not enuf money to feed them, or clothe or shoe them.

              I’ll go further & say that I reckon a fair number will also be solo parents whose fathers (sometimes, based on my own persinal experience, more than one) aren’t around or don’t help out whether they’re working or on a benefit.

              And also that some of those kids will have been conceived & popped out into the world without much thought as to who is going to pay to raise them; into families whose belief is kids are a joy & a natural right for every fertile female of the tribe & everybody should want to pay for them. It’s simply mean & nasty white folks who don’t.

              I know these people exist. I’ve met them. And listened to them. Hone even sounds like that.

              But the thing is, it’s only now you’re starting to say “Hey, it’s not ALL poor folks I was talking about”.

              And where do you get your 70%? from?

            • It comes from the same place as the three Pak & Save workers who stopped putting down the floor stickers ( which were put down weeks ago) and ran panicking towards him when he was scratching in the Lotto shop (which now don’t have the scratching tables or have them covered)

            • Corky

               /  19th May 2020

              ”But the thing is, it’s only now you’re starting to say “Hey, it’s not ALL poor folks I was talking about”.

              That is incorrect.

  11. Duker

     /  19th May 2020

    Had a laugh with Farrars new proposal, a paywall for certain topics.
    “So data posts and exclusive polling on topical issues are of most interest”

    Exclusive …..hmmm. He wants to sell the results of his polling firm , nothing wrong with that.
    And he polls his pool of customers to find out ……way to go

    But why would he, some would ask.(me) …..because Nationals donations have dropped like stone and they are saving money by winding down their ‘polling of topical issues’ . Farrars other clients may be spending less too.
    In Keys heyday he wanted it more or less every week, as a money trader he made decisions based on the data and he did politics the same way . And it worked.

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  12. Alan Wilkinson

     /  19th May 2020

    Govt persists in suppression of current suicide statistics:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12333030

    Chief Coroner says numbers are down during lockdown but refuses to release them in case they go up.

    Reply
    • Griff.

       /  19th May 2020

      Oh dear a conspiracy gibber from the right .
      How unusual.
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/chief-coroner-shuts-down-false-reports-lockdown-suicide-surge

      “In the interests of addressing this, I can confirm based on the provisional numbers I have, this is incorrect.

      “The provisional trend suggests the suicide rate was lower during the Alert Level 4 period than the 33 days prior to it (22 February – 25 March 2020).

      “The suicide rate during Alert Level 4 was also lower than the rate for the same period from 2008 to 2020.”

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  19th May 2020

        It would be irresponsible to release provisional numbers for such a short period of time, or to associate these figures with the pandemic, as the numbers can rise and fall for many reasons.

        Unless full data is released the many reasons will never be identifiable. Absolute b.s. from the Chief Coroner.

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    • duperez

       /  19th May 2020

      Is there any tiny smidgen inside you that appreciates the wisdom of putting out, (or not) of figures and details because they don’t show the true overall picture?
      I do accept there are political perspectives to be had on everything in life.

      Reply
      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        Chief Coroner is a Judge so makes her own decisions and likely the government didnt know about the details either

        Reply
        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  19th May 2020

          Given our present clueless, useless and entirely missing in action Minister of Health I am sure you are correct. However decisions ignored are just as much the responsibility of the Government.

          Reply
      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  19th May 2020

        More b.s. dups. You will never show the true overall picture if you suppress the data. That is exactly how you hide it.

        Reply
    • Duker

       /  19th May 2020

      The answer is
      “Treating 200 million litres per day would require a new water treatment plant to be built, which could take years.”
      Waikato River water is of no use to most of Auckland as their supply is limited to Waitakere water.
      NZ population increased by 0.5 mill in last 6 years , a large amount of that was Auckland.
      The fastest increase in history.
      This may have been the driest 6 months in last century ( or longer).
      No one builds these types of systems for the 1 in 100 year event

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        What you may not know was WC head honcho told Peter Williams a different story by leaving a few facts out when previously interviewed by Peter Williams. Take everything with a grain of salt.

        Reply
    • duperez

       /  19th May 2020

      I won’t be tuning in. Is it talkback? I’d love to be listening in when a caller gets through and asks, “Have you made peace with your son yet?”

      Of course it’d be a real arsehole, lowlife, immature, cheap shot sort of thing to do. Stuntish enough to fit what the station is trying to accomplish. John’d be able to relate to that approach though.

      Reply
      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        Is still doing “family values” …all that sort of thing

        Reply
      • Corkty

         /  19th May 2020

        ”I won’t be tuning in. Is it talkback? I’d love to be listening in when a caller gets through and asks, “Have you made peace with your son yet?”

        Yep..National Socialist Radio would be the better fit for you. You have the right attitude.

