Extra public holiday proposal squashed by NZ First

The Government (or at least a part of the Government) had been considering more public holidays, but that idea seems to have been squashed by NZ First due to the extra cost to businesses already struggling from the economic impact of Covid-19.

Stuff: Government pondering extra public holidays to encourage domestic tourism

The Government is giving “active consideration” to additional holidays to get Kiwis out spending in order to boost tourism operations.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said that was one idea being considered to provide an economic boost to the country’s embattled tourism sector during a visit to Rotorua’s Te Puia on Tuesday.

Asked whether, in the wake of Easter and Anzac Day falling within the earlier lockdown periods, additional holiday time was being considered, Ardern said the Government is thinking of ideas “to encourage New Zealanders to come and see their own back yards”.

“Those are things we’re giving active consideration to.”

But Winston Peters seems not to have been a part of those considerations:

Weve been asked whether NZF supports an xtra public holiday. Our answer after serious thought is – no.  NZ has just been through weeks of lockdown – in some ways an enforced holiday. We understand how Covid put business owners under real financial strain.

We know that business owners are not paying themselves so they can keep their staff going and many who are paying their bills, but not paying themselves. That is why we can’t support extra public holidays – they come at a cost to businesses and workers.

It’s another day of no production, when production is well down due to Covid. For many businesses it’s a day of no income when they need to pay their bills. Holidays are great, but it will cost small businesses, and will cost 1000s of workers their jobs – NZF understands that.

I’m surprised those considering extra public holidays didn’t understand this.

I don’t know why extra holidays were even being considered. I think that most employees would prefer to get their normal hours and normal pay back. I certainly would.

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  1. Kimbo

     /  20th May 2020

    Was bad enough when they “Mondayised” Waitangi and Anzac Day under the last government. They are tied to historic events that occurred on particular days so little, if any justification, compared to the traditional rationale for Christmas and Easter which were seasonal feasts in the Hebrew sabbath tradition…which can be celebrated however one likes in our post-Christian secular multicultural nation.

    But along with an extra week of annual leave a few years ago, it is the same story for the productive sector – death by a thousand cuts.

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    • Duker

       /  20th May 2020

      Anzac day commemorations always happen on the 25th , as they did this year ( in a reduced way). What was different was a public Holiday on the Monday. If 25th was Friday , no public holiday on different day.
      Christmas is always celebrated on 25th no matter what day of week it occurs.
      Your reasoning is a complete shambles,

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      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        We’ll see. She had more to say about it on her Daily Show today. I switched on telly thinking it was on a music channel but it was still on TV1 from last night’s *news*. I wasn’t interested enuf to watch her for long, but she’s certainly a slick performer – quite the slippery one at times – does that salesperson patter with tricky ones.

        It’s all getting a bit “samey” for much of the show. She was making it sound like Ashley is in charge & she’s just doing what he says today, in the bits I saw. Clarke might be getting jealous?

        I figured the highlights would get picked up by the reporters/repeaters in her fan club.

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      • Kimbo

         /  20th May 2020

        Indeed, Anzac Day was celebrated on 25 April and Waitangi Day on February 6 as they always have been, However, as per my reference to Mondayising which you’ve typically chosen to ignore, if you also have the possibility of an adjacent week day that is not the exact date as a holiday, it inevitably detracts from the didactic and celebratory purpose of the day. How people choose to celebrate those days is their business, but as they are public holidays, the public purpose – memorialising the particular date due to the special and seminal event that occurred on them – should be preserved and strengthened as much as possible.

        But as you think my reasoning is a “complete (what? Not even “partial”, “substantial” or “overwhelming”?) shambles” I take solace that you seem not to have understood the term “Mondayised” so your judgement in the matter is not one that troubles me.

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        • Duker

           /  20th May 2020

          I did consider that, and showed with Waitangi Day Anzac Day and Christmas Day that it doesnt.
          Some holidays both observance and Holiday occurs on the Monday are the provincial holidays ….see the difference.
          Its a non issue
          What is far more interesting to discuss , and more to calibre of your abilities is the proposal to ‘fix’ the date of the western observance of Easter by the major Christian churches.

