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  1. lurcher1948

     /  20th May 2020

    I have installed the NZ Covid Tracking app,have you? for the good of the community

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    • Corky

       /  20th May 2020

      Good of the community!? Since when have you been worried about the community, Lurchy?
      I mean, I post consistently about crime victims much to the bemusement of some. I also believe the innocent should be able to carry firearms to protect themselves from bad people.
      I also provide health information for anyone interested.

      Apart from your blog reports regarding knuckledraggers and your denigration of talkback ..remind me about your core values.💚❌🤔

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      • lurcher1948

         /  20th May 2020

        I get 3 upticks and you get 3 down ticks to my comment says it all,proves that the communities health isn’t a priority with the [deleted]

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        • lurcher1948

           /  20th May 2020

          OK PG,i will change the ending,to(those fine right wing gun toting racist gentlemen who don’t care about anyone other than themselves )

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          • Gezza

             /  20th May 2020

            Smart move, neighbour. Kerp up the god wrok.

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          • It would be better if you didn’t generalise. There are a lot of variations in people across the political spectrum.

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            • Corky

               /  20th May 2020

              Quite true, Pete. Not all conservative gun lovers would want to pack a Magnum pistol if we were legal. I personally would be quite happy packing a ‘lady Glock.’

    • Post on the app: https://yournz.org/2020/05/20/covid-19-contact-tracing-app/

      It is “designed to support rather than replace existing contact tracing processes”.

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  2. NOEL

     /  20th May 2020

    So he knows who leaked. And he had to decide to appeal of not now. And not appealing would mean costs apply. And is who leaked Bennett or Tolly.
    Geez today’s media.No

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300016214/winston-peters-pursues-court-action-claims-he-knows-who-leaked-pension-details

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    • A post on this: https://yournz.org/2020/05/20/peters-claims-he-now-knows-who-leaked-his-super-overpayment/

      peters says he knows \who leaked but that us not the subject of the appeal, he is appealing the application of the law. The leaker wasn’t identified in his trial.

      This is veru confusing.

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      • Duker

         /  20th May 2020

        Let me simplfy it all.
        Peters won his case – his privacy was breached said the judge, however as the ‘direct leaker’ to the media wasnt identified he didnt win damages . A lot of cases are like that.
        The Stuff and other stories focus on the damages side and say he ‘lost’. Thats not true as the Judge found in his favour on the legal principle

        This part of statement was significant and is obvious to any who reads the Judge decision
        “Within government and the Civil Service no less than 42 individuals knew about this one case.
        He says the matter was resolved quickly as he didnt dispute it and paid it back and yet it spread like wildfire into the political branch. Once it got into the beehive it would go to the media.
        In my view the MSD is liable as it deliberately spread his private information outside the department, the position they took it that it was ‘no surprises’ allowed them to do so is legal nonsense. This is likely to be the area that his appeal will focus on

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        • “Once it got into the beehive it would go to the media.”

          I haven’t seen any evidence that the leak to media was from the Beehive. Have you?

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          • Duker

             /  20th May 2020

            Soper said so.
            [73]Mr Soper was of the view the disclosure was politically motivated. In response to Mr Henry’s question of whether it was someone involved in the political world, the New Zealand National Party (National Party), Mr Soper said he had been on record as saying in written columns where he believed the leak came from.
            https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/barry-soper-no-doubt-national-leaked-peters-dirt/
            He testified under oath.

            Havent seen any evidence ? I thought you were on top of all the details of this case

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            • That’s not evidence, it’s his opinion absent any evidence given in court or in the linked media article.

              It may be that Soper knows who it is but can’t out a source, which would mean he shouldn’t have told anyone, including Peters. Even intimating generally seems a bit suspect to me, unless he doesn’t know who the source is and is simply speculating.

            • Duker

               /  20th May 2020

              Its evidence …. you are wanting proof…. why keep moving the goalposts? You said ‘havent seen any evidence’, it may be not what you accept but doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

              Any way it was a more general direction of the leak – Beehive- rather than a particular floor and a particular desk.

            • evidence – “the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid”

              A belief or guess without facts or information to back it up is not evidence.

            • “With respect to Mr Soper, his evidence that, in his opinion, the information was deliberately leaked as an attempt by Mr Peters’ political opponents to damage his credibility and to do what the Prime Minister wanted, which was “to cut out the middleman”, namely NZ First, is speculative.