        Reply
        • You have been told untold times what National Socialist means, but you still keep on using the name which is insulting to the station and anyone who suffered under the Nazi regime/

          Reply
        • Corky

           /  19th May 2020

          Please go away.

          Reply
          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            You’re replying to yourself.

            Don’t listen to yourself, Corks!

            With

            gone AWOL on us, I’d miss you too much.

            Reply
          • Corky

             /  19th May 2020

            Apparently I’m replying to myself..and not Kitty. Well, I never. Must be the wordpress hoodoo so many on this blog have been strickened with. 🙄

            Reply
            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              No. The Random WordPress Wilkinson Effect takes the comment you entered into the text box – after you hit the Reply button under someone else’s comment – but instead of posting it underneath their comment, indented – for some obscure reason it posts it at the left margin as a completely new comment unrelated to the thread you were in.

              If you were replying to Kitty your comment would have appeared underneath hers, indented.

              Look, if it’s too technical, Corks, don’t worry about it. Just do your best. You’re certainly not the only one here who ends up talking to themselves. Altho not too many tell themselves to go away.

            • Corky

               /  19th May 2020

              Such a thesis about trivialities.. Maybe it is a little too technical for me.

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              Sorry. I tried to explain the RWW effect as simply as possible in one paragraph. I can see why you adore Trump.

        • duperez

           /  19th May 2020

          If they took my brain out, stuck in an arrogant bumptious little little twerp chip, gave me an insecurity gene bigger than a Mt Eden cafe and changed my appearance a little I could even get to play Little Johnny. Wouldn’t want the memory function interfered with though, the idea of having a massive German fly me by helicopter to a huge mansion across the harbour to a big hui I’d want to remember.

          Reply
          • Corky

             /  19th May 2020

            Whatever happened with that case, Duperez? Amanda Banks…can’t quite remember the rest?

            Reply
    • Griff.

       /  19th May 2020

      Is that the answer to why he tried to make is mistress get an abortion ?
      opps thats right
      Conservative means do what as I say not what I do
      Ask his son about this.

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        ”Conservative means do what as I say not what I do.”

        Socialists have always coveted that type of power, Griff. Unfortunately you need and work ethic and lots of money. And maybe the intelligence to not have an unwanted child eventually leeching off the state like so many parents of a certain political persuasion.

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  13. Duker

     /  19th May 2020

    This should put the fake news peddled by some to bed ….you know who you are

    “Covid 19 coronavirus: Fewer suicides during lockdown level 4 – Chief Coroner
    ‘”However, there have been concerning reports of a reported rise in suicide rates during alert level 4. In the interests of addressing this, I can confirm based on the provisional numbers I have, this is incorrect.”
    The provisional trend suggested that the suicide rate was lower during the 33 days of level 4 than in the preceding 33 days (February 22 – March 25), and lower than the same period for every year since 2008.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12333030
    The normal number of suicides is around 12-13 per week

    Road accident deaths – down, work accident deaths -down

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  14. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Just a reminder

    Reply
  15. Duker

     /  19th May 2020

    Guardian goes full Orwell on its ‘language change’
    1.) “climate emergency” or “climate crisis” to be used instead of “climate change”
    2.) “climate science denier” or “climate denier” to be used instead of “climate sceptic”
    3.) Use “global heating” not “global warming”
    4.) “greenhouse gas emissions” is preferred to “carbon emissions” or “carbon dioxide emissions”
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/16/guardian-language-changes-climate-environment

    Reply
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th May 2020

      Why are you surprised Duker. The Guardian is the home of Lefty crooks with no conscience whatsoever.

      Reply
      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        Yes. Its unreadable. Its gone so far woke that its now ‘the land of the midnight sun’ …rather a good line if I do say so ..

        Reply
    • duperez

       /  19th May 2020

      That’s just how things roll. Remember when someone thought there might be a bit of a problem with housing, a housing crisis actually, when those things simply became the ‘comprehensive housing plan’ continually used by ministers and the rest of caucus in 2016? Certainly no crisis or even problem.

      Amy Adams became Minister for Social housing and Nick Smith’s title was changed from Building and Housing to Minister for Building and Construction. I think Smith had been the Minister for Discovering New Land for Building Houses after he came across out 500 hectares of land residential development in Auckland. 😶

      Reply
    • Griff.

       /  19th May 2020

      The Guardian is only supporting the overwhelming scientific consensus on global warming.
      97% percent of all publishing climate scientists agree with them.
      You can of course go with fringe nutbars like Roy “god would not allow it ” Spencer.
      That makes you just another fringe nutbar to be ignored.

      Reply
      • Duker

         /  19th May 2020

        97%….not even peer reviewed or even verified as that’s how Oreskes works
        Even Cook doesn’t even claim’ publishing climate scientists’
        Stick to the ‘over 80%’ number

        Reply
        • Griff.