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          • Kimbo

             /  20th May 2020

            Appealing to the supposed similarities with Christmas and weekdays immediately following, the lunar-determined Easter and moveable provincial holidays overlooks the opinion, maybe fact, that in the current national climate and culture not all holidays are equal. Including as a genuine focal point that unites us as a nation.

            I’ve mentioned Christmas and Easter in our secular cultures are holidays where the vestiges of the original purposes of celebrating the Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection of Christ are no longer observed by the majority. No problem, and that is their prerogative to enjoy the holiday as the beginning of the Summer/New Year break free from religion if they want.

            In contrast Waitangi, and especially Anzac are currently the most weighty and, for want of a better word, sacrosanct celebrations in the public calendar that, like Christmas, Boxing Day, New Years Day and January 2 are tied to specific dates. The ToW was first signed February 6 1840, and the Anzacs first waded ashore at Gallipoli on April 25 1915, and those dates deserve to be celebrated without (as I posted before) dilution.

            Some may be wearied by the politics of Waitangi, but surprisingly, or maybe not as it is an alternative “National Day”, Anzac has been gaining in popularity, including observance at dawn services. The specific day is about celebrating the event, and the purpose of the holiday is, if they so choose, to give the public the time in which to do so. Hence a holiday on another adjacent day is incongruous and counterproductive to that nation-celebrating purpose. IMHO.

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  2. Gezza

     /  20th May 2020

    I don’t know why extra holidays were even being considered. I think that most employees would prefer to get their normal hours and normal pay back. I certainly would.

    Well, look at who’s all gushy excited by the idea & thinks it would be nice & would encourage NZers to go & see their own country,. And look at how many of their political crew have ever established & run a business & employed staff from their profits. And have any idea what the cost to such employers of more holidays is.

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    • Duker

       /  20th May 2020

      Absurd non -sense as usual. Adern said there are ‘pros and cons’ – which is true. End of story.
      Yet you are now worked up over comments that didnt happen like you think they did. Those bird brains in your garden could show you a thing or two.

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      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        We’ll see. She had more to say about it on her Daily Show today. I switched on telly thinking it was on a music channel but it was still on TV1 from last night’s *news*. I wasn’t interested enuf to watch her for long, but she’s certainly a slick performer – quite the slippery one at times – does that salesperson patter with tricky ones.

        It’s all getting a bit “samey” for much of the show. She was making it sound like Ashley is in charge & she’s just doing what he says today, in the bits I saw. Clarke might be getting jealous?

        I figured the highlights would get picked up by the reporters/repeaters in her fan club.

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        • It’s a daft idea. It would have to be a week to make it worth bothering. Does she really have so few clues about business that she thinks that businesses can stand another enforced break after (in many cases) seven weeks or having to pay staff double time?

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          • Duker

             /  20th May 2020

            No and No . It was a question asked of the PM and she said there are pros and cons.
            Dont you have a Cat charity or something that needs your attention ?

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  3. Fight4nz

     /  20th May 2020

    Aren’t the businesses in the tourism sector who still have no customers and income employers too? Or are they not the sort of employer we want to support?

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    • Gezza

       /  20th May 2020

      Yeah, they are. Good point. Spose it’s a question of how many days holidays we’rectakking about. I’m not one for taking a mad dash to & from the airport to spend a day or two in one location & come feeling like it was a rush & I need a holiday.

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  4. David

     /  20th May 2020

    Absurd idea, we have just had a month on our chuffs and we are facing a doubling in unemployment I doubt any private sector workers with bills to pay will appreciate this dopey idea any more than their bosses will.
    As for the fools saying its good for tourism well you your staff are paid at least twice their usual rate making the day unprofitable anyway.
    The staggering stupidity of this government never ceases to amaze. They just see it as a day off for bureaucrats so its of no cost that they are aware of.

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    • Duker

       /  20th May 2020

      Great idea in some countries like Germany where they have a short time program for companies where the business pays for 4 days and the state pays for the 5th day. That’s to keep the workforce employed if the work had dropped off.
      Another system used in Australia which is very common still, the RDO or rostered day off per month. Which varies each day per company , as whole country having same day off is nutts.
      Clearly in the Aussie system is extra hours per week are worked to make up the one day per month.
      Simple answers to the moaners when you put the thinking cap on.
      Reading above comments it’s clear who have the closed small minds which are terrified of something different

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