              It is not the opinion of an expert based on established fact. Without direct evidence of the original source of the disclosure, Mr Soper’s opinion is speculative.

              Mr Soper’s opinion that it must have been a political opponent (and inferentially) someone from the National Party or a National Party supporter lacks a proven factual basis. It does not satisfy the requirement for admissibility as expert opinion evidence.

              Even if it was generally correct that the disclosure was politically motivated, it may not have been disclosed, for example, by a National Party member or supporter. It could also have been disclosed by a Green Party supporter aggrieved at the public backlash against Ms Turei following her disclosure of fraud. ”

              PETERS v BENNETT & ORS [2020] NZHC 761 [20 April 2020]

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              That’s not evidence, it’s his opinion absent any evidence given in court or in the linked media article.

              In the legal sense, Soper’s testimony IS evidence. But it’s not STRONG evidence, it’s no probative & it’s not determinative.

            • Duker

               /  20th May 2020

              As Gezza says it’s not direct evidence, but still legally evidence from the longest serving member of the gallery.
              The judge has erred in only assessing Super against scientific experts standards, it’s common for even medical and scientific experts to give ‘their opinion’ based on their experience.
              Recently was the bizarre case of a medical expert giving evidence in an infant death trial in Auckland that the death in his opinion was highly unlikely to be accidental. The defence countered with a reserach paper written by the same doctor of an infants death in the same circumstances which was proven to be accidental (there was video).
              Somehow the judge has determined that expert opinion can only be factual.
              Peters appeal will in due course find some errors in law from the judgement…he will take that as a win

            • “The judge has erred”

              That is yet to be determined, and will only be determined if the case actually gets to an appeal court.

              Talking of expert opinion: Chapman Tripp comment

              The judgment is helpful because it shows that the tort of invasion of privacy cannot be used to stop people disclosing information for a proper purpose. Either there can be no reasonable expectation that such disclosure won’t occur or the disclosure of those facts will not be deemed to be highly offensive.

              It also confirms that invasion of privacy claims need to identify the person who made the disclosure rather than seek to ascribe blame for an anonymous source, and provides useful pointers on the level of damages that can be awarded.

              That said, we consider that the Court’s reasoning could have been clearer in two respects:

              – at times the Court appeared to merge the reasonable expectation of privacy element with the highly offensive element. The Court of Appeal in Hosking v Runting was clear that they are separate elements, and
              – the Court could have more clearly rejected Peters’ talk of a “duty to keep private” facts where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Such language imports concepts of negligence, which the Court of Appeal in Hosking v Runting held should not happen.

              So the judgment of Venning J is largely agreed with by Chapman Tripp, and is backed by a higher court finding from Hosking v Runting.

              That’s a lot more independent legal expertise than the opinion of a journalist with a long association with Peters, or an anonymous person commenting on a blog.

          • Duker

             /  21st May 2020

            Thats great that more qualified people than me at Chapman Tripp have provided their commentary on ‘how the Judge saw it’
            They dont seem to comment on Sopers expertise
            Its interesting that they as well find some details of the judges reasoning ‘lacking’
            They as well go to the heart of matter
            ” invasion of privacy cannot be used to stop people disclosing information for a proper purpose.”
            Its absurd that legally protected information at MSD ( or IRD or ACC) can be disclosed to politicians under ‘no surprises’ and thats a so called proper purpose. The judge is on very weak ground there.

            Tolley also told her husband as well as her sister , but the Judge doesnt seem to have gone into why her husband or sister had proper purposes, but I dont think the leak to journalists came from them, as evidence and common sense pointed to the beehive.

            Its to go to appeal of course, and Henry has a track record of overturning decisions in Peters favour. Famously in the Wine Box , overturned the former Chief Justice , and said he made in error in law regarding taxable processes, the famous ‘passing the cheques around the table’ wasnt a legitimate commercial process.
            Im sure Peters will challenge the Judges decision around no surprises being a ‘proper purpose’…. and in my view will win as its untenable.

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  3. Gezza

     /  20th May 2020

    Delighted, I say delighted to announce that the tuis had no difficulty at all finding their new pook-proof sugar-water bowl.

    Starting with Boss Tui here, at 7.45 am on a very nippy, 5 deg C near-frost, clear blue sky morning at Pookden Manor.

    My hypothesis that the tuis find their sugar water by smell is looking well-supported by observational evidence. The tuis arrive in the tree, ignore the red and blue now-plain water bowls in their familiar locations, and hop directly to the branches nearest the new sugar-water bowl before alighting to partake of the good stuff.