           /  19th May 2020

          Yip fringe nutbars .

          Reply
        • Griff.

           /  19th May 2020

          The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change
          Naomi Oreskes*
          Science 03 Dec 2004:
          Vol. 306, Issue 5702, pp. 1686
          DOI: 10.1126/science.1103618

          Science, also widely referred to as Science Magazine,[2] is the peer-reviewed academic journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science[3][4] (AAAS) and one of the world’s top academic journals.[5]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_(journal)

          fringe nutbars…..

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          • Duker

             /  20th May 2020

            Walked into the trap I set .
            Science has a peer previewed section and a non peer reviewed section.
            ESSAYS ON SCIENCE AND SOCIETY is one of those NPR sections
            https://science.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702

            Thats where Oreskes and her class of students who did the background work had the ‘results’ published.

            The simple answer for simple minds is not all articles in major science journals are peer reviewed . Regular readers understand which parts arent. Under the Essays section should have been the giveaway

            The IPCC reports are full of all sorts of published but not peer reviewed stuff….junk science effectively

            Like I said stick to the Cook research and the 80% of the lower level of scientists he uses.
            Sorry to shatter your bubble , but its a good example of knowing how scientific you really are or as is ‘more likely’ are captured by the dogma like you did for Douglas. Most likely an ad hominen diversion to cover your grievous error instead

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  16. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Is Ardern onto another vote winner?

    The Government is giving “active consideration” to additional holidays to allow Kiwis to visit tourism operations in New Zealand.

    The Prime Minister said that was one idea being considered to provide an economic boost to the country’s embattled tourism sector during a visit to Rotorua’s Te Puia on Tuesday.

    Asked whether, in the wake of Easter and Anzac Day falling within the earlier lockdown periods, additional holiday time was being considered, Jacinda Ardern said the Government is thinking of ideas “to encourage New Zealanders to come and see their own back yards”.

    “Those are things we’re giving active consideration to.”

    Ardern was joined by Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis and Minister for Māori Development Nanaia Mahuta for a tour of the Māori Arts and Crafts Institute in the wake of an announcement of a $7.6m funding injection for the venture.

    “We’ve opened up for New Zealanders to see their own backyards and I encourage them to do that,” Ardern said.

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  17. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    So, is Barr the next Trump appointee to be out on his ear thru the White House revolving door for not swallowing & just regurgitating Trump’s BS?

    Barr dispels ‘Obamagate’ claims to Trump’s surprise
    https://play.stuff.co.nz/details/_6157563624001

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  18. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    Bridges slams Treasury officials for being sick & taking leave instead of showing up for a grilling

    National Leader Simon Bridges is slamming the Treasury for its “no show” at the Epidemic Response Committee hearing this morning.

    Treasury boss Caralee McLiesh was meant to answer questions, but she was sick today, Bridges said this morning. Bryan Chapple, Acting Deputy Secretary Covid-19 Economic Response and AoG Economic Pillar, was also mean to front up, but he was on leave, Bridges said. The committee was informed about both of these things this morning, before the committee sat.

    Bridges said this was “entirely unacceptable” given this is the committee’s chance to scrutinise the Budget.

    But in a statement McLiesh said she had appeared before the Epidemic Response Committee twice previously and would front up to MPs on another committee next month.

    In a separate press release this morning, National’s finance spokesman Paul Goldsmith said the committee had been organised for days. “There are 565 permanent staff at the Treasury. Despite the Clerk of the committee requesting another representative, not one person has been made available.

    He said this comes on top of Finance Minister Grant Robertson withdrawing from appearing at the committee last minute when he was due to appear last Wednesday.

    “A number of serious market commentators have made time to appear at today’s committee – all wanting to know how the Treasury came to its forecasts, which appear highly optimistic.”

    After the committee’s hearing this morning, Treasury released a statement about the no-show. “Secretary to the Treasury Caralee McLiesh is unwell and Struan Little, Deputy Secretary Budget and Public Investment, is on leave this week.

    “We contacted the committee clerk early this morning to advise that we were unable to attend and have been working with the clerk to find an alternative time later in the week to appear before the committee.” The statement said that the Treasury has also offered to provide written answers to questions they may have in the meantime.

    Act leader David Seymour agreed with Bridges when it comes to Treasury’s no-show this morning. “This is now an emerging pattern for ‘the most open and transparent government in New Zealand’s history’,” he said. “The Opposition can’t hold the Government to account if officials and ministers won’t publicly front up.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12332997

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    • Duker

       /  19th May 2020

      They needed senior people to attend and couldnt just do an ask around the office to see who could spend an hour or two.
      On the other hand public servants have waffled and thumbed their noses at parliament for decades, so isnt changing for the Inquisitor.
      Another point, Bridges was supposed to investigating the government not bringing the usual National part crisis actors along for some mutual congrats …Bagrie, NZ Initiative etc

      Hint for Simon, when you find that instead having the country hanging on your every word they have dug an open grave for you and are waiting for you to fall/be pushed into it.
      Try something different !