    Thank you
    That is all
    Sir Gerald Ormsby Battersea Bradders, PC, CD, RSVP
    🐧 Avian Aviation Authority 🐧

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  20th May 2020

    That fine upstanding rightwing host of the National Party Magic Radio Peter Williams says he signs in for covid-19 tracing as Mickey Mouse….what a fine rightwing gentleman,salt of the earth, your average neanderthal type….stuff the community I’m alright Jack,right Williams

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    • duperez

       /  20th May 2020

      Peter Williams signs in as Mickey Mouse? I’m sure there are many who would see that as perfectly appropriate. 😊

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        • Gezza

           /  20th May 2020

          Good Lord, Sir Alan.

          Now you’re a gossip addict.

          I blame that ghastly Trump blighter for getting you hooked on gossip.

          Yours etc
          Sir Gerald

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  20th May 2020

            I only visit the sewer in order to cleanse it, Sir Gerald. There are others who go there to take a bath.

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            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              They’d be lucky to find any room in the sewer – with that big lump Trump & his shiftier acolytes taking up all the available room.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              You seem to have taken a wrong turn down there, Sir Gerald. The gossip column sewer is a separate system entirely from the White House effluent line which admittedly clogged somewhat with the corpses of fired senior bureaucrats and assorted staffers.

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              Au contraire, Sir Alan. Being mesmerised by Trump’s sanitised transcripts has made you forget that Trump promised to drain THE SWAMP. In your addled state you fail to notice that he has attempted to do so by turning the White House into a SEWER.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              Your terminology is deficient as usual for you when you cast in Trumpy’s direction, Sir Gerald. The correct noun is DRAIN.

        • Corky

           /  20th May 2020

          Quote:

          ”The NFL game was a PR nightmare for DeGeneres, who was slammed for sitting next to Bush, with many attacking the talk show host – a prominent gay, liberal and outspoken LGBT activist – for cosying up with the former Republican president.”

          How fugging sad are these people, Alan? It’s all about facades. And when those eventually crumble, we are LEFT with the reality: they are grubby;nasty hypocrites…

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  20th May 2020

            Yep, utterly vicious and nasty – the Lefty cancelling class. Never happier than when pissing on someone from their self-declared moral high ground.

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          • Duker

             /  20th May 2020

            And the [deleted derogatory reference] dont turn on some one as well ?
            McCain, Romney Muller Comey

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              These were all political operators deliberately messing in the kitchen and getting heat, not some member of the public set on by a pack of raving Lefties determined to wreck their lives.

            • Duker

               /  20th May 2020

              De Generes was a member of the public? She’s a lbgt activist ‘from the self declared moral high ground’ and Hollywood elites as well….oh dear foot in mouth day again

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              The Hollywood elites are at the forefront of the Lefty cancel brigades as are the LGBT activists. That’s why it is so illuminating to watch them eating their own. The only.mouth with foot in it is yours.

            • Duker

               /  20th May 2020

              So not a member of the public then.
              A simple oopps will suffice

  5. Corky

     /  20th May 2020

    Here’s a SIMILAR situation I experienced in Tauranga recently. A cuz and I went to look at a house. This house was situated in a very unusual street. The street didn’t have a name, just one word followed by some numbers. The entrance looked( or had been made to look) like an ordinary driveway, flanked by mature trees and a pseudo wild greenery look. It was situated between two ordinary homes. The street was only a few hundred metres long, and had a traffic island in the middle of the cul-de sac at the end. It also had bushes and tropical-like plantings. It was a completely different world down that street. The houses where beautiful..but not mansions.

    We got out of our car to look at the house for sale. We did not enter the property, even though the house was empty. I turned around to see half the street had come out onto their front lawn. One chap called out ”can we help you.” ”No,” was the reply my cuzzie gave.
    Some monkey sounds came from a house across the street. But none of those assembled laughed. They slowly dispersed as we continued to talk. They made it obvious they didn’t want our type there…even though we had rocked up in a BMW SUV. My Cuz said the house was right, but he had to think of the kids and wife, and the atmosphere they would be subjected to.

    Nice white liberal folk. They love their Maoris…just not down their street, thank you very much.

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/m-ori-woman-living-in-aucklands-plush-ponsonby-targeted-neighbour-vicious-racist-letter-you-not-liked-and-welcomed-here

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    • Do you really think that you are that fascinating ? Don’t flatter yourself.

      Was the street called Munchausen ?

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      • Duker

         /  20th May 2020

        Isn’t that your special area of interest … Finding evidence of illness under every stone

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  20th May 2020

    This should remove any doubt that the average journalist is an entitled airhead:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121563072/coronavirus-small-businesses-cant-afford-to-take-advantage-of-nzs-goodwill

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    • Gezza

       /  20th May 2020

      Hang on I’ll have a look. Hopefully there’s a video. 😐

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      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        Well, there was a video, but it was completely unrelated to the story in the article.

        So, all good 👍🏼 situation normal there I’m sad to say.

        She got 30% overcharged for her usual standard haircut, with no pre-warning & no explanation. How would you react to getting overcharged by that amount with no prior warning by any service provider you re-engaged ?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  20th May 2020

          I’d probably consider the business was desperate to pay its rent, rates, insurance and electricity after having no income for two months. I doubt she’ll have much of a choice of hairdressers for her next visit, if she still has a job.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  20th May 2020

            (It will likely take more than fifty of those extra $20 customer charges just to pay the rates bill due today.
            And this is a business reporter? )

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            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              How do you know she hasn’t had a pay cut herself? Or whether her job’s on the line?

            • Duker

               /  20th May 2020

              $69 for the ‘standard cut which takes an hour” _ I dont know how they made any money on that one for an Auckland premises.
              The only mistake was to not say the standard charge had risen..every one is going to be longer hair etc.
              Maybe making it $75 on a longer term basis is the way to stay open, which is the angle this ‘business reporter’ has missed.
              Seems like the reporter could dump on the little people and did so because she can.

          • Gezza

             /  20th May 2020

            She had a standard cut done by someone who may not have cut her hair before. No probs getting another standard cut from another hairdresser would be my bet. She’ll probably ask for prices in advance next time.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              My bet is that salon will be closed, the hairdresser will be stacking supermarket shelves and the nearest alternative hairdresser will have raised her prices.

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              Jacinda & Grant will see them right! 👍🏼

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              They’ll get the dole and lose all the money they invested in the business – likely via a mortgage. May lose their house via personal guarantee.

  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  20th May 2020

    More layoffs at Fletchers and Carters. Restaurants and hotels closing. Uber and taxis hit hard. Warehouse worried. RB failing to reduce interest rates. Council giving six month rate deferments. Smiths City Market bust and sold. Media companies bleeding.

    The good times roll.

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    • Gezza

       /  20th May 2020

      I was just down in Tawa shopping village. Place is busy as; street car parks nearly full. Spoke to my Indian dairy owner buddy – the one who usually votes National.

      He reckons Simon’s out on his ear; said any politician criticising Jacinda at the moment is nuts; she’s dine a great job.

      I asked him how much is his business down, tho? – “Oh – it’s wayyy down, Gez, maybe as time goes on I mightn’t feel so happy”, he said. 2 customers came in so I left him serving them.

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      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        FiP! *dine = done

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  20th May 2020

        My impression is that the floating voter who decides the election has zero ability to see ahead and votes entirely on their current emotion. So the result will depend on the state of the economy in August.

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        • Gezza

           /  20th May 2020

          I think it will depend not so much on the economy as how the voter’s doing financially at the time & whether or not they’re confident things will quickly return to pre-CV-19 normal (or better) under a Jacinda-led administration. Grant’s got $2b still up his trouser leg.

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          • I think it’s $20 billion. Must be big trousers with big pockets.

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            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              You’re right. (Dunno why I keep saying $2b; that’s the 2nd time. I blame the government.)

              $20b is too big a wad of cash for Grant’s back pocket.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  20th May 2020

      AirNZ lays off 1300. South Auckland kid tells it as it is to the professional elite:
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12333389

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      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        Fascinating. Chloe Swarbrick tries to get a boost off that young woman’s social media post & gets a slap from her for that.

        She details a number of issues. Be interested in your solutions.

        “It’s ironic. turned on the TV to hear our domestic violence rates rose, then 5 mins later heard NZQA won’t lower credits cuz the time we have is enough. like any kid wants to write essays when they have to deal with being beat up.”

        Not having lockdowns has never stopped these kids being beaten up. How is their being beaten up Covid-19’s or the lockdown’s fault ? It just highlights an existing major problem in certain communities.