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        Controversy over Government no-shows at the Epidemic Response Committee deepened on Tuesday night after Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis decided to cancel his scheduled appearance.

        Davis cancelled his appearance on Tuesday afternoon, citing a regional meeting, followed by an apparently unmovable Facebook live event with Finance Minister Grant Robertson.

        Davis’s office wouldn’t even comment about the cancellation, referring queries to the office of Chris Hipkins, the leader of the House.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300016164/kelvin-davis-cancels-on-epidemic-response-committee-after-treasury-noshow

        Hmm. Perhaps it IS becoming fashionable? I can understand why Kelvin might want to give it a miss. He tends to choke badly when challenged to explain anything to do with his portfolios, in English, off the marae. Might be hoping Simon will soon be out of the picture?

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  19. Corky

     /  19th May 2020

    According to Banksie, a spill is on. Todd Muller is the name he’s been told. The dagger of RIGHTEOUSNESS will be used on Simon next Tuesday. Banksie is scathing of National MPs.

    Apparently this Mueller chap was a message boy in the Bolger government.

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      Righto. Next Tuesday should tell us if Banksy’s plugged in or just shootin’ his mouth off. 👍🏼

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        I just reported what he said…a little candy for you. Apparently it came from the Labour Party ( Auckland). Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Let’s see if they dish it out by the shovelful.😁

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  19th May 2020

          Wouldn’t be surprised if Labour MPs are all told by Ardern to refrain from commenting / crowing about it. If they can’t claim credit for anything else of note at least they can then claim they have good manners & didn’t kick a wounded man in the head when he was going down.

          Reply
    • Gezza

       /  19th May 2020

      Yup. Looks like it’s (almost) official:

      The National Party caucus may have had a sleepless night after Monday’s catastrophic polling, but former Prime Minister Jim Bolger believes he has a solution.

      Bolger told RNZ’s Checkpoint that MP Todd Muller had the attributes to be National’s next leader.

      Muller, who worked in Bolger’s office when he was Prime Minister, is understood to have the numbers to roll Simon Bridges, should its caucus make that decision when it meets next Tuesday.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/417022/former-pm-jim-bolger-backs-todd-muller-for-next-national-leader

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  19th May 2020

        5:21 pm today ( RNZ) . Yep..more official. 🔱

        Reply
        • Duker

           /  19th May 2020

          Yep…another Colmar Brunton poll out next Sun….but my bet is Bridges holds on .

          Reply
          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            He’s stubborn & deluded enuf to try to do so but now it’d be hopeless. Fatally wounded by a well-regarded former National PM. Even those who might have been disposed to support him will see the carnage for him AND the Party ahead if he stays & won’t be able to bear watching him get shredded into strips by the media & his own colleagues.

            He’s gone.

            Reply
          • Corky

             /  19th May 2020

            Good on you, I like a man who puts his balls on the line. I personally wouldn’t have a clue. But I’m with Banksie. They should let Simon be. Let the economy deal with Jacinda first…then knife Simon. Rest assured, halfwit NZers will need to be hit in the pocket before the fog clears regarding Jacinda.

            Reply
            • Gezza

               /  19th May 2020

              Prefer women myself, but I don’t judge others.

            • Corky

               /  19th May 2020

              Good for you. Unfortunately your comments are a great insight into your character…or lack thereof.🤔

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              I doubt it. You strike me as someone with such low EI you aren’t capable of judging a person’s character when they’re complex, as many people are. Your perceptions are far too narrow & egocentric & your own personality is your only reference frame & yardstick.

          • Gezza

             /  19th May 2020

            Imo, Bloger won’t have just winged this off his own bat, or in collusion with a faction in National’s caucus. I reckon this had to have been sanctioned by National GHQ.

            Reply
  20. Gezza

     /  19th May 2020

    A man has died after being shot by police in Taranaki this afternoon.

    In a statement, police said the man, in his 50s, had driven from a property in Brixton, near Waitara, in a state of distress about 3.40pm.

    He was believed to be in possession of a firearm.

    (Banner headline said: Police have shot dead a man in Taranaki after he presented a firearm at them. More soon) Waitara’s a few k’s North of my old stomping ground of New Plymouth.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/300016112/man-dies-after-being-shot-by-police-near-waitara-taranaki

    I sure wouldn’t recommend waving a firearm about when our police are present these days.

    Reply

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