        “It’s ironic. they want us to earn credits but they never give us ours when it’s due.”

        How does NCEA lowering credits fix this problem?

        “It’s ironic. poorer brown kids living the life of the hard knocks, while white girls from Epsom are making racist tiktoks.”

        I don’t even know what tiktoks are; must be important but I doubt they’ll do much to change anyone’s life circumstances.

        “It’s ironic. & no matter how hard i keep my head in these books, i’m reminded there are things only the streets can teach you. if education is key, why do our locks keep changing? if knowledge is power, why does it come at a price we cant afford?”

        What’s the answer there, Al?

        “Every problem of society taught in class can be found in the hood. don’t need a degree for empathy. it’s ironic. how NZ wants to rebuild,”

        Well, to be fair, she hasn’t identified anything that she thinks can usefully be done to solve the problems she’s railing about. They existed before the lockdown. And Labour has tried to address them by chucking more money at people on benefits, raising minimum wage, changing the education system & promising more money for housing. National wasn’t fixing these problems either.

        So, not really sure what your point is Al, but why not try expressing your sympathies to the young lady directly & see if you get a slap as well?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  20th May 2020

          These communities lost jobs and were imprisoned in worse conditions by the ill-managed lockdown severely aggravating the pre-existing problems. That is the point the girl makes which you ignore.

          Why is it my job to fix the Left’s (and Saint Jacinda’s) screw up? It’s going to take years to get back to where we were. That’s reality.

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          • Gezza

             /  20th May 2020

            So far the evidence that beatings that she claims got more worser hasn’t shown up in official stats. The cops from memory said there was a short spike in DV then it settled back to the normal dreadful.

            She’s a lefty, Al. And she’s got it in for white girls like Chloe.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              It’s certainly true that those areas will have been hardest hit by reduced or lost incomes which will inevitably flow on to social problems whatever the cops say (which should always be treated with the scepticism due to the best resourced political PR operation in the country.)

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              Well Jacinda better watch her back. That ghetto-jive-talking little lefty seems to have it in for middle class white girls.

  8. duperez

     /  20th May 2020

    From the Good Work if you can get it Department:

    “The new award to Fisher (Fisher Sand and Gravel, the company that won the contract) carries an average cost of more than $30 million per mile of border barrier, more expensive than other contracts for Trump’s wall.”
    1 mile = 1609m = $US30+ million
    1 meter = $US18,645 = $NZ30,400

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-border-wall-fisher-contract/2020/05/19/d22943f2-99de-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html

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    • Corky

       /  20th May 2020

      Trumpy is still trying to deliver, eh, Duper. Not like that talking head, do nothing, Obama…who’s still yapping from the sideline. Hasn’t he been told he’s yesterdays news?

      If you think those wall costs are exorbitant..you should see what military contractors charge
      the government per washer..per bolt.

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      • duperez

         /  20th May 2020

        I like it, bringing Obama into it then telling us he’s yesterdays news. The ‘do nothing, Obama’ bit? Hell, that’s almost enough to make me take another swig of hydroxychloroquine and bay ‘Obamagate’ at the moon.

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        • Corky

           /  20th May 2020

          Fair enough. Let’s make it simple. Trumpy is still trying to deliver on a promise.

          There, you can back to building model planes while Trumpy builds reality.😕

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  20th May 2020

    I’m watching a rather sad sack owner of a Rotorua bar on the”‘epidemic response committee”, who complained that he didn’t want the lockdown to happen with the lack of tourists. Reg Hennessy of Hennessy Irish Bar seems to think PM Jacinda Ardern isn’t his PM, and had to be reminded she was his PM (hes an old white bald-headed male) and seemed to want the GOVT to pay for everything,for his bar,ie safe spacing, but he moaned tourists have gone????WTF, there’s a plague out there Reg. it was a tale of woe like no other except when i was made redundant at 63 years old with twilight skills, and no one out there to help me, my work life ended with no counselling or help,but then I’m not a whimp.i was approached with a job offer and took it, the govts paying his staff,and thanks for my union i got redundancy.

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    • Duker

       /  20th May 2020

      Second time the guy has turned up on Simon’s punch and Judy show….what’s the name for that sort of thing…Rent a Mob

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  10. Corky

     /  20th May 2020

    Talkback is having a free phone-in for tourist industry providers. There’s some real bargains to be had. This place has knocked roughly $50 of their one night accommodation rate. Other providers are prepared to haggle. Beautiful setting for this cottage.

    http://www.dragonflycottage.co.nz/

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  11. Alan Wilkinson

     /  20th May 2020

    Amazing discovery by NZ public health expert: nations failed to secure their borders early enough:
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/121569336/coronavirus-two-things-who-did-disastrously-wrong-early-in-pandemic

    “And the virus doesn’t have magical powers – once it’s gone it’s gone.

    While 5 million people fuss around in Level 2 waiting for it to drop out of the sky. So Matt King has a point:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12333489

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  12. lurcher1948

     /  20th May 2020

    Dear PG, top speed of 10km in your city centre Dunedin, i dont think my walker or scooter can go that slow but the idiot running your wee town is as stupid as Andy Foster the mayor of the capital city, WELLINGTON,he had a ZOOM conference,didn’t turn it off and fat shamed female counsellors,on line (females NEVER forget) our idiot mayor is a bought and paid for mayor by Sir Peter Jackson with a huge donation, so we can both sigh at our leaders

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    • It’s very difficult to gravel at 10 kph. My car speedo doesn’t even show where 10 kph is. If I use my GPS I can see my speed accurately, but you have to ride your brake to keep to approximately 10.

      Even the normal limit of 30 kph is quite slow.

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    • Gezza

       /  20th May 2020

      Not a fan of Andy, but you’re pushing fake gnus re the fat shaming incident, neighbour. Go google Stuff & read the article properly. Andy’s Zoom mic was on – it inadvertantly broadcast an irate 3rd party who was the fat-shamer.

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      • And Andy was NOT bought by Peter Jackson; urban myth.

        It occurred to me later that David Benson-Pope was being funny when he came in with no trousers on and wielding a pink feather duster,,,,

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      • lurcher1948

         /  20th May 2020

        YER,what ever,fix the central library? or stuff up Oriental bay parking with a pop up cycle lane,what do you think our mayor will do..hint he loves cycles,and doesn’t take hard jobs on like bringing the main MODERN library up to earthquake standards,on your bike Andy( A WASTED VOTE)

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  13. Gezza

     /  20th May 2020


    NZ’s education system has got a lot to answer for up the Far North

    “Dozens of tourists are being turned away from Cape Reinga by local iwi, despite tourism and hospitality in the region trying to encourage visitors to the area.

    Northland MP Matt King made a video of a confrontation that took place with iwi as he tried to access the location.

    “It’s my customary rights and I’m prepared to knock you out if you pass that gate,” a person blocking access says in the video.

    Mr King talked to 1 NEWS about his experience.”
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/tourists-still-barred-cape-reinga-depsite-drop-alert-level-2

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  20th May 2020

      The stupid is strong in these people.

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th May 2020

        Reguly. As our PM said today. But it’s not about stupid. Watch the video. It’s about who’s in control or should be.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  20th May 2020

          I presume the police? You know I don’t watch videos.)

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          • Gezza

             /  20th May 2020

            No. Iwi & Tikanga, it seems. The area has to be properly cleansed after dead people’s spirits have departed. Doc & Carter will accommodate them. Seems easiest. Will be re-opened when the rahui is lifted on the date they’e specified, it seems. DoC can do some cleaning & track work meantime. You really need to keep up with the play by watching short videos. You miss too much just reading the journos’ written efforts.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  20th May 2020

              I read that in half the time it would take to get thru the advt. What dead people? There haven’t been any up here.

            • Gezza

               /  20th May 2020

              I didn’t get any ads. Must be your personality.

              Dead people? I dunno. You’d need to ask the dude who said it on the video. Unfortunately Helen apparently didn’t ask, but then she’s a nice-looking tv repeater/reporter, not a proper journo.

    • duperez

       /  20th May 2020

      Matt King up there for a publicity stunt you reckon?

      Reply
      • Corky

         /  21st May 2020

        But of course…although it seems the purpose of his grandstanding has been lost on you.

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        • duperez

           /  21st May 2020

          Tell me then. I must be too close to his neck of the woods to recognise his purpose.

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  14. Conspiratoor

     /  21st May 2020

    The extended lockdown experience has not all been in vain. With multiple benefits and few downsides corporates are now rushing to develop a remote working policy

    This image from a South Korean call centre shows how ruthless a virus can be when it’s pushed around a ventilation system to bodies in close proximity

    https://www.goodreturns.co.nz/article/976516861/will-corporates-embrace-remote-working.html

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